Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Senior Team Reporter Matt McMullen break down the Kansas City Chiefs’ upcoming matchup with the Denver Broncos, plus Kingsley Suamataia joins the show! Ari Wolfe also stops by to talk through some storylines from around the AFC West and the NFL as a whole.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I’ve been asked all actually the last couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks about this Chief’s Denver game coming up, and is
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Speaker 1: it a must win? Now, it’s not a must win.
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Speaker 1: There’s a lot of season left, but it is a
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Speaker 1: critical time, and yes, it’s a critical game. This edition
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Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom is brought to you, as always
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Speaker 1: by your good friends at Ticketmaster. They become your really
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Speaker 1: good friends as you see these awesome games coming up
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Speaker 1: here from now until the end of the regular season
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Speaker 1: to get ready for the playoffs. The Chiefs will have Raschi,
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Speaker 1: Rice and the Wildcat. He’s going to run the Wildcat
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Speaker 1: power in near side and he will trot into the
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Speaker 1: end zone touchdown Chansas City. Howeveryone, I’m Machilta’s Voice of
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen, and
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Speaker 1: this theme of this podcast on Defending the Kingdom Chiefs
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Speaker 1: and Broncos. Broncos two game lead over the Chiefs, who
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Speaker 1: we all know of won nine straight AFC West titles,
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Speaker 1: second in NFL history. Not a must win, but a
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Speaker 1: critical time and a critical game.
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Speaker 2: Yet it feels important because right now that she’s still
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Speaker 2: controlled her own destiny in the AFC West. You play
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Speaker 2: the Broncos two times, you have an opportunity to make
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Speaker 2: up that ground on them and have the tiebreaker over them.
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Speaker 2: But you got to win these games. And Denver’s playing
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Speaker 2: good football this year. We’ll talk all about their team.
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Speaker 2: Kind of a weird season for them, but they’re eight
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Speaker 2: and two. They’re playing good football, and we have to
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Speaker 2: have our best on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting study when you look at the Denver
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Speaker 1: Broncos closely and what they’ve done to give them credit
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Speaker 1: to have that eight and two record, and they’ve done
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Speaker 1: it very similarly to the way the Chiefs did it
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, right, the eleven to one possession
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Speaker 1: wins for the Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got criticized for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can’t do that. You can’t. Broncos are doing it.
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Speaker 1: Hey it’s gutsy, Yeah, gutsy, But hey, give them credit.
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Speaker 1: You win these close games and do it in a
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Speaker 1: variety of ways. They block field goals too to win games.
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Speaker 1: But give them credit. They’re eight and two and the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are five and four. Before we dive into this
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Speaker 1: game and the critical nature of it, let’s go around
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 2: Let’s do it I’ve got four for you and I’ve
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Speaker 2: got a couple two hopefully a big day for where
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Speaker 2: she rice coming up. We have a listener in Cape Town,
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Speaker 2: South Africa. I want to go to Cape Town?
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Speaker 1: Cool too, Yeah, yeah, I gady to do a show there.
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Speaker 3: It would be I think we should just got to avoid.
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Speaker 2: The first time we’ve had Cape Town, I think, I
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Speaker 2: think so, yeah, this is a cool one.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to go ahead.
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Speaker 1: No, my daughter lived in Botswana for two and a
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Speaker 1: half years with her husband and they would go to
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Speaker 1: South Africa and I’m pretty sure they went down to
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it’s like a beautiful place. Just
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Speaker 2: got to avoid the sharks. Shout out to Janie O’Donnell
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Speaker 2: from Omaha.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: Jane is ninety three years young and a lifelong Chefs fan.
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Speaker 2: Her son Ralph, who’s also a huge Chiefs fan, recently
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Speaker 2: became the Bishop of Jefferson City. So shout out to
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Speaker 2: you both. Yeah pretty cool.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but shout out to you Janey also that you’re
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Speaker 2: stuck with the Chiefs this long and it’s paying off
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Speaker 2: here over the last ten years.
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Speaker 1: Omaha Kingdom hot Bed.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Philip, so Ellie and I have this
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Speaker 2: new routine where we get colachi’s every Saturday morning.
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Speaker 3: You ever had a kolachi before?
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Speaker 1: Heck? Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Colachis are amazing. If you’ve never had one, it’ll change
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Speaker 2: your life.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you’re really going to have a colachi, uh huh,
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Speaker 1: you need to go to either Cuba, Cuba, Kansas. Okay, Wilson, Kansas,
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Speaker 1: or Wilburn, Nebraska. Okay, those are the Czech capitals of
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Speaker 3: And they make a mean kolachi.
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Speaker 1: Wait till you have to just go to Wilburn, Nebraska
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Speaker 1: and have a colachi, and all other colachis will not
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Well it’s good to know all.
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Speaker 1: Of you check folks of the Bohemian heritage. Well, you
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Speaker 1: can get Matt, just send him some of your best
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Speaker 1: colachis from Wilbur, Nebraska. I’m in the market for it. Cuba, Kansas.
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Speaker 2: So we started going and getting coilachis every Saturday morning,
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Speaker 2: and then we get coffee after the fact. And we
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Speaker 2: did it the three weeks that the Chiefs won three
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Speaker 2: Bill’s games.
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Speaker 3: That’s on me.
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Speaker 2: That is on and I’ll own that one. We were
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Speaker 1: From Wilson, Kansas, Cuba, Kansas, or Wilburn, Obraska, we may
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Speaker 3: Okay, I think I have to do it. Then, well,
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Speaker 3: I’ll bring this back around.
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Speaker 2: We ran into Phillip while he was also getting some
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Speaker 2: Klachi’s on Saturday morning and he said, Hi, So shout
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Speaker 2: out to you, Philip.
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Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed your breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Do you have Chuck heritage?
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Speaker 2: I don’t think so. I don’t think so. I think
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Speaker 2: this is kind of more of a melting pot situation.
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Speaker 2: But regardless, you’re delicious.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: Ellie and I also went to the Case Current playoff
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Speaker 2: their two best goal scorers. Awesome experience, though atmosphere was
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Speaker 2: super cool, it was very cold, but we hung in there.
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Speaker 2: Two DTK defenders came up and said hi. Unfortunately, I
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Speaker 2: to write their names down. Unfortunately, you know who you are.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying hi. Bummer of a game, but
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Speaker 2: awesome experience and the current will be back. That team
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Speaker 2: is awesome. Have you been out there yet to a
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Speaker 2: current game?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 1: And I still want to do. It’s on the bucket list. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I’d love to take my granddaughters out there and drive
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Speaker 1: by that stadium all the time and thinking that is
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Speaker 1: a cool looking stadium.
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Speaker 2: It’s super cool, atmosphere is great, and that team’s going
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Speaker 2: to win it all here soon enough.
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Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: One quick announcement, so Fan of the Year voting is
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Speaker 2: now going on. Congratulations to doctor Yvette Richards. She is
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs Fan of the Year. Doctor Richards is incredible.
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Speaker 2: I had a chance to meet her a few weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: Gigantic Chiefs fan, but also has done like so much
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Speaker 2: in our community just to help others, largely through her
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Speaker 2: role as a director of Community Connection and Mission at
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Speaker 2: the Saint James United Methodist Church. So involved in helping others,
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Speaker 2: kind of dedicated her life to it and loves the
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Speaker 2: you can vote for doctor Richards to be the NFL
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Speaker 2: Fan of the Year by visiting the link and the
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Speaker 2: bio section of this podcast. Go let’s go support our
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Speaker 2: for you today.
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Speaker 1: I’ve got a couple again. We know about the three
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Speaker 1: hundred meter walk where there’s somebody internationally waiting for me
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Speaker 1: if I walked to the stadium on game day.
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Speaker 3: He didn’t have any didn’t didn’t.
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Speaker 1: But the Chiefs Kingdom Show has turned into international. They
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Speaker 1: go to a game, they come here for a pilgrimage,
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Speaker 1: It’s become a deal.
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Speaker 3: So that’s really cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, one, this is in the States, but Susie Spinoza
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Speaker 3: England, Okay, that’s cool.
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Speaker 1: I don’t know if they’re man You or man City
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Speaker 1: stayed away from that. Then Rick and Carol Reichert from Seabeck, Washington,
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Speaker 1: less than fourteen Germans came. I’m not gonna read them all.
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Speaker 1: I’ve got their names. But these German fans keep coming
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Speaker 1: to games and to make the they just want everything,
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Speaker 1: and it’s been awesome to see. The Other one I
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Speaker 1: would say is to Officer Braun of the Kansas Highway Patrol. Yes,
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Speaker 1: a wonderful young lady, really courageous lady. This is you
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Speaker 1: and I have that it should be The Perils of
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Speaker 3: It could be its own segment.
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Speaker 1: So during by week, I want to help my dad
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Speaker 1: One day, let’s go and a terrific game that I
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Speaker 1: got to see. That’s not the story. The story is
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Speaker 1: it usually takes four hours. This took eight over eight hours.
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Speaker 1: There was a terrible acts and I seventy that’s once.
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Speaker 1: But then a tire blows up. My tire blows out
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Speaker 2: And how fast were you going fast enough? That’s scary,
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Speaker 1: But yep, thankful Lord. But this guardian angel comes up
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Speaker 1: That’s all I know. But I did talk to her
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Speaker 1: officials ever in the state of Kansas, and he too,
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Speaker 1: in his career, was Kansas Highway patrolman. But she was
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Speaker 1: it’s halfway terrifying because eighteen wheelers are going by you
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Speaker 1: State Patrol. I have met many of you sometimes that way,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the highest pressure rated on Patrick since
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Speaker 1: the field is unsound when the play goes under your armpit.
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Speaker 1: We’ve seen that happen, or you get influenced to stop.
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Speaker 1: So who would you have on defending the Kingdom considering
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Speaker 1: what we’ve just talked about in the last eight paragraphs
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Speaker 1: of defending the Kingdom? Maybe one of the main protectors.
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Speaker 1: So why not talk to Kingsley suit Matya And what
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Speaker 1: a treat we’ve got right now. One of the emerging
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the entire National Football League, Kingsley suit
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Speaker 1: Matia is with us on this episode getting ready for
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Speaker 1: the Broncos. It’s just been so exciting though, to see
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Speaker 1: your assent. What would you say has happened to make
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Speaker 1: this climber?
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Speaker 4: Probably just a lot of trusting God, trusting the coaches,
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Speaker 4: trusting them, trusting me, and yeah, just going out there
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Speaker 4: and doing my thing. So yeah, definitely shout out to
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Speaker 4: all the coaches, especially the guys I played with all
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Speaker 4: four of them, So trusting me that I can be there.
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Speaker 4: So yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I think your first start ever at guard in
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Speaker 2: the NFL was against the Broncos right last year in
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Speaker 2: Week eighteen. Where do you think you’ve grown the most
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Speaker 2: between that game and now?
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Speaker 4: I would definitely say the mental aspect of it all, Like
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Speaker 4: moving from tagle to guard tackle, you got the whole space.
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Speaker 4: But being in guard is like that phone booth. But
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Speaker 4: I fell in love with it. So that’s probably the
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Speaker 4: biggest thing, is just the mental part.
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Speaker 1: The physical part in the fact of working shoulder to
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Speaker 1: shoulder with Creed. Now you’ve had some different tackles. We’re
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Speaker 1: getting Josh back, but we’ve had different tackles since then.
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Speaker 1: But twists and stunts and games. How big is it
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Speaker 1: to work with those guys on you’re right and left?
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Speaker 4: Oh, it’s definitely important. It’s definitely different being in the
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Speaker 4: middle of it all, having to work with Creed and
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Speaker 4: then having to work with my tagle. But I remember
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Speaker 4: my first twist I ever saw. It was all happened
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Speaker 4: so fast. I was like, I think I have guy.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it’s definitely a big learning Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So this Bronco squad, is this the first team that
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Speaker 2: you face twice now as a guard.
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Speaker 3: It must have been right.
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Speaker 2: And I remember you saying after the game that Zach
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Speaker 2: Allen was like, hey man, you’re pretty good at this.
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Speaker 3: Have you thought about that at all?
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Speaker 2: Like you’re gonna face them here again and you have
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Speaker 2: a chance to go up against the team for the
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Speaker 2: second time now at guard.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely. He’s definitely one heck of a player
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Speaker 4: and you see what he does on the field, and
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Speaker 4: but yeah, it definitely be a good It would be
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Speaker 4: a good matchup. So I’m excited to go against him
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Speaker 4: the game.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Kingsley, this Bronco front is elite. I mean
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Speaker 1: we know that. What do you think makes them so?
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Speaker 1: And then the best countermeasures against them?
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Speaker 4: M I think all of them just have a great motor,
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Speaker 4: from their DS to their D tackles in the middle,
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Speaker 4: just the whole defense. They played with a high motor.
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Speaker 4: But I’m definitely excited this week what we got throwing
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Speaker 4: at them, starting to run game all strong and then
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Speaker 4: just opening the pockets with whatever we got with the throws.
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Speaker 2: You think that Buye fell at a good time where
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Speaker 2: you guys can kind of get healthy recharge and kind
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Speaker 2: of attack the second half of the season.
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Speaker 4: No, yeah, most definitely. It was definitely a good time
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Speaker 4: to have some time off. But man, we’re ready to roll.
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Speaker 4: Man like we never astray, Like we’re all stuck together.
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Speaker 4: We’re ready to attack this rest of the half of
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Speaker 4: the season.
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Speaker 1: What’s been so fun Kingsley is to watch you, whether
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Speaker 1: it’s power and you’re pulling guard to guard, it just
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Speaker 1: real fun. Or you’re the place side guard. What happens
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Speaker 1: when you get the play call and you’re going, oh,
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Speaker 1: it’s that play that you like.
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Speaker 4: It’s definitely exciting. I don’t know I get sided any play,
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Speaker 4: but probably like when you call it pulling play and
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Speaker 4: I’m pulling, like I’m just excited to run a full
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Speaker 4: speeding to hit somebody.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, you’re pretty good at that.
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Speaker 2: Is there someone on the offensive line that you’ve kind
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Speaker 2: of leaned on over the last year, whether it be
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Speaker 2: Tray or Creed or whoever, and kind of has helped
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Speaker 2: you develop into an interior alignment?
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Speaker 4: Most definitely Tray and Creed. It’s it’s even across the
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Speaker 4: board and even JT when I was at tackle. So
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Speaker 4: they all have helped me be the player that I
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Speaker 4: am today and I thank them for it. So yeah.
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Speaker 1: One cool thing too is the screen game, and the
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Speaker 1: screen game is a art form. How much have you
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Speaker 1: learned about being an effective screen player as a.
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Speaker 4: Guard flat and getting vertical? That’s that’s been the main thing,
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Speaker 4: especially when you know he’s like give vertical, down down,
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Speaker 4: your eyes get all over the place. When you see guys,
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Speaker 4: little guys running down, you want to chase him on
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Speaker 4: an angle. Just get vertical. And the guys behind us
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Speaker 4: don’t do the rice.
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Speaker 2: So the NFL and even college football acumen in your
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Speaker 2: family is crazy, Like your family tree is nuts with
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Speaker 2: like NFL players, Is there anyone that has reached out
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Speaker 2: to you or that you kind of keep in close
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Speaker 2: contact with in terms of your growth as a player?
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Speaker 3: Right now?
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Speaker 4: All of them? Uh, just yesterday text hit all of us.
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Speaker 4: Know Jacob Robinson with my boys I played with a
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Speaker 4: high school. He’s at the Niners. So he yeah, he
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Speaker 4: checked all of us and see how we’re all doing.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely all of them. They all hit up
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Speaker 4: all I text him. He takes bag, So yeah, it’s good.
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Speaker 3: It’s super cool. When you and Penay got the exchange jerseys.
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Speaker 4: That was also definitely Yeah, I needed that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that being said, I like, if it’s a
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Speaker 1: family reunion. You guys got video up and you know
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Speaker 1: you’re I can’t imagine what your family reunions would be like,
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Speaker 1: exchanging stories.
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Speaker 4: A lot of stories about a lot of foods. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: there’s gonna be a lot of food. There’s a favorite
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Speaker 4: food at the family reunion you’re going to. I hope
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Speaker 4: this is there because I’m gonna devour it. M I’ll
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Speaker 4: probably just say pig.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do this thing.
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Speaker 4: You cook it underground, put some rocks over in some
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Speaker 4: dirty and let it cook all day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, by anything.
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Speaker 1: Anything, Well, let’s hope it’s cooking all day, because it’s
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Speaker 1: been cooking all season. Kingsley, am I to you thanks
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Speaker 1: to Kingsley and Man to see his growth at Left
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Speaker 1: Guard is huge, no pun intended, sounds like Chiefs Kingdom Show,
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Speaker 1: but he really has come on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I’m excited for him. We knew he had great potential,
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Speaker 2: just a matter of going out there and playing and
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Speaker 2: doing it and getting that experience. I mean, he’s still
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Speaker 2: super young. He was drafted at twenty one years old.
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Speaker 2: His whole career is still ahead of him, and all
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Speaker 2: the talent in the world and I think it’s kind
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Speaker 2: of cool that his first start at guard ever was
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Speaker 2: against the Broncos last year. And he was talking earlier
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Speaker 2: this year about how Zach Allen made a point of
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Speaker 2: going up to him and saying, hey man, look you’re
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Speaker 2: pretty good, like you have a future in this Well,
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Speaker 2: now we’re going to Denver for a very important game.
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Speaker 2: Kingsley has some more starts under his belt at guard,
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Speaker 2: and across the way is Zach Allen got to have
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Speaker 2: another good game against that guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still want to go to one of
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Speaker 1: those family reunions and yeah, have you know because my
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Speaker 1: mouth salivating and then I just talked football with these guys.
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Speaker 1: But let’s get into the Stanver offense and let’s just
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Speaker 1: start where it’s I think it’s most impactful, and that’s
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Bulls has really improved it left tackle,
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Speaker 1: but the Quinn Minors is leading this offensive line. He’s
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Speaker 1: a stud at right guard. We’ve featured him before when
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Speaker 1: he came out of Wisconsin Whitewater, but he’s just he’s
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Speaker 1: grown leaps and bounds. I mean, this is a guy
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Speaker 1: that’s in the Creed Humphrey Trace Smith area offensive line.
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Speaker 1: The pressure rate is excellent. They have allowed the second
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Speaker 1: few of sacks in the National Football League. They’ve only
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Speaker 1: allowed ten when you look at what they’ve allowed. But
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Speaker 1: here’s another thing. They’re number two in the NFL and
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Speaker 1: clock killing drives. So if the game is there, this
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Speaker 1: is where the bigger reason they’re eight and two and
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Speaker 1: they’re winning one possession games. When it’s the games there critical,
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Speaker 1: the offensive line just shuts it down. And so that’s
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Speaker 1: what this group has done. Otherwise, when you look at
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Speaker 1: this team offensively, you’re going wow. I mean, they’re the
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Speaker 1: third team in NFL history to win seven games of
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Speaker 1: their eight where they did not score first in a game.
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Speaker 1: And I’m gonna give him credit. Don’t take this as
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Speaker 1: a criticism. It’s just a fact. And the fact that
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Speaker 1: he has six career wins where his pass rated passer
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Speaker 1: rating is below seventy. He had a fifty four point
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Speaker 1: eight passer rating and they won against the Raiders that game.
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Speaker 1: The ten to seven game against the Raiders the Thursday
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Speaker 1: night before this one, was they both had I believe,
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Speaker 1: more penalties and first downs that hadn’t happened since the
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Speaker 1: seventy six expansion battle between the Seahawks and the Buccaneers.
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Speaker 1: And yet offensively they’re efficient and this offensive line is
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Speaker 1: good enough and really good at times to say game over.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to break down here with these guys,
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Speaker 2: like you said, a really interesting offensive study. So, talking
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Speaker 2: about Nicks specifically, it’s been up and down. Right, he
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Speaker 2: has eighteen touchdown passes. That’s good, but he’s also completing
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Speaker 2: just sixty percent of his passes. That’s twenty seventh in
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Speaker 2: the NFL among qualified passers. He’s also averaging just six
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Speaker 2: yards per attempt. That’s twenty ninth in the NFL. So
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Speaker 2: it’s a lot of like short stuff right, short quick passes,
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Speaker 2: role outs, boots, stuff like that. He’s attempted forty seven
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Speaker 2: throws of twenty or more yards like air yards this year.
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Speaker 2: That’s actually tied with Matthew Stafford for the most in
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Speaker 2: the NFL, but he’s only completing thirty two percent of those.
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Speaker 2: A’s the lowest completion percentage among quarterbacks with at least
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Speaker 2: forty deep attempts. Now, their running game is really interesting.
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Speaker 2: It gets back to their offensive line, like you were saying,
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Speaker 2: their role offense is built around their running game. They’re
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Speaker 2: averaging one hundred and twenty nine rushing yards per game
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Speaker 2: between JK. Dobbins and RJ. Harvey. Harvey is a kind
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Speaker 2: of an exciting player. He’s interesting to watch. Dobbins is
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Speaker 2: having a great year, though. He’s fifth in the NFL
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Speaker 2: in rushing yards with nearly eight hundred, averaging over five
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Speaker 2: yards per carry. Doesn’t have a bunch of huge games
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Speaker 2: by any means, but he’s topped at least sixty rushing
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Speaker 2: yards and nine of his ten games. And what that
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Speaker 2: does opens up their play action passing game, and Knicks
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Speaker 2: has been using a lot of play action this year.
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Speaker 2: Twenty eight percent of his dropbacks have used play action.
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Speaker 2: They’re just inconsistent overall. I mean they’ve scored at least
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Speaker 2: twenty eight points four times, but also twenty or fewer
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Speaker 2: points five times, and like a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Fourth quarter heroics.
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Speaker 2: So they have the best point differential in the fourth
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Speaker 2: quarter of any team in the NFL at plus sixty.
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Speaker 2: They were losing in the fourth quarter against the Eagles,
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Speaker 2: the Jets, the Giants, and the Texans and maybe some
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Speaker 2: more games. That was just a quick look for me,
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Speaker 2: and they won all those games, so you give them credit.
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Speaker 2: Knicks has made plays late in these games when he
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Speaker 2: really needs to. But this offense has been inconsistent overall.
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Speaker 2: That’s just factual. And if the Chiefs in this game,
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Speaker 2: you can’t let Denver be in the game late because listen,
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Speaker 2: we talked about our team last year how we found
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Speaker 2: ways to win right well, will be not hypocritical. The Broncos,
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Speaker 2: to their credit, have found ways to win these games late.
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Speaker 2: If you’re the Chiefs, keep the pressure on these guys
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Speaker 2: offensively where they have to match you score for score.
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Speaker 2: Hard to do against this great Broncos defense, but that’s
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Speaker 2: kind of been the trend here is the Broncos have
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Speaker 2: been able to hang around in some of these games
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Speaker 2: where maybe they didn’t play well offensively and they found
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Speaker 2: a way in the end. Can’t that happened here on Sunday?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, easier said than done. This Denver defense really goes
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Speaker 1: back to last year. They’ve had the least points allowed
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Speaker 1: over twenty seven games, not just the ten games this year,
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Speaker 1: but this ying and yang of like, offensively, what are they?
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Speaker 1: What are they? Only ten points in their first offensive possessions?
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Speaker 1: Only ten? Now only Tennessee and Washington are worse, so
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Speaker 1: like okay, and part of the incompletions they have. Only
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville’s got more drop passes on a percentage than these guys.
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Speaker 1: So if Bo’s off target some, they’re also dropping a
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Speaker 1: bunch with these guys. And so again it’s it’s they’re
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Speaker 1: just an interesting group to follow. There’s six and two
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Speaker 1: in the one score games. Last year they were one
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Speaker 1: and six and still made the playoffs. We’re owing four
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Speaker 1: in those games, and we’re owing four, So people are, well,
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Speaker 1: that’s either or now. Last year, Okay, maybe maybe so,
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Speaker 1: but maybe the Chiefs will get hot in one score games.
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Speaker 1: I don’t know. But again, it’s an exception defense, a
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Speaker 1: resourceful offense. I know you’ve got a stat here because
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Speaker 1: they have one hundred and nineteen offensive possessions one hundred
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Speaker 1: and nineteen, but they have on those thirty four to
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Speaker 1: three and outs. Only Philadelphia has more three and outs
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Speaker 1: than these guys.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they’re three and out percentage is twenty nine percent,
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Speaker 2: second highest in the league. But yeah, you mentioned the
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Speaker 2: offensive possessions. One hundred and nineteen offensive possessions is crazy. Now,
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Speaker 2: they haven’t had their buy yet, so they’ve played an
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Speaker 2: extra game, but one hundred nineteen offensive possessions most in
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Speaker 2: the NFL. The Chiefs only have eighty four offensive possessions
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Speaker 2: this year, fewest in the NFL. Why don’t we bring
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Speaker 2: this up? Well, both teams have scored exactly twenty eight touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: So the Chiefs have twenty eight touchdown drives on their
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Speaker 2: eighty four possessions. The Broncos have twenty eight touchdown drives
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Speaker 2: on their one hundred and nineteen possessions. That is a
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Speaker 2: difference of thirty five possessions, and the Chiefs have the
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Speaker 2: same number of touchdown drives. It’s easy to watch the
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Speaker 2: Bills game and to get frustrated and to say, man,
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Speaker 2: the offense like it isn’t finding ways to move up
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Speaker 2: and down the field. This offense overall this year, especially
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Speaker 2: once everyone got back, has been so good. Like go
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Speaker 2: back to the Detroit game right or the Raiders game,
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Speaker 2: or wherever it may be, Like, this offense is humming overall.
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Speaker 2: A bit of a speed bump against Buffalo, not quite
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Speaker 2: what we expected in that game, But this offense is
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Speaker 2: still really good. And I think it’s a fun matchup
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Speaker 2: between a great defense in Denver and an offense that
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Speaker 2: had a week to get healthy over the bye, a
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Speaker 2: week to recharge and to go.
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Speaker 3: After these guys.
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Speaker 2: I think it’s gonna be an awesome matchup and hopefully
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs offense can win more often than the the
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Speaker 2: Broncos defense does.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it’s critical. But someone who’s had an eye
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Speaker 1: on the Broncos and everybody else in the AFC West
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Speaker 1: a long time before this was our AFC West spy,
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Speaker 1: Ari Wolf. So let’s check in with Ari and see
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Speaker 1: what he thinks about this game, the rest of the
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Speaker 1: division and the rest of the league.
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Speaker 6: Hello to everyone a week eleven. Excited to see Matt
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Speaker 6: Midge the bye week, you know for the team. Great
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Speaker 6: to get some rest. I missed you guys a lot.
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Speaker 6: Can’t wait to get back to out West. This week
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Speaker 6: we begin in the AFC West, as we always do.
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Speaker 6: The Thursday Night game last week featured Denver and Las Vegas,
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Speaker 6: a football game that my eyes were tortured at times.
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Speaker 6: It was one of the worst Thursday Night games I’ve
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Speaker 6: ever seen. Somehow, Denver escapes their ten and with a
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Speaker 6: ten to seven win, they’ve now won seven straight games.
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Speaker 6: They had more penalties than points. Nick throws two picks,
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Speaker 6: only throws for one hundred and fifty yards and he’s
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Speaker 6: the player of the game. Gino Smith is terribly banged
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Speaker 6: up late in the game. Why he keeps going back
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Speaker 6: out there and not letting Kenny Pickett play was making
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Speaker 6: my mind want to pop. Gentlemen, explain to me how
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Speaker 6: Denver is eight and two and why the Raiders aren’t
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Speaker 6: at least considering giving Kenny Pickett a shot. Matt, let’s
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Speaker 6: start with you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tough one. The whole primetime slate
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Speaker 2: this past week was pretty difficult. Now, being the sick
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Speaker 2: that I am, I watched every second of it. I
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Speaker 2: could not turn off Broncos Raiders, even though I wanted
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Speaker 2: to at times. To answer your question, the Broncos defense
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Speaker 2: is terrific, and it’s something that Mitch and I have
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Speaker 2: been talking about on the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Their defense is awesome.
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Speaker 2: Their pass rush is incredible, something that we’ll have to
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Speaker 2: deal with here this Sunday. But Gino and the Raiders’
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Speaker 2: offense really didn’t have much of a chance. Now, it’s
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Speaker 2: interesting how football comes down to a couple of plays,
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Speaker 2: because the Raiders early on looked like they had a
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Speaker 2: pretty good game plan and Jenty had a couple of
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Speaker 2: big runs, they had a touchdown, but all taken off
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Speaker 2: the board right, and then late in the game when
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Speaker 2: it was still there for the Raiders, the ball goes
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Speaker 2: off Genty’s face mask and into the arms of Broncos defender.
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Speaker 2: So the Raiders have struggled this year, as we know,
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Speaker 2: and the margin for them is pretty thin against a
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Speaker 2: good team like Dender. But the Raiders had their chances,
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Speaker 2: unfortunately came up short.
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Speaker 1: I just get mesbrized because I want to see Zimbabwe,
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Speaker 1: but now you’re covering it up. So and my daughter
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Speaker 1: was ins for two and a half years, and that’s
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Speaker 1: right behind your left ear.
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Speaker 5: But it’s I love your Matt.
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Speaker 1: The I felt like it was one of those like
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Speaker 1: lower level World Cup games that was nil nil until
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Speaker 1: like a red card happened and then somebody got to kick,
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Speaker 1: you know, kick it from point blank range and won
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Speaker 1: one nil in advance. Uh. To be honest, Denver’s a
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Speaker 1: very interesting study. Matt and I have been talking. I
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Speaker 1: don’t think we’ve seen a team quite like this probably
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Speaker 1: for a quarter century, in that their defense is historic.
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Speaker 1: They’re on a sack trail to blow out the eighty
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Speaker 1: five Bears. It’s the most sacks in ten games since
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Speaker 1: the eighty nine Vikings.
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Speaker 5: But it’s their quick pressure rate.
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Speaker 1: The fact that how do you negate great upfront pressure,
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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, get get out fast. Right
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Speaker 1: two is out in two point two seconds and Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence is out in two point These guys get pressure
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Speaker 1: faster than anybody in the league. But Nito is an animal.
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Speaker 1: Zach Allen might be the most underrated player in the
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Speaker 1: entire league. And then and don’t forget Jonathan Cooper who’s
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Speaker 1: he’s really good. So that’s how they win the game.
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Speaker 1: They just completely put to take all four tires and
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Speaker 1: take all the air out and then you got to
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Speaker 1: somehow grind away now offensively, yeah, the Broncos. I mean
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Speaker 1: when you look at bow Nick’s as six career wins
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Speaker 1: with an under seventy passer rating, it’s almost like he
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Speaker 1: doesn’t do anything through the semester and then he takes
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Speaker 1: the final and gets an A because he’s awesome in
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I got to give him credit, but
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Speaker 1: it’s like what’s going on in the other three quarters?
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Speaker 1: Their offensive line is good and really improve mclinchy and
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Speaker 1: how he’s improved in bulls is big time. And then
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Speaker 1: Miners as a stud. But that’s that’s why these guys
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Speaker 1: are eight and two now they’re kind of the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. Right, Let’s be honest, we had
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Speaker 1: eleven one score wins. Can’t do it that way? Wow,
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Speaker 1: that I don’t know. You just can’t do that. In
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Speaker 1: the NFL, Broncos do it. That’s a gritty team. But
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Speaker 1: they’re doing the same thing the Chiefs are a year ago. Sorry, folks,
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Speaker 1: that’s what’s going on, all right.
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Speaker 6: I want to follow over with you mentioned one other
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Speaker 6: comparison I had to what Denver is doing. It kind
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Speaker 6: of reminds me of the Trent del for Ravens that
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Speaker 6: had the incredible defense to ray Lewis right, I mean,
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Speaker 6: their offense was hard to watch. They had the big
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Speaker 6: tailback a boy. Other than that, their defense carry him
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Speaker 6: to a lot of games.
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Brad Johnson Bucks too. The Brad
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Speaker 1: Johnson Bucks about too.
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Speaker 6: So you know some quarterbacks. You know, when we think
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Speaker 6: about Super Bowl champion quarterbacks and their name pubs, that’d
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Speaker 6: be like, oh, that guy won a Super Bowl. Will
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Speaker 6: Brad Johnson tred Dell for them would certainly be included.
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Speaker 6: Let’s move on next to the Chargers, who improved a
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Speaker 6: seven to three. Yes, in primetime, it was not particularly
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Speaker 6: entertaining games. The Chargers have won three straight. They’ve overcome
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Speaker 6: a ton of injuries. I think you guys will like
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Speaker 6: this quote from Harbaugh. It was so It’s so Jim Harbough.
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Speaker 6: He said, quote, it was won by hart, grit, and guts,
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Speaker 6: And that’s what this one was. They stopped Aaron Rodgers,
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Speaker 6: but I kept seeing Justin Herbert get hit again again
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Speaker 6: and again. They win twenty five to ten, but he’s
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Speaker 6: still getting hit every game. Is that sustainable? Is this
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Speaker 6: Charger seven and three team? Is this going to be
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Speaker 6: a team that can win eleven twelve games? I don’t
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Speaker 6: see it. But you guys have been following this team
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Speaker 6: all of your lives. Let me tell me. Is this
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Speaker 6: Charger seven and three team a real threat in the AFC?
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Speaker 2: Well, not having Joe Alt is a really big deal.
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Speaker 2: You know, he gets hurt, goes an ir, comes back
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Speaker 2: and gets hurt again, and I believe he’s out for
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Speaker 2: the season. Now that’s a huge deal. Look at where
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Speaker 2: they began the season with Slater and All maybe two
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Speaker 2: of the best bookends in all of football. Well, now
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Speaker 2: you don’t have either of those guys, and that’s a
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Speaker 2: big deal.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I thought Pittsburgh’s pass rush would control the game more
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Speaker 2: so they got after Herbert got him on the ground
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Speaker 2: pretty often, but it didn’t seem to matter because Aaron
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Speaker 2: Rodgers was throwing the ball directly to Charger defenders on
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Speaker 2: the other side. It’s one of the worst games I’ve
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Speaker 2: ever seen Rogers play, really bizarre, like he was missing
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Speaker 2: high a lot. The Steelers had chances in that game
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Speaker 2: until they didn’t because they just kept giving the Chargers
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Speaker 2: offense the ball.
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Speaker 3: So uh.
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Speaker 2: The Steelers defense I think did their part for the
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Speaker 2: most part in that game until it was out of reach.
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Speaker 2: Really no fault of their own, but I do wonder
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Speaker 2: how sustainable it is for the Chargers moving forward with
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Speaker 2: their protection. But hey, we’ll give them credit. They have
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Speaker 2: the record right now, they’re playing good football and they’re
842
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Speaker 2: finding ways to win games. I won’t criticize them for that,
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Speaker 2: but it will be tough moving forward with their tackle situation.
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Speaker 2: Something to watch for sure.
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Speaker 5: Let me let me look through my Jim Harbaugh glasses.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, hy sight with age, and so maybe that’s
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00:39:33,760 –> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: going on Aaron Rodgers. Is that black and gold or
848
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Speaker 1: is that blue and I can’t tell the I thought
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Speaker 1: all did sobody copy and paste the Thursday night game
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Speaker 1: and just put it on this one. I thought I
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Speaker 1: was watching the same game. Seriously, it was in in
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00:39:48,080 –> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: pass rush for the Chargers was great. Two week below
853
00:39:51,480 –> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: two is awesome. So I just thought this is the
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Speaker 1: This is the Raiders and Broncos all over again.
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Speaker 5: It’s just the Steelers in the Chargers.
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Speaker 6: Well, speaking of the Steelers, so I want to make
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Speaker 6: a comparison to last year. You may recall that Russell
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Speaker 6: Wilson for the first part of the season look great
859
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Speaker 6: as the Steelers quarterback. I believe they peaked at eight
860
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Speaker 6: and three. It feels like this is deja vu, right,
861
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers gets off to the grade start, and all
862
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Speaker 6: of a sudden, the offense isn’t doing anything. I’m not
863
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Speaker 6: saying it’s an indictment on the Steelers offense. I’m not
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Speaker 6: laying it all on the quarterback, but it is interesting
865
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Speaker 6: both guys brought into that first year get off to
866
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Speaker 6: amazing starts. People are talking about the resurrection of Aaron Rodgers.
867
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Speaker 6: Just a week ago, people were saying that Aaron Rodgers
868
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Speaker 6: should consider playing another season, and then you watch the
869
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Speaker 6: game the other night and you’re thinking, maybe this is
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Speaker 6: the final season for Aaron Rodgers. All right, now to
871
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Speaker 6: my game of last week. I have to put a
872
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Speaker 6: qualifier on it, gentlemen, because I’m bringing it up for
873
00:40:46,680 –> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 6: the purpose of having another conversation. Because the game itself
874
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Speaker 6: was entertaining, it didn’t like blow my mind. I’m referring
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Speaker 6: to the Patriots at the Buccaneers, two teams winning records.
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people wanted to see what
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Speaker 6: this Patriot its team was all about. Because they go
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Speaker 6: on the road against a solid Tampa team, a Todd
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Speaker 6: Bowles defense. What would Drake May look like? Okay, so
880
00:41:08,920 –> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: the Patriots win the game. Drake May is under fifty
881
00:41:13,120 –> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: passing pedestrian numbers, throws an interception. He is currently the
882
00:41:18,040 –> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: odds maker’s favorite to win the NFL MVP. What am
883
00:41:21,719 –> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: I missing? And this is really a time to let’s
884
00:41:23,760 –> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: just talk NFL MVP for a few minutes. Is May
885
00:41:27,640 –> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 6: really a Canada to win? And what am I missing?
886
00:41:30,360 –> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: Because when I watch him, I think with this guy
887
00:41:32,040 –> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 6: is ascending talent. I like the way he plays, I
888
00:41:34,719 –> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 6: like the way he carries himself. But MVP that seems
889
00:41:37,920 –> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 6: to have made a huge jump in a half a season. Matt,
890
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Speaker 6: let’s start with you. What are your thoughts on the
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Speaker 6: current MVP race.
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00:41:45,680 –> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I’ll start by saying I think May is
893
00:41:47,719 –> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: really good. I remember watching that game a handful of
894
00:41:51,040 –> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago where they went into Buffalo and beat the Bills,
895
00:41:53,800 –> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: and he was awesome in that game. That showed me
896
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Speaker 2: a lot, So I think he’s a really good player
897
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Speaker 2: and a big time ascending player. I do think the
898
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Speaker 2: MVP is all about narratives though, and narratively speaking, a
899
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Speaker 2: player like May going into New England and kind of
900
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Speaker 2: resurrecting this franchise that was so great for so long
901
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Speaker 2: and had some down years and now they’re.
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Speaker 3: Winning their division.
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00:42:14,760 –> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: You know, they go into Buffalo, they beat Buffalo, Like,
904
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Speaker 2: he has all the narrative stuff going on, and I
905
00:42:19,680 –> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: also think narratively speaking, he is so much better than
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Speaker 2: people expected him to be this early in his career.
907
00:42:26,080 –> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: And it’s all about expectations, right. We were joking around
908
00:42:28,880 –> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: earlier that if mahomes there was one interception, everyone freaks
909
00:42:32,360 –> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: out nationally because the expectation is that he’s perfect all
910
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Speaker 2: the time. What’s kind of the opposite for May he’s
911
00:42:38,120 –> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: a young player that has potential but maybe hasn’t seized
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00:42:41,920 –> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: it yet. Well, all of a sudden, he’s playing pretty
913
00:42:44,840 –> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: good football and they’re winning their division and winning big games. Well,
914
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Speaker 2: that narrative is through the roof because he becomes the guy.
915
00:42:50,600 –> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: I think right now it’s probably Matthew Stafford. If I’m
916
00:42:52,719 –> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: being totally unbiased, I think Stafford’s playing great football right now.
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Speaker 2: But it’s also Week eleven, and there’s a lot of
918
00:42:59,160 –> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: football to be played, and this thing changes every week.
919
00:43:02,120 –> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean last week people were saying Mahomes was odds
920
00:43:05,080 –> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: on favorite, right, I still think Mahomes has a great
921
00:43:07,239 –> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: shot to win it if we can do what we
922
00:43:08,960 –> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: know this team can do over the last several games
923
00:43:11,400 –> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: of the year. But if I had to pick someone
924
00:43:13,760 –> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: right now, if I’m being totally unbiased, I think Stafford
925
00:43:16,120 –> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 2: has earned it so far.
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Speaker 1: I think there’s a way bigger story here than Drake
927
00:43:20,680 –> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: May And I’ll tell you why. And it popped up
928
00:43:25,840 –> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: when I thought the transformation Mike Brabels made to that
929
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Speaker 1: entire team. It’s only the second team, only the second
930
00:43:33,680 –> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: team in sixty years in the Super Bowl era that
931
00:43:36,880 –> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: had started eight and two in a coach’s first season.
932
00:43:39,480 –> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: The other the twenty thirteen Kansas City Chiefs. This is
933
00:43:44,120 –> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: a complete transformation here. When Andy came in and it
934
00:43:48,280 –> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: was everybody. It was from the kicker to the fifty
935
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Speaker 1: third guy to Alex Smith, who he brought in. To me,
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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots are a exact replica the twenty
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Speaker 1: thirteen Sheefs. They got Stefan Diggs enjoying playing football again
938
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Speaker 1: and trying to be unselfish. Right, He’s like, Oh, let’s
939
00:44:08,400 –> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: just do what we need to do to win. So like, wow,
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Speaker 1: that’s overcoming something. The way they run the ball, the
941
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Speaker 1: way they block, the way they play, the way they
942
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Speaker 1: play all four quarters, the way they attack every snap.
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Speaker 1: It is a complete transformation. To me. It’s a little
944
00:44:21,560 –> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: bit refreshing to show everybody in the NBA, the MLB,
945
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Speaker 1: maybe even the NHL, and for sure the NFL that
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Speaker 1: a coach and a staff can make a complete transition
947
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Speaker 1: back to what it should be to win games. That’s
948
00:44:35,600 –> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: what’s happened here. We haven’t stopped since that year, and
949
00:44:38,440 –> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: New England is doing it now.
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Speaker 6: But I also like the fact I’m just a brable guy.
951
00:44:43,040 –> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 6: I like everything he’s about. He’s He just oozes the
952
00:44:46,320 –> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: kind of football mentality that I love. So if you’re
953
00:44:49,440 –> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: just talking.
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Speaker 5: Coaching conference, just wait a minute, Dari.
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Speaker 1: His news conferences now have become like you hope it
956
00:44:55,440 –> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: pops up on your reels, right if something was like
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00:44:58,040 –> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: the days when Bob Knight was in his heyday at
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00:44:59,880 –> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: a Indiana and we played them a couple of times
959
00:45:02,680 –> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: when I was doing k State, and I made sure
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00:45:04,440 –> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: I went to his news conference just because of the
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00:45:06,719 –> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: what’s going to happen? Because if you have some stupid question,
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Speaker 1: he is going to put a blow toward right up
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Speaker 1: your nostrils down.
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Speaker 6: So now when you look at coach of the Year,
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Speaker 6: you know, for a while, I’m just thinking Shane Steichen’s
966
00:45:19,760 –> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 6: kind of like cruise in the air. Well, now I
967
00:45:21,400 –> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: think it’s really you look at Rabel and the turnaround there.
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Speaker 6: They’ve got some interesting candidates there. I want to stay
969
00:45:28,040 –> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 6: along with the Patriots for a second. They are currently
970
00:45:31,440 –> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: the number three seed. The other teams that involved Indy
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00:45:35,680 –> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 6: has remaining that game at Kansas City, and they also
972
00:45:38,239 –> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 6: have to go to a very good Seattle team. Denver
973
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Speaker 6: obviously has the two games versus the Chiefs. They have
974
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Speaker 6: the Packers at home, and then they have the Chargers
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Speaker 6: at home. It’s sitting up. Depending on especially what happens
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Speaker 6: with the Chiefs and the Broncos this week, the AFC
977
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Speaker 6: could be a thrilling finish buying four playoff position because
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00:45:56,120 –> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 6: there’s a lot of teams with really good records. All right,
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Speaker 6: let me get back on track Week eleven. I know
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Speaker 6: you guys will have covered.
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Speaker 1: Let me say this, New England has by far the
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00:46:05,000 –> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: easiest schedule left of anybody on the earth. They have
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00:46:07,520 –> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: and I like Wafford, but they have the Wafford Terriers
984
00:46:10,480 –> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: and they have cal Poly San Lui Obispo the last
985
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Speaker 1: two weeks of the year.
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Speaker 5: I think that’ll help them possibly get the one seed.
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00:46:18,360 –> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: That’s just wild to me. They could be the ones.
988
00:46:20,520 –> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: So all right, so the Chiefs Broncos game is setting
989
00:46:24,040 –> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: up to be the most significant game between the two
990
00:46:26,200 –> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 6: franchises in years, right. I mean, the Broncos just haven’t
991
00:46:29,760 –> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 6: been able to put it together. Now they’re eight and two.
992
00:46:32,560 –> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: You’ve got the Chiefs coming off the bye. It’s sort
993
00:46:36,000 –> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 6: of it’s the most significant game for the Chiefs in
994
00:46:38,640 –> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 6: a regular season game that feels like in eons because
995
00:46:41,080 –> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: last year they won all the close games. You’re five
996
00:46:43,560 –> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 6: and four, you beat Denver, everything’s in front of you.
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00:46:47,440 –> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 6: If you lose to Denver this week, suddenly the season
998
00:46:49,760 –> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 6: has a different shape. Look, you could still be the wildcard.
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00:46:51,920 –> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 6: They’ve shown they can be the wildcard, and then you’ll
1000
00:46:54,200 –> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 6: still go to the super Bowl. What’s the feeling in
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Speaker 6: Kansas City, within the building, within the organized about the
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Speaker 6: challenge this week of playing this elite defense. Just give
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Speaker 6: me a sense of the vibe around the building about
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Speaker 6: the thoughts about playing the Broncos this week.
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Speaker 2: Well, one thing that I’d say is I think there’s
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00:47:12,120 –> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot out there about how this is like the
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00:47:14,000 –> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: most important regular season game for the Chiefs in a while.
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Speaker 2: I want to push back on that a little bit
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Speaker 2: because I think it’s easy to look at the last
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00:47:21,600 –> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: several years and see the Super Bowls and the AFC
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Speaker 2: Championships and think that the Chiefs have just cruised to
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00:47:26,520 –> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: all these AFC West titles. But I think about twenty
1013
00:47:29,480 –> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: twenty three, when the Chiefs were nine to six at
1014
00:47:32,520 –> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: one point, there was a chance the Chiefs could miss
1015
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. In twenty twenty three, people forget about that.
1016
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Speaker 2: I remember the game against the Bengals here at home
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Speaker 2: against the Jake Browning led Bengals, and it felt like
1018
00:47:44,680 –> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: a playoff game. That game was intense, and the Bengals
1019
00:47:47,760 –> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: are playing really good football defensively Browning was playing well
1020
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Speaker 2: like that felt like a playoff game, and I remember
1021
00:47:52,680 –> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: the intensity going into that game was through the roof.
1022
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Speaker 2: And we don’t look back on that now as a
1023
00:47:57,160 –> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: big game in Chief’s history or anything, but at the time,
1024
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Speaker 2: it felt like a big game. In the regular season.
1025
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Speaker 2: Of course, the Chiefs go on to win the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: I think about twenty twenty one, which the season has
1027
00:48:06,360 –> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: felt a lot like the twenty twenty one season so far,
1028
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Speaker 2: but the Chiefs start three to four. I remember a
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00:48:12,800 –> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night football game in Vegas that year where if
1030
00:48:15,960 –> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs lose that game, they would have been in
1031
00:48:17,520 –> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: last place in the division. If they won it, they
1032
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Speaker 2: would be in first place in the division. That’s how close.
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Speaker 3: Everything was.
1034
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Speaker 2: Huge game going into it, and the Raiders had all
1035
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Speaker 2: this momentum. I think the Chiefs went three and out
1036
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Speaker 2: on their first possession in that game, and everyone’s freaking out,
1037
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Speaker 2: going crazy, thinking the Chiefs demise is here. Well, of course,
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs win that game going to host the AFC
1039
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Speaker 2: title game that year. So I think there has been
1040
00:48:38,280 –> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: these moments, these regular season games over the years that
1041
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Speaker 2: had kind of a similar intensity and the Chiefs took
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Speaker 2: care of business. And the reason I bring all this
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00:48:46,880 –> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: up is because the culture here is not just one
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00:48:49,520 –> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: of we just cruised the AFC West titles.
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00:48:51,960 –> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: This is easy, Like.
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00:48:53,400 –> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: People aren’t freaking out like this team has been in
1047
00:48:55,960 –> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: these moments before where there’s big kind of flashpoint games
1048
00:49:00,080 –> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: where you know, the barbarians are at the gate, right,
1049
00:49:04,480 –> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: what do you do? And the Chiefs time and time
1050
00:49:07,120 –> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: again have found a way to win these games and
1051
00:49:09,280 –> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: we don’t talk about them because they end up on
1052
00:49:11,200 –> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and that’s a much bigger story, right.
1053
00:49:13,760 –> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: So anyway, that’s what i’d say. I think the narrative
1054
00:49:15,840 –> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: and the vibe in the building right now is one
1055
00:49:18,280 –> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: of being refreshed, recharged and ready to take care of business.
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00:49:22,640 –> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: All right.
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00:49:23,000 –> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: This is about the time of the week in a
1058
00:49:24,400 –> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: big game week where I start getting clips from Matt
1059
00:49:28,160 –> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: with Lord of the Rings on it, which I.
1060
00:49:29,640 –> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: Just think, yes, we’re about that topic.
1061
00:49:32,360 –> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah we are Wednesday afternoon. Whatever you like about Mike Vrabel,
1062
00:49:38,040 –> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: you would love about Andy Reid. And here’s why I
1063
00:49:40,520 –> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: answer you a question this way. Andy Reid is taught
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00:49:44,040 –> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: this whole team and it started in twenty thirteen. Bigger
1065
00:49:47,440 –> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: the opponent, better the opponent, Embrace the embrace it, embrace it,
1066
00:49:51,920 –> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: and attack it. That’s not talking smack on Denver. We
1067
00:49:55,560 –> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: laid it out there. But this theme of this podcast
1068
00:49:59,200 –> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: has been, it’s not I keep it getting asked in
1069
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Speaker 1: all these shows.
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Speaker 5: Must win, must win, must win. No, it’s not a
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00:50:03,800 –> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: must win.
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00:50:04,239 –> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: It’s a NASCAR race and there’s seven laps to go
1073
00:50:06,880 –> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: after this one, and so we could see engine failure
1074
00:50:09,719 –> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff. It’s critical, That’s what we’re
1075
00:50:12,320 –> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: saying in this It’s crucial and that’s the theme.
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00:50:14,880 –> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 5: But ain’t the vibe.
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00:50:16,719 –> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Here is he gets everybody to love these games because
1078
00:50:21,520 –> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: the bigger the challenge, the greater it is.
1079
00:50:23,840 –> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 5: And that’s why we’ve been able to go to five
1080
00:50:25,320 –> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: Super Bowls in the last six years.
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00:50:27,200 –> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: And oh, I don’t know, go to Buffalo and win,
1082
00:50:29,800 –> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: and go to dent or go to Baltimore and win
1083
00:50:32,560 –> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: and beat the San Francisco forty nine ers who were
1084
00:50:34,560 –> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: challenging the Bears, or that was the Eagles challenging the
1085
00:50:37,960 –> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Bears sack record. So the mentality here is let’s go
1086
00:50:41,840 –> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: not to talk smack, but that’s just what we do.
1087
00:50:43,680 –> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 5: You sharpen the sword and go to battle.
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Speaker 6: Let me be clear, gentlemen, to all those in the kingdom,
1089
00:50:49,880 –> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: I oppose these as conversation pieces. They’re probably people.
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00:50:54,520 –> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 5: They know they know you’re undercover.
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00:50:57,120 –> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 6: You can’t just know that you’ve got raiders.
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Speaker 1: If they look see this hologram, there’s a Chiefs there,
1093
00:51:01,880 –> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: so we know we know here.
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Speaker 4: Dude.
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Speaker 6: I’m an Andy Reid guy through and through, so I
1096
00:51:09,640 –> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: don’t care who they’re playing when where. I always believe
1097
00:51:13,120 –> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 6: that he will have the game plan, he will have
1098
00:51:14,760 –> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: the team with the right mindset. So the bigger the moment,
1099
00:51:17,680 –> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 6: the more I trust in Andy. So just know that
1100
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Speaker 6: I’m posing this. There is zero doubt in my mind
1101
00:51:22,719 –> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 6: that he will have the Chiefs ready to go. All
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00:51:24,800 –> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: right to the other games coming up to the AFC
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00:51:26,680 –> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: West this week, the Chargers against this suddenly now kind
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00:51:30,080 –> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: of depleted Jags team. Another interesting trip though, right, I
1105
00:51:35,239 –> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 6: mean you got to go all the way across the country.
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00:51:38,320 –> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter is out, which I think is a huge
1107
00:51:40,200 –> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 6: bummer that that whole story didn’t really pan out the
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00:51:42,680 –> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 6: way that Jags hoped would be. But this is an
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00:51:44,920 –> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: interesting one for the Chargers. Right, you’re coming off like
1110
00:51:47,080 –> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: a big, high profile game, you beat the Steelers. Now
1111
00:51:50,160 –> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 6: you go to the Jags and look, they’ve got to
1112
00:51:52,280 –> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 6: maintained pace. Right, even when the Chiefs win on Sunday, right,
1113
00:51:56,520 –> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 6: they’ll be there. They need a win to stay at
1114
00:51:58,320 –> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 6: three losses and be right there with This strikes me
1115
00:52:01,680 –> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 6: as the kind of game in the past that the
1116
00:52:03,160 –> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: Chargers have found a way to lose, kind of like
1117
00:52:04,880 –> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 6: when they went to the Giants earlier this year and lost.
1118
00:52:07,880 –> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 6: Matt’s always looking for ways to convince yourself of these things.
1119
00:52:11,280 –> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: I am somewhat convinced that the Chargers can blow this
1120
00:52:14,280 –> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: game and lose in Jagsonville.
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, that’d be great. I would love if
1122
00:52:18,840 –> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: the Jags can win this game. One thing that I
1123
00:52:21,560 –> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: was looking into was, well, hey, maybe the Jags pass
1124
00:52:23,880 –> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: rush can get after Herbert because we talked about their
1125
00:52:26,040 –> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: tackle situation. Well, the Jags have the fewest sacks in
1126
00:52:28,800 –> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: the NFL, So I’m not sure that that’s how it
1127
00:52:31,440 –> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: will go. Maybe it will, Maybe josh Heinz Allen will
1128
00:52:34,200 –> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: go crazy. The Jags are just a weird study and
1129
00:52:37,360 –> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: I can’t really figure them out. You know, we had
1130
00:52:40,200 –> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: our game against them, which in retrospect is kind of
1131
00:52:42,800 –> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: inexplicable the way that it went. They played great football
1132
00:52:46,160 –> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: against us, and Mitch has this awesome stat or this
1133
00:52:49,680 –> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: at least concept that we’ve talked about about teams after
1134
00:52:53,719 –> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: they play the Chiefs and how they fare because they
1135
00:52:56,040 –> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: put so much time and energy and thought into our game.
1136
00:53:00,000 –> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: Give them credit, they beat us, right, but you can
1137
00:53:01,920 –> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: tell that maybe it’s that game, maybe it’s not. But
1138
00:53:05,160 –> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: they have not been the same team since that night, right,
1139
00:53:08,560 –> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: So can they do it? Of course they can. They
1140
00:53:11,480 –> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent, and when they’re playing good football,
1141
00:53:14,000 –> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: they’re among the better teams in the NFL. But they’re
1142
00:53:16,680 –> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: they’ve been so inconsistent this year. It’s hard to know
1143
00:53:19,360 –> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: what exactly you’re getting from the Jacks.
1144
00:53:22,040 –> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 5: They live rif takeaways.
1145
00:53:23,920 –> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: It’s the only thing they’ve got if you look at
1146
00:53:25,520 –> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: all their we look at their report card. They’re getting
1147
00:53:27,600 –> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: d’s in chemistry and you know season math, Hey, god,
1148
00:53:31,480 –> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they got an A and takeaways they have seventeen. But
1149
00:53:33,760 –> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: if they don’t get them, I’m not sure there’s enough
1150
00:53:35,600 –> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: gas here, but it depends on and the Chargers want
1151
00:53:39,719 –> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: to run the ball right now and they can’t. They’re
1152
00:53:41,880 –> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: just so McConkie’s really good. He’ll make big plays. And
1153
00:53:46,600 –> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess since hurt so who knows, But I don’t
1154
00:53:49,040 –> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: know if Jacksonville’s got enough, and it is. It’s a
1155
00:53:52,080 –> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: study go back to even to twenty two, twenty three,
1156
00:53:54,280 –> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: twenty four. Look at teams after they play the Chiefs,
1157
00:53:58,080 –> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: either the week after or the next two to three
1158
00:54:00,040 –> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: three weeks, and so much helium goes into our game.
1159
00:54:02,960 –> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Not to be arrogant, but there’s so much helium that
1160
00:54:05,480 –> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: goes into our game that they’re they’re out of breath
1161
00:54:08,080 –> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: in the for the next two or three weeks.
1162
00:54:10,680 –> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: And we haven’t seen Jacksonville recovery yet.
1163
00:54:13,280 –> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 6: Well, I’m gonna I’m gonna come back to that theme
1164
00:54:15,320 –> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 6: in my final thought because we’re on the same wavelength.
1165
00:54:19,200 –> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: The final game involving an AMC West team is a
1166
00:54:21,880 –> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 6: game that I think the NFL wishes it could flex
1167
00:54:23,880 –> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 6: out of. That is the Cowboys taking on the Raiders,
1168
00:54:27,480 –> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: certainly not as sexy a game as maybe they’d hoped.
1169
00:54:30,120 –> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 6: That the Raiders overachieved and the Cowboys could put together
1170
00:54:34,719 –> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 6: a semblance of consistency. I keep saying that the Raiders
1171
00:54:39,400 –> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 6: are gonna win a game they’re not supposed to. I’m
1172
00:54:42,000 –> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: just gonna stop saying that maybe the reversial happened. I mean,
1173
00:54:46,000 –> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 6: any thoughts. I mean, is this a game the Raiders
1174
00:54:48,040 –> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 6: can win? Or is the Cowboys will score too many points?
1175
00:54:50,760 –> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 6: Because the Raiders have showed an inability to put points
1176
00:54:53,239 –> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 6: on the board.
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Speaker 2: I will talk myself into watching just about any football game.
1178
00:54:57,760 –> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: This game, I’ll talk myself into watching because we see
1179
00:54:59,719 –> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: the cow Boys in a couple of weeks, so I
1180
00:55:01,400 –> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: am interested to see how they look, how they play
1181
00:55:05,280 –> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: against the Raiders. And whenever the Raiders are out there,
1182
00:55:07,920 –> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: I’m always curious to see what Brock Bauers can do.
1183
00:55:10,480 –> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, getting back to our conversation about the Broncos
1184
00:55:13,200 –> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Raiders game earlier. That was the craziest thing is Bowers
1185
00:55:16,120 –> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: had like two targets in that game. And I understand,
1186
00:55:18,840 –> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: like he’s the main focus of the Denver defense, like
1187
00:55:20,880 –> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: they’re going to try to take him away, but still
1188
00:55:23,040 –> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: your best player gets two targets Like just kind of
1189
00:55:25,360 –> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: bizarre to me. So I’m expecting Bowers to get like
1190
00:55:27,960 –> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: fifteen targets in this game against Dallas.
1191
00:55:31,120 –> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: I’ve got a folder made of the I put in
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00:55:33,800 –> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders game against the Broncos and the Charger the
1193
00:55:38,320 –> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Chargers game last week, so I’ll just pull that one
1194
00:55:40,719 –> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: out again because I think this is going to be.
1195
00:55:42,239 –> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 5: The same game.
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00:55:43,040 –> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I it feels like a two to
1197
00:55:46,239 –> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: one penalty kick win off aheader. I don’t know, Yeah,
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00:55:51,360 –> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: I just the Cowboys. I’m like, Matt, We’ve got three
1199
00:55:54,840 –> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: games in twelve days and the Colts don’t look now,
1200
00:55:58,000 –> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: but they get a bye this week. Great, and that’s
1201
00:56:00,280 –> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: who we got coming in next week. Yeah, so we
1202
00:56:03,160 –> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: got two grinders here going later in the December. But
1203
00:56:06,680 –> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: this one’s a grind. But one part of that grind
1204
00:56:10,000 –> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys. The other thing, and I’m going to
1205
00:56:11,680 –> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: do a minute with Mitch on it next week, is
1206
00:56:13,840 –> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: we’re playing even with the Cowboys and the Bills, you’re
1207
00:56:16,680 –> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: looking at, we’re playing probably the top six offensive lines
1208
00:56:20,200 –> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: here in the league, at least in that group, because
1209
00:56:22,520 –> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo’s there, Dallas is there for sure, the group we’re
1210
00:56:25,680 –> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: playing this week, and the Colts might be the number
1211
00:56:27,480 –> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: one offensive line in the league. So yeah, schedule makers
1212
00:56:31,080 –> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much, but let’s go all right.
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00:56:34,719 –> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: So when I was determining the game of the week,
1214
00:56:37,600 –> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 6: we’ve already discussed the Broncos the Jeeves, and there’s your
1215
00:56:40,480 –> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 6: game of the week, so I had to pick a
1216
00:56:41,600 –> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 6: different game. You can make a pretty compelling case that
1217
00:56:44,280 –> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 6: the Rams Seahawks, right, I mean, the Seahawks have been
1218
00:56:47,040 –> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: much better than we expected. I think Sam Darnold going
1219
00:56:50,200 –> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: up against Matthew Stafford, I mean, it’s got some juice
1220
00:56:54,160 –> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 6: to it. But I think Dan Campbell and the Lions
1221
00:56:59,239 –> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: taking on the off for Eagles is a game of
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00:57:01,520 –> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: sort of NFC juggernauts, and I think people have been
1223
00:57:04,800 –> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 6: clamoring to see these two play. I think everybody thought
1224
00:57:07,560 –> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 6: they were going to play in the NFC Championship Game
1225
00:57:09,520 –> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 6: last year, then the Commanders changed that. I want to
1226
00:57:12,440 –> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: see how these Lions look against the Eagles, because I
1227
00:57:15,120 –> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: do think in terms of physicality, terms of toughness, the
1228
00:57:18,240 –> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: way they go about their business, there are some striking similarities.
1229
00:57:22,480 –> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 6: I’m just really excited to see the game. There’s something
1230
00:57:25,080 –> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 6: about Dan Campbell to just add something to every game. Sirianni, Well,
1231
00:57:29,200 –> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 6: he has been very successful, is not to me as
1232
00:57:31,680 –> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: likable as Dan Campbell, but there’s something about the blue
1233
00:57:34,720 –> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 6: collar nature of the cities. I don’t know this has
1234
00:57:36,840 –> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 6: been a game. When I saw the schedule come out,
1235
00:57:39,000 –> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 6: I thought a Sunday night game Eagles and Lions. Gentlemen,
1236
00:57:42,640 –> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: what’s your take on the Sunday night game?
1237
00:57:45,240 –> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: You know, I think the Lions have had a season
1238
00:57:47,280 –> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: kind of similar to ours in a bunch of ways,
1239
00:57:49,280 –> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: where they start playing really well and everyone’s kind of
1240
00:57:52,960 –> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: on board, and then they lose, and then it’s kind
1241
00:57:55,320 –> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: of like, well, what’s going on with the Lions? And
1242
00:57:56,760 –> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: then they start playing really well again and everyone gets
1243
00:57:59,000 –> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: back on board, and then they is. You know, I
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Speaker 2: think the Lions are a really talented football team. They’re
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Speaker 2: getting healthier now, and I think they’re going to go
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00:58:07,440 –> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: in and beat the Eagles. I really do. It’ll be
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00:58:10,040 –> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: an interesting game. The Eagles have had this inexplicable season
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00:58:13,800 –> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: where they’re they’re winning all these games, but they’re doing
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00:58:16,000 –> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: so and kind of like grind it out fashion.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of not very.
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Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, it kind of sounds like that, right, but
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00:58:22,920 –> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: they don’t get criticized for it. The speaking of primetime
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00:58:26,640 –> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: games that aren’t terribly entertaining, that Packers Eagles game was
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00:58:29,560 –> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: a true test of football fandom.
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Speaker 3: I did watch the entire thing.
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Speaker 6: I thought it was a little bit better than the
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00:58:36,000 –> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 6: Broncos and the Raiders. They were both ten to seven,
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00:58:39,000 –> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: both hard to watch, but I guess I at least
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00:58:41,360 –> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 6: felt like there was a higher level of overall competency
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Speaker 6: in the Monday night game. But I agree with you
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Speaker 6: was not an easy watch.
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Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, when your kids come in with
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00:58:48,400 –> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: a D plus, you’re going, well, it’s not.
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00:58:50,480 –> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: A D kids, That’s okay, Yeah, yeah, but you know
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Speaker 2: that the Eagles, to their credit, they’re figuring out ways
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Speaker 2: to win these games. But I think has more juice
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00:59:00,760 –> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: than the Eagles do, and I’m interested to see if
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Speaker 2: they can go in there and win that game. The
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00:59:04,800 –> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: rams Seahawks game is super interesting though, because you have
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00:59:08,840 –> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: two top five offenses and two top five defenses in
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00:59:11,720 –> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: the same game, and we’re gonna learn a lot about
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00:59:14,440 –> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: those teams. Really interesting matchup, and of course it’s a
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00:59:18,280 –> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: divisional game. I mean, the NFC West might be the
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00:59:20,880 –> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: best division of football this year. Just that’ll be a
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00:59:23,880 –> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 2: fun game to watch for sure.
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Speaker 1: If it is Dan Campbell against Nick Sirianni with pugel
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00:59:30,200 –> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: sticks like the Marine Corps. I’m gonna take Dan Campbell
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00:59:33,360 –> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and give you three and a half points, okay, And
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00:59:36,160 –> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: we’re not supposed to bet, so I’m not betting, but
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00:59:39,120 –> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: I’m taking Dan Campbell if he’s gonna bite both kneecaps
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Speaker 1: off of Sirianni, and I know Sirianni.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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00:59:47,920 –> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: To me. One of the most the wildest stats going
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00:59:50,480 –> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: into Week eleven is the two teams that have the
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00:59:53,480 –> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: most three and out sorry in this league are the
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Speaker 1: Eagles and the Broncos. Crazy, And I would win a
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00:59:59,480 –> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of money if I went to the beach house
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Speaker 1: and started betting people on that, because those aren’t the
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01:00:05,960 –> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: two people are gonna mention. So the Eagles, and this
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Speaker 1: is to mass point, they’re just kind of winning on
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Speaker 1: the you know, defending the power play.
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Speaker 5: It seems like every week defense is good.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they’re just in that same there’s a lot
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Speaker 1: of teams in that same discussion, but I just I
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Speaker 1: feel like the Lions are getting their defensive swag back.
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Speaker 5: Hutchinson stayed healthy.
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Speaker 1: He’s the He’s the big lug nut of that wheel.
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Speaker 1: So the Lions are gonna make another pusher.
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Speaker 6: One final thought on that. We always talk about how
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Speaker 6: he rose him into the deals. If Jalen Phillips plays
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Speaker 6: the way he did on Monday, and hey, that third
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Speaker 6: round pick is gonna look like a bargain. I mean,
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01:00:44,360 –> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 6: I really, he’s just a rental. So you look, they’ll
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01:00:46,600 –> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 6: get you know, they’ll get a pick if he leaves,
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01:00:49,240 –> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: but you might resign it if that guy is healthy.
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Speaker 6: He is a beast. I don’t think I’ve ever spent
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Speaker 6: that much time focused on one guy, but he changed
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Speaker 6: the look of that defensive front up there. I mean,
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Speaker 6: he is a he is a physical specimen, all right.
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Speaker 6: Want to move on to the final thought and involve
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Speaker 6: something you referred to earlier. So when you think about
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Speaker 6: pass Super Bowl champions, you don’t usually think of them
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Speaker 6: having a game or two in a season that you think, wow,
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Speaker 6: like their level of play is just poor. I if
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Speaker 6: I’m a Buffalo Bills fan after watching they play against
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Speaker 6: the Dolphins, I’ve got real concern there because I feel
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Speaker 6: like the best teams find ways to win even when
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Speaker 6: they don’t play well. To me, it wasn’t just the
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Speaker 6: Buffle didn’t play well. Did you look at their sideline?
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Speaker 6: Did you look at the lack of energy. It just
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Speaker 6: didn’t look like a team that was fully engaged. And
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Speaker 6: I don’t normally think of teams going on to great
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Speaker 6: success in the postseason. So when I’m saying is you
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Speaker 6: can’t focus all on the Chiefs and bring it all
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Speaker 6: and play this great game and beat one of the
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Speaker 6: you know that beat a dynasty and then show up
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Speaker 6: in Miami and lose thirty to thirteen. It goes back
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Speaker 6: to what we talked about in a couple episodes ago.
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Speaker 6: I realized it’s any given Sunday, anything can happen. But
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Speaker 6: amongst the elite teams, you don’t offen and see a
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Speaker 6: team not just get I can take the score. It’s
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Speaker 6: the way it looked. The eye test was terrible for
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Speaker 6: the Bills. Josh Allen certainly did not look like an MVP.
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Speaker 6: If anybody brings him up as an MVP candidate, I’m
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Speaker 6: just gonna remind them of this game against the Dolphins.
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Speaker 6: Does that game at all change your guys’s view on
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Speaker 6: what the Bills look like as a contender in the AFC?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think in terms of their overall outlook, maybe sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean that’s a game that they shouldn’t have lost,
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Speaker 2: and they didn’t look very good in terms of when
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01:02:32,440 –> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: they play US. It’s pretty clear that they have built
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01:02:35,160 –> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: their team to play US. And you know, I think
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01:02:37,720 –> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: if we played the Bills ten times, I think each
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01:02:39,480 –> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 2: team wins five times. I think it’s pretty incredible about
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01:02:43,960 –> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: the game against them a couple weeks ago is that
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Speaker 2: despite the Chiefs not playing very well on either side
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Speaker 2: of the ball, we still had the ball with five
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Speaker 2: minutes to go down a touchdown, So it was right
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01:02:53,800 –> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: there for the Chiefs. I’m always gonna think that Buffalo
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01:02:57,360 –> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: will rise to the occasion in the matchups against US,
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01:03:00,360 –> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: but that was surprising to see them lose that game
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Speaker 2: to Miami. And yeah, I mean, they didn’t really play
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Speaker 2: well in any facet.
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Speaker 5: The same helium Jacksonville had.
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Speaker 1: They just sent up the Eastern seaboard and that showed
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01:03:12,840 –> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: up as a ups delivery for Buffalo and then boom,
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01:03:16,440 –> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: they’re out of helium. I honestly thought, and this is
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Speaker 1: not to cast dispersions on Buffalo. They’re trying to change
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Speaker 1: the way they’re doing things. If they don’t win a
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Speaker 1: certain way, all there’s just they’ve got to control the
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01:03:29,360 –> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They’ve got a control time of possession.
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Speaker 1: They’ve got to get enough takeaways. This isn’t Stefan Diggs
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01:03:35,440 –> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: running seven routes. This is a different team. They’re living
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Speaker 1: off James Cook and they’re living off Josh Allen and
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01:03:41,640 –> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: his passer rating at the deep third is not very
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01:03:45,640 –> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: good unless it’s against US, and he was awesome against
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Speaker 1: US at twenty three or twenty six. And give the
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01:03:50,280 –> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: dude credit. Fireball California, I love it, FFA. But this team,
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01:03:55,840 –> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo team, now faces a new pressure of New
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Speaker 1: England rightning to push away from them. Yeah, somebody’s not
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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs in the AFC, probably going
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Speaker 1: to be Jacksonville, but somebody’s not gonna make it.
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Speaker 5: And Buffalo’s got to win a certain way.
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Speaker 1: That the way they’re constructed this year, and they’ve got
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Speaker 1: to get pressure with those outside guys if and that’s
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Speaker 1: how they got us, truthfully.
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Speaker 5: But I mean, those guys had the.
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Speaker 1: Game their lives. Joy Bosa was great, Michael Hoyt before
1379
01:04:21,760 –> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: he got injured was great.
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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: But they’ve got to win a certain way. Not they’re
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Speaker 1: in peril of losing to anybody any week.
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Speaker 6: All Right, gentlemen, Matt, you got a final thought for.
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Speaker 4: Us this week?
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Speaker 3: I do.
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Speaker 2: So I’ve been doing this whole like family and football
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01:04:35,400 –> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: thing lately just by coincidence. You know, my parents are
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01:04:39,800 –> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: at the Bills game a couple of weeks ago, had
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Speaker 2: an amazing time despite the result, like that was a
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01:04:45,360 –> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: huge bummer, but otherwise, like they had so much fun
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Speaker 2: being in the front row, you know, in Buffalo ritting
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Speaker 2: on the Chiefs and kind of a similar deal this week.
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Speaker 2: So those that have been listening to DTK for a
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Speaker 2: long time know that my wife comes from a family
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Speaker 2: of Broncos fans. She has since obviously converted, but her dad,
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Speaker 2: her mom maybe to a lesser extent her mom, but
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Speaker 2: her dad and definitely her brother are still big time
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Speaker 2: Broncos fans.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Well, they circled this game quite a while ago, before
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Speaker 2: we even knew the Broncos were going to be this competitive,
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01:05:14,920 –> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: and said, Ellie, would you want to come out to
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Speaker 2: the game and watch the game in the stands. So
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Speaker 2: we planned on that and it’s happening. So Ellie is
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Speaker 2: going to this game in Chiefs gear with her Bronco family,
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Speaker 2: and I’m just I won’t actually be obviously in the
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Speaker 2: crowd with them going to try to go say hi beforehand.
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Speaker 2: But I do think there will be a moment when
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Speaker 2: this game’s going on, and you know, Mahomes makes a
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Speaker 2: big play or something, and my father in law and
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Speaker 2: his Broncos gear is going to look at his daughter
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Speaker 2: that previously had no interest in going to NFL games,
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Speaker 2: is with him at this Chiefs Broncos game wearing Chiefs gear,
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Speaker 2: cheering on the Chiefs, and that brings me joy. So anyway,
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Speaker 2: the good people of Denver, please be nice to my wife.
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Speaker 2: She will be in chief S gear in the stands,
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Speaker 2: and hopefully she is the happy one leaving the game
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Speaker 2: and not my in loss.
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Speaker 5: That’s my final thought. All It’s scripture.
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Speaker 1: A man should leave his mother and his father and
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Speaker 1: they two shall become one.
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Speaker 5: So sorry, Ellie, you left all that behind.
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Speaker 1: Matt’s hoping to get a little money out of the deal,
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Speaker 1: and I got a feeling that we’re losing some equity there.
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Speaker 5: So this is just just a tough deal for this guy.
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Speaker 6: I love it. What do you got for me? Mitch?
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Speaker 6: You have a final thought.
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Speaker 1: Only that I need you to pan up a bit
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Speaker 1: because you’re at North Africa and if we pan up.
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Speaker 1: We’re going to find Germany. What’s been crazy about the
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Speaker 1: chief Kingdom Show? And I’ve told Matt this, I’m going
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Speaker 1: to start ripping off names next week. We have had
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Speaker 1: Germans that come to the home games and stay for
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom Show. We’ve had at least sixteen over
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Speaker 1: the past like three weeks when we’ve had home games.
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Speaker 1: It’s amazing. The whole world’s Team German thing is real.
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Speaker 1: These fans come here for a pilgrimage and they want
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Speaker 1: to stay. They want to soak in everything they can
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Speaker 1: about the Chiefs before they go home.
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Speaker 5: It’s been kind of fun.
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Speaker 6: That is awesome. I did five years of NFL Europe
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Speaker 6: and by far the games in Germany was the best
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01:07:04,720 –> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 6: experience I had. Frankfurt was incredible, the Ryan Fire played
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01:07:09,040 –> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: in ducend Or some incredible moments. And then my very
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Speaker 6: last thought, Mitch, I know you’re one of the busiest
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Speaker 6: guys on the planet, and you also, to me are
1447
01:07:16,280 –> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 6: one of the funniest guys on the planet. But today
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01:07:18,480 –> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 6: you’re comedic timing better than ever. If you can find
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Speaker 6: an open mic night tonight, I think that night. I
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Speaker 6: think it’s your night, Mitch. It’s it’s it’s just going today.
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Speaker 6: I’m feeling the love, gentlemen. Always a pleasure. Let’s go
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Speaker 6: Chiefs take down the Broncos. And that’s going to do
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Speaker 6: it for out West this week.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Ari, it keeps uh. He never sleeps. He
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01:07:39,320 –> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: just is always very vigilant about the AFC West. I
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01:07:42,640 –> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: want to close out this way because this uh talking
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01:07:46,400 –> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: about the critical nature of this game, not a must win,
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01:07:48,640 –> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: but a critical game. Is I went back during the
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01:07:51,720 –> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: bye week and looked at something and I gotta give
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01:07:53,360 –> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: Dan and Hughes, my partner on the Chief Radio network,
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01:07:55,880 –> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: credit about this because he he opened up the question.
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01:07:58,680 –> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: Then it sends me down a rabbit hole. This is
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01:08:00,400 –> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: the life you and I live. Hey, what about blah blah?
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01:08:03,000 –> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: You don’t you go Okay, I’m going to spend the
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01:08:04,600 –> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: next hours to look at it. The double dip. I
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01:08:08,600 –> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: call it the double dip, and it’s the wrap around.
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01:08:10,880 –> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: It’s getting the chance to have the last possession of
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01:08:13,760 –> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: the first half, in the first possession of the third quarter,
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01:08:17,640 –> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: first possession of second half. The Chiefs this year five
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Speaker 1: and four nine games, they have won the toss seven
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01:08:24,600 –> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: times in those nine games because Danen goes well I
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01:08:28,479 –> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: think we were better last year in the double dip.
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01:08:30,520 –> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at it. No, we weren’t.
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01:08:32,479 –> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: We won the toss ten times, lost it ten times.
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01:08:34,760 –> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: So it really wasn’t any direct thing to differentiate of
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01:08:37,840 –> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: what the gut the Chiefs to fifteen and two by
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01:08:39,760 –> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: being great in double dips this year, it means everything
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01:08:42,920 –> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: everything hear me out on this. There have been five
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01:08:45,680 –> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: times and the five wins, I should say, so that’s
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01:08:48,479 –> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: ten occasions that you’ve got the double dip. I can
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01:08:51,479 –> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: either score at the end of the second quarter the
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01:08:53,200 –> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: start of the third. In the five wins, the Chiefs
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01:08:55,560 –> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: have seven touchdowns and one field goal. That’s eight of
1484
01:08:59,040 –> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: the ten. In the three losses that would be six
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01:09:02,600 –> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: zero touchdowns, one field goal and four to three and outs.
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01:09:05,439 –> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: Wow.
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01:09:06,479 –> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: So it is sometimes you do a hypothesis and you
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01:09:09,720 –> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: do the research and go, mamp, this doesn’t work. This
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01:09:12,320 –> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: one is exactly that the Chiefs when they win are
1490
01:09:16,800 –> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: maximizing those critical drives, especially in the double dip, and
1491
01:09:22,160 –> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: when they’re losing they’re not. It’s been pretty.
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01:09:24,880 –> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Much that black and white, and it’s not like in
1493
01:09:28,360 –> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: those games that they’ve lost. It’s not like they come
1494
01:09:30,280 –> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: out of halftime and drive down and eventually they drive sputters.
1495
01:09:33,960 –> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: It’s the three and outs. And that’s what’s interesting is
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01:09:36,200 –> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have one of the lower three and out
1497
01:09:38,120 –> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: percentages in the NFL. The Chiefs really don’t go three
1498
01:09:40,560 –> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: and out often. But we’ve talked about on the franchise
1499
01:09:44,640 –> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago about how like momentum is real
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01:09:46,960 –> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Well, momentum is real when you come
1501
01:09:49,720 –> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: out of halftime, you need to go down and score
1502
01:09:51,560 –> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: some points to either get back into it or to
1503
01:09:53,280 –> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: put it away in the case of Jacksonville, and you
1504
01:09:55,880 –> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: go three and out and you punk the ball back
1505
01:09:57,880 –> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: to the other team and they have all the momentum
1506
01:09:59,520 –> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: in the world. The Jacksonville game is such a great
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01:10:02,000 –> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: example of this because the Chiefs had that game like
1508
01:10:04,840 –> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: it felt like the Chiefs were up by a bunch
1509
01:10:06,720 –> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: and they come out of halftime I think, still up
1510
01:10:09,240 –> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: a touchdown, trying to kind of just create that distance,
1511
01:10:12,720 –> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: and they go three and out and punt the ball
1512
01:10:14,520 –> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville and the rest is history. Kind of the
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01:10:17,240 –> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: same deal in Buffalo, where an opportunity to go down
1514
01:10:20,080 –> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: there and get back into it and you’re not able
1515
01:10:22,960 –> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 2: to we have to wait until the fourth quarter to
1516
01:10:24,720 –> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 2: really get things rolling. The Chiefs have been so good
1517
01:10:27,600 –> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: offensively generally speaking, this year, and there’s a few situational
1518
01:10:31,720 –> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: things in the games that they’ve lost that are so
1519
01:10:33,520 –> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: uncharacteristic that have led to those losses. I’m hopeful that
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01:10:37,200 –> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: with a full week kind of self scout to get
1521
01:10:40,000 –> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: recharged once again, to get healthy, they can go out
1522
01:10:42,479 –> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: there and be the offense we know they can be,
1523
01:10:44,320 –> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: and if they win the toss, it’s hopefully sandwiched halftime
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01:10:47,040 –> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: with a couple of touchdowns.
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01:10:49,479 –> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: It may be obvious to think, well, the last two
1526
01:10:51,439 –> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: minutes of a game that’s so critical. What may not
1527
01:10:54,720 –> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: be as obvious is there are critical junctures at other
1528
01:10:58,880 –> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: parts of the game. Last drive of the second quarter,
1529
01:11:01,520 –> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: first drive of the third, especially if you get both
1530
01:11:04,720 –> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: of those possessions. You and I don’t play Madden, but
1531
01:11:06,720 –> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: we play college football. When you play Madden or college football,
1532
01:11:11,520 –> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: it comes to life because you’re going, I get the
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01:11:13,120 –> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: ball right back, so.
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01:11:14,760 –> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: You need it when you’re in New Mexico State playing
1535
01:11:16,439 –> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: Georgia on the road big time.
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01:11:18,000 –> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Manhattan Project. The point here is critical game.
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01:11:23,320 –> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: It’ll be full of critical moments both obvious and not
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01:11:27,439 –> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: so obvious.



