Defending The Kingdom 5/27: Steve Spagnuolo Joins to Talk Chiefs Defense

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and 10 year NFL veteran and former Chiefs linebacker Shawn Barber team up for Defending The Kingdom. A unique approach to the inside look at everyone’s favorite topic – The Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: a baby. Well, Hello Chiefs, Kingdom, Hello one and all.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitch altis

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Speaker 1: with you Voice of the Chiefs, along with the man

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Speaker 1: now so well known as the Shop. He is the

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Speaker 1: official barber of the Kingdom. He is Barber Shop Spider

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Speaker 1: University of Richmond. University of Richmond the big fundraising campaign

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Speaker 1: this week. Try to get the Spiders back to that

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Speaker 1: national level and FCS, my friend, hope you and your

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Speaker 1: family are doing well. Man, we are, we are man

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Speaker 1: Man oh Almamad at University of Richmond with coach Hughesman Man,

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Speaker 1: I wish those those guys all the luck with these

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Speaker 1: tough times trying to find different places the guys to

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Speaker 1: work out. Man, it’s amazement think with a college athlete

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Speaker 1: to get his body in position for this fall upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: But I think coach Housman has done a great job.

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Speaker 1: He’s had alumni like myself calling on zoom and Skype,

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Speaker 1: really speaking leadership and speaking accountability to the current players.

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Speaker 1: So I think if it has a team ready to

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Speaker 1: take over in the CIA, it might be those Richmond status.

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Speaker 1: It’s just don’t like James Maddison here, he said, And

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Speaker 1: we love football at all levels. You and I are

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Speaker 1: big fans of high school football. So Division two football,

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Speaker 1: are plays the Missouri Valley Football Conference is something else

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Speaker 1: and it’s right around here in the Chiefs Kingdom. That

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Speaker 1: being said, at football at any level, you’ve got to

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Speaker 1: be successful on defense to even have a chance. And

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Speaker 1: we’re going to jump into this edition of defaming the

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Speaker 1: Kingdom of Spags and we’re just gonna leave it there.

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Speaker 1: And that’s what we’re gonna call this Spags because Spags

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Speaker 1: has become sean a big of a magnetic piece here

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Speaker 1: in this twenty twenty offseason. People so excited about winning

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Speaker 1: they’re going, oh yeah, the offense it’s the best in

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Speaker 1: the league. And Pat Mahomes and Kelsey and all the

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Speaker 1: others at Tyreek Hill. But the defense you knew Steve

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Speaker 1: Spagnolo before we all did. I watched him from Afar,

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Speaker 1: admired him. Saw what he did in OH seven with

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants in winning the World Championship, in

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Speaker 1: that big upset over New England. But you knew him

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Speaker 1: before he got here. What did we see last year

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Speaker 1: in more than twenty twenty man. One of the characteristics

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Speaker 1: He’s been so consistent, and we talk about that consistently.

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Speaker 1: As a coach, he expects out of the players. He

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Speaker 1: doesn’t expect you to be perfect, but he expects you

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Speaker 1: for the ball, and then collectively as a unit, your

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Speaker 1: perfect You should be in pursuit of playing your best ball,

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Speaker 1: no matter who the opponent is, no matter what their

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Speaker 1: proceed and win the ball game. I’m want to ask

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Speaker 1: key times, however, were at crunch time in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Sean three playoff games, this Kansas City Chief Steve Spagnola

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Speaker 1: or later the offense, the opponent is going to continue

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Speaker 1: And that’s what we saw. We talked about that second

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Speaker 1: to having a playoff maun defense. All right, let’s get

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Speaker 1: jumped into this interview. I had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: with Steve Spegnolo. We drill this down even further. We

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Speaker 1: take it down deep and then take it wide horizontally.

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Speaker 1: But Steve Spegnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator, talking about what

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Speaker 1: that last year and seeing the SPAGS effect on this

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Speaker 1: in this stay at home Yeah, different world, Mitchum. Listen,

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Speaker 1: it’s been a it’s been rough, but it’s been a

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Speaker 1: blessing too. I’m sure you’re feeling the same thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I’m learning about things that I never thought I would

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Speaker 1: take time to learn, not just technology, but ways to

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Speaker 1: keep yourself. I’m used and entertained. It’s been really terrific

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Speaker 1: lot of time has spent away from your family, in

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Speaker 1: this case my wife, and so the time with her

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Speaker 1: has been terrific. And yet we do not forget what’s

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Speaker 1: continue to do what we’re doing, even though it’s a

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Speaker 1: little bit remotely. There are a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: take a long time to recover. So that’s never lost

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Speaker 1: on us, no, sir, and we continue prayers, up, shopping

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Speaker 1: and talking about it all the time. The now. Last year,

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Speaker 1: to grind on teaching these guys. Well, great question. I

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Speaker 1: think about it every day, the Mitch, because we’re looking

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Speaker 1: for creative ways to continue to feed the guys what

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Speaker 1: they already know and yet not let them get bored

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Speaker 1: with it. I mean, let’s face it, you and I

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Speaker 1: both Mitch wouldn’t much rather go out on the field

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Speaker 1: right and play the game or walk through or and communicate.

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Speaker 1: We don’t have the luxury of doing that right now.

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Speaker 1: But our guys have been great. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I’d doing in these meetings is we’re turning to light

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Speaker 1: the Hitchens the honey Badgers and having them actually do

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Speaker 1: the meeting. And in doing that, I think they absorbedly

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Speaker 1: got to prepare right they So I was on the

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Speaker 1: end this morning. Damian Wilson didn’t act a job presenting

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Speaker 1: something we did in the red zone, so which would

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Speaker 1: not turn it trying to turn them into teachers, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: but by teaching, I think they learn it better. So listen,

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Speaker 1: I challenge in the situation were it is to be

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Speaker 1: as creative as we can and have the guys, by repetition,

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Speaker 1: have as much in that football brain as they can

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Speaker 1: have so that when we go out and play. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think you would agree with me, Mitch that I

435
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Speaker 1: said this to the guys. We played faster to the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season because we knew what we

437
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Speaker 1: were doing. When you know what you’re doing, you can

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Speaker 1: play faster and you play more confidence. So we need

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Speaker 1: to continue to do that and not have to Now

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00:22:56,640 –> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 1: we do go right back to squizzero now, I mean

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Speaker 1: we started from the ground up. We’re building the from

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Speaker 1: the ground up. And Mitch, you’re I’m sure you’re a

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Speaker 1: John Wooden fan, and you know John Well know John

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Speaker 1: Wooden and all his quotes. Hit said this to me.

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Speaker 1: I was talking with him yesterday about listen, we’re gonna

446
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Speaker 1: we’re gonna start from squeal one again, build this the

447
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Speaker 1: same way. Hopefully it gets build a little bit quicker,

448
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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And he said to me, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, that’s kind of like John Wooden when

450
00:23:25,840 –> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: every year at UCLA he taught his players how to

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Speaker 1: lace their shoes. Every year, you talk about a detail,

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Speaker 1: right laceship, so hits it I talked about I thought

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Speaker 1: was a great point. When need to do the same thing,

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Speaker 1: we’ll be lacing them on. Love that. I love you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for what you brought into each kingdom and can’t

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Speaker 1: wait to see in the p person man same heats

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Speaker 1: be safe. Yes, they appreciate it. Steve Spagnola fascinating guy,

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Speaker 1: great personality, Sean when and it was fun to watch

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Speaker 1: him teach last year in last year in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: But this is a bright guy. But his personality too,

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Speaker 1: I think, also endears himself to his players and to

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Speaker 1: his own defensive staff. Yeah, they see how genuine he

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Speaker 1: is about the well being of his players. When a

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Speaker 1: guy puts you in situations to be successful over and

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Speaker 1: over again as a player, I mean you draw closer.

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Speaker 1: It’s a. It’s a. It’s a. It’s a. He’s magnetic

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Speaker 1: in the way he draws guys in to believing in

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Speaker 1: the defense as a whole. But when, like I said,

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Speaker 1: when a guy put you put you in place to

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Speaker 1: be successful over and over again on the practice field,

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Speaker 1: on the game field, you see it. He takes responsibility

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Speaker 1: and accountable accountability. If sometimes when when calls aren’t the

473
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Speaker 1: best calls in certain situations, it is not blaming the player.

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Speaker 1: And then in the prectace field, he takes you to

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Speaker 1: the side and he makes sure that you understand exactly

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Speaker 1: the purpose and understanding your position on every defense. Every

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Speaker 1: defense has a crucial, crucial factor to it of why

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Speaker 1: it works, and so he make sure that everybody on

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Speaker 1: defense knows why is it important for you to have

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Speaker 1: a certain leverage. Why is important for this disguise to

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Speaker 1: be held into the last minute, Because we don’t want

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Speaker 1: to show the quarterback this certain weakness and have them

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Speaker 1: just throw it there. We want them to hold onto

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Speaker 1: the ball and let the pass rush get there. It’s

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Speaker 1: it matters, and he makes sure that everybody across the

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Speaker 1: board and all three levels learns the nuances of each

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Speaker 1: of the defenses before they go play it out there.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Spanks had a chance to really redo the

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Speaker 1: whole defensive staff. Brett Reid helps Matt House with the

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Speaker 1: linebackers and that that’s working very well. Matt House was

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Speaker 1: coordinated at the University of Kentucky, so he brought the

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Speaker 1: college defensive elements to this defense. Brandon Daily, we know

493
00:25:46,240 –> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: was outstanding on the defensive line, winner of the world

494
00:25:49,160 –> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: title now two straight years New England and eighteen changed

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00:25:52,320 –> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: in nineteen and then I really love the combo of

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Speaker 1: David Merritt and Sam Addison on the back end. And

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Speaker 1: then that’s not even mentioning the defensive quality role guys

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Speaker 1: and others that are very, very sharp. Spags started to

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Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit in the interview, but

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Speaker 1: a lot with me when I interviewed him last year

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season and into the playoffs,

502
00:26:11,040 –> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: was this staff is much like the whole staff as

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Speaker 1: a reflection of Andy Reid. This defensive staff is a

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00:26:17,840 –> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: subculture that’s a reflection of Spags. Oh definitely, and he

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Speaker 1: will be the first he humbles himself a coach. Spag

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Speaker 1: is a great man of faith and he understands you

507
00:26:26,280 –> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: have to serve before you can lead. And that’s exactly

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Speaker 1: what he did with his staff. He made sure to

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Speaker 1: serve all these guys and understand, hey, man, I’m gonna

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Speaker 1: turn I’m gonna delegate power to you. I’m gonna make

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Speaker 1: sure you know what I expect. But then it’s going

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Speaker 1: to be your positions to manage as a coaching staff

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00:26:42,320 –> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: and to develop these players and have them all on

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Speaker 1: the same page. But he empowers his coaches to instill

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Speaker 1: their you know, to impact their players and their positions.

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Speaker 1: The one thing he did for me personally is he

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00:26:54,800 –> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: cultivated a sense of confidence in my own abilities. And

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Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean that when I came

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00:26:59,880 –> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: out of the University of Richmond, there was a laundry

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Speaker 1: list of negatives about me as a linebacker. I was

521
00:27:05,440 –> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: under size the competition level. I didn’t play the run well.

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Speaker 1: You can run the ball at me to the point

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Speaker 1: of attack. And when you have a guy and you

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Speaker 1: constantly remind him about his negatives and then you want

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Speaker 1: him to go play at a high level, he can’t

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Speaker 1: help me be haunted by those negatives. But if you

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Speaker 1: have a coaching staff where the positives are being fostered,

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00:27:26,920 –> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: the positives are being watered, the positives about their abilities

529
00:27:31,160 –> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: on and off the field are being cultivated in a way,

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00:27:34,040 –> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: whether it builds your confidence and we see Passona I

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Speaker 1: got it, barely touched the field in eighteen becomes a

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Speaker 1: key component to our pass rush in nineteen, the same

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00:27:46,760 –> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: exact player. I think it goes back to coach Magnola

534
00:27:50,280 –> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: cultivating a sense and the environment of Hey, coaches don’t

535
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Speaker 1: dwell on the negatives, figure out how they can help.

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Speaker 1: Tell it to me and will incorporated in our defense.

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Speaker 1: And we just gonna we’re gonna stay super positive with

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Speaker 1: these guys. Tell them how they can be great, how

539
00:28:05,359 –> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: we will be great if everybody plays together. You bring

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00:28:08,920 –> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: up a good point, because what I noticed last year

541
00:28:12,080 –> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: with Spags and his defensive staff is they wouldn’t pigeonhole guys.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I’ve seen this happen in

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Speaker 1: football at all levels and even the Chiefs teams of

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00:28:20,600 –> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: the past. You come out of Richmond, Oh you’re a

545
00:28:23,960 –> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: week side backer. You’re a pass cover guy. That’s what

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Speaker 1: you are. And then I say, you know he’s got limitations.

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Speaker 1: But with Spags, to me, I mean Tonnel Pastner is

548
00:28:35,280 –> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: a great example. He did five or six different things

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00:28:37,960 –> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: with Pat t Kay pass He’s outside in like a

550
00:28:41,040 –> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: seven tech, he moved inside on subdowns. He would drop

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00:28:44,880 –> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: in certain coverages. But he used that wingspan of him

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned to be a weapon a guy like

553
00:28:52,360 –> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Thornhill or Rashad Fenton, where he saw them doing different things.

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00:28:57,440 –> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: And that staff saw that too. Because I think defense league,

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00:29:00,680 –> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: we’re all e victim of doing this. Sometimes we can

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00:29:02,760 –> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: just pigeonhole people, put them in a spot and think

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00:29:05,320 –> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: that’s what they’re gonna do, and sometimes it ends up

558
00:29:07,800 –> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: being a super negative because then we don’t utilize the

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00:29:11,640 –> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: full ability of that player. Yeah, and I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that coach Fagans also does not only

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00:29:17,040 –> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: that pigeonhole, but he also the simplicity of his defense.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about being able to use younger guys

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00:29:23,240 –> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: and not just relying on your veteran core, right veteran players,

564
00:29:27,120 –> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: this is a cap league veteran players calls more right,

565
00:29:30,680 –> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: You’re gonna you can only keep so many veteran players.

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Speaker 1: Now young players, You’re gonna have a lot of young players.

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00:29:35,960 –> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: But as a staff, do you trust young guys out

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Speaker 1: on the field to communicate the defense the way you

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00:29:41,640 –> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: want to communicate it. A few years ago, the complexity

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Speaker 1: of the defense might have cost certain young guys not

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Speaker 1: to be able to get on the field because they

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00:29:49,840 –> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: couldn’t communicate the way the coordinator or the way the

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00:29:52,680 –> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: staff wanted to communicate some of the complexities of the defense.

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Speaker 1: But when you make it simple, and you make it

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00:29:59,320 –> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: so everybody, I can understand it. Everybody get on the

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00:30:01,440 –> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: same page. That allows young guys to really be able

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Speaker 1: to impact, get on the field faster. And when you

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Speaker 1: talk about a season like this, the COVID nineteen, that

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Speaker 1: guy’s not being around. You want to be able to

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00:30:13,160 –> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: have something that everybody can get on the same page

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Speaker 1: as fast as possible. To carry over from last year

582
00:30:18,640 –> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: to this year should be seamless, and we should have

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00:30:22,000 –> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: young guys playing second year, third year guys looking like

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00:30:25,720 –> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: their ninth year veterans out there on the field. So

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Speaker 1: I’m extremely excited to see this Chief’s defense going into

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Speaker 1: two and twenty, coming off the last eight games of

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00:30:34,840 –> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: the year and using that as a as a springboard

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00:30:38,120 –> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: to just starting so fast on the defensive side of

589
00:30:40,440 –> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: the ball. Another compliment to coach Bagnola, his sea, this

590
00:30:45,040 –> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: defensive staff of getting his defense rolling. Yeah, you could

591
00:30:48,760 –> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: hear in the interview where he is not afraid to

592
00:30:51,120 –> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: play young guys. In fact, he’s excited to see what

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00:30:54,160 –> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: a Willie Gay junior can do a linebacker. Let’s go.

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Speaker 1: I mean that’s like three or four podcasts to go

595
00:30:58,880 –> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: on Defending the Kingdom where we talked about Willie Gay Jr.

596
00:31:02,000 –> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Being a potential of a Derek Johnson type guy. Explosive

597
00:31:05,120 –> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: plays on defense, there’s disruptive plays, a past knockdown, then

598
00:31:10,000 –> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: they’re on defensive explosive plays. We mentioned that a couple

599
00:31:13,480 –> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: podcasts ago, and that means the hundred yard fumble return

600
00:31:16,880 –> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: by breathing against Detroit at fourteen point swing the Denver

601
00:31:20,320 –> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: game in the regular season was swung with a sack, strip,

602
00:31:22,600 –> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: fumble run in for a fumble return for a touchdown.

603
00:31:25,280 –> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: The Chiefs had three of those plays last year. The

604
00:31:27,400 –> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Ravens had six. You get two more of those plays

605
00:31:30,640 –> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: and maybe it comes from a young guy. These young

606
00:31:32,960 –> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: corners the Chiefs took in late rounds or the draft,

607
00:31:36,240 –> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: but then the undrafted free agents there’s I mean, there’s

608
00:31:38,760 –> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: a group of guys there who knows what spags that

609
00:31:42,920 –> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: can do with them. But he’s not afraid to play

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00:31:45,600 –> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: young players. He’s not afraid to teach him. And I

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00:31:48,760 –> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: guess to your point, the simplicity this defense can put

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00:31:51,520 –> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: them on a faster track to help the Chiefs win

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00:31:54,960 –> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: using the defensive side of the ball. In twenty twenty, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one thing you hate is the players you hate to

615
00:31:59,720 –> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: be to feel thinking too much you want to be

616
00:32:02,160 –> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: able to react what the offense does. It’s hard enough

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Speaker 1: with the shifts and motions in the different ways screen game,

618
00:32:08,120 –> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: vertical game, all the different ways that we were seeing

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Speaker 1: coach read attack of defense. If he has guys out

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Speaker 1: there thinking it’s game over, that’s how he knows he

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Speaker 1: got you. But if guys on defense can align, know

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Speaker 1: their assignment, communicate and now I’ll just react and go

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Speaker 1: make plays, let their personality show, let their skill making

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Speaker 1: abilities be able to be reactionary and make players on

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Speaker 1: the ball, that’s when start you start seeing the legendary

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Speaker 1: type of defenses being able to play and react to

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Speaker 1: the ball. Guys all, I’m going one hundred and ten

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Speaker 1: percent pursuing the ball, reckless, abandoned, And that’s when guys

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Speaker 1: once everybody’s on the same page. And so yes, I’m

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Speaker 1: so excited about what SPAGS has done from a fundamental standpoint,

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Speaker 1: putting in the fundamentals, but now being able to expand

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Speaker 1: upon what’s already been done in two nineteen. And I

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Speaker 1: think with the leadership I’m a Frank Clark, the leadership

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Speaker 1: of a Hitchens leadership of Honey Badger at all three levels.

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Speaker 1: They got people already in place that can show these

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Speaker 1: young guys, hey, this is how we do it here

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Speaker 1: in the Kingdom. We fly around with the stud of

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Speaker 1: the ball, but hey, we make plays. We’re not just

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Speaker 1: trying to get the ball back for the offense. We’re

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Speaker 1: trying to score on defense. We make plays. We’re a

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Speaker 1: bunch of playmakers. And I’m also excited you allude to

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Speaker 1: this to the year two to year three guy like

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Speaker 1: a Derek Natty or Dorian O’Daniel. O’Daniel started to get

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Speaker 1: it going towards the end of the season. Derek Natty

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Speaker 1: was an unsung hero of this team. Tono Passon, you know,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier class ahead of those guys. But then

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Speaker 1: Colins Sanders what he does year one to year two,

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Speaker 1: Thornhill coming off the injury. Mentioned Rashad Fenton Nieman, we’ve

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Speaker 1: seen him on this basically as the subdown linebacker guy.

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Speaker 1: And then these other young guys. I mean, this has

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Speaker 1: a chance. I’ve been on national shows and they’re like, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, can the Chiefs come back. It’s a really

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Speaker 1: tough schedule. Has kind of worked out for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I’m like, worked out for us, guys, but we lost

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Speaker 1: one hundred ninety quarters day injury and what if we’re

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Speaker 1: better Because to me, this team was closer last year

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Speaker 1: to fifteen and one than they were ten and six.

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Speaker 1: And I’m saying all the things we mentioned in this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and it’s why we’re excited about Spags. The Chiefs could

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Speaker 1: be better in twenty twenty, especially on the eventure side

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Speaker 1: of the ball man. When you when you’re acknowledge and

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Speaker 1: you understand what true competitors Coach Specnola his staff are.

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Speaker 1: I don’t think they look back at last season as

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Speaker 1: being the perfect season, even though it produced a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The product was what we wanted. But the process, right,

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Speaker 1: they see so many areas of improvement when you talk

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Speaker 1: about the process, and they know that if you do

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Speaker 1: things the right way, odds are a number of times

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Speaker 1: it’s going to end up producing a successful game, a

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Speaker 1: successful season, and the opportunity to go play for that

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Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy. But it’s all about that process being great

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Speaker 1: than the product. And once you get everybody in the

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Speaker 1: room on that same page, you don’t have to worry

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Speaker 1: about guys not showing up ready to practice. You don’t

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Speaker 1: worry about guys missing weight room sessions or not preparing

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Speaker 1: themselves in all season. Everybody understands it’s the main thing.

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Speaker 1: Is still the main thing. Everybody wants to get themselves

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Speaker 1: on the championship level. And this team understands what it’s

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Speaker 1: a last year from a sacrifice, sacrificing your time with

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Speaker 1: your family, sacrificing your your body on defense and understanding

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Speaker 1: what it takes to come together and play championship style

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Speaker 1: football at an earlier level this season in last All right,

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Speaker 1: we’ll keep it going. Good luck to you or you

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Speaker 1: are spiders. Good luck to the University of barber College

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Speaker 1: Prep academy. You’ve got going on there, your wife and

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Speaker 1: you’ve done a phenomenal job. And this COVID stay at

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Speaker 1: home protocol. And again, like we say every week, continue

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Speaker 1: the prayers up and we’ll get through it. But but

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Speaker 1: way to go, my friend, and we get ready for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We’re both excited at what this defense can do.

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Speaker 1: I think it can be really really good and be

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Speaker 1: the difference for the Chiefs moving forward. Yeah, it’s if

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Speaker 1: anybody I can give all the credit to, it’s definitely

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Speaker 1: my wife. She is the Andy Reid of our household.

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Speaker 1: She comes to with with unique packages for our kids

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Speaker 1: to learn and get the sporting events. Takes care of

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Speaker 1: me and everybody else. I’m kind of like the seventh

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Speaker 1: kid in this family, and she does it seamlessly. She

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Speaker 1: she just like Andy Reid, um without a hitch, just

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Speaker 1: lets everybody let the personality show. Um. It’s so committed

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Speaker 1: to the process. Man, I don’t give her enough credit

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Speaker 1: on the daily basis, so hopefully I can give her

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Speaker 1: some credit right here when it comes to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But man, we all look so so look forward to

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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom throughout the entire season, especially in this offseason.

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Speaker 1: We wish everybody out there who’s watching, all our supporters,

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Speaker 1: all the followers, Man, take care of yourselves, be safe,

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Speaker 1: stay at home, but continue to have faith and keep

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Speaker 1: your prayers up. Did everybody’s taking care of themselves during

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Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen. Well, if you’re the ladies Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: then you’re the span Yes, sir, they’re the Spags of

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Speaker 1: the Barber College Prep Academy. Thanks, my friend, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us on this edition of Defending the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: simply called Spags. We’re excited about twenty twenty. We’ll run

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Speaker 1: it back. Thanks for listening to the Chief’s official podcast

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Speaker 1: network to talks down, lost it down, and the celebration

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Speaker 1: begins in our head.

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