“The 53 – Wet Cement” | Defending the Kingdom 8/31

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Vantage on the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: to this game, they can play touched out Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs all right in the thick of it. Baby,

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Speaker 1: you wanted it, you asked for it, You’re getting it.

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Speaker 1: Another edition of Defending the Kingdom. Hi, everybody on Mitchelter’s

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs, along with senior team reporter himself,

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Speaker 1: Matt McMullen. Matt’s great job, by the way, on the

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Speaker 1: preseason games on the sideline. Thanks. Yeah, that’s a real

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Speaker 1: thrill doing that as a kid that grew up watching

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Speaker 1: those preseason broadcasts. To get to hang out with Trent

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Speaker 1: Green and do those games with him, and to be

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Speaker 1: on the sideline, it’s pretty awesome. We went on Trent’s

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Speaker 1: boat the night before, like for a preseason dinner, and

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Speaker 1: the entire time I was on the boat just talking

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Speaker 1: to him thinking how did I get here? But it

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I appreciate you saying that I had

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Speaker 1: that same feeling twenty four seasons with Len Dawson, and

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Speaker 1: to lose Land last week, of course, was very very difficult,

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Speaker 1: but I had that same feeling so many times because,

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Speaker 1: as I said on the opening of the broadcast in

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Speaker 1: the game against Green Bay is an eight year old.

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Speaker 1: I’d watch half the game, and then my farm would

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Speaker 1: magically turn into municipal stadium, and I’d have my stenciled

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Speaker 1: sixteen jersey and I would magically been Lendawson. And then

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Speaker 1: for twenty four magic years, I was on his side.

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Speaker 1: So I understand that feeling, all right. The other feeling

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Speaker 1: here is what we’re calling this edition, the fifty three

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Speaker 1: wet Cement. Now I have to ask you a question

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Speaker 1: before we get into around the world. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: poor cement? I did not know. I was a camp

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Speaker 1: counselor when I was in high school. Never poored cement though, Well,

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Speaker 1: so I did it one summer working for a man

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Speaker 1: named Steve Levine. He’s a huge Chiefs fan. I’m not

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Speaker 1: sure where he’s at now. He’s like in the witch

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Speaker 1: Tire area, Kensington, Kansas. Great great family. But we poured cement,

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Speaker 1: made a base and put up metal buildings and grain bends.

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Speaker 1: But it was fascinating and very interesting work. Intricate work,

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Speaker 1: I should say. So you pour it, you trowl it,

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Speaker 1: you know, your massage a little bit. Sometimes we had

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Speaker 1: to put in bolts, but it was then wet, and

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Speaker 1: once you had it done, you kind of had it

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Speaker 1: trialed and ruffed where you’re going to rough it. You

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Speaker 1: had forms around it, and then you let it set

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Speaker 1: and you hope some dog like your dog Pip wouldn’t

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Speaker 1: run across it because it would just destroy everything. And

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Speaker 1: then we also know that there are places like you

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Speaker 1: do it in a backyard, but your kids put their

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Speaker 1: handprint in it, right, and you look at it fifty

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Speaker 1: years later, and like, look at Matt’s handprint from long ago.

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Speaker 1: But this is what cement. The Chiefs have announced their

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster four now for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: We always anticipate this day. It’s a day of man.

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Speaker 1: There’s just so much excitement, but there’s also so much

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Speaker 1: sadness because so many guys get cut or waved or released.

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Speaker 1: And we’re gonna get into the definition of all that.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into our wet cement, and it

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Speaker 1: is wet, so don’t step on it or have your

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Speaker 1: dog run across it. Let’s go around the world before

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Speaker 1: we do anything. Yeah, let’s do it. So as always

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Speaker 1: the teen names and places people all over the place

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Speaker 1: listening to defending the Kingdom. So that’s for the thirteen seconds, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can get a lot done in thirteen

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Speaker 1: second you sure can. Yeah, And we’re keeping this going here.

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Speaker 1: So thirteen names in places. We have Michael, who is

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Speaker 1: originally from Springfield, Missouri, but he’s now in Winona, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He declares that Chief’s Kingdom Driftless, which if

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Speaker 1: you know that area, that area is called the Driftless Area.

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Speaker 1: That’s right on the Mississippi River. One on a state university.

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Speaker 1: He actually works there. Oh, he’s a professor there. Yeah, tastic,

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Speaker 1: it’s a shout out to Michael. We’ve got Josh and Salina, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: He sent me a picture of his bulldozer and there’s

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Speaker 1: a chief’s helmet like right by the controls of the bulldozer.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, So Kingdom Defender on his bulldozer

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Speaker 1: out in Salina. We’ve got Bruce in Bowling Green, Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: on this show anyway, no kidding, Ken in Nairobi, Kenya,

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Speaker 1: Rodney and Marshall, Missouri, Pedro and South Palma, Missouri Valley College.

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Speaker 1: These are all college towns. Yeah, just keep Robia. I

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Speaker 1: got Austin in Boise, Idaho. Yeah. So he started watching

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs because his fiance’s parents lived in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: He didn’t have a team and just decided to watch

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And he says he thinks he made the

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Speaker 1: right decision. You see how evangelism works. That comes always

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Speaker 1: shape or form right through work or usually through ladies. Right.

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Speaker 1: So that’s how he was evangelized to the kingdom. I

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Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, and he’s not the only one from

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Speaker 1: people from Idaho listening. Not Napoleon Dynamite though, no, not yet. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and one of the most popular franchises, not just the

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Speaker 1: National Football League but in professional sports overall, and in

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Speaker 1: Idaho and in Idaho and the poet Uncle Rico, we

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Speaker 1: know we’re here from you. Next, the what cement of

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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster, meaning it’s the forms are poured.

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Speaker 1: Yes we’ve trailed it, but it’s still wet, so don’t

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Speaker 1: get into how fluid the fifty three can be, even

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Speaker 1: within a matter of days. And there’s some bits of

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Speaker 1: history here with the chiefs with it. But again, why

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Speaker 1: You said the word fluid, and that’s the best way

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Speaker 1: to describe this. We’re recording this on Tuesday. The roster

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Speaker 1: cuts just came out about an hour ago, and by

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Speaker 1: some moves have been made. That’s how fluid this truly is.

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Speaker 1: And the biggest distinction to know that we’re going to

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Speaker 1: being released. And there’s a big distinction. If you go

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Speaker 1: have to go to that team based on the waiver

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Speaker 1: order and all of that. But if you’re waived, essentially

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Speaker 1: other teams can claim you. If you are released, and

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Speaker 1: players that are released are veterans that have been around

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Speaker 1: So that’s an important thing. To know when you see

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Speaker 1: players that are waived, they’ll go through the whole system.

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Speaker 1: Teams will make their claims. You can find some good

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Speaker 1: we’ll see what happens over the next two days. But

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Speaker 1: even waived injured. Matt Bushman here, I think has been

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Speaker 1: waved injured. He was the tight end, had the two

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Speaker 1: and then was injured. Later he’s been waived injured, but

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Speaker 1: being fluid and the wave versus injured. In coach reads

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Speaker 1: first year, are you alluded to it? On a Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs had the first waiver position. They were the worst

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Speaker 1: of all the waive guys. The Chiefs had the first pick. Basically,

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Speaker 1: Seven after the Western Series. But seven guys thought they

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Speaker 1: seven other Wave players, and Ron Parker was one of those.

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Speaker 1: I mean there were guys out of the they were

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Speaker 1: they were key in a nine and oh start in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. So the other one a story. Just bear

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Speaker 1: with me here, indulge me here to Kingdom Defenders, this

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Speaker 1: is how it can be cruel. The kickoff luncheon is

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Speaker 1: a big deal. I get to announced the team to

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Speaker 1: a crowd of I don’t know a thousand people in

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Speaker 1: the community and coach Read and Brett Beach talk and

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Speaker 1: some of the team leaders. But it was a win.

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Speaker 1: Still more, Marty Schottenhammer is still coach. And a guy

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Speaker 1: named Bjorn Nittmo was a kicker who had come from nowhere.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs were just auditioning kickers like crazy, and he

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Speaker 1: announcing the team. Marty Schottenheimer goes, we just cut were

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Speaker 1: just cutting it, man. We just traded for Pete Stoyanovitch

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Speaker 1: and we’re gonna I gotta go tell that guy he’s

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Speaker 1: cut after he thought, you know, it was his birthday party.

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Speaker 1: So it’s how cruel these can be. So I you

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Speaker 1: and I are both not callous to this. We get

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Speaker 1: to know these guys and it’s just like any of

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Speaker 1: you lost your job. It’s it’s very, very difficult. So

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Speaker 1: the waved release thing is very important to understand, and

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Speaker 1: you did an awesome job explaining it. The other thing

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Speaker 1: to understand here is practice squad because a lot of

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Speaker 1: the players who are waved are released can be on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. But the practice squad rules COVID really

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Speaker 1: changed it a lot, because now to practice squad has

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Speaker 1: truly become kind of a developmental area. I call it

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Speaker 1: the croc pot. Right, put guys in the croc pot

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Speaker 1: the emmer and they come out and they can be

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Speaker 1: great players. But there’s also veteran players that can go

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Speaker 1: so quickly. The practice squad rules sixteen players on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Most ever, they’ve made this rule in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Think of six over ten. Here you can have six

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Speaker 1: players with unlimited experience in the National Football League. Let’s

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Speaker 1: what’s so great about the Chiefs is they still keep

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Speaker 1: tabs and all these guys and even though he was hurt,

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Speaker 1: he went undrafted, but they assigned him as an undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent. Following the draft, he spent all year last

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Speaker 1: year in this building, rehabbing, studying the playbook, trying to

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Speaker 1: prepare himself mentally, doing everything he could without actually physically

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Speaker 1: doing anything on the field. He had his first opportunity

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Speaker 1: to take the field during rookie Minicamp and he was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I was texting you, I was like, Malik Harring is

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Speaker 1: bawling out at rookie Minicamp, Like good for him his

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Speaker 1: first opportunity, and then he clearly showed something throughout training

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Speaker 1: camp but during the preseason where he made this roster.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta think for Malik Harring, this was a

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Speaker 1: very adverse, difficult situation and we don’t know what the

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Speaker 1: future will hold for him, but at least to make

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Speaker 1: this opening fifty three like he did says a lot

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Speaker 1: about him, So good for him. Let me add two

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Speaker 1: onto that list that you’ve got to the defensive guys

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Speaker 1: that have made it on our wet cement fifty three

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Speaker 1: is Joshua Williams at corner because he’s kind of the

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Speaker 1: young and yang of Jalen Watson, but a Division two player.

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Speaker 1: Kime int of no ra HBCUs School. Division two guys

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Speaker 1: can make it, they thrive in this league, they can

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Speaker 1: make it. Division three guys have become Pro football Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers, doesn’t matter the level that you play at.

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Speaker 1: And to see him and the athletic talent, in fact,

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Speaker 1: I just saw him. We had a little chat before

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Speaker 1: we started this episode of Defending the Kingdom, but to

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Speaker 1: see he and a Jalen Watson basically just climb up

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Speaker 1: as a seventh rounder and as a Division two player.

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Speaker 1: His heart is good to see. Let me throw in

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Speaker 1: another one, and you mentioned kind of Malik Herring hanging in.

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Speaker 1: Colin Saunders deserves some mention. Yeah, out of Western Illinois.

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Speaker 1: This is his fourth year with the team. He was

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Speaker 1: on the twenty nineteen Super Bowl team, got hurt and

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Speaker 1: then it was like on the brink of is he

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Speaker 1: going to make it or not make it? He came

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Speaker 1: back this summer in spring and in training camp in

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Speaker 1: Saint Joseph as such a force and in the preseason

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Speaker 1: games he flashed and like, Colin is back because we

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Speaker 1: knew it. Western Illinois was a splendid athlete running slot

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Speaker 1: receiver as a defensive three hundred plus pound lineman. But

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Speaker 1: those two guys come to mind as well in making

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Speaker 1: the wet cement fifty three. All right, let’s go to

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Speaker 1: the offensive side and then we’ll close this out. And

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side a few interesting things too. In

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Speaker 1: the category that you were talking about, Justin Watson becomes

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Speaker 1: a guy that, okay, played four years with Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: mostly special team snaps, but there was enough there that

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Speaker 1: you’re going, hey, what’s this guy like? And Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: tipped us off early on from his workhouts in Fort

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Speaker 1: Worth back in April that who is this guy? And

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Speaker 1: how fast? There’s only five wide receivers on the wet

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Speaker 1: Cement fifty three. He’s the fifth. But really good player.

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Speaker 1: He showed up in the preseason games, obviously, the plays

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Speaker 1: against Chicago and others, the big play against Washington, flashing

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Speaker 1: in those games. So that comes to mind. The running

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Speaker 1: back situation is really interesting, and your seventh round pick

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Speaker 1: here that jumps up off the page. Two seventh round

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Speaker 1: picks made the wet Cement fifty three, and Isaiah Pacheco

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Speaker 1: is an incredible story, having both his brother and his

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Speaker 1: sister who is really close to both murdered in separate instances.

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Speaker 1: Stayed at Rutgers, he could have transferred, had never been

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Speaker 1: to a National Football League game until he played at one.

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Speaker 1: But here he is making the wet Cement fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster, and he, to me is the Jalen Watson

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Speaker 1: story of the offense. Yeah, because you take a player

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Speaker 1: like Isaiah Pacheco looking at his athletic traits, what you

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Speaker 1: remember about him when you met with him and interviewed him,

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Speaker 1: but you really you can’t know. You don’t know he’s

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, and it says a lot that

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Speaker 1: both him and Jaleen Watson were able to make this

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Speaker 1: team because this isn’t a situation where the Chiefs had

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Speaker 1: a bunch of draft picks and they’re all probably going

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Speaker 1: to make it because we need all the talent that

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Speaker 1: we can find. This is a really good team with

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Speaker 1: a lot of players competing for roster spots, veterans competing

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Speaker 1: for roster spots, and it says a lot about both

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Speaker 1: Jalen and Isaiah that despite all the competition on a

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Speaker 1: team like the Chiefs, who has been to four straight

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Speaker 1: conference title games, that they were able to make it

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Speaker 1: and they’re gonna help us win this year. Ten draft

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Speaker 1: picks nine made the wet cement fifty three. That is crazy.

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Speaker 1: So you’ve got twenty percent of your team basically that

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Speaker 1: are rookies and they will be all over the field

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Speaker 1: in Week one against the Arizona Cardinals. Another guy that

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Speaker 1: deserves mentioned here’s Nick Elligretty. I thought he made a

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Speaker 1: big jump in his career during this offseason. In this

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Speaker 1: training camp, he allowed the chief He gives you that

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Speaker 1: center guard combo. So if something would happen to Creed Humphrey.

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Speaker 1: Let’s hope that doesn’t happen. Nick Elligretty gives you every

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Speaker 1: confidence that he could play center because the Chiefs kept

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Speaker 1: nine offensive linemen in the wet Cement fifty three. But

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Speaker 1: of those four backups, we know who the starters are.

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Speaker 1: But of the four backups, three are tackles, really and

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Speaker 1: because Darian Crnard made it to this point and one

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Speaker 1: of the nine draft picks, but the others are really

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Speaker 1: tackles that don’t play guard. But that’s why Nick Ellighready’s

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Speaker 1: so important to this team. He’s the ultimate Swiss army

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Speaker 1: knife on this offensive line we are watching in OTAs.

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Speaker 1: When he would go in for one snap at every

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Speaker 1: single position and just keep rotating through it shows how

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Speaker 1: versatile he is. He’s the ultimate chess piece for Andy

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Speaker 1: Heck and for coach Read. One other guy to mention

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Speaker 1: because he deserves it is Shane Bouschell. Yeah. So Shane

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Speaker 1: Bouchell as a quarterback is in a tough situation where

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Speaker 1: the quarterback here in Kansas City is the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and he ain’t going anywhere, and he’s

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere now. And the backup is Chad Henny,

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Speaker 1: who has been around forever. He’s essentially an extension of

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff, I think, and when called upon. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he went in a playoff game and threw

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Speaker 1: the ball on the fourth down in the division around

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Speaker 1: of the postseason, so he’s shown what he can do

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Speaker 1: as a backup. It’s a tough situation for Shane Bouchell

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Speaker 1: because he has to show that he is invaluable. He

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Speaker 1: has to show that I am a young player who

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Speaker 1: can really grow in this offense and you have to

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Speaker 1: keep me around. And to his credit, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: showed that in the preseason. His preseason numbers. He completed

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Speaker 1: thirty one of fifty one passes for three hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty five yards three touchdowns. He had a passer rating

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Speaker 1: north of one thirty five against the Packers. So you

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Speaker 1: hope that Shane Bouchell never has to play in a

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Speaker 1: regular season game, But with Chad Henny getting older, you

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Speaker 1: hope that maybe Shane Bouchell can be that guy who’s

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Speaker 1: that backup for ten years behind Patrick Mahomes. You want

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Speaker 1: them to have that relationship and you want Shane Bouchell

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Speaker 1: eventually to be an extension of the coaching staff. And

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Speaker 1: to his credit, at least so far, I think he’s

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Speaker 1: shown that that he’s going to be in an invaluable

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Speaker 1: part of that quarterback room moving forward. So good for

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Speaker 1: Shane for making this team. And he did it two

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Speaker 1: years in a row because that Lasher’s preseason, he had

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Speaker 1: the rally against Arizona and he proved that he could

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Speaker 1: win games, and then he backed it up this year

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Speaker 1: with an even better performance. So tip of the captain

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Speaker 1: Shane Bouchell, who could take Chase Daniels seminar on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: can make generational wealth by being a backup quarterback for

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. He’s a charger though. I just can’t eat

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Speaker 1: anyway he was here. I love that guy called the

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Speaker 1: governor of two states at one time. So the forms

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Speaker 1: are up, the cement’s been poured, we’ve even had the

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Speaker 1: trial out. We’ve trialed it. Just don’t touch it because

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Speaker 1: the cement is still wet. He’s Matt McMullen. I’m Mitch

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Speaker 1: holt Is. It’s time to start this season and stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Touch down and the celebration begins in their handk