OTAs: Important? Breaking Down Week 1 by “C-C-C” | Defending The Kingdom 5/27

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Chiefs Reporter Matt McMullen – plus various special guests – break down the latest news and storylines in Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Thank you vantage on the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: in the game, they can play, Oh, Michaelson doing one

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Speaker 1: touchdown Kansas City, the Chiefs. All right, the think of it, baby,

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Speaker 1: And welcome once again to another edition of Defending the Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: which alters with your voice of the Chiefs, along with

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Speaker 1: senior team reporter Nat mccaulind aka Mattstad and the man

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Speaker 1: we call the shop, the spider Man, the barber shop,

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Speaker 1: the barber of the Ville, Seville or whatever, Sean Beller,

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Speaker 1: Sean Barber, the head of the Ambassadors as well. So

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Speaker 1: lot on the resumes here of these two young men

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Speaker 1: that join me here in defending the Kingdom. And before

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Speaker 1: we get into the importance of OTAs CCC, what does

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Speaker 1: all of that mean. Let’s do a defending the Kingdom tradition,

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Speaker 1: and that is travel around the world. So I picked

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Speaker 1: thirteen names in places again, of course, in the honor

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Speaker 1: of thirteen seconds. I kind of like this new tradition here.

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Speaker 1: So we’ll start all over the globe. We’ve got Carlos

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Speaker 1: in the Dominican Republic listening to DDK. We have a

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Speaker 1: listener in Manaus, Brazil, a listener in Israel, Jim in Fiji,

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Speaker 1: Ben in Lear, Belgium, and then Mike declared Stockholm, Sweden

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Speaker 1: as Chiefs Kingdom Scandinavia. So I love that people listening

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Speaker 1: all over the world, and of course lots of people

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Speaker 1: all over the country as well. Tanner declared Council Bluffs,

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. He goes to a dedicated Chiefs bar in Scottsdale,

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Speaker 1: North Montana. Jose declared Inglewood, California as Chiefs Kingdom Battleground,

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Speaker 1: and of course we’ve got two other teams out there,

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Speaker 1: including the Chargers. So I love that having Chiefs came

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Speaker 1: declared out there in Inglewood. We’ve got Chad in Sarah Sooda, Florida,

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Speaker 1: Henry in Mission, Kansas, which is a great example of

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Speaker 1: if you live in Kansas City, let us know we’re

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Speaker 1: still gonna light everyone else know that you’re listening here

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Speaker 1: in the Casey Metro. And lastly Don in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: He listens while driving his semi truck. We’ve had a

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Speaker 1: lot of Northern Montana. Yeah, there’s been a lot of

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Speaker 1: The NFL has a metric they call wall which is watch, attend,

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Speaker 1: and listen, and they look at they break it down demographically,

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Speaker 1: the most engaged female groups fans in the entire National

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Speaker 1: Football League. This is Sarah Block from Tecumsa, Michigan, not

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Speaker 1: of a Phillies Chiefs combo. But hey, all right, this

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Speaker 1: episode of Defending the Kingdom coincides with phase three of

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Speaker 1: OTA’s and let’s get into first water OTA’s and then

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Speaker 1: we’re breaking it down to CCC. Why are OTA’s important?

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Speaker 1: tell you where the CCC comes into play. But first

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Speaker 1: let’s just quickly go the definition of organized team activities.

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Speaker 1: There’s the acronym. There’s three different phases. The first phases

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Speaker 1: basically meeting strength and conditioning rehab for injured guys. Phase two,

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Speaker 1: defense on offense. Okay, you’ve got to stay kind of

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Speaker 1: to look a little more like training camp, although no pads,

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Speaker 1: organized team activities. You get asked every day, Matt, what

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Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. And we’ll hear from Sean

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Speaker 1: really basically the closest to real football we’ve been since

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Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to come in here in May,

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Speaker 1: and this stuff is voluntary. You don’t have to be here,

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Speaker 1: lot of teams, a lot of coaches don’t really value

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Speaker 1: this time. The coach read certainly does You’ve participated in

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Speaker 1: these as a player. You see it from a player’s perspective.

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Speaker 1: The Players Association in the Collective Bargaining Agreement basically laid

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Speaker 1: out the rules we just talked about. But your thoughts

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Speaker 1: look at the OTA is just something to keep your

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Speaker 1: far away from football. The team is dragging you back

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Speaker 1: So most veterans see it as being almost a nuisance,

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Speaker 1: whereas the young guys, the rookies, first, second, third year

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Speaker 1: see as an opportunity like a proving ground. How can

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Speaker 1: and there your thoughts interesting about how teams approach it,

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Speaker 1: A big part of that is great camps. But great

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Speaker 1: camps are set up by great mini camps that are mandatory.

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Speaker 1: But that’s set up by these OTAs. Okay, now, on

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Speaker 1: to us religiously know that we’ll try to tie in oh,

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Speaker 1: I don’t know, mathematics the base ten right, or we’ll

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Speaker 1: time we’re gonna tie in history because we’re gonna go CCC,

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Speaker 1: and I’m related to the Civilian Conservation Corps that was

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Speaker 1: five billion trees and many of the state parks that

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Speaker 1: you who live in the United States were put in

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Speaker 1: place by the CCC back in the nineteen thirties. All right,

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Speaker 1: that’s our history. Lesson. Now we go to the otaccc

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Speaker 1: and let’s start with our first C of the CCCS,

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Speaker 1: and that is conditioning. And I think there’s two definitions here. One,

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Speaker 1: and I have seen this, and Shop knows this that

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Speaker 1: it’s not just getting in shape, it is how you

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Speaker 1: practice why you practice what you do and how you

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Speaker 1: do it to get you ready to get into this

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Speaker 1: culture of winning that the Chiefs have. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: we always learn new things, like live on air from

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Speaker 1: Mitch when we’re doing this thought way, I remember Russian

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Speaker 1: history last year, and yeah, and we somehow get back

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. But you’re absolutely right. And the thing

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Speaker 1: the last several years. And yeah, it’s because they have

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Speaker 1: great players and great coaches. But the culture is at

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Speaker 1: the core of all of it. And you don’t just

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Speaker 1: of May when you go out there and you see

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Speaker 1: with excitement to get better, and younger players see that

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Speaker 1: and they emulate it. We talked earlier watching practice about

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey is thirty two years old. He’s

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Speaker 1: going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. You

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Speaker 1: can make the argument right now that he’s the greatest

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Speaker 1: tight end of all time. He’s definitely in the top

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Speaker 1: May in OTAs and has the energy of a twenty

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Speaker 1: And that kind of culture is infectious. And I think

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Speaker 1: when people when you’re a younger player and you see that,

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Speaker 1: we do things here. And when you have all these

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Speaker 1: different players embracing that mentality, no matter the success that

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Speaker 1: in AFC Championship game berths and Super Bowl titles. So

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Speaker 1: it’s a beautiful thing seeing that here in OTAs, and

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Speaker 1: that’s a huge part of why the Chiefs have been

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Speaker 1: so successful as guys like Travis Kelsey embracing days like

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Speaker 1: in the middle of May. I love that you brought

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Speaker 1: awesome time. But it has to permeate through the rest

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Speaker 1: entire team now shops. Let’s talk about conditioning here one

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Speaker 1: physical condition and then two and you played for coach

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Speaker 1: read getting yourself mentally and emotionally prepared to be a

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Speaker 1: part of winning here. Man, mindset is a big part

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Speaker 1: talk about consumption in this phase of offseason, it’s all

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Speaker 1: the basics. It’s all the things, the rules, the shifts

414
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Speaker 1: and motions. How do we adjust, when do we lock,

415
00:20:31,920 –> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: when do we bump as far as man to man coverage,

416
00:20:34,320 –> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: when do we go from Rolex to Vegas, Vegas to Rolex.

417
00:20:38,920 –> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: Some of those defensive terms are are they transcend overall

418
00:20:44,160 –> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: all the defenses? And so when you have certain concepts

419
00:20:47,280 –> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 1: that that really have a priority and they go no

420
00:20:50,359 –> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: matter what we’re in, no matter what package we’re in,

421
00:20:52,840 –> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: these concepts travel with all of our defensive fronts and personnels.

422
00:20:57,520 –> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: Those are the things we go over in this phase

423
00:21:00,400 –> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: of this. You know, primary, getting guys comfortable with with

424
00:21:03,880 –> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: with is basically some of the bread and butter stuff

425
00:21:06,480 –> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: about the defense. But you got to realize the things

426
00:21:09,520 –> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: are gonna be put in. They can’t wait for anybody

427
00:21:12,280 –> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: that you got a through z to put in. We

428
00:21:14,800 –> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: gotta put it all in in a short time and

429
00:21:17,440 –> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: when you have questions, when you have questions, you gotta

430
00:21:20,560 –> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: get those things answered right now. Young guys, the one

431
00:21:24,160 –> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: thing they struggle with getting on the field is not

432
00:21:26,520 –> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: knowing when to adjust and not knowing who to pick

433
00:21:29,320 –> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: up when it comes to the blitz pressure packages, and

434
00:21:32,119 –> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: then not understanding how there drop zone coverage sometimes differ

435
00:21:37,119 –> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: changes depending on offensive shifts and motions. And if you

436
00:21:40,320 –> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: don’t know how all of that stuff this works together,

437
00:21:43,359 –> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: then you’re gonna you’re gonna you’re gonna find yourself kind

438
00:21:45,640 –> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: of swamped, maybe, like you said on that third string

439
00:21:48,560 –> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: depth chart, for a long time. Even though you might

440
00:21:50,359 –> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: be one of the most talented guys in the room,

441
00:21:52,560 –> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: your talent is not gonna be able to showcase itself

442
00:21:54,640 –> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: because you just don’t know where to go. You don’t

443
00:21:56,800 –> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: know where you belong. And so this is the time

444
00:21:59,040 –> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: for the guys to you ain’t got much else to

445
00:22:01,240 –> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: do but football. Dive into that playbook, learn your position,

446
00:22:05,760 –> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: learn the two positions next to you, because that kind

447
00:22:08,320 –> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: of helps you figure out where you belong. And through

448
00:22:10,840 –> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: that whole process, like you said, consumption, consume the playbook.

449
00:22:14,560 –> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: Let that become your gospel. I mean, let that leads

450
00:22:17,440 –> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: you only like like like only the Bible cane, right,

451
00:22:21,000 –> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: it leads you through the faith in that that that

452
00:22:23,320 –> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: that playbook that has to become your GPS. That’s the

453
00:22:26,480 –> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: way you got to lead yourself through life and all

454
00:22:29,280 –> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: the answers in that playbook. But you got to know

455
00:22:31,200 –> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: how to find out how to apply it, how to

456
00:22:33,240 –> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: use it to make sure that you’re aligned and you

457
00:22:35,800 –> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: know your assignment, and then it’s all about execution. The

458
00:22:38,720 –> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: defensive side of this discussion, to me is fascinating because

459
00:22:42,880 –> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 1: you have this blend. You’ve got George Carlottas, You’ve got

460
00:22:46,320 –> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, you got Brian Cook, you got guys that

461
00:22:49,040 –> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: were drafted defenders. Leo Chanelle go down the line, Josh Williams,

462
00:22:52,960 –> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: don’t leave anybody out, Jayleen Watson, I mean the draftees.

463
00:22:55,920 –> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: And then you’ve got like a Nick Bolton or Willie

464
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Speaker 1: j Jr. Who if you thrust into different and more

465
00:23:03,000 –> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: responsibility in those roles. And so me, we’re taping this

466
00:23:07,200 –> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: on May the twenty fifth, and Matt May the twenty

467
00:23:10,560 –> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: fifth to me for that group and contended those dynamics

468
00:23:14,040 –> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: is as important as it is on August the twenty fifth. Yeah,

469
00:23:16,960 –> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: it’s funny too because we talk a lot about the

470
00:23:18,600 –> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: offense and the receivers all finding cohesion with Patrick Mahomes

471
00:23:21,920 –> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: and how’s the offense going to look at this season,

472
00:23:23,400 –> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: But the defense is kind of the same thing. It’s

473
00:23:25,800 –> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: exciting because we have a lot of really good young

474
00:23:28,280 –> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: players in this defense that I think are really going

475
00:23:30,080 –> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: to thrive here, but they are kind of figuring out

476
00:23:32,240 –> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: their roles right now. The Chiefs in a lot of

477
00:23:35,040 –> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: ways have kind of moved on from a lot of

478
00:23:37,720 –> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: defensive players that we’re here for a long time that

479
00:23:39,920 –> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: really established themselves and now it’s guys like Justin Reid

480
00:23:43,040 –> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: who are kind of running the show. Nick Bolton’s gonna

481
00:23:45,119 –> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: be the mic this year, be the green dot, be

482
00:23:47,080 –> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: one of the leaders of this defense, and he’s just

483
00:23:48,680 –> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: a second year player. It’s exciting because he’s ready for

484
00:23:51,320 –> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: that opportunity. It’s very clear and watching this defense in practice,

485
00:23:55,040 –> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 1: like they’re flying around and making plays. There’s a lot

486
00:23:57,000 –> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: of length at the cornerback position. I’m super excited about.

487
00:24:00,119 –> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: Wait to see how when we do our three safety

488
00:24:02,480 –> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: looks how the three safeties kind of worked together, because

489
00:24:04,840 –> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: I think all those skill sets really are cohesive. It’s

490
00:24:08,200 –> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, but this is the time where

491
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Speaker 1: you figure out as a unit how we’re gonna defend.

492
00:24:13,080 –> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: And Justin Reid spoke with the media today kind of

493
00:24:15,760 –> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: about that, and he said a few interesting things. He

494
00:24:17,720 –> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: said that this is going to be the most fun

495
00:24:19,600 –> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: defense he’s ever played in because Spags is going to

496
00:24:22,359 –> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: use him in so many different versatile roles. But also

497
00:24:26,359 –> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: he is relishing the opportunity to face Patrick Mahomes and

498
00:24:29,280 –> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: the first team offense every single day. And remember they

499
00:24:31,840 –> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: couldn’t do that in an official capacity until literally this week,

500
00:24:35,840 –> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: because you couldn’t have eleven on eleven. But he was like,

501
00:24:38,560 –> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: we’re facing these guys every day, and iron sharpens iron,

502
00:24:40,920 –> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: and you’re facing Patrick Mahomes every single day, all of

503
00:24:43,280 –> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: a sudden, when you’re facing maybe a lesser quarterback in

504
00:24:45,400 –> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: a game, it’s just a half second slower. So that’s

505
00:24:48,440 –> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: the beautiful than with that, some of the most fun

506
00:24:50,119 –> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: I had in my career was facing Tony Gonzalez on

507
00:24:52,359 –> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: a daily basis. Yeah, the opportunity to face somebody who

508
00:24:55,320 –> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: you knew was headed for Kenton, and you got to

509
00:24:57,800 –> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: sharpen your TOOLBLT when the guy like that. It made

510
00:25:01,000 –> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: Sundays so easy. There’s there’s no tight end you can

511
00:25:03,119 –> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: put a move on me to greater than Tony tried

512
00:25:05,000 –> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: to put on me during practice. So it made me

513
00:25:07,160 –> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: so confident facing all these other opponents, all these other

514
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Speaker 1: tight ends, Like none of y’all are Tony. So if

515
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Speaker 1: I can shut him down or even come closer than

516
00:25:14,520 –> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: them down during the practice, then I know I’m gonna

517
00:25:17,720 –> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: be lights out shut down on game day. New coaches

518
00:25:22,119 –> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: get a chance to have an extra week in the

519
00:25:24,680 –> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: phase one of OTAs. It has to happen really early,

520
00:25:27,240 –> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: not now early on. But it’s almost like this defense

521
00:25:30,040 –> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: feels like there’s so much new to it and so

522
00:25:32,600 –> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: much exciting new to it that it’s almost like, Gsha,

523
00:25:36,320 –> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: wish Spaggs had another week. But just know this OTAs

524
00:25:40,400 –> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: are really important to this defense, and you get excited

525
00:25:42,720 –> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: about it. But the second part is consumption, the third

526
00:25:45,800 –> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: part in the third seed, the first sea of course conditioning,

527
00:25:48,960 –> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: not just physical conditioning, but mental emotional learn the culture,

528
00:25:52,280 –> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: learn how we win, how we practice. Two Consumption, the

529
00:25:55,760 –> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: huge volume of being achieved three is chemistry and chemistry

530
00:26:00,800 –> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: and the development of it is huge for this team

531
00:26:04,240 –> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: during OTAs yes in late May. In June. In chemistry,

532
00:26:09,040 –> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: we just heard and we heard Patrick Mahomes during the

533
00:26:11,600 –> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: first media session of OTA’s talk about it so much.

534
00:26:15,760 –> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: That was just all throughout his discussion and the questions

535
00:26:19,240 –> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: asked to him, even to the point where he went

536
00:26:21,080 –> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: out of his way to have his own training session

537
00:26:24,200 –> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: on his own, real voluntary in Texas. But Patrick talked

538
00:26:28,520 –> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: about the importance of developing chemistry. Now, yeah, well, I mean,

539
00:26:33,280 –> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: first off, I think we got some chemistry in just

540
00:26:35,520 –> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: getting with those guys for almost a month and working

541
00:26:39,440 –> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: out with them, thrown with them, we’d go to lunch,

542
00:26:41,720 –> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: go to dinner and stuff like that. You kind of

543
00:26:43,480 –> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: build that chemistry. And I think a big part, especially

544
00:26:46,160 –> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: our offense, is having that chemistry on the field, being

545
00:26:48,200 –> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: able to know what the guys doing without having to

546
00:26:50,000 –> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: talk about it. And I think it’s translated. I mean

547
00:26:52,960 –> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: so far in the products that we had, we feel

548
00:26:54,880 –> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: like we’re on the same page and kind of having

549
00:26:57,000 –> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: that chemistry and we’re gonna keep building on that. So

550
00:26:58,960 –> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: pretty clear there, Patrick Mahomes, what he’s learned about chemistry

551
00:27:02,119 –> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: and development a getting now during OTAs start with the

552
00:27:04,520 –> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: shots and chemistry here on both sides of the ball,

553
00:27:07,320 –> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: and in special teams kis I don’t want to leave

554
00:27:08,960 –> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: him out There goes back to the cultural part, because

555
00:27:10,880 –> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to be on special teams complicated

556
00:27:13,359 –> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: in Dave tube system chemistry. How much you start developing

557
00:27:17,080 –> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: that right now? In ot chemistry, the key to it

558
00:27:19,840 –> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: is communication. It always begins and ends with communication. If

559
00:27:23,440 –> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: you can be an effective communicator on the field, you

560
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: have a position on that field. If you can’t, no

561
00:27:28,400 –> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: matter how much skill, no matter how much talent, all

562
00:27:31,359 –> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: of those things followed the wayside, if you can’t either

563
00:27:33,560 –> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: accept communication or deliver it. And so from a safety standpoint,

564
00:27:37,320 –> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: when you see the offensive set comes out and you

565
00:27:39,240 –> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: got to communicate to the linebackers, let them know what

566
00:27:41,640 –> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: coverage you want to be in, how you want them

567
00:27:43,640 –> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: to see the offense. You got to be able to

568
00:27:45,520 –> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: communicate it verbally or by hand signals. And then as linebackers,

569
00:27:49,080 –> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: when you look at that defensive front, there’s a certain

570
00:27:51,320 –> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: way you want them to fit against the offense, to

571
00:27:53,440 –> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: protect against run gaps. You got to be able to

572
00:27:56,080 –> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: tell them act stunt or bash or crash stunts. The A,

573
00:28:00,440 –> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: B and C gaps away so that you can feel

574
00:28:03,000 –> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: free to flow fast and go make plays. If those

575
00:28:06,040 –> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: things don’t get communicated on the defensive side, you don’t

576
00:28:08,640 –> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: have a chance. It’s stopping these high powered offenses today.

577
00:28:12,040 –> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: And then when you talk about even on the offenside

578
00:28:14,040 –> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: of the ball, everybody is trying to see the defense

579
00:28:16,720 –> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: through Pat mahomes ayes, if I’m a wide receiver, the

580
00:28:19,840 –> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: only thing that matters to me is that I see

581
00:28:22,160 –> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: the defense the same way that the quarterback sees it

582
00:28:24,480 –> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: because he’s going to throw the ball to an area

583
00:28:26,640 –> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: to take advantage of what they’re doing defensively. And I

584
00:28:28,760 –> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: want to make sure I’m at the right place at

585
00:28:30,520 –> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: the right time and then make that great catch to

586
00:28:32,760 –> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: be able to matriculate move that ball down the field.

587
00:28:35,520 –> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: And then on special teams, hey man, it’s you’re a

588
00:28:38,120 –> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: tip of the spiel for a reason. You can make

589
00:28:40,000 –> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: some of the biggest plays on special teams. The momentum

590
00:28:43,160 –> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: change that happens on the special teams turnover or block punt.

591
00:28:46,840 –> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Lack of communication leads to block punts and kicks more

592
00:28:49,600 –> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: than anything. It’s never a talent thing. It’s the lack

593
00:28:52,840 –> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: of a communication. You got to be able to count

594
00:28:54,880 –> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: one two three four one side one two three four.

595
00:28:57,360 –> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: You got to be know if you’re doing a zone

596
00:28:59,320 –> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: blocking scheme versus man. If those things aren’t communicated the

597
00:29:02,960 –> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: right way, everybody who’s pressuring block kicks, block punts, they

598
00:29:08,760 –> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: do stabs, they do twists, they do overload aside because

599
00:29:12,440 –> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: they want to mess up your count. So you have

600
00:29:14,480 –> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: to be so well at communication to make sure that

601
00:29:17,320 –> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: you do one thing right. That communication is the key

602
00:29:20,080 –> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: to being able to compete on Sundays. And with Dave Tobe,

603
00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: he’s got so many countermeasures built in there as special teams,

604
00:29:26,080 –> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: whether it’s a return or covering, it’s a major What

605
00:29:30,680 –> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: you think is not what’s really going to happen. What

606
00:29:33,400 –> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: you see is not going to happen because he’s got

607
00:29:34,960 –> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: a counter measure ready to go, and you’ve got to

608
00:29:37,080 –> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: be a player that can acclimate to that system. That’s

609
00:29:39,480 –> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: part of the chemistry. What I’ve found fascinating in Patrick’s comments,

610
00:29:44,400 –> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: and I think as much of him getting the guys

611
00:29:46,720 –> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: together so to speak, in Texas prior to the start

612
00:29:50,160 –> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: of this third phase of OTAs or Phase two of

613
00:29:52,360 –> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: OTAs was the off the field stuff. I think about it.

614
00:29:56,520 –> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Just for the three of us, we’ve done things outside

615
00:29:59,560 –> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: off im or outside of the building that to me

616
00:30:02,800 –> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: is as important or valuable to us being able to

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00:30:06,360 –> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: connect as it is inside the building. For players, it’s

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00:30:09,960 –> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: even more so. But I found it fascinating that Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is emphasizing the off field chemistry stuff almost as

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Speaker 1: much as the on field chemistry stuff. I like that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned our podcast as an example because I was

622
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Speaker 1: thinking of the same thing. I mean, if we all

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Speaker 1: came in here, we’re hired the same day and they’re like,

624
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Speaker 1: do a chief podcast, we do our best, But I

625
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Speaker 1: mean we wouldn’t know each other. We wouldn’t know how

626
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Speaker 1: each other acts, or what you think about or what

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Speaker 1: you are interested in. You know, it would be hard.

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Speaker 1: We don’t do a ton of like preparation into the

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Speaker 1: outline of the show. I mean, we just know each

630
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Speaker 1: other and we just talk about the chiefs in football

631
00:30:44,680 –> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: and it just kind of flows. I mean, football in

632
00:30:46,200 –> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot of ways is the same way. I totally

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Speaker 1: agree about what Patrick said, because, well, it’s important that

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Speaker 1: they’re going out there and throwing and you know kind

635
00:30:53,280 –> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: of figuring out physically how they all interact. But he

636
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Speaker 1: keeps emphasizing that they would hang out, they go to lunch,

637
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Speaker 1: they go to dinner, You kind of figure about how

638
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Speaker 1: each other thinks, and that translates to the field. Another

639
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Speaker 1: interesting thing that he mentioned was that the coaches are

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Speaker 1: going to teach the receivers routes one way and they

641
00:31:08,600 –> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: need to run it the way. The coaches won. But

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00:31:10,960 –> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Patrick was teaching it how he sees it, and now

643
00:31:13,800 –> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: they can learn it from the coaches here in OTAs

644
00:31:16,000 –> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: and they can go into a game knowing it both ways.

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Speaker 1: Here’s how the route is designed, Here’s how the concept

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Speaker 1: is supposed to work. But here’s also how Patrick is

647
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Speaker 1: seeing it. Here’s how his brain is processing it. I

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00:31:26,120 –> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: just found that really interesting, and that’s kind of an

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Speaker 1: advantage I think. And Coach Read mentioned that even today

650
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Speaker 1: the second day of OTIA, is that while it was

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Speaker 1: just the base stuff that they went over in Texas,

652
00:31:36,800 –> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: like that was still a huge help. And it’s evident

653
00:31:38,760 –> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: that they’re not just brand new. When you add a

654
00:31:41,080 –> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: guy like Juju or Marquez about this scantling like, they’re

655
00:31:43,600 –> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: not brand new to it. They’ve been hanging out with

656
00:31:45,680 –> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Patrick a bit. They kind of know what he’s thinking

657
00:31:47,960 –> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: when he’s out there already, and that’s just a huge

658
00:31:49,920 –> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: advantage I think. So props to Patrick for doing the

659
00:31:52,800 –> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: stuff in Texas. I think a lot of teams wouldn’t

660
00:31:54,720 –> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: have done that in a total voluntary things to get

661
00:31:57,600 –> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: together in your own time and get better at football.

662
00:31:59,440 –> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: I think it’s pretty cool and I think that will

663
00:32:00,960 –> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: pay dividends you’re moving forward. Don’t forget too that Patrick

664
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Speaker 1: last year. Think about what he was dealing with coming

665
00:32:05,600 –> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: off that foot surgery. He wasn’t at one hundred percent

666
00:32:07,840 –> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: like he couldn’t have done that last year, and he

667
00:32:09,840 –> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: mentioned in his press conference just how much better he

668
00:32:11,960 –> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: feels this time around, that he’s fully healthy, he can

669
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Speaker 1: go out there and just play football with his guys,

670
00:32:16,240 –> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: and that’s going to help him this year defensively. I

671
00:32:19,080 –> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: think it’s also the case because Justin Reid mentioned and

672
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Speaker 1: his presser about how important that off the field chemistry

673
00:32:24,880 –> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: is and how that really impacts things. I mean, I’m

674
00:32:26,680 –> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: sure you can speak to this because Justin said that

675
00:32:28,880 –> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: his first two years in Houston, it was really good,

676
00:32:31,040 –> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: like they would hang out like once a week or

677
00:32:32,920 –> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: twice a week as a defense outside the building, so

678
00:32:35,560 –> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: when it came to game day, they knew what each

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00:32:37,800 –> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: other was thinking. They know, you know, let’s say you

680
00:32:40,840 –> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: mess up and I come at you and kind of

681
00:32:42,480 –> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: explain to you, hey, you messed up. You’re not going

682
00:32:44,280 –> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: to take it personally because you know I’m coming from

683
00:32:46,440 –> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: a good place. That’s important, he said. The last two

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00:32:48,960 –> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: years in Houston, it really just wasn’t the case as

685
00:32:50,680 –> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: much for their defense. And let’s say, same scenario. If

686
00:32:53,960 –> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I come at you and say, hey, you’d screwed this up,

687
00:32:56,080 –> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: you’re gonna take it personally and hate me. You know.

688
00:32:58,160 –> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: He didn’t say that, but he kind of alluded to it.

689
00:32:59,840 –> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: So they’re already doing that as a defense here and

690
00:33:03,640 –> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Justin we talked about it in our last DDK is

691
00:33:06,400 –> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: and Race such a leadership role on this team already,

692
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Speaker 1: So to have kind of guys on both sides really

693
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Speaker 1: emphasizing the importance of that off the field stuff, I

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Speaker 1: think we’ll pay dividends. Patrick talked about going to basketball games,

695
00:33:17,280 –> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: taking them NBA games, sport or exporting baseball games and said,

696
00:33:22,000 –> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: I’m gonna take these guys around Kansas City so they’ll

697
00:33:24,240 –> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: see why I love it so much. I mean, that’s

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00:33:26,760 –> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: just just think about that. So it’s it’s the off

699
00:33:29,640 –> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: the field chemistry building shop. And you had a career

700
00:33:34,640 –> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: as a defensive player. But to me, the epitome of

701
00:33:38,640 –> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: this is the offensive line. This is a close group.

702
00:33:42,600 –> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Like you look at Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith. You

703
00:33:45,920 –> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: mentioned him earlier in the podcast. But these guys are

704
00:33:48,000 –> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: in their second year, they’re out like ten year veterans.

705
00:33:51,200 –> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: But how they get along with each other, how they

706
00:33:53,160 –> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: know each other’s families. Tuney talked about stay in contact

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00:33:58,080 –> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: with Lando Brown junior. But the best offensive lines that

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00:34:01,680 –> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I’ve seen in my brief twenty nine years in this

709
00:34:03,720 –> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: league are those that get that they’re off the field.

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00:34:06,840 –> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: They have their own little subcultural fraternity. So if you

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00:34:09,880 –> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: think about offensive line, that’s the only position that gets

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00:34:12,520 –> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: ranked or graded as an entire group. If the offensive

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00:34:16,280 –> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: line gives up three four sacks, again it could be

714
00:34:20,239 –> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: one guy giving up all those sacks, that offensive line

715
00:34:22,719 –> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: is gonna be rated as porous. So defensively, they’re gonna

716
00:34:25,880 –> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: come at them, they’re gonna chew these different stunts. They’re

717
00:34:27,880 –> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: not going to worry about which position gave it up.

718
00:34:30,200 –> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: You get ranked, you get graded, you get evaluated as

719
00:34:33,000 –> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: an entire group. So that group has to be so

720
00:34:36,040 –> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: closely knitted. They got to be able to every day

721
00:34:38,840 –> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: on over and over again. I don’t care if you’re exhausted.

722
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Speaker 1: I don’t care if you’re tired. I don’t care if

723
00:34:43,239 –> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: you sprain an ankle when you got on one ankle.

724
00:34:45,400 –> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: We still have to perform through individual issues and problems

725
00:34:51,000 –> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: at a very high level because we are in charge

726
00:34:53,320 –> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: of protecting the most highest valued asset on the field,

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00:34:56,560 –> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: which is the quarterback. So when you are entrusted that

728
00:34:59,560 –> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: then and there is no excuses, There is no take

729
00:35:02,480 –> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: a playoff or tapping out because you’re a little bit

730
00:35:05,800 –> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: tired or you’re exhausted. You gotta go out there and

731
00:35:08,000 –> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: perform at a high level throughout the entire game. And

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00:35:10,960 –> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: so beyond just the offensive line, we look at some

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00:35:14,200 –> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: different positions. But when you say, like you know, from

734
00:35:16,560 –> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback position, everybody got to be on the same page.

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00:35:20,080 –> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Imagine this scenario. Imagine the scenario where the coach puts

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00:35:22,960 –> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: in a route where you’re running a nine route down

737
00:35:26,320 –> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: the sideline, but in the coach’s diagram. In the discussion,

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00:35:30,000 –> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: they tell you, Matt, if the If the cornerback bails

739
00:35:33,480 –> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: before the snap, then you’re supposed to run a stop route.

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00:35:37,000 –> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: But in the off season, I’ve talked to Pat, and

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00:35:39,000 –> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Pat says, listen, on this certain route, I begin to

742
00:35:42,200 –> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: look to the right side. That’s my first second and

743
00:35:45,080 –> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: read and I’m coming back to you late. So if

744
00:35:47,560 –> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: you’re corner bails at the snap, I won’t even see it.

745
00:35:50,320 –> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: So I need you to stick with the route unless

746
00:35:52,600 –> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: you know I’m looking your route right and if I’m

747
00:35:55,640 –> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna change my you know my progression and come to

748
00:35:58,880 –> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: your side first, I might give you a little hand

749
00:36:00,440 –> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: signal to let you know, hey, I’m coming your way.

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00:36:02,280 –> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: So so now you know I see the bill and

751
00:36:04,680 –> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: so that that’s one hundred percent how a minor detail

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00:36:08,400 –> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: on how a route is run and adjusted. Who can

753
00:36:10,840 –> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: create a interception if they’re not on that same page,

754
00:36:14,480 –> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: and that’s something they can’t. You don’t have enough time

755
00:36:17,440 –> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: to go over all those little details. But Pat is

756
00:36:19,880 –> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: making time in the off season to talk about these

757
00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: fans like how I’m looking at things and how I

758
00:36:25,360 –> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: see it. And you gotta be a you know you

759
00:36:27,520 –> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: got you gotta be a vetteran yourself to know why

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00:36:29,360 –> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: that’s important. Yeah. Well a perfect example of that was

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00:36:31,840 –> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Sammy Watkins, what was it like,

762
00:36:34,440 –> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: thirty eight yard reception down the sideline that exactly on

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00:36:37,719 –> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. We talked to Patrick in the summer after

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00:36:41,000 –> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that year and he explained that that

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00:36:42,960 –> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: was not the correct route. That the whole thing there

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00:36:45,560 –> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: was because Sammy recognized it, Patrick Newsandy recognized it, and

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00:36:49,840 –> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: they just kind of the backyard football that wasn’t the

768
00:36:52,040 –> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: design play. But because of exactly what you’re saying, it

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00:36:54,800 –> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: led to one of the biggest moments in the Super

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00:36:56,360 –> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: Bowl and led to it Chiefs victory and the Super Bowl.

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00:36:58,800 –> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I couldn’t agree more awesome, awesome points. But

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00:37:02,360 –> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: hopefully now throughout the Chiefs Kingdom and you can spread

773
00:37:05,120 –> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: the word. Yes, OTA’s organized team activities are very important

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00:37:11,280 –> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs Kingdom. And it’s CCC with the conditioning,

775
00:37:15,640 –> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: not just physical conditioning, but how we win, how we practice,

776
00:37:18,840 –> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: how we work consumption in chemistry. And we’ll close this way.

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00:37:23,960 –> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: Go look at a tree if it’s about seventy years old,

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00:37:26,480 –> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: or if you live in the United States, go visit

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00:37:28,280 –> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: a state park. It probably was put there by the

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00:37:31,640 –> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Civilian Conservation Corps touch down and the celebration begins in

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00:37:39,520 –> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: their hand.

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