Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and 10 year NFL veteran and former Chiefs linebacker Shawn Barber team up for Defending The Kingdom. A unique approach to the inside look at everyone’s favorite topic – The Chiefs Kingdom.
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Speaker 1: the day. All right, when you get opportunity to this game,
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Speaker 1: a baby. Well, Hello Chiefs, Kingdom, Hello one and all.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitch altis
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Speaker 1: with you Voice of the Chiefs, along with the man
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Speaker 1: now so well known as the Shop. He is the
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Speaker 1: official barber of the Kingdom. He is Barber Shop Spider
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Speaker 1: University of Richmond. University of Richmond the big fundraising campaign
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Speaker 1: this week. Try to get the Spiders back to that
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Speaker 1: national level and FCS, my friend, hope you and your
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Speaker 1: family are doing well. Man, we are, we are man
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Speaker 1: Man oh Almamad at University of Richmond with coach Hughesman Man,
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Speaker 1: I wish those those guys all the luck with these
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Speaker 1: tough times trying to find different places the guys to
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Speaker 1: work out. Man, it’s amazement think with a college athlete
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Speaker 1: is trying to find so many different places to try
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Speaker 1: to get his body in position for this fall upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: But I think coach Housman has done a great job.
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Speaker 1: He’s had alumni like myself calling on zoom and Skype,
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Speaker 1: really speaking leadership and speaking accountability to the current players.
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Speaker 1: So I think if it has a team ready to
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Speaker 1: take over in the CIA, it might be those Richmond status.
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Speaker 1: It’s just don’t like James Maddison here, he said, And
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Speaker 1: we love football at all levels. You and I are
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Speaker 1: big fans of high school football. So Division two football,
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Speaker 1: the best conference in the country’s right here in the
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Speaker 1: m double A and really an FCS football where you
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Speaker 1: are plays the Missouri Valley Football Conference is something else
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Speaker 1: and it’s right around here in the Chiefs Kingdom. That
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Speaker 1: being said, at football at any level, you’ve got to
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Speaker 1: be successful on defense to even have a chance. And
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Speaker 1: we’re going to jump into this edition of defaming the
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Speaker 1: Kingdom of Spags and we’re just gonna leave it there.
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Speaker 1: And that’s what we’re gonna call this Spags because Spags
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Speaker 1: has become sean a big of a magnetic piece here
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Speaker 1: in this twenty twenty offseason. People so excited about winning
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, they looked to try to get
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Speaker 1: back to Super Bowl fifty five and won it, and
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Speaker 1: they’re going, oh yeah, the offense it’s the best in
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Speaker 1: the league. And Pat Mahomes and Kelsey and all the
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Speaker 1: others at Tyreek Hill. But the defense you knew Steve
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Speaker 1: Spagnolo before we all did. I watched him from Afar,
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Speaker 1: admired him. Saw what he did in OH seven with
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants in winning the World Championship, in
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Speaker 1: that big upset over New England. But you knew him
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Speaker 1: before he got here. What did we see last year
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Speaker 1: from Steve Spagnolo that the Chiefs Kingdom can kind of
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Speaker 1: hang on to and know you’re going to get this
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Speaker 1: in more than twenty twenty man. One of the characteristics
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Speaker 1: He’s been so consistent, and we talk about that consistently.
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Speaker 1: As a coach, he expects out of the players. He
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Speaker 1: doesn’t expect you to be perfect, but he expects you
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Speaker 1: to be consistent in your effort, your taking, your pursuit
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Speaker 1: for the ball, and then collectively as a unit, your
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Speaker 1: pursuit for perfection. And you always should be pursuing a
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Speaker 1: perfect You should be in pursuit of playing your best ball,
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Speaker 1: no matter who the opponent is, no matter what their
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Speaker 1: stats are, who you’re lining up against. You should have
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Speaker 1: enough confidence in yourself and your teammates, the way you prepare,
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Speaker 1: the way you understand the defensive philosophy, that there’s a
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Speaker 1: way of going about playing defensive football, the way you
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Speaker 1: hunt together as a unit, that you can be able
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Speaker 1: to stop any offense. And I know we talk about
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Speaker 1: how vaulted and how great the Pat Mahomes and the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs offense is. I’ve been a part of Spags defense once. Defensively,
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Speaker 1: we get rolling and we work on all Susanders. We’re
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Speaker 1: just as powerful and potent on defense as the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: offense is on offense. Yeah, you just describe really the
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Speaker 1: last eight games of the regular season and then the
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Speaker 1: playoffs with Spags defense. I don’t think people realize in
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Speaker 1: the last eight games the regular season, now, the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: only allowed one hundred and twenty seven offensive points. That
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Speaker 1: was second in the National Football League only to the Ravens,
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Speaker 1: who we talk about the Ravens defense all the time,
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Speaker 1: and they gave up one twenty six. That’s taken away
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Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns and the like. But just that fact a
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Speaker 1: loan tells you how much if this team improved and
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Speaker 1: to watch Spags and his staff. We’re going to talk
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Speaker 1: see how they morphed and how they grew from week
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Speaker 1: one to the last half of the season tells me
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Speaker 1: can we expect I kind of expect that same kind
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Speaker 1: of growth going into the twenty twenty season. Now, I hope, so,
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Speaker 1: I hope there’s a broad understanding of what defensive philosophy is.
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Speaker 1: And not to take any shots of what was going
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Speaker 1: on before co Spags get here, but I think the
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Speaker 1: philosophy with Bob Sudden was get after the quarterback and
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Speaker 1: create turnovers. Do whatever you have to do the put
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Speaker 1: long as you ended the game with six sacks and
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Speaker 1: a bunch of pressures, that was the defensive mantra. Coach
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Speaker 1: Bag’s defense is more about, like you’re saying, keeping the
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Speaker 1: opponent out of the end zone, forcing field goals, playing
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Speaker 1: a very sound goal line, the goal line, every snap counts,
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Speaker 1: every tackle counts, don’t give up hitting yardage, learn what
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Speaker 1: it means to strip a ball out, force a takeaway,
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Speaker 1: and when those opportunities come realize that those are not
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Speaker 1: taking lightly. It’s a difference between batting the ball down
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Speaker 1: able to intercept the ball and create a turnover. Save
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Speaker 1: all that hidden yardage that would be given to an
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Speaker 1: offense when they punted away, and then your offense has
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Speaker 1: thirty yard line. That’s a big aspect creating that turnover,
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Speaker 1: understanding momentum them as far as playing the momentum with
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Speaker 1: a pinneoulum swing up the ball game in game situation.
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Speaker 1: He expects his players to play each situation of the
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Speaker 1: game as it’s as it arises. Every third down isn’t equal,
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Speaker 1: every first down isn’t equal, and um, he expects guys
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Speaker 1: was able to add the honey Badger, that’s exactly what
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Speaker 1: guy who can calm the storm at any time and
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Speaker 1: gets guys refocused on the next down. Let’s make a play,
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Speaker 1: Let’s get off the field, let’s create a touchdown ourselves,
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Speaker 1: do whatever needs to be done. For this team to
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Speaker 1: proceed and win the ball game. I’m want to ask
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Speaker 1: you too before we hear from Spags about what we
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Speaker 1: saw in the playoffs. This day and age of and
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Speaker 1: what I’m hearing you say this day in age in
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Speaker 1: yards of offense. That’s making the key plays at the
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Speaker 1: key times, however, were at crunch time in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Sean three playoff games, this Kansas City Chief Steve Spagnola
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Speaker 1: led defense gave up points in the fourth quarter of
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Speaker 1: three playoff games. We talk about the great comebacks in
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Speaker 1: all three games. We had watched party Wednesdays looking at
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Speaker 1: and we know what happened in the Super Bowl. Those
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Speaker 1: Not only were they getting those defensive stops, teams were
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Speaker 1: not scoring in the fourth quarter of the playoffs. Three
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Speaker 1: really good teams in playoff games. So it’s the key play,
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Speaker 1: key time and at crunch time that this defense stepped
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Speaker 1: up last year. Yeah, you always have to know what
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Speaker 1: you’re way, your loyalty last, and on defense, it always
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Speaker 1: talks about stopping to run, getting after the quarterback, and
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Speaker 1: d if you’re not able to stop the run, sooner
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Speaker 1: or later the offense, the opponent is going to continue
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Speaker 1: to run the ball, get for downs whether you can
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Speaker 1: stop them or not. You gotta sometimes get the ball
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Speaker 1: back for your offense. We have such a potent offense,
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Speaker 1: but if we’re not able to get the ball back
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Speaker 1: in pating mahomes hands and teams can run out eight
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Speaker 1: So that was always one of the most highlighting things
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Speaker 1: that needed to change going from two thousand and eighteen
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Speaker 1: to bring a new person there, a new staff, a
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Speaker 1: new philosophy of defense. It was gonna take a whole
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Speaker 1: season for these guys to really start to field one another.
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Speaker 1: And that’s what we saw. We talked about that second
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Speaker 1: eight games compared to the first eight games, the same
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Speaker 1: calls are being made, but guys started to feel confident
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Speaker 1: in each other. They knew each other had each other’s back,
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Speaker 1: they knew they saw things the same way on the
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and now they could all
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Speaker 1: that’s what I saw the second half of the season
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Speaker 1: that we did you see the first half. And the
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Speaker 1: coach Spegnola was confident enough in the personnel that he
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Speaker 1: didn’t bastardize the offense, I mean the defense. He didn’t
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Speaker 1: start changing people, start reworking in adjusting things. He knew
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Speaker 1: enough time and had enough confidence and communication with each other.
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Speaker 1: They had trust and that is a key key component
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Speaker 1: to having a playoff maun defense. All right, let’s get
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Speaker 1: jumped into this interview. I had a chance to talk
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Speaker 1: with Steve Spegnolo. We drill this down even further. We
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Speaker 1: take it down deep and then take it wide horizontally.
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Speaker 1: But Steve Spegnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator, talking about what
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Speaker 1: happened last year and what can happen this year with
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Speaker 1: this Chiefs defense. So in this edition of Defending the Kingdom,
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Speaker 1: we take it up a notch. Sean couldn’t be with me,
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Speaker 1: but you coached Sean Barber to it. He’s there’s only
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Speaker 1: one barbershop and there’s only one Steve Spegnola. We learned
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Speaker 1: that last year and seeing the SPAGS effect on this
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Speaker 1: world champion defense first of all, Spags. How you doing
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Speaker 1: in this stay at home Yeah, different world, Mitchum. Listen,
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Speaker 1: it’s been a it’s been rough, but it’s been a
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Speaker 1: blessing too. I’m sure you’re feeling the same thing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I’m learning about things that I never thought I would
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Speaker 1: take time to learn, not just technology, but ways to
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Speaker 1: keep yourself. I’m used and entertained. It’s been really terrific
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Speaker 1: as a as a coach at any level. Really, a
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Speaker 1: lot of time has spent away from your family, in
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Speaker 1: this case my wife, and so the time with her
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Speaker 1: has been terrific. And yet we do not forget what’s
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Speaker 1: going on out there. And you know, Mitch, you and
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Speaker 1: I are blessed in what we do and to be
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Speaker 1: continue to do what we’re doing, even though it’s a
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Speaker 1: little bit remotely. There are a lot of people out
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Speaker 1: there that are hurting through this and it’s going to
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Speaker 1: take a long time to recover. So that’s never lost
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Speaker 1: on us, no, sir, and we continue prayers, up, shopping
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Speaker 1: and talking about it all the time. The now. Last year,
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Speaker 1: this defense of the Chiefs just went through a transformation.
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Speaker 1: the first thing to me. The second thing is that
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Speaker 1: First of all six red zone takeaways, double what the
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Speaker 1: maverage of the league. That was impressive, But all of
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Speaker 1: those comebacks in the playoffs would not have happened without
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Speaker 1: But what we had always said to each other is, hey,
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Speaker 1: if we just keep getting him the football. And that
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Speaker 1: you know, keep points off the boards and our offense. Listen,
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Speaker 1: to just field goals, man, what probably won a lot
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Speaker 1: of games. You make the point about the red zone takeaways.
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Speaker 1: Those are huge. Until you said that, Mitche, I had
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Speaker 1: power those guys, the Spangs. A couple of areas I
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Speaker 1: What about that getting teams off the field. Yeah, listen,
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Speaker 1: Now a lot of teams nowadays and go for it,
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Speaker 1: four downs instead of three. We faced a few of those.
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Speaker 1: But I believe one of the things I didn’t look
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Speaker 1: well we played in the playoffs on third down. Our
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Speaker 1: goal is to keep the offense at thirty six percent.
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Speaker 1: I believe we did that in all three playoff games,
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Speaker 1: some of those I didn’t look at this close enough,
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Speaker 1: but maybe we’ve given up third downs earlier in those games.
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Speaker 1: more explosive defensive plays yourself eliminating the explosive plays, you know.
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Speaker 1: I think of the Denver game where that crowd could
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Speaker 1: and then you get the sack strip from Hitchens and
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Speaker 1: How much difference can that make? Yeah, just because I’m curious, Mitch,
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Speaker 1: how many would we have? How many did we have? Two, two, three,
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Speaker 1: It’s been the pandemics getting us. Mitch Oh, I’ll tell
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Speaker 1: you what it is. It’s crazy. The one hundred yard
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Speaker 1: Um I’d like to see us mench I know you
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Speaker 1: would too, create some more turnovers that You’ve heard the
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Speaker 1: honey Badger talk a number of times since the season’s
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Speaker 1: mean he looks at tape, he’s watched every every game
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Speaker 1: that was impressive at all three levels. The other thing
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Speaker 1: How much of that are you looking at? I remember
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Speaker 1: your defense, are you seeing potentially from this twenty twenty group. Well,
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Speaker 1: we know what our guys would pretty much know what
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Speaker 1: our guys Kennon can’t do. We’re to put them with
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Speaker 1: the blocks. And I do believe I’m glad you brought
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Speaker 1: think about it every day, the Mitch, because we’re looking
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Speaker 1: for creative ways to continue to feed the guys what
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Speaker 1: they already know and yet not let them get bored
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Speaker 1: with it. I mean, let’s face it, you and I
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Speaker 1: both Mitch wouldn’t much rather go out on the field
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Speaker 1: right and play the game or walk through or and communicate.
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Speaker 1: We don’t have the luxury of doing that right now.
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Speaker 1: But our guys have been great. One of the things
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Speaker 1: I’d doing in these meetings is we’re turning to light
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Speaker 1: the Hitchens the honey Badgers and having them actually do
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Speaker 1: the meeting. And in doing that, I think they absorbedly
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Speaker 1: got to prepare right they So I was on the
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Speaker 1: end this morning. Damian Wilson didn’t act a job presenting
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Speaker 1: something we did in the red zone, so which would
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Speaker 1: not turn it trying to turn them into teachers, Mitch,
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Speaker 1: but by teaching, I think they learn it better. So listen,
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Speaker 1: I challenge in the situation were it is to be
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Speaker 1: as creative as we can and have the guys, by repetition,
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Speaker 1: have as much in that football brain as they can
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Speaker 1: have so that when we go out and play. I mean, listen,
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Speaker 1: I think you would agree with me, Mitch that I
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Speaker 1: said this to the guys. We played faster to the
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Speaker 1: second half of the season because we knew what we
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Speaker 1: were doing. When you know what you’re doing, you can
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Speaker 1: play faster and you play more confidence. So we need
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Speaker 1: to continue to do that and not have to Now
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Speaker 1: we do go right back to squizzero now, I mean
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Speaker 1: we started from the ground up. We’re building the from
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Speaker 1: the ground up. And Mitch, you’re I’m sure you’re a
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Speaker 1: John Wooden fan, and you know John Well know John
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Speaker 1: Wooden and all his quotes. Hit said this to me.
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Speaker 1: I was talking with him yesterday about listen, we’re gonna
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Speaker 1: we’re gonna start from squeal one again, build this the
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Speaker 1: same way. Hopefully it gets build a little bit quicker,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And he said to me, Mitch,
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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, that’s kind of like John Wooden when
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Speaker 1: every year at UCLA he taught his players how to
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Speaker 1: lace their shoes. Every year, you talk about a detail,
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Speaker 1: right laceship, so hits it I talked about I thought
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Speaker 1: was a great point. When need to do the same thing,
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Speaker 1: we’ll be lacing them on. Love that. I love you,
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Speaker 1: thanks for what you brought into each kingdom and can’t
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Speaker 1: wait to see in the p person man same heats
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Speaker 1: be safe. Yes, they appreciate it. Steve Spagnola fascinating guy,
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Speaker 1: great personality, Sean when and it was fun to watch
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Speaker 1: him teach last year in last year in the offseason.
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Speaker 1: But this is a bright guy. But his personality too,
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Speaker 1: I think, also endears himself to his players and to
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Speaker 1: his own defensive staff. Yeah, they see how genuine he
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Speaker 1: is about the well being of his players. When a
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Speaker 1: guy puts you in situations to be successful over and
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Speaker 1: over again as a player, I mean you draw closer.
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Speaker 1: It’s a. It’s a. It’s a. It’s a. He’s magnetic
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Speaker 1: in the way he draws guys in to believing in
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Speaker 1: the defense as a whole. But when, like I said,
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Speaker 1: when a guy put you put you in place to
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Speaker 1: be successful over and over again on the practice field,
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Speaker 1: on the game field, you see it. He takes responsibility
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Speaker 1: and accountable accountability. If sometimes when when calls aren’t the
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Speaker 1: best calls in certain situations, it is not blaming the player.
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Speaker 1: And then in the prectace field, he takes you to
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Speaker 1: the side and he makes sure that you understand exactly
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Speaker 1: the purpose and understanding your position on every defense. Every
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Speaker 1: defense has a crucial, crucial factor to it of why
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Speaker 1: it works, and so he make sure that everybody on
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Speaker 1: defense knows why is it important for you to have
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Speaker 1: a certain leverage. Why is important for this disguise to
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Speaker 1: be held into the last minute, Because we don’t want
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Speaker 1: to show the quarterback this certain weakness and have them
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Speaker 1: just throw it there. We want them to hold onto
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Speaker 1: the ball and let the pass rush get there. It’s
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Speaker 1: it matters, and he makes sure that everybody across the
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Speaker 1: board and all three levels learns the nuances of each
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Speaker 1: of the defenses before they go play it out there.
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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Spanks had a chance to really redo the
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Speaker 1: whole defensive staff. Brett Reid helps Matt House with the
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Speaker 1: linebackers and that that’s working very well. Matt House was
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Speaker 1: coordinated at the University of Kentucky, so he brought the
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Speaker 1: college defensive elements to this defense. Brandon Daily, we know
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Speaker 1: was outstanding on the defensive line, winner of the world
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Speaker 1: title now two straight years New England and eighteen changed
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Speaker 1: in nineteen and then I really love the combo of
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Speaker 1: David Merritt and Sam Addison on the back end. And
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Speaker 1: then that’s not even mentioning the defensive quality role guys
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Speaker 1: and others that are very, very sharp. Spags started to
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Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit in the interview, but
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Speaker 1: a lot with me when I interviewed him last year
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season and into the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: was this staff is much like the whole staff as
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Speaker 1: a reflection of Andy Reid. This defensive staff is a
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Speaker 1: subculture that’s a reflection of Spags. Oh definitely, and he
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Speaker 1: will be the first he humbles himself a coach. Spag
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Speaker 1: is a great man of faith and he understands you
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Speaker 1: have to serve before you can lead. And that’s exactly
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Speaker 1: what he did with his staff. He made sure to
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Speaker 1: serve all these guys and understand, hey, man, I’m gonna
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Speaker 1: turn I’m gonna delegate power to you. I’m gonna make
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Speaker 1: sure you know what I expect. But then it’s going
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Speaker 1: to be your positions to manage as a coaching staff
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Speaker 1: and to develop these players and have them all on
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Speaker 1: the same page. But he empowers his coaches to instill
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Speaker 1: their you know, to impact their players and their positions.
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Speaker 1: The one thing he did for me personally is he
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Speaker 1: cultivated a sense of confidence in my own abilities. And
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Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean that when I came
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Speaker 1: out of the University of Richmond, there was a laundry
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Speaker 1: list of negatives about me as a linebacker. I was
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Speaker 1: under size the competition level. I didn’t play the run well.
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Speaker 1: You can run the ball at me to the point
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Speaker 1: of attack. And when you have a guy and you
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Speaker 1: constantly remind him about his negatives and then you want
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Speaker 1: him to go play at a high level, he can’t
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Speaker 1: help me be haunted by those negatives. But if you
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Speaker 1: have a coaching staff where the positives are being fostered,
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Speaker 1: the positives are being watered, the positives about their abilities
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Speaker 1: on and off the field are being cultivated in a way,
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Speaker 1: whether it builds your confidence and we see Passona I
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Speaker 1: got it, barely touched the field in eighteen becomes a
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Speaker 1: key component to our pass rush in nineteen, the same
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Speaker 1: exact player. I think it goes back to coach Magnola
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Speaker 1: cultivating a sense and the environment of Hey, coaches don’t
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Speaker 1: dwell on the negatives, figure out how they can help.
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Speaker 1: Tell it to me and will incorporated in our defense.
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Speaker 1: And we just gonna we’re gonna stay super positive with
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Speaker 1: these guys. Tell them how they can be great, how
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Speaker 1: we will be great if everybody plays together. You bring
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Speaker 1: up a good point, because what I noticed last year
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Speaker 1: with Spags and his defensive staff is they wouldn’t pigeonhole guys.
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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I’ve seen this happen in
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Speaker 1: football at all levels and even the Chiefs teams of
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Speaker 1: the past. You come out of Richmond, Oh you’re a
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Speaker 1: week side backer. You’re a pass cover guy. That’s what
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Speaker 1: you are. And then I say, you know he’s got limitations.
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Speaker 1: But with Spags, to me, I mean Tonnel Pastner is
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Speaker 1: a great example. He did five or six different things
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Speaker 1: with Pat t Kay pass He’s outside in like a
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Speaker 1: seven tech, he moved inside on subdowns. He would drop
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Speaker 1: in certain coverages. But he used that wingspan of him
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Speaker 1: that you mentioned to be a weapon a guy like
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Speaker 1: Thornhill or Rashad Fenton, where he saw them doing different things.
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Speaker 1: And that staff saw that too. Because I think defense league,
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Speaker 1: we’re all e victim of doing this. Sometimes we can
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Speaker 1: just pigeonhole people, put them in a spot and think
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Speaker 1: that’s what they’re gonna do, and sometimes it ends up
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Speaker 1: being a super negative because then we don’t utilize the
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Speaker 1: full ability of that player. Yeah, and I think one
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Speaker 1: of the things that coach Fagans also does not only
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Speaker 1: that pigeonhole, but he also the simplicity of his defense.
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Speaker 1: When you talk about being able to use younger guys
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Speaker 1: and not just relying on your veteran core, right veteran players,
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Speaker 1: this is a cap league veteran players calls more right,
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Speaker 1: You’re gonna you can only keep so many veteran players.
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Speaker 1: Now young players, You’re gonna have a lot of young players.
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Speaker 1: But as a staff, do you trust young guys out
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Speaker 1: on the field to communicate the defense the way you
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Speaker 1: want to communicate it. A few years ago, the complexity
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Speaker 1: of the defense might have cost certain young guys not
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Speaker 1: to be able to get on the field because they
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Speaker 1: couldn’t communicate the way the coordinator or the way the
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Speaker 1: staff wanted to communicate some of the complexities of the defense.
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Speaker 1: But when you make it simple, and you make it
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Speaker 1: so everybody, I can understand it. Everybody get on the
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Speaker 1: same page. That allows young guys to really be able
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Speaker 1: to impact, get on the field faster. And when you
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Speaker 1: talk about a season like this, the COVID nineteen, that
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Speaker 1: guy’s not being around. You want to be able to
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Speaker 1: have something that everybody can get on the same page
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Speaker 1: as fast as possible. To carry over from last year
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Speaker 1: to this year should be seamless, and we should have
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Speaker 1: young guys playing second year, third year guys looking like
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Speaker 1: their ninth year veterans out there on the field. So
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Speaker 1: I’m extremely excited to see this Chief’s defense going into
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Speaker 1: two and twenty, coming off the last eight games of
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Speaker 1: the year and using that as a as a springboard
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Speaker 1: to just starting so fast on the defensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball. Another compliment to coach Bagnola, his sea, this
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Speaker 1: defensive staff of getting his defense rolling. Yeah, you could
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Speaker 1: hear in the interview where he is not afraid to
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Speaker 1: play young guys. In fact, he’s excited to see what
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Speaker 1: a Willie Gay junior can do a linebacker. Let’s go.
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Speaker 1: I mean that’s like three or four podcasts to go
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Speaker 1: on Defending the Kingdom where we talked about Willie Gay Jr.
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Speaker 1: Being a potential of a Derek Johnson type guy. Explosive
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Speaker 1: plays on defense, there’s disruptive plays, a past knockdown, then
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Speaker 1: they’re on defensive explosive plays. We mentioned that a couple
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Speaker 1: podcasts ago, and that means the hundred yard fumble return
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Speaker 1: by breathing against Detroit at fourteen point swing the Denver
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Speaker 1: game in the regular season was swung with a sack, strip,
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Speaker 1: fumble run in for a fumble return for a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs had three of those plays last year. The
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Speaker 1: Ravens had six. You get two more of those plays
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Speaker 1: and maybe it comes from a young guy. These young
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Speaker 1: corners the Chiefs took in late rounds or the draft,
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Speaker 1: but then the undrafted free agents there’s I mean, there’s
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Speaker 1: a group of guys there who knows what spags that
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Speaker 1: can do with them. But he’s not afraid to play
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Speaker 1: young players. He’s not afraid to teach him. And I
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Speaker 1: guess to your point, the simplicity this defense can put
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Speaker 1: them on a faster track to help the Chiefs win
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Speaker 1: using the defensive side of the ball. In twenty twenty, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: one thing you hate is the players you hate to
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Speaker 1: be to feel thinking too much you want to be
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Speaker 1: able to react what the offense does. It’s hard enough
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Speaker 1: with the shifts and motions in the different ways screen game,
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Speaker 1: vertical game, all the different ways that we were seeing
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Speaker 1: coach read attack of defense. If he has guys out
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Speaker 1: there thinking it’s game over, that’s how he knows he
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Speaker 1: got you. But if guys on defense can align, know
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Speaker 1: their assignment, communicate and now I’ll just react and go
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Speaker 1: make plays, let their personality show, let their skill making
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Speaker 1: abilities be able to be reactionary and make players on
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Speaker 1: the ball, that’s when start you start seeing the legendary
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Speaker 1: type of defenses being able to play and react to
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Speaker 1: the ball. Guys all, I’m going one hundred and ten
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Speaker 1: percent pursuing the ball, reckless, abandoned, And that’s when guys
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Speaker 1: on defense start get really exciting about what can happen
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Speaker 1: once everybody’s on the same page. And so yes, I’m
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Speaker 1: so excited about what SPAGS has done from a fundamental standpoint,
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Speaker 1: putting in the fundamentals, but now being able to expand
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Speaker 1: upon what’s already been done in two nineteen. And I
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Speaker 1: think with the leadership I’m a Frank Clark, the leadership
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Speaker 1: of a Hitchens leadership of Honey Badger at all three levels.
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Speaker 1: They got people already in place that can show these
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Speaker 1: young guys, hey, this is how we do it here
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Speaker 1: in the Kingdom. We fly around with the stud of
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Speaker 1: the ball, but hey, we make plays. We’re not just
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Speaker 1: trying to get the ball back for the offense. We’re
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Speaker 1: trying to score on defense. We make plays. We’re a
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Speaker 1: bunch of playmakers. And I’m also excited you allude to
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Speaker 1: this to the year two to year three guy like
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Speaker 1: a Derek Natty or Dorian O’Daniel. O’Daniel started to get
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Speaker 1: it going towards the end of the season. Derek Natty
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Speaker 1: was an unsung hero of this team. Tono Passon, you know,
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Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier class ahead of those guys. But then
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Speaker 1: Colins Sanders what he does year one to year two,
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Speaker 1: Thornhill coming off the injury. Mentioned Rashad Fenton Nieman, we’ve
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Speaker 1: seen him on this basically as the subdown linebacker guy.
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Speaker 1: And then these other young guys. I mean, this has
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Speaker 1: a chance. I’ve been on national shows and they’re like, well, hey,
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Speaker 1: you know, can the Chiefs come back. It’s a really
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Speaker 1: tough schedule. Has kind of worked out for you guys.
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Speaker 1: I’m like, worked out for us, guys, but we lost
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Speaker 1: one hundred ninety quarters day injury and what if we’re
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Speaker 1: better Because to me, this team was closer last year
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Speaker 1: to fifteen and one than they were ten and six.
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Speaker 1: And I’m saying all the things we mentioned in this podcast,
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Speaker 1: and it’s why we’re excited about Spags. The Chiefs could
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Speaker 1: be better in twenty twenty, especially on the eventure side
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Speaker 1: of the ball man. When you when you’re acknowledge and
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Speaker 1: you understand what true competitors Coach Specnola his staff are.
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Speaker 1: I don’t think they look back at last season as
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Speaker 1: being the perfect season, even though it produced a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: The product was what we wanted. But the process, right,
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Speaker 1: they see so many areas of improvement when you talk
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Speaker 1: about the process, and they know that if you do
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Speaker 1: things the right way, odds are a number of times
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Speaker 1: it’s going to end up producing a successful game, a
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Speaker 1: successful season, and the opportunity to go play for that
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Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy. But it’s all about that process being great
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Speaker 1: than the product. And once you get everybody in the
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Speaker 1: room on that same page, you don’t have to worry
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Speaker 1: about guys not showing up ready to practice. You don’t
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Speaker 1: worry about guys missing weight room sessions or not preparing
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Speaker 1: themselves in all season. Everybody understands it’s the main thing.
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Speaker 1: Is still the main thing. Everybody wants to get themselves
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Speaker 1: on the championship level. And this team understands what it’s
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Speaker 1: a last year from a sacrifice, sacrificing your time with
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Speaker 1: your family, sacrificing your your body on defense and understanding
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Speaker 1: what it takes to come together and play championship style
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Speaker 1: football at an earlier level this season in last All right,
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Speaker 1: we’ll keep it going. Good luck to you or you
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Speaker 1: are spiders. Good luck to the University of barber College
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Speaker 1: Prep academy. You’ve got going on there, your wife and
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Speaker 1: you’ve done a phenomenal job. And this COVID stay at
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Speaker 1: home protocol. And again, like we say every week, continue
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Speaker 1: the prayers up and we’ll get through it. But but
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Speaker 1: way to go, my friend, and we get ready for
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We’re both excited at what this defense can do.
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Speaker 1: I think it can be really really good and be
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Speaker 1: the difference for the Chiefs moving forward. Yeah, it’s if
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Speaker 1: anybody I can give all the credit to, it’s definitely
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Speaker 1: my wife. She is the Andy Reid of our household.
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Speaker 1: She comes to with with unique packages for our kids
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Speaker 1: to learn and get the sporting events. Takes care of
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Speaker 1: me and everybody else. I’m kind of like the seventh
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Speaker 1: kid in this family, and she does it seamlessly. She
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Speaker 1: she just like Andy Reid, um without a hitch, just
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Speaker 1: lets everybody let the personality show. Um. It’s so committed
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Speaker 1: to the process. Man, I don’t give her enough credit
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Speaker 1: on the daily basis, so hopefully I can give her
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Speaker 1: some credit right here when it comes to the podcast.
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Speaker 1: But man, we all look so so look forward to
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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom throughout the entire season, especially in this offseason.
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Speaker 1: We wish everybody out there who’s watching, all our supporters,
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Speaker 1: all the followers, Man, take care of yourselves, be safe,
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Speaker 1: stay at home, but continue to have faith and keep
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Speaker 1: your prayers up. Did everybody’s taking care of themselves during
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Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen. Well, if you’re the ladies Andy Reid,
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Speaker 1: then you’re the span Yes, sir, they’re the Spags of
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Speaker 1: the Barber College Prep Academy. Thanks, my friend, and thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us on this edition of Defending the Kingdom
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Speaker 1: simply called Spags. We’re excited about twenty twenty. We’ll run
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Speaker 1: it back. Thanks for listening to the Chief’s official podcast
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Speaker 1: network to talks down, lost it down, and the celebration
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Speaker 1: begins in our head.


