Reality Sets In | Defending The Kingdom 8/17

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Speaker 1: Thank you vantage on the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: in the game, they can play oh cha, don’t do it?

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Speaker 1: What d touchdown? Kansas City? The Chiefs all right in

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Speaker 1: the thick of it, baby. Welcome once again, Chiefs Kingdom

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Speaker 1: to another edition of Defending the Kingdom and of course

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Speaker 1: brought to you by the awesome folks at three sixty

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Speaker 1: Vodka and three sixty Vodka Kansas City’s hometown Vodka, the

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Speaker 1: official vodka of the Kansas City Chiefs, which hold us

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Speaker 1: with you voice the Chiefs along with Chiefs reporter Matt McMullen.

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Speaker 1: This episode is entitled Reality sets In as we are

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Speaker 1: just not far away from going to the Phoenix area

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Speaker 1: to take on the Arizona Cardinals. But where the National

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Speaker 1: Football League becomes like a reality show is from now

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Speaker 1: until those final cuts. And honestly, you can go to

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Speaker 1: your favorite reality show, whether that was the old Survivor shows,

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Speaker 1: or The Bachelorette or The Bachelor or whatever. That’s why

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Speaker 1: the Nashville Football League becomes during this time. And I

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Speaker 1: don’t mean to be flippant about it. It’s just that

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Speaker 1: reality sets in. It started earlier this week with the

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Speaker 1: five cuts that were made there will be five next Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: But here we are, and on this episode of Defending

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom, we are going to examine maybe the hot

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Speaker 1: spots in the reality show. It’s really survived in advance, right,

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Speaker 1: That’s what it is. And we keep talking about how

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Speaker 1: these preseason games matter, and they matter for a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons, but for these guys on the roster bubble

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Speaker 1: trying to make this team and trying to live out

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Speaker 1: their NFL dream, every game matters because against San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: these guys didn’t know if they’d have another chance. This

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Speaker 1: was their one shot to make a team. And the

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Speaker 1: guys that survived, it’s now onto Arizona, and can you

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Speaker 1: survive and make this team and move forward? And that’s

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Speaker 1: really the question here because there will be five more

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Speaker 1: cuts after the Arizona game, and then a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of cuts on August thirty first. So you’ve had eighteen

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Speaker 1: days of camp, now if you’re a rookie or a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: fifteen days if you’re just a normal player, to put

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Speaker 1: things on tape, to put things on tape out there

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Speaker 1: at practice, to put things on tape in these games.

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Speaker 1: And now moving forward here evaluations come up and you

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Speaker 1: figure out who’s going to make this team. That should

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. We’ll talk all about it,

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Speaker 1: but this is where things get really interesting. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you joining us Son Defending the Kingdom. We’re

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Speaker 1: somewhere north of thirty thousand or between thirty and thirty

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Speaker 1: five thousand of you that have joined us in our

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Speaker 1: first two episodes, and we welcome you to this episode.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the hotspots, I did say, hey,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you’re doing. We had the Captain

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Speaker 1: of the Irish Brigade, the Colonel of the Irish Brigade.

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Speaker 1: He goes biking. Man, these are his biking trips. But

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Speaker 1: you’ve had some other folks way in what do they do?

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Speaker 1: What do you do doing defending the Kingdom? While you’re

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Speaker 1: listening watching order, We’ll watch him. Yeah, this was This

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Speaker 1: was fun. So Seth. He’s a father who was making

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Speaker 1: bean bags for his daughter’s birthday party. That’s fun. We

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Speaker 1: had a listener that listened to Will on a run

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Speaker 1: for the first time, Bruce while driving his eighteen wheeler.

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Speaker 1: That’s pretty cool. Buzz was on his lunch break, gave

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Speaker 1: us a listen. Then also Josh driving his Peterbils gave

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Speaker 1: us a listen, yeah, telling us what you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing when you’re listening. It’s it’s interesting because you know,

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Speaker 1: for you and I, we just do this. We’re just talking.

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Speaker 1: We don’t know what people are doing when they’re listening

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Speaker 1: to this, and it’s kind of cool. The people all

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Speaker 1: be along for the ride with them. One of these times,

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Speaker 1: we’re going to take the DTK on the road, maybe

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Speaker 1: in the cab of a Peter built truck. All Right,

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Speaker 1: the horn is sounding though, because the reality is set

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Speaker 1: in for roster cuts and let’s go through four separate

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Speaker 1: areas as the Chiefs get ready for preseason game number

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Speaker 1: two against the Cardinals. And the first area to me

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Speaker 1: has been the real story of this training camp, and

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Speaker 1: then the story that that has created. One is the

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Speaker 1: offensive line and what we’ve seen there with three rookie

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Speaker 1: then Joe Tuney and Orlando Brown Junior, let’s start with them.

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Speaker 1: Good performance against the San Francisco forty nine ers. I

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Speaker 1: know Armstead didn’t play D forty, just save all your tweets.

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Speaker 1: but that group, let’s start with them. But it opens

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Speaker 1: so we’ve been waiting for months to see that, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, ever since Orlando Brown Junior was acquired, ever

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Speaker 1: It was about I want to see these guys in

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Speaker 1: Chief’s uniforms working together cohesively as an offensive line. That

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Speaker 1: We finally saw all five of those guys working in

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Speaker 1: And they did. It looked like the communication was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Throughout their two series that those guys had together, they

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Speaker 1: but particularly for the first time, these guys were to

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Speaker 1: It’ll be even more of a test, I think this

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Speaker 1: Think of a guy like Isaiah Simmons from the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Kingdom oh Latha North High School. He is a athletic freak,

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Speaker 1: right son, He’s gonna be He’s gonna be a challenge

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Speaker 1: along with others in this second preseason game. But for

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Speaker 1: has set in. Reality has set in for what I’m

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Speaker 1: calling the replaced replacements, and that are guys that have

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Speaker 1: Three of them have started Super Bowls, and right now

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Speaker 1: I don’t think everybody can make this team. So we’re

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Speaker 1: talking about guys like Nick Alla Gretti, Andrew Wiley, Andrew

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Speaker 1: there’s the three injured guys. When you look at Kyle Long,

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Speaker 1: You’re not going to keep twelve offensive linemen ten at

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Speaker 1: Probably gonna keep nine, and that to me becomes a

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Speaker 1: first point of interest, the replaced replacements. So Dad at

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Speaker 1: and he said, this is a good problem to have.

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Speaker 1: And when you have guys that you know their name,

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Speaker 1: been competitive in this league when they maybe cut, that’s

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Speaker 1: a good problem to have because it means you have

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Speaker 1: that was really the idea behind the entire offensive line rebuilt. Right.

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Speaker 1: It wasn’t just the starting five, which we’re really excited about,

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Speaker 1: but it was also the depth that we’re building behind

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Speaker 1: those guys. And we’re seeing throughout practice in the first

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Speaker 1: preseason game a lot of competition among the second and

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Speaker 1: And we saw that against San Francisco. So blythe he

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Speaker 1: watch who’s the second team O line, who sticks around

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Speaker 1: multiple positions. And then also is a chance to put

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Speaker 1: So watch the guys against Arizona that are playing multiple positions,

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Speaker 1: was just your point. Durant would be at guard, Wiley’s

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Speaker 1: Wiley would be at guard. But it’s something to pay

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Speaker 1: attention to. And just imagine here. This sounds kind of

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Speaker 1: in big reds out in front, going you you you right.

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Speaker 1: That’s kind of the feeling that you get here. It’s

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Speaker 1: things like it in our world specifically where reality does

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Speaker 1: sit in secondary of reality, wide receiver and tight end.

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Speaker 1: Why do we combine that in this depend Defending the

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Speaker 1: four main wide receivers, right Tyreek Hill, DeMarcus Robinson, Byron Pringle,

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Speaker 1: and McCole Hardy. After that, who is the fifth or

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Speaker 1: the sixth? Do you keep five and keep four tight ends?

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Speaker 1: Because Jody Fortson, now considered a tight end, is right

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Speaker 1: there with Blakeville, Noah Gray, and the best tight end

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Speaker 1: ever play in Travis Kelsey. It’s tempting to keep all

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Speaker 1: four tight ends and six wide receivers. It gets back

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Speaker 1: to the point about having good problems, and this is

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Speaker 1: a good problem. When you have a lot of playmakers,

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Speaker 1: the reality of it. When you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: good players, you can’t keep everybody. So just for some reference.

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Speaker 1: Let’s see what the Chiefs did the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So last year they kept six wide receivers and four

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Speaker 1: tight ends, so you can do it. But what that

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Speaker 1: But when he’s been out there, he makes plays. He’s good.

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Speaker 1: He’s good in the Super Bowl, the Bowl, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Mashad Fenton It’s also interesting though, when you’re looking at

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Speaker 1: Mike Hues and DeAndre Baker though, because these are two

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Speaker 1: Ironic enough, both of those guys were the number thirty

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Speaker 1: two AS eighteen, Baker in two AS nineteen. And what’s

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Speaker 1: Brett Veach so good at a general manager for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It’s finding guys that were highly touted not too long ago,

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Speaker 1: and they just needed a change of scenery and a

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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs are hoping for with Baker and Hughes.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Hughes. He’s looked good in practice so far.

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Speaker 1: I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen from him today.

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Speaker 1: We saw him punch a ball out like Peanut Tilman.

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Speaker 1: That’s pretty impressive. But then DeAndre Baker, he was so

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Speaker 1: good in week seventeen before getting hurt in that awful

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Speaker 1: looked pretty good. I mean he was targeted six times,

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Speaker 1: pass breakups. That’s all you can do is put that

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Speaker 1: kind of work on tape. Is if guys are going

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Speaker 1: out in practice and of course in the pre season games.

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Speaker 1: But the good news is the Chiefs have talent vying

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Speaker 1: will breed growth. Bill Pete Keys enters this discussion a

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Speaker 1: also a character Marlin character. But there’s one guy I

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Speaker 1: want to mention to me, he’s kind of the Jody

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Speaker 1: Forts and for me personally in this camp because he’s

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Speaker 1: to me he’s gone elevated above. Just a guy that

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Speaker 1: could have a future either here or someplace Else’s DiCaprio Bootle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looks like a Rashad Fenton to me. Now, he

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Speaker 1: was a captain in Nebraska, played a lot, but came

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Speaker 1: in as an undrafted free agent. What do we got here?

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Speaker 1: Saw him the summer in the OTAs. He’s really had

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Speaker 1: a good camp and he was good the other night

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Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. He was He recovered a fumble. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: played a lot and he’s around the ball. He can

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Speaker 1: cabs plays the slot, which is that’s tough to do man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that’s all you can ask for, you know. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: he looked good. I mean, first of all, best name

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Speaker 1: on the team right has to be DiCaprio Bootle. It’s

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Speaker 1: an incredible name and you have to back it up

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Speaker 1: with some good play. And he looked really good against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. It’s tough with those guys, I mean a UDFA.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he played at a big school in Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: but you’re still a UDFA trying to make it in

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Speaker 1: when it’s real football all of a sudden, will they

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Speaker 1: look the part? And he did. That’s all you can

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Speaker 1: ask for a guy like that look the part. Now,

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Speaker 1: it’s about stacking and continuing to play well after you’ve

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Speaker 1: done it once and will have that chance against Arizona.

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Speaker 1: But a DiCaprio Bootle a name to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on here. You’re not just trying to find guys that

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Speaker 1: will be fixes right away, You’re trying to develop guys

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Speaker 1: over time. And DiCaprio Bootle certainly a names no moving

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Speaker 1: forward and bopee Keys based on what he’s done on

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Speaker 1: special teams, they’re trying to fit him in and maybe

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Speaker 1: that gunner role as well as being a corner on

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Speaker 1: this defense. So keep an eye on bow Peat as well.

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Speaker 1: He’s probably the guy that no preseason last year probably

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Speaker 1: hurt the most because he just didn’t have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to play much defensively last season, played in Week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but finally getting a preseason to show what he can

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Speaker 1: do is also good for bo Pete. Yeah, you’re like me,

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Speaker 1: You just want to say DiCaprio boodle A lot DiCaprio boodle?

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Speaker 1: What was the comedian Leo DiCaprio boodle? Hey, thanks for

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