Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Senior Team Reporter Matt McMullen talk through the Chiefs’ upcoming roster decisions as the regular season looms, plus Field Yates from ESPN stops by the show!
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Speaker 1: Tensions usually run high in the National Football League, but
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Speaker 1: they’re exceptionally high during this time of year because the
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Speaker 1: cutdown date is just around the corner. So it’s decisions, decisions,
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Speaker 1: even for your fantasy team. All of that we’re going
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Speaker 1: to cover on this edition of Defending the Kingdom, and
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Speaker 2: It on an RPO at the fine it’s a league plot.
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Speaker 1: He goes into the ends on this side touchdown Chas City.
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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I’m Mitcheld’s voice of the Chiefs along with
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Speaker 1: senior team reporter Mac McMullen. Yes, we will have ESPN’s
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Speaker 1: Field Yates on this episode to talk about fantasy football,
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Speaker 1: which has gone to like way levels so crazy. You
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Speaker 1: can actually get your doctorate now in fantasy football from
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Speaker 1: any IVY league school. But anyway, let’s deal with reality
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Speaker 1: football first, and that is decisions, decisions. As we post this,
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are getting ready to have their third and
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Speaker 1: final preseason game, the only preseason game at home against
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. But we are getting down to the
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Speaker 1: finals here of trying to figure out the fifty three
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Speaker 1: person roster. There is so much that goes into the decisions.
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Speaker 1: We’ll kind of dive into that into this episode, but
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Speaker 1: your thoughts overall as we are right here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s pretty cool because we’ve been talking about this
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Speaker 3: process for months now and we love it, right. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it really starts in February with all the reserve future
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Speaker 3: contracts and you get into free agency in March, the draft, obviously,
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Speaker 3: all the off season practices in training camp, and we
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Speaker 3: kind of got to see this team come together. And
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Speaker 3: who are some players that were watching that we weren’t
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Speaker 3: necessarily thinking about before the off season training program began.
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Speaker 3: Who surprised us, who disappointed us? All that stuff, and
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Speaker 3: now we have a chance to see what this team
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Speaker 3: will initially look like here in just a few days.
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Speaker 3: It’s important to note though, that as exciting as it is,
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Speaker 3: it’s also kind of a tough time in the NFL
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Speaker 3: because over the matter of a few hours, like twelve
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Speaker 3: hundred players will be without a job, and it’s tough.
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Speaker 3: We talk about how cool it is for so many
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Speaker 3: of these guys that they’re experiencing like a lifelong dream
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Speaker 3: of playing professional football, and many of them this door
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Speaker 3: will close. So I think it’s important to remember that.
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Speaker 3: But from a team building perspective. This time of year
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Speaker 3: is a lot of fun, and with the previous thought
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Speaker 3: in mind, there are some players that maybe many didn’t
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Speaker 3: give them a chance to make it in the NFL,
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Speaker 3: and they’re going to have a shot now to possibly
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Speaker 3: make this team.
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Speaker 1: One of the blessings that I get is I get
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Speaker 1: to introduce the entire team in front of about twelve
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Speaker 1: hundred fans at the kickoff luncheon, and it’s really cool.
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Speaker 1: But in the back of my heart, as I’m introducing
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Speaker 1: these guys, I realize that many of them will not
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Speaker 1: be on the team a week from now. And so
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Speaker 1: one story, a guy named Jorn Nipmo I’ve told you
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Speaker 1: the story before made He was work construction. He had
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Speaker 1: tried out with like seven different teams. He made our
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Speaker 1: team as a placekicker, and I introduced him like he’s
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Speaker 1: seven different construction jobs and you know you aren’t Nimro
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Speaker 1: and he’s just pumping his fists in front of thousands
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Speaker 1: and Marty Schottenheimer is the coach at the time. He goes.
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Speaker 1: I got to tell Nipmo after the dinner where he’s cut,
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Speaker 1: oh Man, we just traded for Pete Joanovich. So, and
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Speaker 1: I saw it in twenty thirteen when we were turning
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Speaker 1: the roster over seven guys on a Saturday night, thought
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Speaker 1: they made the team. Sunday morning, they were all cut
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Speaker 1: because we were the first pick on the waiver wire
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Speaker 1: after two and fourteen, and John Dorsey’s staff that time,
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Speaker 1: we were just like picking guys the Magnificent Seven.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So this is a time of tension, and so there’s
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Speaker 1: a time of anticipation, but dreams are at least delayed,
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Speaker 1: if not dashed during this time of year.
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Speaker 3: So I’m not going to say who this player was,
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Speaker 3: but I saw this happen at training camp in the
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Speaker 3: last day. He was walking down the hill and his
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Speaker 3: family was there in the VIP area, And for a
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Speaker 3: lot of players, the last day of training camp is
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Speaker 3: a celebrate because you’re getting out of there, you’re done
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Speaker 3: last day, and you could see it on his face.
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Speaker 3: He’s like, yep, last day, And I don’t know that
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Speaker 3: kind of stuck with me. Where these guys that are
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Speaker 3: beyond that bubble, know that this might be it, But
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Speaker 3: at least for a couple of months you were on
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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. And again some of them might
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Speaker 3: surprise some people and make this team or make the
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Speaker 3: practice squad and you’ll see him later this year. But
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Speaker 3: just important to remember that that these are human beings
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Speaker 3: and it’s not a video game.
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Speaker 1: Well, one area we don’t cut is around the world.
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Speaker 1: So what do you have for around the world today?
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Speaker 3: I’ve got eight today? Whoa eight for Christian Christian Yeah,
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Speaker 3: who is back practicing and we’ll hopefully see him in
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Speaker 3: week one.
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Speaker 1: There’s also Keishawn Smith who’s on the offensive side wearing
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Speaker 1: number eight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how do you feel about the double numbers
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Speaker 3: as a radio open.
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Speaker 1: I hate him. Its privilege is the worst and you
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Speaker 1: can’t have them out there at the same time. But
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Speaker 1: the other night NFL there is not that rule and
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Speaker 1: so on kickoff coverage. I don’t know if you saw this,
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Speaker 1: Joshua Williams was standing next to Taekwon Thornton two number two.
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Speaker 1: It’s like, who’s your guest, so go make the tackle.
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Speaker 1: But yes, not a fan of duplicate numbers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I’m glad I’m not spotting for you in the preseason.
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Speaker 3: I get off the hook on that one because that
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Speaker 3: would be ridiculously hard. Okay, So around the world. I
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Speaker 3: heard from Carol and Gilbert Arizona. She was at the
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Speaker 3: preseason opener a few weeks ago. Hi, Carol, shout out
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Speaker 3: to Claude and Trish in southwest Florida. They’re moving to
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Speaker 3: Acon County, South Carolina next month. We’re kind of spreading
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Speaker 3: the kingdom. So good luck on your move. Mitch is
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Speaker 3: in Fayette, Missouri, home of the.
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well it’s home of Missouri Valley. No, no,
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Speaker 1: Fayetts Central Methodist. Central Methodist is in Missouri.
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Speaker 3: This might be the high school. Oh shoot, it’s alliterative.
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Speaker 3: You got me the Falcons, the Falcons name in Columbia. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that’s true.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful campus. By the way, Central Methodist.
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Speaker 3: I remember when, uh, because I went to school at
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Speaker 3: the Zoo. Whenever I was like trying to make it
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Speaker 3: to make it in time, I’d see Fayette and be
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Speaker 3: like I’m almost there.
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Speaker 1: Almost.
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Speaker 3: Patricia is in Weathersfield, Connecticut. Ever been to Weathersfield, Connecticut?
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Speaker 1: I haven’t want to.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we’ll have to go. Richard is in Southwest Texas.
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Speaker 3: Been a fan since the Joe Montana and Marcus Allen days.
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Speaker 1: Well, that narrows it down.
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Speaker 3: I think he mentioned he was, He mentioned he was,
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Speaker 3: he was nearby something I can’t remember, but yeah, Southwest Texas.
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Speaker 3: Get some more information there. Richard Mark is listening in Regina, Saskatchewan. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Or Canadians in there, Canadian Kingdom Defenders.
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Speaker 3: Of another one for you too. Martha is in bo Island, Alberta.
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Speaker 3: We’re hitting all the provinces.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Do we sing on Canada before the show, then.
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Speaker 3: I think we should? Or he’s a Canadian flag NHL
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Speaker 3: or NBA games. Yeah. And then we got another Richard
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Speaker 3: listening from Pekan Community High School.
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Speaker 1: Peak and peakan peakan Illinois tradition me Nevada, Nevada, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: home of the I don’t want to tell you what
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Speaker 1: their old nickname is because it was controversial.
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, well I think they’ve changed it.
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Speaker 1: This one to start with the sea.
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Speaker 3: And No, this one I think is not controversial.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what is it? They changed it?
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Speaker 3: This is the Panthers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they changed it. Okay, and the old one
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Speaker 1: then an I and then I won’t go any farther.
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Speaker 3: Redacted, yeah, redacted? Okay, Panthers now Panthers.
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Speaker 1: Good peaking community. Yeah, I’m not far from Peoria, AKA, right. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And then I had the great circumstance of being in
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Speaker 1: the Joplin, Missouri Pittsburgh, Kansas market. It’s a whole TV market.
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Speaker 1: And we know Missouri Southern is in Joplin, and and uh,
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Speaker 3: Obviously Austin Woodard in Joplin.
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Speaker 1: And and yes, most so offensive Lineman. But I saw
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Speaker 1: the war wagon to the war Wagon. Did I give
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Speaker 1: you the video of that now?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? That yes? Really cool, really cool.
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Speaker 1: Red flamingo and red chef. This is the coolest. I’m
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Speaker 1: gonna put this on I’m gonna put this on X.
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Speaker 1: I’ll put it on X and show everybody the coolest
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Speaker 1: Chiefs vehicle I’ve seen yet. The paint job is amazing.
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Speaker 3: They funded this thing, Oh yeah, they funded it.
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Speaker 1: They’re your favorite jewelers there but I won’t I’ll go
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Speaker 1: that far anyway. You got to see this thing. It’s
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Speaker 1: it’s amazing. I’ll put it on social and you guys
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Speaker 1: can make your own opinion. But that was a little
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Speaker 1: piece of around the world. Before we go to field
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Speaker 1: Yates and find your decisions decisions that you’re going to
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Speaker 1: make for your fantasy team, we’ll get to ESPN’s field
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Speaker 1: Yates over all your thoughts on the decisions decisions for
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Speaker 1: this Chiefs team and where you see the most challenging
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Speaker 1: or down to the wired decisions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is a good problem to have when
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Speaker 3: you’re a really good team like the Chiefs. The reality
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Speaker 3: is there are going to be a bunch of good
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Speaker 3: players that don’t make the team. And some players that
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Speaker 3: we’ve talked about been on Ovis. Yeah, like we talked
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Speaker 3: about twenty thirteen, that’s a situation where you’re trying to
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Speaker 3: get as many good players as you possibly can. We’re
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Speaker 3: in a good spot where we have a lot of
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Speaker 3: good players fighting for roster spots. That competition is a
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Speaker 3: good thing, and they’re not all gonna make it. And
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Speaker 3: some players that really impressed us during the preseason and
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Speaker 3: training camp are going to go somewhere else and get
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Speaker 3: scooped up and happy for them. It’s a good problem
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Speaker 3: to have for the Chiefs. But anyway, what are some
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Speaker 3: of those position groups? Well, I think we’re going to
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Speaker 3: keep seven receivers, and I think we’ll probably end up
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Speaker 3: keeping four running backs. I don’t know for sure, but
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Speaker 3: that seems likely. So how do you get there? Whenever
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Speaker 3: you keep an extra player at a position, it means
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Speaker 3: you’re keeping one less somewhere else. So I think you know,
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Speaker 3: you probably end up with nine offensive linemen in that instance,
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Speaker 3: and also you’re taking some players away from the defense,
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Speaker 3: so you might end up with nine defensive linemen. How
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Speaker 3: do you break that up? Is it five defensive ends,
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Speaker 1: Worthy may have one seventy five to one week and
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Speaker 1: they have one target the next. But that’s by design. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, I keep telling people this, and this has been
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Speaker 4: one of the spirited conversations I’ve had so var in
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Speaker 4: August is where do you rank Patrick Mahomes? And I’d
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Speaker 4: say lower in fantasy than in reality. You know why,
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Speaker 4: because the Chiefs don’t need Patrick Mahomes with for three
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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns every single week.
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Speaker 4: Last year especially, was a season in which if you
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Speaker 4: play elite defense, you play opportunistic offense, and you win
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Speaker 4: all like the hitting yardage plays and you make all
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Speaker 4: these sort of the championship type plays, You’re gonna win
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Speaker 4: a lot of games. Right, blocking field goals against Denver
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Speaker 4: Laden games to grind out a close win. Things that
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Speaker 4: maybe go on go beyond the box score. So if
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs were back in twenty eighteen nineteen, when the
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Speaker 4: way that they won was outpacing you forty one to
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Speaker 4: twenty six, they’ll do that. But we’re in a different
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Speaker 4: era of the Chiefs for right now, and Patrick will
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Speaker 4: always put the team in winning first. That he’s not
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Speaker 4: going to go to Andy and say, hey, you better
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Speaker 4: start designing a bunch more shot plays for me because
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Speaker 4: my stats are too low. He’s motivated by the opportunity
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Speaker 4: to get to a fourth ring.
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Speaker 3: So the Chiefs aren’t a great fantasy team. They’re a
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Speaker 3: pretty good football team though I think.
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Speaker 4: They have some greatness though on that page, it just
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Speaker 4: like it’s harder to predict as opposed to teams that
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Speaker 4: are not as great real teams but are very like
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Speaker 4: Chalky fantasy team’s weekend Weekend.
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Speaker 3: Well, what are your expectations for the Chiefs the real
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Speaker 3: football team this year trying to bounce back from what
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Speaker 3: happened at the end of last season?
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Speaker 2: Very high.
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Speaker 4: There are five teams this year that I think if
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Speaker 4: they don’t win the Super Bowl, you can basically call
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Speaker 4: the season a disappointment. The team itself may not say that.
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Speaker 4: I think the fan bases would feel that way, and
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs are there until further notice.
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Speaker 2: Right that the super Bowl is the standard.
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Speaker 4: There is ninety nine point five percent good things that
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Speaker 4: come from being one of the most successful teams we’ve
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Speaker 4: ever seen in league history, and there’s point five percent
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Speaker 4: bad things. The point five percent bad things are that
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Speaker 4: you have these expectations that you can go fifteen to
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Speaker 4: two and not win the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: People can say, eh, all for me, forget about it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So to me though, like still a championship
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Speaker 4: caliber defense. The offense to me, looks more explosive on paper,
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Speaker 4: the reshaping of the offensive line. Josh Simmons was just
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Speaker 4: an unbelievably impressive prospect prior to the injury. Last year,
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Speaker 4: he was dominant as dominant can be, and by all accounts,
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Speaker 4: has looked really, really sharp. I’ve seen some of the
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Speaker 4: preseason tape, but have you read very carefully all the
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Speaker 4: reports from practice, and it sounds like this is a
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Speaker 4: player who is bucking the trend because it can be
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Speaker 4: hard as a three hundred and twenty pound guy to
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Speaker 4: come back from a big battell attendant injury. But if
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Speaker 4: the offensive line plays up to expectations, no reason that
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Speaker 4: this team won’t be playing big games in the January.
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Speaker 2: Maybe fef your worry too.
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Speaker 1: I got to ask you, though theory here your favorite
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Speaker 1: because I’m waiting for the fantasy league that will really
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Speaker 1: value defense. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He always talks about us.
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Speaker 1: I talk about this all the time. I just somehow
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Speaker 1: you get it closer to reality football. And there’s some
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Speaker 1: leagues that are as simplistic as yards and touchdowns, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: which people have fun with it. But what’s your favorite structure? Okay,
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Speaker 1: right now? Yep. And two, how do we get defense
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Speaker 1: involved in fantasy football other than sax and picks?
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Speaker 4: That’s a good question. So I think that what we
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Speaker 4: need to do for defense is we need to reward.
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Speaker 4: So when you start a week you get ten points
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Speaker 4: on fantasy and you start to lose points by yardage
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Speaker 4: allowed or points allowed, we got to either up that
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Speaker 4: number from ten to twenty, or we got to make
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Speaker 4: it less punitive to give up like seven points. Like
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Speaker 4: a team can allow ten points, have three sacks interception,
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Speaker 4: which is a great defensive performance, and they get like
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Speaker 4: twelve points.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that does make sense to me. But my favorite
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Speaker 2: structure right now, this is a fun moether.
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Speaker 4: I think people should try this. They haven’t done it before.
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Speaker 4: This is something that’s gaining a lot of steam. Is
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Speaker 4: you call them guilleteam leagues. Where you begin the season
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Speaker 4: and whether there’s ten, twelve, sixteen, any number of teams,
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Speaker 4: at the end of the week, whoever has the fewest
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Speaker 4: points is gone, and their entire roster hits the open market,
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Speaker 4: so to speak, like relegation. Yes, and everybody else has
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Speaker 4: a budget to bid on those players.
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Speaker 2: So if the team that has this.
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Speaker 1: Revolution, yes, good cuttings heads off.
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Speaker 2: Yes every week.
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Speaker 4: So if it’s you know, week one, somebody who has
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Speaker 4: Xavier Worthy on their team has this, has the lowest
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Speaker 4: scoring output because the rest of their team does not
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Speaker 4: perform Xavier and whoever else on their team goes to
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Speaker 4: the free agent market and you get the chance to bid.
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Speaker 2: On them, and then just one team stands at the
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Speaker 2: end of the year. Very fine, we should be cold
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Speaker 2: blood is cool blooded? I could see you guys getting
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Speaker 2: involved in on I’ve been joining yet.
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Speaker 3: I’ve been joking around with some friends about doing like
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Speaker 3: an all sport fantasy league. So you have like but
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Speaker 3: I’m talking about like global sports. So you have like
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, but you also have like a great cricket player,
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Speaker 3: and you have some guy in f one to staying
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Speaker 3: up till two in the morning.
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Speaker 4: I consider myself pretty big sports fan. I would not
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Speaker 4: like my chances.
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Speaker 1: And Tot’s be honest, the three of us are married. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we would all like to remain. I think that in
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Speaker 1: all sports fantasy. Some of your funny stories, some of
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Speaker 1: your funny fantasy stories, including yeah and I love it
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Speaker 1: they were they were here tonight where the winners are
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Speaker 1: the gals, Like the gals are crushing it. Like there’s
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Speaker 1: one league here where there’s like fifteen people in the
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Speaker 1: league or whatever, and the gals have won like half
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Speaker 1: the titles. Give me some good stories marriages that have
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Speaker 1: been on the brink.
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Speaker 2: Or saved or I got a good one for you.
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Speaker 4: I’m my One of my other favorite things right now
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Speaker 4: is punishment leagues, where like, rather than rewarding, rewarding your team,
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Speaker 4: I got apparently I got a very stadistic way of
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Speaker 4: life right now. Right rather than like the money at
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Speaker 4: the end of the season you paid the beginning of
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Speaker 4: the year, going towards one person who wins, it’s whoever
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Speaker 4: loses who gets the ultimate shame. And I play in
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Speaker 4: a league with a bunch of guys, uh, and the
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Speaker 4: loser of the league has to start at a point
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Speaker 4: that is eight and a half miles from a favorite
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Speaker 4: bar of ours. And the guy starts and he’s got
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Speaker 4: an Apple Air tag on him, and we also we
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Speaker 4: have a phone open and we sit there and watch
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Speaker 4: him because if this guy tries to get into an
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Speaker 4: uber or borrow some kids bike or something, we will
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Speaker 4: not let him get on that bike or getting that uber.
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Speaker 2: So he has to run the entire time. And during
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Speaker 2: that time that he.
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Speaker 4: Is running, the rest of us ordering drinks for the night,
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Speaker 4: and he pays for the entire tablife. Yeah, we’re not
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Speaker 4: worried about that star. This is like, you know better,
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Speaker 4: that’s right, George carl.
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Speaker 2: Is right. It’s a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: We just love it.
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Speaker 2: It’s great.
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Speaker 4: But you know, and it’s you know certain that that
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Speaker 4: league does have a winners prize as well. It’s important
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Speaker 4: to recognize the winners. But it makes for some really
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Speaker 4: wild end of season weeks because you’ve got off time.
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Speaker 4: Just like you know, two or three teams that are
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Speaker 4: just like hanging on by a thread. And in that
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Speaker 4: league last year, the bottom two teams played in a
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Speaker 4: matchup that like, the loser of that league was bound
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Speaker 4: to run eight and a half miles. And you know,
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Speaker 4: we’ve done that back to back years and each of
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Speaker 4: the guys has run pretty well. And both of them
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Speaker 4: say they didn’t train at all, but they were each
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Speaker 4: at like an hour.
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Speaker 2: And twenty five minutes. Oh, which that’s your minds.
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Speaker 4: Is a great motivator, it really is, yes, hees or
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Speaker 4: keeping that that that credit card built very.
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Speaker 3: Low exactly worked.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, very funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, most the biggest money pot league you’ve heard about?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I’ve heard of guys.
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Speaker 4: I mean I’ve heard of leagues where it’s ten thousand
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Speaker 4: bucks to buy in, to buy in, just buy in, yeah,
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Speaker 4: and other prizes one hundred grand.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like people are high stakes leagues.
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Speaker 3: I uh, you know, imagine the stress, like I can’t well, I.
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Speaker 4: Think my only thought is every time I hear about
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Speaker 4: a ten thousand dollars buy in league, which those are
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Speaker 4: fairly common now these days, is that it’s actually people
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Speaker 4: that just have so much money that for them, like
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Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars is couch change. So for them, it’s
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Speaker 4: cool if they win, but they’re more motivated by like
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Speaker 4: the thrill of each week than they are the actual
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Speaker 4: pot of gold at the end of the rainbow there.
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Speaker 2: So those are you know, those are those are two
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Speaker 2: baller for someone like me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I’m trying to you know, you mentioned keeping a marriage,
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Speaker 4: you know, intact, I’m trying to keep the kids. You know,
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Speaker 4: I’m thinking about the education that’s going to cost a
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Speaker 4: whole bunch of money one day when they get to college.
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Speaker 2: So we don’t play in ten thousand dollars buy in leagues.
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Speaker 3: That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Why is daddy done in the closet? We again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the exciting news today is Field signed his extension
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Speaker 3: with ESPN right today.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I’m extremely grateful to stay at ESPN. I have
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Speaker 4: only collected a paycheck from two places in my life,
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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs and the ESPN. So extremely very grateful.
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Speaker 4: So I love what I do and tomorrow. A phrase
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Speaker 4: that I hear all the time from football coaches, it
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Speaker 4: beats working.
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Speaker 3: Yep, it does.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: My favorite thing about Field, we’ll close at this His
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Speaker 3: connection to the Chiefs is back in the day Whenever
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Speaker 3: I would reach out to him and ask if you
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Speaker 3: had time for an interview, he wouldn’t ask, you know,
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Speaker 3: the time in Central time or Mountain time or whatever.
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Speaker 3: He would say, four o’clock arrowhead time, early time. This
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Speaker 3: guy knows, baby.
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Speaker 4: I used to back back in two thousand and nine
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Speaker 4: when you play a lot of noon kickoffs. I think
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Speaker 4: was there like a single one noon kickoff game this year?
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Speaker 1: One?
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was one late in the year, the one Ulieble. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we appreciate you doing business.
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Speaker 1: Field h v ESPN and good luck with your one
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars fantasy league.
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Speaker 2: I wish that were me. Great to talk to Field Yates.
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Speaker 1: I remember him when he was working in the front
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Speaker 1: office or as Todd Hayley’s adjutant. But anyway, Uh, it’s
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Speaker 1: fascinating to see how complicated and how intricate fantasy football
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Speaker 1: has become.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it’s cool that Fields kind of embraced that.
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Speaker 3: But we were talking about this earlier. It’s also cool
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Speaker 3: that Field came from a football operations background, so he
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Speaker 3: as much as he loves fantasy football and is really
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Speaker 3: good at it, he also loves like real football and
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Speaker 3: understands like how real football can influence fantasy football. So, uh,
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Speaker 3: he’s great. He’s just about the nicest guy you meet.
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Speaker 3: And I think it’s so interesting when he was talking
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Speaker 3: about the brain trust he was around in those early
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Speaker 3: days where you have Ryan Poles right there with you,
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Speaker 3: Mike Borganzi, Bran Tillis and these are all future NFL gms,
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Speaker 3: and then of course Field is a future like megastar
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Speaker 3: on ESPN. I mean, how cool is that? Like they’re
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Speaker 3: all here in this building in two thousand and nine,
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Speaker 3: So it’s pretty cool. He’s an awesome guy and I
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Speaker 3: loved having him back in town. He hadn’t been in
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Speaker 3: Kansas City in a while. And I met him because
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Speaker 3: we had like a draft event. That’s why he was here,
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Speaker 3: like a fantasy football draft event before the podcast, And
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Speaker 3: I met him in his green room, which was one
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Speaker 3: of the sweets on the broadcast level, and he walked
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Speaker 3: in and he was just staring out at the field, like, man,
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Speaker 3: it’s good to be back here. So it fits pretty cool.
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Speaker 3: Whenever you’re watching Field, know that he has a soft
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Speaker 3: spot for Chiefs Kingdom in his heart.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, AI dangerous or an asset?
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Speaker 3: I think it’s dangerous. Personally, I do too. I watched
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Speaker 3: Terminator and the Matrix and all too many.
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Speaker 1: Times, too many things. Yeah, right, So here’s my point.
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Speaker 1: Fantasy football great, yep, most everybody plays it, but it
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Speaker 1: can be dangerous. Don’t let it convolute your opinion of
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Speaker 1: reality football. Patrick Mahomes is a perfect example. He won
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Speaker 1: seventeen games last year as a quarterback, two in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: and people thought he had a down year because he
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Speaker 1: didn’t win your fantasy league because he didn’t throw for
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Speaker 1: five thousand yards and fifty.
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Speaker 3: Touchdowns team game. So you got to.
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Speaker 1: Understand field though, brings some sense to that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: All right, let’s go back to reality football, and we’re
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Speaker 1: going to close it out here in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of minutes. The Chiefs have got to get down. There’s
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Speaker 1: some time, but honestly, after the Chicago game, this gets
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Speaker 1: really really They’ve got it pretty much buttoned down on
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Speaker 1: what they’re going to do or look outside to bring
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Speaker 1: in this year’s version of some I JP.
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Speaker 3: Ran or Juju Smith Schuster.
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Speaker 1: But there’s also things that come into play here, like
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Speaker 1: if you’re a vested veteran and you’re on the fifty
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Speaker 1: three man roster to open the season. You’re paid for
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Speaker 1: all eighteen weeks, and so we will see some vested
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Speaker 1: veterans that don’t make an opening snapshot of a roster
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Speaker 1: that might be put on not same for the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: but could be week two, week three, week four. But
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Speaker 1: that’s just part of the decisions that have to be made.
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Speaker 1: It’s not just oh, you’re trying to beat me out
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Speaker 1: for this spot. You’ve already mentioned that. The math here,
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Speaker 1: if we’re going to keep both of us, then somebody
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Speaker 1: else is going to get left off of linebackers? What
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Speaker 1: does that do for special teams? So the breadth, the
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Speaker 1: length and width and depth of decision making with this
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Speaker 1: is more than I think the fans realize.
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Speaker 3: How long do you have to play to be vested?
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Speaker 1: I think it’s four years?
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Speaker 3: Four years, okay. And that’s the thing too. You were
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Speaker 3: mentioning earlier about how you can keep certain guys in
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Speaker 3: the practice squad that are veterans and just bring them up.
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Speaker 3: So Dion Bush is out for the year, but he’s
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Speaker 3: one of the val victorians of that where it’s confusing
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Speaker 3: when the cuts come out right because you see all
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Speaker 3: these guys that get cut, and like last year, I
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Speaker 3: believe Deon Bush was cut, but he doesn’t go anywhere.
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Speaker 3: It’s like, just stick around. And we saw him four
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Speaker 3: times down the stretch last year. Kind of a core
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Speaker 3: contributor on special teams even though he didn’t make the team.
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Speaker 3: That’s why so I keep all the Week one rosters
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Speaker 3: from every single year as like reference because it’s fun
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Speaker 3: to look back at. I mean, for example, the Chiefs
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Speaker 3: have fielded ten defensive backs in each of the last
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Speaker 3: like five years, so when you’re doing roster math, it’s like,
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Speaker 3: all right, they’re probably going to keep ten. Those numbers fluctuate.
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Speaker 3: But the reason I bring this up is I don’t
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Speaker 3: normally look at the initial fifty three man roster. I
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Speaker 3: look at the Week one roster because of everything you’re
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Speaker 3: talking about. We talked a few weeks ago about how
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Speaker 3: thirty percent of the Chiefs offense last year came from
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Speaker 3: players that were not on the team in training camp.
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Speaker 3: One of them was DeAndre Hopkins. Okay, you trade for him,
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Speaker 3: But the other three are the ones that you mentioned,
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Speaker 3: guys like Kareem or Juju samajp Ryan, players that didn’t
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Speaker 3: make this team initially but ended up being major contributors.
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Speaker 3: Because we picked them up soon after cuts happened, so
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Speaker 3: something to watch, you know. The initial fifty three man
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Speaker 3: is fun to follow, but it’s really the days and
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Speaker 3: hours right after the fact that you really figure out
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Speaker 3: who’s going to be on this team.
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Speaker 1: And the fifty three man roster from week one could
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Speaker 1: change as soon as week two when you play the Eagles,
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Speaker 1: and really, in reality now with the rules that exist,
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Speaker 1: it’s a sixty nine man group to get to your
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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster for any given Sunday.
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Speaker 3: And that’s a positive from COVID. If there’s any positives,
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Speaker 3: it’s that the practice squad totally changed. It used to
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Speaker 3: be just like what six or seven players, and it
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Speaker 3: was all young guys. Had to be young guys. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and now the fact that it’s almost a taxi squad
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Speaker 3: is a major improvement, I think.
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Speaker 1: So there you have it. Field Yates for your fantasy advice,
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Speaker 1: Matt for your reality advice, But for all of us,
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Speaker 1: especially for Brett Veach and his staff and head coach
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and his staff. The next several hours, decisions, decisions,



