šŸŽ™ļø ‘It’s a One-Game Season’ – Chiefs vs. Colts Preview w/ Kareem Hunt | Defending the Kingdom

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Senior Team Reporter Matt McMullen break down the Chiefs’ upcoming matchup with the Indianapolis Colts, plus Kareem Hunt joins the show! Ari Wolfe also stops by to talk through some storylines from around the AFC West and the NFL as a whole.

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Speaker 1: It’s no secret the Chiefs are now five and five

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Speaker 1: on the season, plus the Indianapolis Cults are arguably the

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Speaker 1: most surprising team of the twenty twenty five season in

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL. It’s those two teams that will meet

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Speaker 1: at noon at Geha Field at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It’s the start of a one game season and this

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Speaker 1: edition at depending the Kingdom, like them all, is presented

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Speaker 1: by Ticketmaster, who could be your new best friend or

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Speaker 1: your old best friend as it were, for your ticket

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Speaker 1: needs Moms over the middle past Cot and it’s caught

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Speaker 1: by Kelsey, Inside the Town, inside the Fun, Kelsey Libs, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: duos of the city, however you want. I’m Mitchelta’s voice

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen,

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Speaker 1: and here we are and people can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We see graphics go up. The Chiefs are out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, so the ninth seed, you know they’re not

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Speaker 1: gonna make it. It’s over. So let’s just boil it

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Speaker 1: down because you can have all those discussions and really,

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Speaker 1: when you get it down to the bottom, it is

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Speaker 1: a one game season. This is a one game season.

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Speaker 1: With the Colts. People get tired of cliches, you know,

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Speaker 1: play one game at a time. Well this was one

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Speaker 1: game at a time, a one game season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so not where we expected to be when the

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Speaker 2: season began, right, five and five, Not at all where

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Speaker 2: we thought this team would be at this point in

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Speaker 2: the year. But yeah, everything is still right in front

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Speaker 2: of them. It’s just a matter of attacking every single

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Speaker 2: game and finishing this thing out.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are right in the thick right now of

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Speaker 2: this wild card chase, right, and there’s a lot of

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Speaker 2: teams in the middle of it. Well, if we take

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Speaker 2: care of our own business, I’m confident the Chiefs will

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Speaker 2: get to where they need to go at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year. But you’re right, we can’t really think

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Speaker 2: too far ahead. We talked about this on rewind. You know,

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Speaker 2: it’s been fun as Chiefs fans over the last several years.

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Speaker 2: At this point in the year, we’re like eight and

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Speaker 2: two or nine and one or whatever it may be,

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Speaker 2: and you’re looking at playoff positioning like, oh, I’m rooting

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Speaker 2: against the Bills, I want the Chiefs to get the

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Speaker 2: one seed, or rooting against the Ravens. All that that’s

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Speaker 2: fun well for the Chiefs. Right now, we can’t really

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Speaker 2: think too much about that.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 2: It’s about let’s win this week and then after this

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Speaker 2: game we’ll talk about the next game after that. I

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Speaker 2: think that’s kind of where our focus needs to be,

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Speaker 2: and that’s what we’ll talk about here today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there’s thirty other NFL teams in the league. They

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Speaker 1: don’t matter. It’s just the Colts and Chiefs in a

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Speaker 1: boil it down a common denominator here for this game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. So before we dive in to the Colts

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Speaker 1: and Chiefs in this one game season, let’s go around

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 2: Let’s do it. Got a handful for you today. So

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Speaker 2: we have seven actually seven.

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Speaker 1: All right, Harrison Bucker game winning field goal. I like it.

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Speaker 2: We have a listener in El Paso, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, nears Bliss’s Fort Bliss Baby.

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Speaker 2: So Paul is in southern New Hampshire near Nashua. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever been to New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: I’ve not, but it is on the bucket list. Nothing

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Speaker 1: north of Boston, but yes, I’m taking my point guard

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Speaker 2: Sure it’s beautiful. Paul has been a fan since you’re

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Speaker 2: nine years old too. Yep, gotta go, gotta check it out.

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Speaker 2: But he was nine years old watching Super Bowl four.

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Speaker 2: Been a fan ever since. Shout out to you, Paul

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Speaker 2: could so. Last week I mentioned I met a couple

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Speaker 2: of Kingdom defenders at the current playoff game, but I

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Speaker 2: wasn’t able to write their names down. They reached out,

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Speaker 2: so their names are Casey and Brie. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: you both. Was great meeting you both. We’re in kind

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Speaker 2: of a tough stretch right now where the Current lost

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Speaker 2: like a heartbreaking game and essentially double overtime, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: losing a heartbreaker to the Broncos. We’re going to get

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Speaker 2: this thing back on track in all facets, everybody, but

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Speaker 2: just stick with us. But shout out to Casey and Bri.

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Speaker 2: Jen is in Colorado Springs, been a fan since nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: They obviously have to deal with a lot of Bronco

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Speaker 2: fandom and their family, something I relate to with my

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Speaker 2: in laws. Ellie had a great time until the game

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Speaker 2: was decided, but she was like high five and Chiefs fans.

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Speaker 2: She yelled home of the Chiefs at the end of

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Speaker 2: the anthem at the game. But you know, I think

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Speaker 2: Ellie’s conversion if it wasn’t if it was like ninety

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Speaker 2: now because her and I are texting after the game

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Speaker 2: and she’s like, man, I hate the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: That’s it. That’s one hundred percent. We’ve made her.

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Speaker 2: We’ve made it a to one hundred percent. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Ellie had a good experience minus the result of the game.

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Speaker 1: And love is such a beautiful thing, man, it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know what, here’s the thing is the

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Speaker 2: important thing here is even though the Chiefs lost that game,

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Speaker 2: Ellie was holding her head high in her Chiefs gear

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Speaker 2: walking out amongst all those Bronco fans and they’re screaming

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Speaker 2: her head, and you know, well, to see where this

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Speaker 2: thing goes, I’ll just leave it at that. I heard

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Speaker 2: from Alec in Brighton, United Kingdom. He said that sometime

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Speaker 2: in the fifties, his aunt moved to Kansas City from

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Speaker 2: London and settled in Platte City. Kind of interesting. He

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Speaker 2: then first visited Kansas City in twenty fourteen to kind

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Speaker 2: of meet all these cousins that he had right that

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Speaker 2: he had never met before, and over the years he’s

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Speaker 2: become a big Chiefs fan, and the Chiefs are kind

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Speaker 2: of like this glue for these two parts of this family,

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Speaker 2: and it’s a pretty special thing. So that was awesome,

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Speaker 2: A great hearing from you. Alec Ryan is listening from Gretna, Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Sure you’ve been up the Dragons Dragons.

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Speaker 2: I’m glad you mentioned that. He mentioned that last Friday

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Speaker 2: was a playoff game between the Gretna Dragons and the

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Speaker 2: Gretna East New School.

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Speaker 1: Uh don’t know new School. These New Schools now, I

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta work on him. That’s a huge area

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Speaker 1: of growth. So the Greton East, I don’t know, is

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Speaker 1: there got to be something that’s with a G it’s

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Speaker 1: good they.

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Speaker 2: I don’t know the Gargoyles that that would be great better.

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Speaker 2: So it’s the Griffins that works. Yeah, the Griffins and

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Speaker 2: Gretna East one.

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Speaker 1: On TNKA hih in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Western Yeah, there’s Griffins fifty five thirty four love it.

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Speaker 1: Never leth there’s all birds of prey. All the five

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Speaker 1: schools are birds of prey.

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Speaker 2: I didn’t know that.

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Speaker 1: And they all have to be blue, okay, all different

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Speaker 1: shades of blue. And they also be a bird of prey.

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Speaker 1: So if you’re the Gretna Dragons, why not have like

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Speaker 1: the Gretna East Griffins. Griffins, Yeah, because you’re kind of

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Speaker 1: in that, like it’s like a mythical Threatuer begins the

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Speaker 1: g So, Yeah, gargoyles would be good.

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Speaker 2: Gretton is a great air So I heard from Kendall

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Speaker 2: and Karen. So Kendall went to Salina Central the Mustangs.

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Speaker 1: They just had a gigantic win in the playoffs against

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Speaker 1: the Salina South Cougar’s.

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Speaker 2: All right, big game. And then Karen went to Great Bend.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers and they are loaded. It is also the

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Speaker 1: alma mater of Meghan McMullen. No relation to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Rita Hunt Lamar Hunt Junior’s wife is a great

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Speaker 1: Ben Panther, and so is my daughter in law. Emily

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Speaker 1: bower Holt just doctor Emily Barwerholt, just the best obg

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Speaker 1: y n in the Chiefe Kingdom. All great Ben Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Terry Terry del Pivar scoutings. Yeah, he’s a great Ben Panther.

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Speaker 1: It’s a factory.

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Speaker 2: Apparently.

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Speaker 1: They also have the best player in Kansas this year, kid,

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Speaker 1: I Ian Premer. He’s going to a Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what position loaded?

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want him to be.

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Speaker 2: It’s like an athlete, Yeah, he’s an athlete probably. Well,

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Speaker 2: there you go. Kendall and Karen. So there they live

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Speaker 2: in Andover, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Home. Well, there’s two schools Okay Over Trojans is

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Speaker 1: the original one, but they’re also a high growth theory

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Speaker 1: like Greta, Nebraska. And then you have the Jaguars of

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Speaker 1: Andover Central Okay. Very cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, over the last three years, they’ve also followed along

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Speaker 2: from the island of Saint Martin sor a high school there.

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Speaker 1: I don’t know if there is, I’m gonna go visit it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: They also travel all over the world but have not

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Speaker 2: missed a game, despite where they might be and how

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Speaker 2: difficult it might be to catch the game. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: shout out to both of you. Also, one quick announcement,

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Speaker 2: So the Chiefs Kingdom Food Drive is now live, so

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Speaker 2: it’ll be for the Colts game. And if you’ve be

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Speaker 2: come into Chiefs games over the years, you know how

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Speaker 2: this works. There’ll be like bens outside of the stadium,

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Speaker 2: gates and if you want to bring non perishable food

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Speaker 2: items to donate to Harvesters and the twenty six counties

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Speaker 2: in Kansas and Missouri that Harvesters serves, you’ll be helping

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Speaker 2: some people out in our community. Also, if you’re not

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Speaker 2: coming to the game or not able to bring non

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Speaker 2: perishable food items, you can also donate online and that’s

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Speaker 2: live right now. You can just do it right now

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Speaker 2: if you want to check out Chiefs dot com slash

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Speaker 2: Food Drive Chiefs dot com slash Food Drive. All the

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Speaker 2: information is right there. Kansas City is good at a

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Speaker 2: lot of things. Winning football games is one of them,

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Speaker 2: but also helping out those in our community is one

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Speaker 2: of them as well. This helps thousands of people in

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Speaker 2: our community that are hungry during the holiday season, and

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Kingdom always comes out and helps them out. So

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Speaker 2: let’s do it once again.

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Speaker 1: Let’s do it. I’ve got an international group and I’ve

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Speaker 1: got a domestic group that I want to mention. The

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Speaker 1: international group are some of the folks that come to

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom shows from Germany. I mentioned him. Every week

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Speaker 1: they’ll come to a home game and then they stay

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Speaker 1: to go to the Kingdom Show. Frank Kopner from New Minst,

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Speaker 1: New Munster, Sasha Zentara from Ziegbrug near Cologne, Nick brings Schulte,

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Speaker 1: Brinks Schulte from Una. I think, let’s how you say it,

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Speaker 1: Andy Brinks Schulte from Menden, Menden, Christian Motor from Trier,

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Speaker 1: and Timo case Analyis from kol Germany. All Germans. Now,

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Speaker 1: are you familiar? Are do you like the Yellowstone trilogy?

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Speaker 2: So I’ve actually never watched it, I know.

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Speaker 1: And when you start on the list, No, once you

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Speaker 1: start eighteen eighty three, nineteen twenty three Yellowstone, we have

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Speaker 1: that in the Chief Kingdom. Okay, people don’t even know it.

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Speaker 1: it’s really Corning, Kansas, which is a ways out of Centralia.

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Speaker 1: But that’s who that’s the inertia for all of Centralia’s

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Speaker 2: Okay, they are the main characters right there, the main characters.

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Speaker 1: You go through all the generations and it’s the Tally Boys. Now,

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Speaker 1: Tally Boys. Okay. Reason I mentioned them is they are

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Speaker 1: die hard Chase fans, all of them. Wow. And I

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Speaker 1: Lots of prayers. But anyway, I saw the Tally Boys again.

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Speaker 1: they won the game, right, yeah, so hanging a banner.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to clear out, clear out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. They’re awesome, incredible family. Hannah is the

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Speaker 1: huge Chiefs fans and their Kingdom defenders. They they’re part

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Speaker 1: Way to go, Tally Boys. I’ve got to have you

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Speaker 1: against the Colts. We need their toughness. Yes, Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: is unreal. He’s putting up unreal numbers. He just had

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Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. Only three other people have done

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Speaker 1: he did against Atlanta in their game is overseas was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: But he’s been doing it now for a while. People

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Speaker 1: forget he led the NFL in rushing in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: He’s a legitimate MVP candidate based on how he’s playing

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Speaker 2: this year. Their offense is crazy. I mean, their numbers

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Speaker 2: They’re averaging thirty two points per game. They’ve scored at

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Speaker 2: least thirty points seven times this year. Did some research

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Speaker 2: on that. That’s the most of any team in the

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Speaker 2: ten games since twenty eighteen, when the Chiefs did it

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, but it’s still working for him. These

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Speaker 2: guys have the lowest three and a half percentage in

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Speaker 2: the league, third highest red zone touchdown percentage in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They lead the league in successful play rate and they

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Speaker 2: have the second fewest negative plays in the league. So

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Speaker 2: they’re staying ahead of the chains. They’re running the ball

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Speaker 2: really effectively. He talked about Taylor, how good he’s been.

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Speaker 2: He has twenty eight runs of double digit yardage that

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Speaker 2: hundred yards. So there’s a lot to talk about with

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Speaker 2: this Colts team. And Daniel Jones, who we’ll talk about,

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Speaker 2: has played very well.

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Speaker 1: But it all.

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Speaker 2: Begins with stopping the engine, and the engine as Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 2: if you want to feel better about this, this is

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Speaker 2: actually the third time this year the Chiefs will face

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Speaker 2: a team that comes in as the number one scoring

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Speaker 2: held them to only twenty points, and then Detroit a

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I think the Chiefs held them to nineteen points.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen points something like that, under twenty points. So the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs have been up for these games, got to be

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Speaker 2: up for this one because this Colts offense is no joke.

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Speaker 1: This will be the toughest of those three challenges. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it just so the most recent. You know a staff

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Speaker 1: that floored me when I looked at the Colts stats.

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Speaker 1: They are number one in quick strike drives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, different kind of way though.

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Speaker 1: Different way to do it, but they’ll score big touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and quick strike these aren’t you think with Jonathan Taylor?

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Speaker 1: These are seventeen play grind out, grinded out eighty five

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. We’re going to get into that. But the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs need toughness in this game. They need to have

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Speaker 1: He’s not Jonathan Taylor, but I’m going to tell you

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Speaker 1: right now, we wouldn’t have made the Super Bowl last

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Speaker 1: all right, with a big game coming up against the Colts,

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Speaker 1: the guy that does all the dirty work of what’s

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Speaker 1: required and he does it well. Kareem Hunt, what about

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Speaker 1: that role? Because I love it the way you’ve embraced it.

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Speaker 1: It’s like, what do you all need? I’ll give it

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Speaker 3: I mean, it’s one of those things that you know

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, I’m one of those guys

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Speaker 3: I take pride and do.

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Speaker 2: Kaream, You’ve played a lot of football in your career,

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Speaker 2: Because you confidence you guys can attack the final seven

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Speaker 3: Like I said, we have a bunch of guys who’ve

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Speaker 1: It seems like the more physical the game, the more

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Speaker 1: you love it. What about Hey, you can’t make it

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Speaker 3: No, definitely not. And that’s one thing I like to

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Speaker 3: and wearing the defense out and you know making you know,

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Speaker 3: making good blocks so Pat can get the ball off

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Speaker 3: and you know those other guys can make plays.

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Speaker 2: I think it’s so cool like you’ve taken advantage of

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Speaker 2: your opportunity here the second time around. I told you

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Speaker 2: in early September of last year that right now you

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Speaker 2: and all this. I mean, what would you say?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I probably wouldn’t believe it. But it’s just

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Speaker 3: being back here is another opportunity, so I get to

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Speaker 1: Quick question about the Colts opponent specific this defense maybe

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Speaker 3: Good front seven man, They got you know, guys who

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Speaker 3: playing as a team. They’re doing a great job man

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Speaker 2: It’s going to be noon at the stadium on a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: it’s going to be like fifty five degrees, like a

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Speaker 2: nice fall day. Is it a perfect kind of day

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Speaker 3: Do you think, oh, that’s a perfect type of day.

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Speaker 1: So how many carries you want?

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Speaker 3: As many as it take to get to win. So

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Speaker 3: that’s the only thing I care about is wins and losses?

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Speaker 1: Yeaes, sir, And why this guy is so valuable to

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways. I think he saved the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colts have more than Jonathan Taylor, and you

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Speaker 1: easy to do so, just like Pat or Celts on

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Speaker 1: our team. But they’re number three net passing yards. You

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year if we go, hey, you

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Speaker 1: think the Colts would be with Daniel Jones at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: This is a team and their offensive line, I’ve got

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Speaker 1: But then you look at Smith, who’s a right tackle

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Speaker 1: And then you look at Nelson the left guard. This

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Speaker 1: we have to we do the We’re cramming for the test, right.

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Speaker 1: Our personnel staff is that’s what they do all year long,

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Speaker 1: Our college personnel staff and pro personnel all working on it.

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Speaker 1: Matt and I basically crammed for the test. But one

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Speaker 1: guy that caught our attention that I think has made

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Speaker 1: all the difference in this team is Tyler Warren, the

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Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, okay, Travis Kelcey, let’s just put this

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Speaker 1: in perspective. Travis Kelcey has fifty catches for six hundred

419
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Speaker 1: and thirty one yards. Rookie Tyler Warren has fifty catches

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Speaker 1: six hundred and seventeen yards. Tyler Warren has had the

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Speaker 1: exact season to this point that Kelsey has. And so

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren to me, and you can throw in Alec Peirice,

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Speaker 1: you can throw in Michael Pittman junior. There’s just more

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Speaker 1: to this team than Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: They’re so physical, and you know, Chris Ballard, their GM,

426
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Speaker 2: obviously used to be here at the Chiefs years ago,

427
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Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, and I think his MO throughout

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Speaker 2: his time in Indianapolis, whether they were winning a lot

429
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Speaker 2: of games or not, is we are going to be

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Speaker 2: tough and physical. We’re going to build our team through

431
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Speaker 2: the offensive and defensive lines. They’ve certainly done that, but

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Speaker 2: I think that toughness kind of extends to their skill

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Speaker 2: position guys. Obviously Taylor, but also yeah, Michael Pittman and

434
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Speaker 2: Alec Pearce, like two guys who are well over six

435
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Speaker 2: foot two. They’re big, strong, physical, and if they’re going

436
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Speaker 2: to go up for a ball, you have to fight

437
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Speaker 2: them for it because they’re probably going to come down

438
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Speaker 2: with it. And Tyler Warren is an extension of that.

439
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Speaker 2: You know, there was a play in that game they

440
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Speaker 2: played against the Falcons overseas where I can’t remember the

441
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Speaker 2: exact situation, but it was kind of like a crunch

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Speaker 2: time for the Colts. It might have been like a

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Speaker 2: fourth down or something, and Jones just kind of tossed

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Speaker 2: it over to Warren, who had a defender all over him,

445
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Speaker 2: and Warren just went up there and got it, and

446
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Speaker 2: the defender was hanging on to him, and Warren is

447
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Speaker 2: so strong he’s just hanging onto the football. Colts later

448
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Speaker 2: go on to win that game. These guys are so

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Speaker 2: strong and physical really throughout their entire roster. We have

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Speaker 2: to match that on Sunday. And yeah, Warren is one

451
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Speaker 2: of those guys. You can’t let him beat you because

452
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Speaker 2: I think he leads his team in receiving yards, huge

453
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Speaker 2: red zone weapon, really good player, going to be a

454
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Speaker 2: good player for a long time. We got to find

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Speaker 2: a way to contain that production on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I’m going to match your match, but I’m going

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Speaker 1: to raise you to an exceed I think the Chiefs

458
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Speaker 1: will lose if they try to match the physicality of

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Speaker 1: the Colts. They have to exceed it in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. They’ve got to exceed it against this team.

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Speaker 1: You talk about fourth down, there’s seventeen to twenty one

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Speaker 1: on fourth down. Yeah, we’re sixteen to twenty one. We’re

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Speaker 1: pretty good. There’s seventeen to twenty one on fourth down.

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Speaker 1: Now before we get to Ari, who’s doing his spy

465
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Speaker 1: mission around the West. This defense of the Colts is underrated.

466
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Speaker 1: And they have impact players now at all three levels.

467
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Speaker 1: The trade to get sauce Gardner was looked at like, whoa,

468
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Speaker 1: you just Chris Baller, You just gave up a lot

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Speaker 1: to get sauce Gardner. Well he’s there, whether the trade

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Speaker 1: was expensive or not. But a guy on this team

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Speaker 1: that I really respect is Zaire Franklin, the linebacker in

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Speaker 1: the last two and three fourth years. Taking their ten

473
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Speaker 1: games this year, he has four hundred and ten tackles,

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Speaker 1: seven sacks, seven force fumbles, two interceptions. This guy is

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Speaker 1: a Nick Bolton. He will make every play possible. I

476
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Speaker 1: think Franklin is an underrated defensive player in this league.

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Speaker 2: Really good player. They don’t have DeForest Buckner, which is

478
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Speaker 2: a big deal, really good defensive tackle in the middle

479
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Speaker 2: of their defense. I believe he’s on ir right now,

480
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Speaker 2: so that’s a big deal not having him. But yeah,

481
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Speaker 2: they have playmakers everywhere. You mentioned getting Sauce Gardner, and

482
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Speaker 2: the man calling the plays is lou An Arumo. We’ve

483
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Speaker 2: had a lot of battles against lou Anarumo, a former

484
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Speaker 2: Bengals defensive coordinator, so we know all about this guy.

485
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Speaker 2: It’s kind of funny when he got let go from Cincinnati.

486
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Speaker 2: I’m like, all right, we don’t have to worry about

487
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Speaker 2: that guy anymore. Well now here he is in Indianapolis

488
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Speaker 2: on one of the best teams in the AFC, so

489
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Speaker 2: got to be ready for him.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It’s interesting though, overall the numbers might be a bit

492
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Speaker 2: skewed because these guys just obliterated the Dolphins, Raiders, and

493
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Speaker 2: the Titans twice. And despite that, it’s still the twenty

494
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Speaker 2: seventh ranked third down defense and twenty fourth ranked red

495
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Speaker 2: zone defense. They allowed about over four hundred yards to

496
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Speaker 2: the Rams, Chargers and Cardinals. They’re still really good though,

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, don’t take me take this wrong. I mean

498
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Speaker 2: they bring fourth in the NFL and quarterback pressures and

499
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Speaker 2: they’re seventh in takeaways. Here’s the thing for the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: in this game. This Colts defense is good. If the

501
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Speaker 2: Chiefs have opportunities, they have to seize them. So we

502
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Speaker 2: talked all about pregame postgame during the Broncos game that

503
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Speaker 2: missed opportunities have been the theme of the season so

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00:23:01,280 –> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: far in the losses, and we saw that against the Broncos. Right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, overall, and Chiefs go one for four in

506
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Speaker 2: the red zone against Denver. I mean, if you convert

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Speaker 2: just one more of those into touchdowns, the Chiefs win

508
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Speaker 2: that game. But also the end of the game, the

509
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Speaker 2: multiple sequences where the Chiefs had the ball and the lead,

510
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Speaker 2: when the Chiefs had the ball in a tie game

511
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Speaker 2: with plenty of time to go down and tie it

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Speaker 2: or take the lead, I mean, and then also having

513
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Speaker 2: the Broncos in third and fifteen deep in their own

514
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Speaker 2: side of the field, you’ve a chance to get off

515
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Speaker 2: the field and give the ball back to Patrick Mahomes. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs didn’t come up big in those situations like

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Speaker 2: they normally do. If the Chiefs have opportunities in this game,

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Speaker 2: which they will, they have to seize them. And if

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Speaker 2: they do, I like their chances. But you can’t let

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Speaker 2: a team like the Colts, who’s playing really good football

521
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Speaker 2: right now, have multiple chances like we did against Denver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don’t have Buckner, but they do have Grover Stewart. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart’s a stud. And the other thing they’ve done defensively,

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Speaker 1: The numbers aren’t as nice as their offensive numbers. They

525
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Speaker 1: have fourteen takeaways, yeah, and they’re plus two. They got

526
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Speaker 1: twelve giveaways, but fourteen takeaways these guys and Quitty Pays

527
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Speaker 1: a good player, remember studying him in the draft. But

528
00:24:03,680 –> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: our spy is out there. He roams the West Coast

529
00:24:08,320 –> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: and you won’t even know he’s there. He just SLINKs

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Speaker 1: in and out of places. Let’s check in with our

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Speaker 1: guy on the West. Here’s Ari Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Hello to everyone, and welcome to out West with Ari Wolf.

533
00:24:19,800 –> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: Excited for my chat this week with Matt McMullen and Matt.

534
00:24:23,040 –> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: The AFC West looks different week after week after week.

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Speaker 5: Right now the.

536
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Speaker 4: Broncos clearly now in front. At nine and two. They

537
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Speaker 4: come away with a three point win against the Chiefs.

538
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Speaker 4: The Charters had a really, really bad loss against Jacksonville.

539
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Speaker 4: They got blown out. The Raiders get blown out on

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Speaker 4: Monday night in football. But let’s start at the top

541
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Speaker 4: because we focus on the AFC West. The Broncos. It

542
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Speaker 4: really was a statement win for them. This game could

543
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Speaker 4: have gone either way. Bo Nicks is such an interesting

544
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Speaker 4: story at quarterback because he’s booed in that game at

545
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Speaker 4: home in the first half.

546
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Speaker 5: By his own fans.

547
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Speaker 4: Yet if you’ll look at the numbers at the end

548
00:25:00,359 –> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: of the game, he throws for two hundred and ninety

549
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Speaker 4: five yards and doesn’t turn the ball over. Bow Knicks

550
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Speaker 4: in some ways reminds me a little bit of Jalen Hurts.

551
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Speaker 4: People sort of just love to hate him no matter

552
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Speaker 4: how much his team wins. Is Boon Knicks a guy

553
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Speaker 4: do you think eventually is going to be in the

554
00:25:16,200 –> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: upper echelona quarterbacks? Or is he benefiting from the fact

555
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Speaker 4: that they have a strong overall team and one of

556
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Speaker 4: the best defenses in football.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that’s a tough question to answer, and

558
00:25:26,000 –> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I think the great on him is probably incomplete right now.

559
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Speaker 2: But you got to give him credit that he’s making

560
00:25:31,160 –> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: plays when he needs to and going into the game

561
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Speaker 2: against the Broncos, what Mitch and I kept talking about

562
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Speaker 2: is these guys, for whatever reason, are like the best

563
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Speaker 2: in the NFL this year in the fourth quarter. They

564
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Speaker 2: have the best yardage margin in the fourth quarter, They

565
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Speaker 2: have the best point margin in the fourth quarter. Knicks

566
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Speaker 2: went into the Chiefs Broncos game with the most total

567
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Speaker 2: touchdowns and first downs of any quarterback in the fourth quarter.

568
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Speaker 2: So if you have an opportunity to seize this game

569
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Speaker 2: and not let it come down to the final drive,

570
00:25:57,760 –> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: you got to do it. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what happened.

571
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Speaker 2: It came down to the final drive that She’s missed

572
00:26:03,520 –> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: a bunch of opportunities to put this game away, and

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Speaker 2: Nicks did what he has done all year, and he

574
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Speaker 2: went down and made some great throws on third and

575
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Speaker 2: fifteen hitting Courtland Sutton and then the thirty two yard

576
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Speaker 2: pass de Troy Franklin down the sideline. I mean, those

577
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Speaker 2: are great throws and a big moment, and I have

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Speaker 2: to give him credit for it. Tough one, right, So

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Speaker 2: I can’t. I don’t think I can come on this

580
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Speaker 2: podcast today and criticize him when he made those throws

581
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Speaker 2: that he did, So I’ll give him the credit. We’ll

582
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Speaker 2: see where his career goes. But making plays like that

583
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Speaker 2: in those big moments, that’s what all that’s what being

584
00:26:34,160 –> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: a great quarterback is all about. And again he made

585
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Speaker 2: sure he did that in those big moments.

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Speaker 4: So they’re heading into the bye week, so are the Chargers.

587
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Speaker 4: The Chargers, it was the worst loss in the Harbaugh era.

588
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Speaker 4: Granted it’s only been a year and a half, but

589
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Speaker 4: to lose like that, and we’ve talked about, you know,

590
00:26:49,920 –> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: that trip from the West coast to the East coast

591
00:26:52,440 –> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: and playing in the early time slot is challenging, but

592
00:26:55,760 –> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: the Chargers were really flat. I mean, Herbert threw for

593
00:26:58,160 –> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: eighty one yards in the game. I realized they pulled

594
00:27:00,320 –> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: him pretty early in the second half, but it it’s

595
00:27:03,200 –> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: not a good sign for the Chargers. They’re heading into

596
00:27:05,640 –> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: their bye week feeling the exact opposite of the Broncos.

597
00:27:08,320 –> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers are now vulnerable down the stretch.

598
00:27:11,520 –> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: But I don’t want to read too much into one game, right,

599
00:27:13,960 –> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: Like you can just have a bad day at the office.

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Speaker 5: What was your takeaway?

601
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Speaker 4: I know you were busy working, but once you’ve had

602
00:27:19,080 –> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: a chance to, you know, look at the highlights, analyze

603
00:27:21,720 –> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: what happened, what really went wrong for the Chargers against

604
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Speaker 4: the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: You know, It’s funny with games like this. I’m on

606
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Speaker 2: the field getting ready for my pregame show and at

607
00:27:32,520 –> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Mile High, for example, on their big board, they’re just

608
00:27:34,880 –> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: showing kind of like red zone basically. So I’m like

609
00:27:37,520 –> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: jumping in and out of the Chargers Jags game. And

610
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Speaker 2: like we talked about last week, I thought the Chargers

611
00:27:43,119 –> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: were going to handle the Jags in that game, and

612
00:27:45,400 –> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: it couldn’t have been more opposite. I’m shocked by this

613
00:27:48,480 –> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: to see the Jags absolutely roll the Chargers and the

614
00:27:51,200 –> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: numbers are even crazier. You talked about Herbert’s passing yards,

615
00:27:53,920 –> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: but the Chargers had one hundred and thirty five yards

616
00:27:56,000 –> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: of offense and eight first downs. Now, the Jags defense

617
00:27:59,520 –> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: has played well this year, but I mean that’s thorough

618
00:28:01,800 –> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: and complete domination. And the Jags went into that game

619
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Speaker 2: with the fewest sacks in the NFL. We kind of

620
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Speaker 2: wondered with the Chargers tackle situation, something has to give there, like,

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Speaker 2: are the Jags going to be all over Herbert the

622
00:28:14,640 –> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: entire game? And they kind of were. I mean, they

623
00:28:16,320 –> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: blitched just two times and still got pressure nine times

624
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Speaker 2: on twenty three dropbacks, so almost half of his dropbacks.

625
00:28:22,400 –> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: They are creating pressure despite not blitzing. As we know,

626
00:28:25,359 –> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: that’s a recipe for absolute disaster for an offense and

627
00:28:28,280 –> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: that’s what happened. So Yeah, weird situation for the Chargers.

628
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Speaker 2: Kind of never really got their game plan going. So

629
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Speaker 2: we’ll see and we’ll talk a little bit later if

630
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Speaker 2: we’re looking kind of out the wildcard race right now.

631
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Speaker 2: The game against the Chargers in a few weeks is

632
00:28:42,520 –> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: a big one. But yeah, odd game there for the

633
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Speaker 2: Chargers and the Jags, two teams going in different directions.

634
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Speaker 4: I think are not going to spend a lot of

635
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Speaker 4: time on the Raiders because I do I want to

636
00:28:51,600 –> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: go deep into the AFC Wildcard race. But the Raiders

637
00:28:54,080 –> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: last night or see Mike business as usual, Dallas comes

638
00:28:58,480 –> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: in their Dak Prescott looks like a Roll Bowl quarterback.

639
00:29:01,040 –> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: Both receivers, despite the fact that they didn’t play in

640
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Speaker 4: the opening series, which we didn’t get a ton of

641
00:29:05,440 –> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: detail on after the game. Something internally was wrong that

642
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Speaker 4: you don’t have CD Lamb and George Pickott’s on the field,

643
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Speaker 4: But look, those guys shined in the game. The Raiders,

644
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Speaker 4: I’m curious whether or not Pete Carroll’s going to even

645
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Speaker 4: get another year, or whether they’re placing the blame that

646
00:29:20,840 –> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: they need a franchise quarterback. But I feel like every

647
00:29:24,120 –> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: week when we talk about the Raiders, they are just

648
00:29:26,360 –> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: a mess.

649
00:29:27,160 –> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Now.

650
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Speaker 5: Look, they did a couple things good defensively early.

651
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Speaker 4: But man, this is a team right now that doesn’t

652
00:29:31,840 –> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: have a lot of positive signs for the future.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe the Raiders beat the Patriots at Gillette

654
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Speaker 2: in Week one?

655
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Speaker 1: Right?

656
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Speaker 2: This is why football is so crazy, and why after

657
00:29:41,760 –> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: like week one and week two, you can never come

658
00:29:43,480 –> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: to any major conclusions because after the week one we

659
00:29:46,400 –> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: were like, man, the Raiders, they might have something this year. Yeah,

660
00:29:49,240 –> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: and I mean just hasn’t been the case. Their defense

661
00:29:51,800 –> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 2: has really struggled. He trade Jakobe Myers, who is one

662
00:29:55,280 –> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: of your best offensive weapons and kind of makes an

663
00:29:58,200 –> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: offense that was already struggling even worse. These defenses are

664
00:30:02,960 –> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: keying in unbrock bowers and they can never get the

665
00:30:05,000 –> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: running game going because they don’t have time to run

666
00:30:07,160 –> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: the ball because their defense is struggling. Just a recipe

667
00:30:09,920 –> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: for disaster for the Raiders and kind of that sort

668
00:30:12,280 –> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: of year for them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it’s odd with Gino.

670
00:30:15,320 –> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: He really when he found his best football in Seattle

671
00:30:18,000 –> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: is because he wasn’t turning the football over and now

672
00:30:20,240 –> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 4: he has more interceptions than touchdowns. Usually guys with that

673
00:30:23,320 –> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: kind of track record now through ten games go straight

674
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Speaker 4: to the bench. So I realized Carrol and Gino have

675
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Speaker 4: a deep relationship, but they got to figure something out.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 5: Let’s move on to what were the best games from

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Speaker 5: last week.

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Speaker 4: I thought there were two, the Rams and the Seahawks

680
00:30:36,920 –> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: and the Bears and the Vikings for different reasons. So

681
00:30:39,600 –> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: the Rams jump all over the Seahawks, right they’re at

682
00:30:43,080 –> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: fourteen to three. Stafford throws two early touchdown passes. But

683
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Speaker 4: when you really dig into the game, Seattle actually played

684
00:30:49,920 –> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: great despite the fact their quarterback threw four picks.

685
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Speaker 5: They have a chance to win the game.

686
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Speaker 4: On look, a sixty one yard field goal is not

687
00:30:56,640 –> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: a sixty one yard field goal in nineteen eighty five

688
00:31:00,040 –> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: world we’re living in like a sixty one yard field

689
00:31:02,040 –> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: goal like is manageable. They had a chance. Seattle’s defense,

690
00:31:06,720 –> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: I think is legit. Stafford really in the Rams offense

691
00:31:10,000 –> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: did very little. They had a couple of short fields.

692
00:31:11,960 –> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: They got those points early. They’re going to play again

693
00:31:15,480 –> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: in Seattle, but that now looks like it’s a two

694
00:31:18,160 –> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: team race in the NFC West. What was your takeaway

695
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Speaker 4: from the Seahawks in the Rams.

696
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is another one that I’m trying to

697
00:31:24,560 –> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: catch up on after the fact. But I mean, what

698
00:31:27,400 –> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: a matchup between I mean, probably the two best teams

699
00:31:30,160 –> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: in the NFC right now. I get Philadelphia has the record,

700
00:31:32,720 –> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: but the way those two teams have been playing this

701
00:31:35,440 –> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: year going into it as both top five and scoring

702
00:31:38,280 –> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: offense and defense, and I think we saw that in

703
00:31:40,600 –> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: the game. I think my major takeaway from this game, though,

704
00:31:43,280 –> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: is Sam Donald, if he’s going to completely rewrite the

705
00:31:47,240 –> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: script about him, I think he has to play well

706
00:31:49,600 –> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: in these big games. And yeah, they hung in there

707
00:31:52,760 –> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: despite the four interceptions. But Donald has been so good

708
00:31:56,040 –> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: this year, like so good, and in some primetime games

709
00:31:58,480 –> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: looked really really good, completely different from the guy that

710
00:32:02,000 –> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: got jettisoned out of New York, right, But he has

711
00:32:05,360 –> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: to play well in these sorts of games. And he

712
00:32:07,520 –> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: threw four interceptions. You just can’t do that against a

713
00:32:09,680 –> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: division opponent that you’re kind of competing with to get

714
00:32:13,120 –> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: that top seed in the NFC. So I think that’s

715
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Speaker 2: my takeaway is I’m curious in a few weeks when

716
00:32:17,840 –> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: they play again, Sam Donald has to be the Sam

717
00:32:20,400 –> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Donald he was all year and not the player he

718
00:32:22,920 –> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: was on Sunday.

719
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does seem like the bigger the game for Donald,

720
00:32:27,200 –> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: it’s been real shaky. Mean, you look back at the

721
00:32:29,000 –> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: end of his season last year, right, and they’re on

722
00:32:31,160 –> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: top of the world, they’re feeling great, and his last

723
00:32:33,160 –> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: two games went so poorly in Minnesota. So, speaking of

724
00:32:36,440 –> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: the Vikings. It was kind of a wild NFC North

725
00:32:39,000 –> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: Division game. The Bears lead sixteen to three. You’re thinking, Okay,

726
00:32:42,200 –> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: this is not that interesting of a game, but then wow,

727
00:32:45,400 –> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: McCarthy and the Vikings come all the way back with

728
00:32:47,520 –> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: fifty seconds left, They take a one point leave and

729
00:32:50,080 –> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 4: then they give up the huge kickoff return and in

730
00:32:53,000 –> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 4: the end Santos kicks the game winning field. Well, they

731
00:32:55,960 –> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: are now seven and three, and look, this is wild.

732
00:32:58,920 –> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 4: Like they’re in the mixed win the NFC Nord. I

733
00:33:01,560 –> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: don’t think anybody had they started oh and two, and

734
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Speaker 4: I wouldn’t say that they’re winning these games because Caleb

735
00:33:06,600 –> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: Williams is suddenly a star. I think Caleb Williams is

736
00:33:09,760 –> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: better than he’s been. But wow, the Bears at seven

737
00:33:13,160 –> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: and three. They have had a bunch of tight games,

738
00:33:15,440 –> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: and it was a spectacular ending to that one.

739
00:33:18,200 –> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: I’m pulling up the Bears schedule right now just to

740
00:33:20,400 –> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: look at it. It’s crazy. They’re seven and three. And

741
00:33:23,600 –> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: actually this morning, when I was thinking about what we

742
00:33:26,720 –> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: were going to talk about today, I was thinking about

743
00:33:28,680 –> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: the Bears and I looked up the standings and I’m like,

744
00:33:31,320 –> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: they’re seven and three. I just kind of had no idea.

745
00:33:34,200 –> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they’ve been winning some games, but

746
00:33:35,880 –> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: still seven and three, particularly, like you said, after starting

747
00:33:38,880 –> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: and two. The funniest part of this is there one

748
00:33:41,960 –> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: loss during this whole stretch since starting to two was

749
00:33:44,800 –> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: to the Ravens. But it was the Tyler Huntley Ravens. Yeah,

750
00:33:47,800 –> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: it wasn’t like it was Lamar, so kind of inexplicable there.

751
00:33:51,120 –> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens were totally at the brink at

752
00:33:53,600 –> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: that point. I think they’re one and five and they

753
00:33:57,360 –> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: beat the Bears. That’s the bears only loss in this

754
00:33:59,400 –> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: entire stretch. They beat the Bengals that crazy game forty

755
00:34:03,000 –> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: seven forty two. They beat the Giants twenty four to twenty,

756
00:34:07,840 –> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: beat the Commanders twenty five to twenty four in that

757
00:34:09,920 –> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: game when Daniels turned the ball over late. Yeah, I mean,

758
00:34:13,400 –> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: they’re playing good football. And I was someone that thought

759
00:34:16,560 –> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was going to be a success, Like not

760
00:34:18,480 –> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: just because of the x’s and o’s, but he seemed

761
00:34:20,239 –> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: like a kind of like a culture builder kind of guy.

762
00:34:22,320 –> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: And I’ll give him credit. After a tough start, they’ve

763
00:34:24,560 –> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: figured it out, especially considering they lost to the Lions

764
00:34:28,200 –> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: fifty two to twenty one to drop to zero to two.

765
00:34:31,080 –> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: I’m sure vibes weren’t great at Hallas Hall. Now they’ve

766
00:34:34,360 –> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: won seven of eight, playing good football. That’s a fun

767
00:34:37,040 –> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: division to watch. I’m curious how it all plays out,

768
00:34:39,880 –> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: and it’s wild.

769
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Speaker 4: Do you think about nobody expected the Chiefs at this

770
00:34:42,880 –> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: point in the year to be on the outside of

771
00:34:44,920 –> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: the playoff picture, or how about the Detroit Lions if

772
00:34:47,000 –> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: the playoffs started today, would.

773
00:34:48,440 –> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: Not be in the playoffs. That is a staggering thought.

774
00:34:51,400 –> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: All right.

775
00:34:52,200 –> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: So next week AFC wes it’s a light week because

776
00:34:55,400 –> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: you’ve got the Broncos and Chargers are off, so the

777
00:34:57,640 –> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: big game is obviously the Colts versus the Chiefs. I

778
00:35:00,840 –> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: don’t think I’m a rocket scientist here telling you getting

779
00:35:03,560 –> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: pressure on Daniel Jones is everything. You know, what the

780
00:35:05,960 –> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: Steelers were able to do to the Colts has got

781
00:35:08,160 –> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: to be the recipe for the Chiefs to have success.

782
00:35:10,640 –> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: Slowing down this really good offense, which brings me to

783
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Speaker 4: Chris Jones. You know, there were moments against Denver where

784
00:35:16,640 –> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: I thought, okay, like that’s the dominant Chris Jones.

785
00:35:19,719 –> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: Because when you.

786
00:35:21,280 –> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: Think about the legacy of this particular dynasty and it

787
00:35:26,040 –> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: harkens back to remember during the preseason, before our first

788
00:35:29,760 –> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 4: preseason game, in the same meeting room, we had Andy Reid,

789
00:35:34,560 –> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey.

790
00:35:36,040 –> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: And Chris Jones, and I thought we got four first

791
00:35:37,800 –> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: ballot Hall of Famers.

792
00:35:39,800 –> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: Chris Jones, to me, needs to play like a first

793
00:35:42,480 –> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer because he just wrecks everything. And

794
00:35:45,000 –> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: I granted he has a lot of double teams. Sometimes

795
00:35:48,000 –> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 4: the stats are there and other guys are getting it,

796
00:35:49,880 –> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: but to me, he is still the alpha male of

797
00:35:52,120 –> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 4: the defense. And if they want to take down Daniel

798
00:35:54,320 –> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: Jones and the Colts, boy, I’d love to see the

799
00:35:56,360 –> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: best game of the season for Chris Jones this weekend.

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00:35:58,960 –> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I’m with you. One thing that Mitch and I

801
00:36:00,880 –> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: have been talking about all week and on the podcast

802
00:36:03,560 –> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: today is about how the Colts are so physical and

803
00:36:08,080 –> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: powerful and strong, right like they want to be the

804
00:36:10,600 –> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: most physical team on the field. The Chiefs can’t just

805
00:36:13,560 –> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: match the physicality, they need to exceed it. And that

806
00:36:16,920 –> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: manifests itself in a lot of ways, but one of

807
00:36:18,800 –> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: them is trying to get pressure with the defensive front

808
00:36:21,080 –> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: without blitzing. And I think if you look back at

809
00:36:23,200 –> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: the Broncos game. That’s one of the areas we struggled

810
00:36:25,880 –> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: is in order to get pressure on Nicks, we kind

811
00:36:27,960 –> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: of had to manufacture that pressure. And on the third

812
00:36:30,080 –> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: and fifteen at the end of the game, couldn’t get

813
00:36:31,760 –> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: pressure on him. Sutton came open, I’m with you. You got

814
00:36:35,200 –> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: to put pressure on Daniel Jones. It begins with stopping

815
00:36:37,680 –> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: the run, though, and that’s something that Mitch and I

816
00:36:39,320 –> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: have talked about ad nauseum. I mean, this is obvious.

817
00:36:42,040 –> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor having an incredible season. You have to kill

818
00:36:45,280 –> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: that engine, right, and he’s going to get his yards

819
00:36:47,560 –> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: here and there. But you can’t let him have one

820
00:36:49,200 –> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: of these monster days. Force him to throw the football

821
00:36:52,120 –> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: and get pressure. Because if you look at like Pro

822
00:36:53,680 –> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 2: football focus numbers and take it for what you will,

823
00:36:56,120 –> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: but if you do Jones when he has the ball

824
00:36:59,040 –> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: out of his hands unless in two point five seconds,

825
00:37:01,360 –> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: one of the best in the league this year, When

826
00:37:02,960 –> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: he hangs on to the football for longer than two

827
00:37:04,640 –> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: point five seconds, his numbers go way down for the

828
00:37:08,160 –> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs in this game. Get that quick pressure on him,

829
00:37:10,960 –> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: don’t let him go to his first read, right, and

830
00:37:13,960 –> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: let’s how you confuse him and create pressure and create problems.

831
00:37:17,200 –> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: A lot easier said than done against this great offensive line.

832
00:37:19,719 –> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, that’s the key on Sunday.

833
00:37:21,920 –> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: And then just a quick dough on the other AFC

834
00:37:23,680 –> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 4: West game. You’ve got the Browns and the Raiders. I

835
00:37:26,360 –> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: think at this point this easy if you have this

836
00:37:28,000 –> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: better record, aren’t you Both teams almost want to lose

837
00:37:30,560 –> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: to improve your draft pick. Nevertheless, the most interesting thing

838
00:37:33,600 –> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: to me is Shador Sanders will get the start. I

839
00:37:36,120 –> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: did watch the second half of the Ravens Browns game.

840
00:37:38,920 –> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: Don’t ask me why, I’m just a football junkie. Sanders

841
00:37:42,040 –> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: looked overwhelmed. Now, granted, hill Ball a full week of practice,

842
00:37:45,920 –> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: but I think that there will be a lot of

843
00:37:47,320 –> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: interest in this game just because that Sanders brand, It’s

844
00:37:50,000 –> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: Dion Son, its first.

845
00:37:51,480 –> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 5: Start, I get.

846
00:37:52,920 –> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: I think it’s going to have a bigger viewership than

847
00:37:54,640 –> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: you normally have for two teams that only have a

848
00:37:56,680 –> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: couple of wins. And I’m curious, are you interested at

849
00:37:59,560 –> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: all and see how Sanders does this weekend?

850
00:38:01,800 –> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

851
00:38:02,040 –> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Because I’m like you, I just like football, and of

852
00:38:03,880 –> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: course that’s been like a storyline for months and months now. Yeah,

853
00:38:07,640 –> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I’m curious to see how he looks. I was going

854
00:38:09,600 –> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: back and watching the highlights from when he got in

855
00:38:11,400 –> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: the game against Baltimore last week, curious to see how

856
00:38:15,640 –> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: he does when he has like a full week to prepare,

857
00:38:18,640 –> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: has the game plan built around him, see how he

858
00:38:21,280 –> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: handles it. He’s obviously super talented. I mean, I’d stay

859
00:38:23,760 –> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: up and watch his games at Colorado when they’re at

860
00:38:25,640 –> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: like twelve thirty at night here in Kansas City. So yeah,

861
00:38:29,200 –> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: I’m fascinated a lot more intrigue in this game considering

862
00:38:33,760 –> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: who’s playing each other than there normally would be considering

863
00:38:36,920 –> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: the records. But yeah, we’ll see how he does. All right.

864
00:38:40,480 –> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: Now, we’re sort of adding a new component to out West,

865
00:38:44,120 –> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 4: and that is looking at the AFC Wildcard and looking

866
00:38:46,960 –> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: at those teams in who they’re playing, because you know,

867
00:38:49,680 –> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: it is a race now to secure one of those

868
00:38:52,080 –> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: three wildcard spots. So let’s start right now. Buffalo is

869
00:38:55,400 –> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: at seven and three. Now, look, there are only a

870
00:38:57,880 –> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: game behind the Patriots. They play each other again. But

871
00:39:00,320 –> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: I do think you know, whicheveryone doesn’t win the division

872
00:39:02,800 –> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: is going to get in.

873
00:39:03,840 –> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 5: So if you assume that.

874
00:39:04,840 –> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo is in, then you’ve got the Chargers Jacksonville, Houston

875
00:39:08,640 –> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: in Kansas City. To me, are the four teams that

876
00:39:10,760 –> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: are buying for the other two births. Buffalo is playing

877
00:39:16,160 –> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 4: Houston next week. Now, normally I would think I got

878
00:39:18,400 –> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: to root against Buffalo, we got to get KC homefield

879
00:39:20,760 –> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: a manage. Well, we’re at a different point in a

880
00:39:22,640 –> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: different season. It actually seems to me this week coming up,

881
00:39:26,239 –> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: we’re rooting for the Bills that the Texans, because who

882
00:39:28,440 –> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: want to bury the Texans to get them out of

883
00:39:30,160 –> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: the wildcard race. I’m not crazy, right that that we’re

884
00:39:32,360 –> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: rooting for the Bills next week.

885
00:39:33,640 –> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: No, I think you’re right. I mean it feels sacrilegious.

886
00:39:36,960 –> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: You know what you just said. I said at the

887
00:39:38,440 –> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: beginning of the podcast with Mitch that normally this time

888
00:39:41,000 –> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: of year, we’re talking all about like positioning for like

889
00:39:44,160 –> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: the top seed, trying to get the buy I mean,

890
00:39:46,239 –> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: the reality of the season is that the number one

891
00:39:49,160 –> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: seed is far away, right, we just need to make

892
00:39:50,880 –> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: sure we get in the dance. So yeah, as crazy

893
00:39:54,280 –> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: as it sounds, I think I think I want the

894
00:39:56,360 –> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Bills to win this game against the Texans because the Texans,

895
00:39:59,520 –> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: to their credit, have won three of four games, two

896
00:40:01,920 –> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: of which without CJ. Stroud, and it sounds like he’s

897
00:40:03,960 –> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: not going to play in this game either. But Davis

898
00:40:06,200 –> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Mills has played pretty good at least to keep the

899
00:40:08,719 –> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: minute ugly game against Tennessee. But they won and you

900
00:40:11,880 –> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: shouldn’t apologize for winning. And they still have the number

901
00:40:14,480 –> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: one scoring defense in the NFL. Now, Buffalo has been

902
00:40:18,640 –> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: so up and down, you truly never know what you’re

903
00:40:21,040 –> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: going to get. I mean, against the Bucks last week,

904
00:40:23,800 –> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: at least offensively, they were phenomenal, just matching the Bucks

905
00:40:27,480 –> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: score for score. Allen was incredible. I think he had

906
00:40:29,960 –> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: like six total touchdowns and against us they were great.

907
00:40:33,000 –> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: But then against the Falcons earlier this year, and certainly

908
00:40:36,040 –> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins, just like a completely different team. So

909
00:40:38,680 –> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: what team shows up here in this game. We’ll find out.

910
00:40:42,040 –> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, as much as it pains me to say,

911
00:40:44,200 –> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: I think we want the Bills to win this game, unfortunately.

912
00:40:47,719 –> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: Not something either of us have said in the last

913
00:40:49,840 –> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: five or six years. Were rooting for the Bills in

914
00:40:51,600 –> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: Week twelve? Yeah, all right, next up, Jacksonville is six

915
00:40:56,200 –> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: and four, and I went through the rest of their

916
00:40:58,680 –> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: schedule and I have them with it, you know, again,

917
00:41:00,760 –> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: I’ll have a crystal Ball, But I have them finishing.

918
00:41:03,280 –> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: If things go well for them.

919
00:41:04,440 –> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: At ten and seven, they still have the Colts at

920
00:41:08,120 –> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: home and they still have to go to Indy, Right,

921
00:41:10,600 –> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: So the Jacksonville think it could be worse than ten

922
00:41:12,640 –> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: and seven.

923
00:41:13,080 –> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: I gave them a split.

924
00:41:14,239 –> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: I just gave them winning at home and them losing

925
00:41:16,719 –> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: at Indianapolis. But Jacksonville coming off one of their best

926
00:41:21,400 –> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: performances of the season, They’ve got to be feeling pretty

927
00:41:24,840 –> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: bullish down there. I mean, Trevor Lawrence hasn’t played great,

928
00:41:27,400 –> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: the defense has been better than we expected. They’ve caused

929
00:41:29,840 –> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: lots of turnovers. So Jacksonville is a team coming up

930
00:41:34,120 –> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 4: this week. They’ve got at Arizona then at Tennessee. Those

931
00:41:37,280 –> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: are very winnable road games. Where do you stand right

932
00:41:41,200 –> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: now on the Jaguars and AFC wildcard picture?

933
00:41:44,160 –> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, speaking of hot and cold, the Jacks

934
00:41:47,440 –> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: are tough to figure out because the way they played

935
00:41:49,560 –> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: against US and the way they played against the Chargers

936
00:41:52,280 –> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: last week, for sure, I mean, that looks like a

937
00:41:54,560 –> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: really good team, right, But then they’ve also had struggles

938
00:41:56,880 –> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: this year. They lost to the Rams thirty five to seven,

939
00:42:00,719 –> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: barely beat the Raiders, allowed twenty nine points to the

940
00:42:03,640 –> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: Raiders just a couple weeks ago, and then that crazy

941
00:42:06,440 –> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: game against the Texans a few weeks ago where they

942
00:42:08,360 –> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: had a sizable lead late in the fourth quarter and

943
00:42:11,160 –> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: allowed it to go away. So I don’t really know

944
00:42:15,000 –> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: what team will get to week with the Jags now,

945
00:42:18,120 –> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: considering the current situation, I hope they lose a bunch

946
00:42:21,440 –> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: of these games. And with Arizona, I’m assuming it’ll still

947
00:42:24,760 –> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: be Jacobe Brissett at quarterback.

948
00:42:26,280 –> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Right.

949
00:42:26,600 –> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: So Brissette, despite losing last week, still had a pretty

950
00:42:29,680 –> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: good game. We’ll see if maybe they put a more

951
00:42:31,960 –> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: complete game together here against the Jags, it would be

952
00:42:34,800 –> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: great for the chief situation. If the Jags, coming off

953
00:42:38,239 –> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: a big win over the Chargers at home, go across

954
00:42:40,560 –> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: the country and lay an egg against the Cardinals. We’ll see.

955
00:42:43,680 –> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: The Cardinals, I feel like, are one of those teams that,

956
00:42:45,840 –> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: even though the record doesn’t show it, they can get

957
00:42:48,200 –> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: hot from time to time. We’ll see it. But yeah,

958
00:42:51,320 –> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean looking at the schedule, like you said, two

959
00:42:53,480 –> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: more games against the Colts for the Jags, and they

960
00:42:55,360 –> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 2: have to play the Broncos this year on the road.

961
00:42:58,920 –> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: That’ll be tough. So we’ll see but to me, the

962
00:43:02,880 –> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Jags are that main team that we’re watching right now

963
00:43:05,880 –> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: and chatting with Mitch. The division race is not over.

964
00:43:08,440 –> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs three games back in the lost column,

965
00:43:11,239 –> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: but you still play the Broncos again. If the Chiefs

966
00:43:13,719 –> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: take care of their business and the Broncos maybe get

967
00:43:16,840 –> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: a little comfortable with their situation, the Division is still

968
00:43:19,640 –> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: very much in play. But we have to be realistic

969
00:43:21,520 –> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: here and talk about the wild card as well. Both

970
00:43:23,880 –> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: routes are possible, and I think for the Chiefs and

971
00:43:27,239 –> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: the wildcard race, Jacksonville is the one team I’m watching

972
00:43:29,560 –> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: because they had that tiebreaker over us. We need them

973
00:43:31,840 –> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: to lose some games.

974
00:43:33,280 –> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right. So nextcept the Chargers.

975
00:43:35,600 –> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: So they’re coming off again, just the worst performance in

976
00:43:38,560 –> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: the Harbaugh era. They’re seven and four. I have them

977
00:43:43,160 –> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: finishing at ten and seven. We’ve got the Raiders at home.

978
00:43:46,080 –> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: You expect them to win in that. I think they

979
00:43:47,560 –> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 4: probably lose to the Eagles at home. They can’t protect

980
00:43:49,760 –> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: and that Eagles defensive line looks better than it has

981
00:43:52,200 –> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: all your Jalen Phillips has been a nice ad for them.

982
00:43:55,280 –> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: They still have to go to Kansas City, They have

983
00:43:57,200 –> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 4: to go to Dallas and they have to go to Denver.

984
00:44:00,160 –> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: I’ve got the Chargers finishing at ten and seven, so

985
00:44:03,480 –> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: you know, the tiebreaker between the Chargers and the Chiefs,

986
00:44:06,600 –> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: it could end up being there are three teams at

987
00:44:08,400 –> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 4: ten and seven. Then we go to record. We talked

988
00:44:10,440 –> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 4: about offline yesterday. Record in the AFC. There’s still a

989
00:44:14,880 –> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: lot of AFC games to be played, so I think

990
00:44:16,600 –> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: we don’t need to dig too deep into that, but

991
00:44:18,600 –> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 4: I do think that there’s a chance that those three

992
00:44:21,000 –> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: teams could end up at ten and seven, and then

993
00:44:23,640 –> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: obviously the tiebreakers come in and play it to just

994
00:44:26,360 –> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: I want to put a summary on this. Obviously, if

995
00:44:28,520 –> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: the Chiefs win their next seven, they’re in. If they

996
00:44:31,000 –> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: go six and one, they’re in. But five and two

997
00:44:33,800 –> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: is not a guarantee, and so that’s just that’s pretty

998
00:44:37,760 –> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, five and two is something you’d normally expect

999
00:44:40,080 –> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 4: from them when you’re five and five. Five and two

1000
00:44:41,880 –> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: sounds like, look, this team’s got to really turn it

1001
00:44:44,280 –> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: up a notch. Do I trust Andy Reid one hundred percent?

1002
00:44:47,000 –> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: Do I trust Patrick Mahomes the whole organization, But it’s

1003
00:44:49,680 –> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: going to be fascinating to see how they deal with

1004
00:44:52,280 –> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: this because it’s going to be a fight down to

1005
00:44:55,160 –> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 4: the final week of the season for the wildcard. Hopefully

1006
00:44:57,480 –> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: the Chiefs won’t be sweating, but whoever gets that last

1007
00:44:59,800 –> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: while card spot, it’s gonna be a dogfight in the AFC. Now,

1008
00:45:03,040 –> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: I’ll just briefly mentioned Houston is right there, five and five.

1009
00:45:06,400 –> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: I’ve got them finishing at seven to ten. They actually

1010
00:45:08,680 –> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 4: have a pretty tough schedule the rest of the way.

1011
00:45:12,120 –> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: The best game coming up this week, I think, besides

1012
00:45:14,520 –> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: the Colts and the Chiefs, I think the Steelers versus.

1013
00:45:17,000 –> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: The Bears is interesting.

1014
00:45:18,160 –> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: Now we know Aaron Rodgers got the injury to his

1015
00:45:20,719 –> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: non throwing hand. No decision has been made. Obviously he

1016
00:45:23,960 –> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: doesn’t play. It kind of changes things. But you know,

1017
00:45:26,320 –> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: we’re just talking about the Bears, you know, seven and

1018
00:45:28,280 –> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: three finding ways to win. The Steelers really really needed

1019
00:45:31,160 –> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: to win last week against Cincinnati. I think the Steelers

1020
00:45:34,800 –> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: and the Bears could be fun. Any inkling of how

1021
00:45:38,360 –> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: do you think that one might work out this weekend?

1022
00:45:40,600 –> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, with the Steelers, I mean they have to

1023
00:45:42,520 –> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: be looking in the rear view mirror now and the

1024
00:45:44,400 –> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Ravens are right there kind of like how we all

1025
00:45:47,800 –> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: thought this might play out. After the Ravens won that

1026
00:45:50,880 –> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: game in Chicago, kind of felt like they saved their season.

1027
00:45:53,239 –> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Then Lamar Jackson came back. They have not lost since.

1028
00:45:56,160 –> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: Now they actually have the same record as the Chiefs,

1029
00:45:58,480 –> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: which is hard to believe considering we’re these two teams

1030
00:46:00,600 –> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: were just a few weeks ago. The good news is

1031
00:46:03,239 –> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs actually have the tiebreaker over the Ravens because

1032
00:46:05,520 –> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: of the head to head win. That’s good. The Ravens

1033
00:46:08,800 –> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: making the playoffs as a wildcard team just because of

1034
00:46:10,880 –> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: how the tiebreakers have worked out would be tough, but

1035
00:46:13,280 –> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: they could win that division. And actually, I think as

1036
00:46:16,000 –> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: part of this conversation with the wild card and kind

1037
00:46:19,520 –> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: of watching what teams are right there with the Chiefs,

1038
00:46:21,800 –> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: I think you almost want the Steelers to start losing

1039
00:46:23,840 –> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: some games and just concede the AFC North to the

1040
00:46:25,800 –> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Ravens and the Steelers might fall out of it entirely,

1041
00:46:27,840 –> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy.

1042
00:46:29,680 –> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: But well, we’ll take back to what the Steelers did.

1043
00:46:31,480 –> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: We talked about this last week, Like Russell Wilson, they

1044
00:46:33,440 –> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: got into an eight and three start and didn’t make

1045
00:46:34,920 –> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: the playoffs, So you know, this could be the same

1046
00:46:37,600 –> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: thing over again. The Steelers going in the wrong direction again.

1047
00:46:39,960 –> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: They got a reprieve last week. But you know, if

1048
00:46:41,600 –> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers can’t play, I don’t think that. You know,

1049
00:46:43,960 –> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: Steelers Nation has a ton of confidence at Mason Rudolph.

1050
00:46:46,520 –> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: I think he’s a gamer. But yeah, I think it’ll

1051
00:46:49,440 –> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 4: be interesting. I do think that they’re in the AFC.

1052
00:46:51,840 –> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: There’s gonna be a lot of Bears fans this weekend,

1053
00:46:54,600 –> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: right that the Steelers for sure.

1054
00:46:57,440 –> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, if you looked at the Steelers schedule, I just

1055
00:46:59,520 –> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: pulled it up, so the Steelers played.

1056
00:47:02,040 –> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: They still got the Ravens wide.

1057
00:47:03,680 –> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play the Bears this weekend. Then they play

1058
00:47:06,840 –> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: the Bills, then the Ravens, then the Dolphins, and you know,

1059
00:47:10,600 –> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: take the Dolphins for what you think they are.

1060
00:47:12,680 –> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: Dolphins are trending in the right direction right now, so that.

1061
00:47:15,120 –> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not be a easy game. Right Then after that

1062
00:47:17,560 –> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: they go on the road to Detroit, who at that

1063
00:47:20,480 –> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: point will likely be playing for their playoff lives. But

1064
00:47:22,400 –> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Detroit is way better I think than the record indicates.

1065
00:47:25,360 –> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Then Cleveland on the road Division game with Miles Garrett,

1066
00:47:28,200 –> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: who will have fifty five sacks at that point. And

1067
00:47:30,680 –> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: then and then they finished the year with the Ravens.

1068
00:47:34,120 –> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: The Steelers might be in some trouble here just looking

1069
00:47:36,040 –> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: at their schedule. This is tough.

1070
00:47:37,760 –> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the Steelers could finish under five hundred, right,

1071
00:47:40,960 –> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: eight to nine, you wouldn’t be that shock, right, just

1072
00:47:43,200 –> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: given how tough the schedule is. So it’s going to

1073
00:47:45,600 –> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: be a compelling, compelling race in the AFC. And again

1074
00:47:48,719 –> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: that we’re not saying that the division title is not

1075
00:47:51,040 –> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: still an option. You go seven to zero and the

1076
00:47:53,040 –> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: Broncos slip up a little bit. Look, I mean the

1077
00:47:55,840 –> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Chiefs really only lost one regular season.

1078
00:47:57,880 –> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: Game last year, right, the last game against.

1079
00:48:00,400 –> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: You’re not playing your starters, So winning seven or zero

1080
00:48:03,160 –> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: for this bunch is not unrealistic.

1081
00:48:05,000 –> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, Matt.

1082
00:48:05,640 –> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: To my final thought, and this is really a message

1083
00:48:09,239 –> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: to the kingdom, which is this standard that has been

1084
00:48:12,960 –> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: set by the Chiefs is the standard that we’ve never

1085
00:48:15,800 –> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: seen before in the National Football League. What this dynasty

1086
00:48:18,520 –> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: has done has brought incredible joy, right, It’s brought the

1087
00:48:22,920 –> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: most fun in the history of the franchise. But what

1088
00:48:25,880 –> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: also does is create a level of expectation which I

1089
00:48:29,440 –> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 4: think sometimes can suck the fun out of football. Right

1090
00:48:32,840 –> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: for most people, for most of their lives, You’ve been

1091
00:48:34,920 –> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: a Chiefs fan for fifty years, right, There’s been more

1092
00:48:37,600 –> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: lows than there have been highs. But now you sort

1093
00:48:39,560 –> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: of expect every Sunday that Patrick Holmes is going to

1094
00:48:41,880 –> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: look like the goat and that they’re gonna win comfortably

1095
00:48:44,280 –> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 4: every week. And what I’m almost begging all of you

1096
00:48:47,440 –> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: and I have to do it now too, is enjoy

1097
00:48:50,239 –> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: the process.

1098
00:48:51,280 –> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 5: Enjoy watching football. Enjoy that this Chiefs.

1099
00:48:55,000 –> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: Team has arguably one of the greatest coaches of all time,

1100
00:48:58,600 –> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: may go down as the greatest quarter of all the time,

1101
00:49:00,880 –> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: the greatest tight end ever playing one of the best

1102
00:49:02,840 –> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: defensive tackles we’ll ever see play in the National Football League.

1103
00:49:06,360 –> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: So literally, I beg of you enjoyed this process. They’re

1104
00:49:09,040 –> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: gonna figure it out. They’re gonna get in the postseason.

1105
00:49:11,080 –> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: And one thing I can promise you is nobody wants

1106
00:49:13,880 –> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: to play Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs.

1107
00:49:15,960 –> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 4: So everyone enjoyed the process. Take those expectations down a hair,

1108
00:49:20,080 –> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: find a way to cut out some wins, get in

1109
00:49:21,960 –> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and I love the Chiefs.

1110
00:49:23,480 –> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 5: Chances on to you, Matt.

1111
00:49:25,120 –> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: You fire me up. You know that you get me excited.

1112
00:49:27,800 –> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: I’m fired up to attack this thing. My final thought

1113
00:49:30,800 –> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: is kind of a two parter. I sort of talked

1114
00:49:32,400 –> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: about this with Mitch a little bit earlier already, but

1115
00:49:35,680 –> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: I’ll have this part with you. I’ve had so much

1116
00:49:37,960 –> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: fun doing this like football and family thing, Like the

1117
00:49:40,080 –> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Bills game, my parents were front row at high Mark Stadium,

1118
00:49:42,840 –> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: and then my wife was at the Broncos game with

1119
00:49:45,239 –> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: her family a few days ago. Unfortunately both losses. Maybe

1120
00:49:49,160 –> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: I should stop bringing family members to these road games,

1121
00:49:51,440 –> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: is what I’m taking away from this. But the part

1122
00:49:53,960 –> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: that I already told Mitch, but I’ll mention it to

1123
00:49:55,719 –> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: you because you’ll love this is Ellie was like ninety

1124
00:49:58,880 –> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent Chiefs fan at this point, right,

1125
00:50:01,360 –> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: I’ve converted her fully from being someone that grew up

1126
00:50:03,760 –> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: in Colorado going to Broncos games of fully converting to

1127
00:50:06,680 –> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: being a Chiefs fan. But I think the game on

1128
00:50:10,040 –> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: Sunday was the final point for her where she is

1129
00:50:13,280 –> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: now one hundred percent on board because you know, Chiefs lose,

1130
00:50:17,400 –> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: bummed out, Like I’m just kind of sitting and getting

1131
00:50:19,160 –> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: my thoughts together before we did, Chiefs rewind and she

1132
00:50:22,280 –> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: texts me, Man, I hate the Broncos and I’m like,

1133
00:50:25,520 –> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: we have truly come full circle of Yes.

1134
00:50:28,280 –> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: There it is.

1135
00:50:28,880 –> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: When I first met her, like she was giving me

1136
00:50:30,560 –> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: a hard time for being a Chiefs fan, and she

1137
00:50:32,120 –> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: was talking about Super Bowl fifty. This is like nine

1138
00:50:34,440 –> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: years ago, you know. And now she’s texting me, man,

1139
00:50:36,719 –> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: I hate the Broncos And she’s holding their head up

1140
00:50:38,480 –> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: high walking out of mile High with the chief skieron,

1141
00:50:41,400 –> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: and people are chirping at her and she’s giving them looks,

1142
00:50:44,120 –> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: you know, like I love it. So and on a

1143
00:50:46,800 –> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: night where not a lot went right for the Chiefs

1144
00:50:48,760 –> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: in terms of the result, at least I know my

1145
00:50:50,400 –> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: wife is now fully on board. She was tested and

1146
00:50:52,640 –> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: she passed the test. That’s awesome. I absolutely love that.

1147
00:50:56,520 –> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 4: Before we go, I do want to say I want

1148
00:50:58,360 –> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: to give thanks to the people at the Chiefs who

1149
00:51:00,239 –> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: help get this awesome new background. I mean, it’s a

1150
00:51:02,680 –> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: gorgeous shot of Arrowhead Well, I think is the most

1151
00:51:05,719 –> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: one of the most iconic venues in all of sports.

1152
00:51:08,040 –> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: So the Chiefs, you guys came through to set us

1153
00:51:10,760 –> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: up here on out West, so big thanks. Everybody will

1154
00:51:13,040 –> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: help make that possible.

1155
00:51:14,040 –> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: Matt Well, I find a way to mail not one

1156
00:51:16,840 –> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: group of items, but also I find a way to

1157
00:51:18,680 –> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: mail the stuff behind you. It got out there, you

1158
00:51:21,239 –> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: find a way to put it up. Because we get

1159
00:51:22,680 –> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: the stuff to Ari finally and he’s like, all right,

1160
00:51:24,600 –> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: how do I put it up? And I’m like, I

1161
00:51:26,680 –> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: don’t know. He figured it out, though, So glad we

1162
00:51:29,680 –> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: finally have you in some gear and have a good backdrop.

1163
00:51:32,480 –> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: Mitch is going to miss the map of the world though, Yes,

1164
00:51:34,920 –> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: I might have to break that out from time to time.

1165
00:51:37,680 –> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: All Right, well, listen, this was a ton of fun.

1166
00:51:39,719 –> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: I wish the Chiefs well this week against the Colts.

1167
00:51:42,320 –> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 4: I will be watching. It should be fun. And that’s

1168
00:51:44,480 –> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: going to do it for this part of the podcast.

1169
00:51:47,080 –> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 4: Within the podcast out West with Ari Wolf done for

1170
00:51:49,400 –> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: this week.

1171
00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Take care of everybody, man, Alway’s on it. This guy’s comprehensive.

1172
00:51:53,800 –> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: It just won’t slow down. Really.

1173
00:51:55,239 –> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot to talk about right now. You know,

1174
00:51:57,760 –> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 2: the NFL is built around parody. The Chiefs have found

1175
00:52:00,920 –> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: a way to maintain so much success for so long.

1176
00:52:03,760 –> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: We’re going to keep it going here this year in

1177
00:52:05,560 –> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. But a lot of

1178
00:52:07,480 –> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: parody right now in the NFL, A lot of teams

1179
00:52:09,600 –> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: in it.

1180
00:52:10,360 –> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, special teams I think becomes part of the discussion too.

1181
00:52:13,040 –> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: In this one game season against the Colts, you look

1182
00:52:15,760 –> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: at what the Colts have done their number one in

1183
00:52:17,440 –> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: kick return average. You don’t get a lot of kick returns,

1184
00:52:21,000 –> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: but they’re good there, and then also number one in

1185
00:52:24,160 –> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: net punting. You talked about the physical nature of this

1186
00:52:26,640 –> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Colts team. I talk about exceeding it. That carries over

1187
00:52:29,320 –> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: to special teams, and so the Chiefs and special teams

1188
00:52:31,960 –> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: have had good moments, but they’ve also had the moments

1189
00:52:34,960 –> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: of the penalties or losing field position or not flipping

1190
00:52:38,080 –> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: the field when they had a chance to flip the field.

1191
00:52:39,760 –> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: That’s part of the missed opportunities. We talk about the

1192
00:52:42,840 –> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: missed offensive opportunities. Five times they’ve had the ball to well,

1193
00:52:47,560 –> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: actually four times where they did the double dip, and

1194
00:52:50,040 –> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: then the third quarter in the four losses, I should

1195
00:52:52,080 –> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: say nine times they have the first possession, third quarter

1196
00:52:54,760 –> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: in the four losses, three to three and outs in

1197
00:52:56,840 –> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: an interception in the five wins, five touchdowns at a

1198
00:53:00,400 –> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: critical moment. But it’s also critical for special teams in

1199
00:53:03,200 –> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: all four phases to exceed the physical nature of the

1200
00:53:07,360 –> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: Colt who love to live by that that’s another Chris

1201
00:53:09,960 –> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Ballard thing.

1202
00:53:10,680 –> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, look at the Chiefs five losses this year all

1203
00:53:13,600 –> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: by one score. So the Chiefs haven’t gotten throttled in

1204
00:53:17,239 –> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: any game this year. It’s all been by one score

1205
00:53:19,320 –> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: and it’s always come down to a really slim margin, right,

1206
00:53:22,560 –> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: and we saw that against Denver. Of course, three of

1207
00:53:24,680 –> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs five losses this year have come down to

1208
00:53:26,640 –> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: a three point deficit. So when games like that, or

1209
00:53:29,480 –> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are in all of these games and they

1210
00:53:31,920 –> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: have a chance to win all of these games, it

1211
00:53:34,200 –> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 2: boils down to little things like special teams. And yeah,

1212
00:53:36,960 –> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: if you look at the Broncos game, well the Marvin

1213
00:53:39,160 –> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Mems huge punt return that goes all the way down

1214
00:53:42,560 –> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: to the twelve yard line, and I mean the Chiefs

1215
00:53:45,160 –> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: defense was remarkable in that sequence because the drive begins

1216
00:53:48,280 –> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: inside the fifteen and they still hold Themver to a

1217
00:53:50,400 –> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: field goal. But still that’s three points and look at

1218
00:53:52,920 –> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: the final score, right, And there was other instances like

1219
00:53:55,840 –> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: that as well. I think about the Jags game earlier

1220
00:53:58,239 –> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: this year, which kind of explained a game the Chiefs

1221
00:54:01,200 –> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: had multiple times while there was multiple penalties on special teams.

1222
00:54:04,480 –> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I’m with you. The Chief special teams have

1223
00:54:06,960 –> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: had big moments this year, but in a game like

1224
00:54:09,840 –> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: this again, when you’re facing a very good team and

1225
00:54:12,480 –> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 2: I expect it’s going to come down to the last

1226
00:54:14,640 –> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: eight minutes, you want your special teams to be pristine

1227
00:54:17,320 –> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: and not allow the Colts to have even more opportunities

1228
00:54:20,120 –> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: because you look at this Colt squad, not a lot

1229
00:54:22,440 –> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: of weaknesses, and they really put pressure on you. And

1230
00:54:25,640 –> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: I look back at the Steelers game that the Colts

1231
00:54:27,840 –> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: lost earlier this year. Yeah, they turned the ball over

1232
00:54:30,280 –> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: six times. You can get these guys, but it’s difficult.

1233
00:54:33,520 –> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: They still only lost that game by a touchdown despite

1234
00:54:35,880 –> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: six giveaways. So let’s steal some possessions in this game.

1235
00:54:38,719 –> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: Let’s play really sound football on special teams, and let’s

1236
00:54:41,880 –> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: finish in the red zone offensively, and the Chiefs can

1237
00:54:44,480 –> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: definitely win this game.

1238
00:54:45,560 –> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it gets my attention. Daniel Jones through for

1239
00:54:47,680 –> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: three to sixteen on Denver and I just I’m like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn’t realize that, But yes, you’re right. The margin

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Speaker 1: is very, very slim in these games, and special teams

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Speaker 1: can decide it one way or another. Very least feel

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Speaker 1: can have a pat eve locked. Now you’re going to

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Speaker 1: go up four. It’s going to be just It was

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Speaker 1: the reverse of what happened in Super Bowl fifty seven

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Speaker 1: when Leo Chanell blocked the San Francisco pat It only

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Speaker 1: killed some momentum, It made it a three point game.

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Speaker 1: It changes everything for Denver knowing that a field goal

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Speaker 1: will tie it. Yeah, well so they just their play

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Speaker 1: sheet now goes, oh, let’s add four more pages here.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about it. So when Denver tied the game,

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Speaker 2: I think it was fourth and six. So if they’re

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Speaker 2: down by four with five minutes left, you think they

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Speaker 2: kick the field goal, they go for it, and if

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Speaker 2: they don’t get it, you get the ball back with

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Speaker 2: great field position, a chance to just up four, up four,

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Speaker 2: you have a chance to just end the game with

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Speaker 2: the ball in your hands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it comes down to those little things and

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Speaker 2: I think we’ve experienced a lot of that this season.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs, though for so many years, have seized those

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Speaker 2: little things. That’s still there. Just a matter of doing

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Speaker 2: that over the course of the final seven games and

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Speaker 2: got to do it against these guys and.

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Speaker 1: Doing it in a one game season.

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