🎙️ ‘Why You Win’ – Chiefs vs. Raiders Preview w/ Chu Godrick | Defending The Kingdom

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Speaker 1: It’s the final regular season week of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five season, although the calendar will look at twenty twenty six. Still,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs play the Raiders. In Why you Win this game,

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Speaker 1: we’ll get into that, and of course Defending the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: including the victory in Super Bowl fifty eight, but this

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Speaker 1: and breaks a tackle touchdown Chansas City. However you want,

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Speaker 1: I’m a Chilta’s voice the Chiefs, along with senior team

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Speaker 1: reporter Matt McMullen, and happy new Year as we turn

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Speaker 1: the calendar to twenty twenty six. But we’ll finish the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season first, and we’ll do so in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas at Allegiant Stadium, signed that glorious sight of

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Speaker 1: that glorious victory over the forty nine ers. But this

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Speaker 1: time we’ll be in the regular season against the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and we’re going to go into why you win this game?

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Speaker 1: And already there will be how many half that’ll go no,

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Speaker 1: you don’t. You know, you don’t. You want to get

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Speaker 1: the draft pick. But we’ll get into why you win

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Speaker 1: this game and what it means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you’re right about how whenever we go to

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Speaker 2: Allegiance now it kind of warms my heart a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I’ll definitely be going to the spot where mcchole caught

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Speaker 2: the touchdown. I do that every time. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think this season has provided some incredible perspective, and

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Speaker 2: I like to think we already had the perspective, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes you can only really appreciate the triumphs when you

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Speaker 2: have a season like this. And yeah, I mean Sunday

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Speaker 2: in terms of the standings and everything doesn’t mean a

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Speaker 2: whole lot, but when you think about what we achieved

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Speaker 2: in that stadium, and like just the euphoria of that

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Speaker 2: moment and that night I was going back through photos

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Speaker 2: of me and my wife and our friend who we

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Speaker 2: brought along with my family, and some photos I have

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Speaker 2: with you right after Super Bowl fifty eight. Doesn’t get

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Speaker 2: any better than that, And going back to that stadium

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Speaker 2: will be fun. And I’m pretty sure I haven’t fact

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Speaker 2: checked this, but I’m pretty sure if Coach Reed wins

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Speaker 2: this game, he will have the most wins of any

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Speaker 2: head coach at Allegiant Stadium, not opposing coaches, any head

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Speaker 2: coach at Allegiant Stadium, including Raiders coaches. Yeah, that’s pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it’s been a rough go here for the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: If they lose this game, it’ll be a franchise record

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Speaker 1: fifteenth loss for them. But just going back the fact

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Speaker 1: that history was made in the stadium when the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: won back to back Super Bowls. As I mentioned on

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Speaker 1: the call six forty four days, I think it’s going

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Speaker 1: to be even harder to win back to back now

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Speaker 1: the way it’s set up in the National Football League

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Speaker 1: with a seventeenth game and only one by a week.

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Speaker 1: It was hard to do it then, it’s going to

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Speaker 1: be really hard to do it. Moving on, So anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: great memories here before we get into why you win

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Speaker 1: this game and you dig into to get it done.

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Speaker 1: What do we have around the world to start twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six? Yeah, I got three for you today, all right,

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Speaker 1: for Jon Stener Roud John Stener Rud who beat the

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Speaker 1: Raiders many times with his kicks, including a glorious last

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Speaker 1: game in AFL history, was a victory by the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: at the Old Coliseum beating John Madden’s Raiders as the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs went on their way to a Super Bowl four championship.

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Speaker 1: But the last AFL game victory, Jon stener Rood and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs get the win.

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Speaker 2: Let’s go Yeah, all right, so shout out to Sydney.

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Speaker 2: I was out to lunch with my in laws on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, so I guess it was dinner, not lunch,

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Speaker 2: but out to eat with my in laws on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: and Sydney was our waitress and apparently listens to DTK.

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Speaker 2: So not only was that great meeting of Sidney, it

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Speaker 2: also gave me some like browdie points with my in

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Speaker 2: a real job. So that was good.

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Speaker 1: But she recognized you probably yeah, law, I was like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I better give you more respects. It’s people recognize them

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Speaker 1: in pubblic.

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Speaker 2: I’ll take every little bit I can go now. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I’ll take the wins where I can get him. I

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Speaker 2: ran into John in the elevator on game day. I

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Speaker 2: already know the answer to this, but he had a

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Speaker 2: question for you. He wanted to know if you were

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Speaker 2: familiar with Neota Sha Kansas.

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Speaker 1: The Blue Streaks obviously, but so good that you said

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Speaker 1: Neota Sha.

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Speaker 2: I have it spelled phonetically on my sheet here.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that one gets butchered a lot. But

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Speaker 1: Nyoda Sha the Blue Streaks, if you’re familiar, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think they’re the only Blue Streaks left. There was a

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Speaker 1: private school that kind of morphed into what we know

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Speaker 1: now is Saint Thomas Aquinas, one of your old arrivals

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Speaker 1: in the e K with Blue Valley North Mustang. But

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Speaker 1: there was Shawnee Saint Joseph. In fact, the campus is

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Speaker 1: still there. It’s on Johnson Drive in Shawnee and the

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Speaker 1: old Shawnee town. But they also were the Blue Streaks.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. Former Cincinnati Bengal kicker Steve Willis was a

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Speaker 1: Shawnee Saint Joseph Blue Streak.

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Speaker 3: I like Blue.

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Speaker 1: Streaks, a cool name.

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Speaker 3: That’s good.

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Speaker 1: Unique, feels like an Air Force helmet, you know at

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Speaker 1: the Lightning Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, shout out to Matthew and Murphresboro, Tennessee. My mom

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Speaker 2: grew up near Murfreesborough. I’ve a saw spot in my

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Speaker 1: Little Tennessee State Blue Raiders while we’re on blue, Let’s go.

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Speaker 2: But he is originally from spring Hill, Kansas, home of

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Speaker 2: the the.

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Speaker 1: Bronx, the Bureau and CS or Broncos beera in CS.

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Speaker 2: Your dad wrote in for you, Matthew, so you have

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Speaker 2: him the thing for this. But shout out to you

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Speaker 2: and go spring Hill Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Spring Hill, Bronco is one of the fastest growing communities

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Speaker 1: and will grow even more in the years to come.

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Speaker 1: But a really good school district, great place to live,

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Speaker 1: and that enrollment’s blowing up in spring Hill. All right?

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Speaker 1: Why you win this game? The Chiefs. You just can’t

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Speaker 1: turn winning on and off. And let’s just be honest

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Speaker 1: about something. Since the victory over the Bills thirty two

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Speaker 1: to twenty nine in last year’s AFC Championship Game, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have been involved in I’m including the three preseason games,

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Speaker 1: have been involved in twenty games. It’s six and fourteen

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Speaker 1: in those twenty games. You can’t deny it. It’s there.

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Speaker 1: It’s a number. But to win this game, to me

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Speaker 1: is important. The Chiefs are so close to winning that

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Speaker 1: game against the Broncos and doing it with Chris oladok

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Speaker 1: And at quarterback and we’re gonna hear from Cheu Guidric

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Speaker 1: here in a second at right tackle and Esa Pole

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Speaker 1: at left tackle, and playing young guys like Cashon Gelattie

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Speaker 1: and Noel Williams and Brandon McDonald on defense. It would

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Speaker 1: have been super important to win that game because it

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Speaker 1: meant so much to Denver, but to win this game

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Speaker 1: actually to me as a springboard into the twenty six offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. You know, we talked about it going

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Speaker 2: into the Denver game and really going into the Tennessee game,

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Speaker 2: that the whole player development aspect of this time of

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Speaker 2: year that we’re trying to focus on, and how this

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Speaker 2: time of year can be used as a springboard going

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Speaker 2: into next season. Well, the player development isn’t just the

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Speaker 2: guys going in and playing like to me, it’s more

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Speaker 2: valuable if they can make like winning plays, players that

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Speaker 2: can help you be in a position to win a game.

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Speaker 2: And that’s why after the Denver game, as much as

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Speaker 2: I wanted to beat those guys, I came away very

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Speaker 2: encouraged from it because our guys were right in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a game that the opponent needed and was

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Speaker 2: giving everything they had, and our young players and our

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Speaker 2: developmental guys had an opportunity to make plays that mattered,

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Speaker 2: that were influential, that helped us be in a position

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Speaker 2: to have a chance in that game against a really

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Speaker 2: good opponent, a team that’s probably going to be the

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Speaker 2: one seed in the AFC. I mean, Burchard Smith being

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Speaker 2: right in the middle of it catching that touchdown reminded

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Speaker 2: me so much of Jareck McKennon on that touchdown, and

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Speaker 2: that’s kind of the role I hope he can grow

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Speaker 2: into next year. His punt return the forty four yard

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Speaker 2: are set up a field goal and kept us in

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Speaker 2: that game. Like those are the kind of plays to

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Speaker 2: me that he shows them now and maybe they become

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Speaker 2: commonplace next year. But you have to start somewhere. You

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Speaker 2: have to have the confidence that you can do it

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Speaker 2: beyond just doing it in practice. And for me seeing

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Speaker 2: that in a game, he’s going to attack this offseason

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Speaker 2: trading program knowing he can be that guy, which is exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: With Sipole and Chu Goderick against the best pass rush

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, a pass rush that had sixty three

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Speaker 2: sacks going into that game, well, Poule and Goderich they

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Speaker 2: combined for fifty two pass blocking snaps. They allowed his

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Speaker 2: four total pressures the entire game. Defensively, Noel Williams seventy

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Speaker 2: two defensive snaps against Denver, oftentimes against some good receivers,

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Speaker 2: guys like Courtland Sutton or Marvin Mems. He allowed just

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Speaker 2: four catches for twenty one yards on forty three coverage snaps.

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Speaker 2: Led the Chiefs with five defensive stops, so the tackles

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Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage, stopping the running back, stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. So lots of examples of this, But I

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Speaker 2: came away encouraged. And those plays didn’t happen in a

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Speaker 2: forty to nothing blowout. They happened in a game that

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs were in till the very end. I think

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Speaker 2: that’s beneficial.

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Speaker 1: And Chris Olodoka now has engineered six scoring drives in

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Speaker 1: seven quarters, and he’s looked good doing it. He’s had

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Speaker 1: to improvise, he’s shown poise, he’s shown a little bit

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Speaker 1: of some mahomes mahomes the and impersonations. But you can

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Speaker 1: see that and feel the sense of the confidence around him.

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Speaker 1: Why is it important. There’s so many big decisions that

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Speaker 1: have to be made, and those will start being made

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Speaker 1: as soon as next week. But Chris Olodokan now is

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Speaker 1: showing us even more than he showed us in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and he’s doing it in regular season. He’s been around

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Speaker 1: in this system for four years, but now you’re starting

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Speaker 1: to see it payoff and his plays again using his feet,

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Speaker 1: but going against the number. One part of the reasons

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Speaker 1: that the Broncos only had one sack in that game

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Speaker 1: and was none from Jonathan Cooper or Nick Benito was

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Speaker 1: the poise and the mobility of Chris olodokin So if

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Speaker 1: he plays and balls out in this game, you start

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Speaker 1: to have that discussion of maybe he’s your guy that’s

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Speaker 1: the vice president going into twenty twenty six, because somebody’s

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Speaker 1: going to have to run and be the quarterback for

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Speaker 1: OTAs and mini camps and even training camp to get

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Speaker 1: this team ready to go, all of the team ready

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Speaker 1: to go, and that could be Oldodokan.

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Speaker 2: He has the benefit of being in the system for

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Speaker 2: four years now where he understands the playbook. Like one

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Speaker 2: question I have, let’s say Gardner Minshew isn’t able to

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Speaker 1: NFL real good shot if he wins this game. The

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Speaker 1: People have asked, who’s number seventy two, Well, it’s Chuku

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Speaker 1: What has this been like because it’s like throwing you too.

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Speaker 5: Been in this building for three years now, just you know,

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Speaker 2: So what started at the beginning? How did you first

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Speaker 1: The pride you have in your heritage, Charles Amenehu comes

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Speaker 3: No, that’s big for me.

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Speaker 5: Every time I’m out on the field, It’s in the

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Speaker 2: How much awareness of American football is there in Nigeria?

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Speaker 1: We talked about the connections here with the African continent,

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Speaker 2: So when you first got here obviously pretty inexperienced, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean my mentality coming in is do what you

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Speaker 3: That I could be better at.

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Speaker 1: In the huddle and you’re looking at us a poli.

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Speaker 5: No man as a dog. You know, he came me

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Speaker 2: During your time here, which one of your teammates that

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Speaker 2: Have you learned the most from over the years.

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Speaker 3: I’ve learned something from everybody.

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Speaker 5: I cannodd ote to you, from Donovan Smith to Prince Taga,

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Speaker 5: from Wayyam Morris, Jalen Moore, like it’s DJ Humphrey. It’s

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Speaker 2: It’s pretty cool. Any of those guys that aren’t here

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Speaker 5: you know, you got all it takes to play and

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Speaker 5: I believe I’m gonna see on that field. And he

422
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Speaker 5: definitely texted me after he was like, I’m reready proud of.

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Speaker 3: You, my guy.

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Speaker 2: That’s awesome.

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Speaker 1: Final question with Chris Holodokin, who also has some African

426
00:19:21,720 –> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 1: heritage in his background, but helping Chris and what Chris

427
00:19:26,240 –> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: has done for you guys, or this confidence that’s going

428
00:19:28,720 –> 00:19:31,239
Speaker 1: back and forth going into this Raiders game. How much

429
00:19:31,280 –> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: has that grown and even just the last seven quarters. Yeah, man,

430
00:19:35,600 –> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 1: Chris a dog. Also, that’s one thing you’re gonna learn

431
00:19:37,800 –> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 1: this This team is full of dogs.

432
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Speaker 5: And then you know opportunity of scars and then you

433
00:19:42,000 –> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 5: know you’ve seen it now that when you let you

434
00:19:44,800 –> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 5: would let the leash off a dog, he’s gonna go

435
00:19:46,600 –> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 5: out there and do what he do. And Chris a

436
00:19:48,480 –> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 5: dogg You’ve seen that from you know, taking scout team

437
00:19:51,119 –> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 5: right for him. We played a lot of games together

438
00:19:53,160 –> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 5: in preseason, so I was thinking by the other day,

439
00:19:55,560 –> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 5: like it’s crazy how far we come from, you know,

440
00:19:58,160 –> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 5: playing third string team preseasons, actually being the starts for

441
00:20:02,400 –> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 5: this great team, and it’s just it’s a blessing. And

442
00:20:06,040 –> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 5: you know, I’m proud of him for, you know, coming

443
00:20:09,400 –> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 5: into his own in the moment and just doing what

444
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Speaker 5: he’s doing.

445
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Speaker 1: We have taken the leash off this dog, Chew Dog,

446
00:20:16,760 –> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: Cheu Godric. I like that Tew dog, Cheu Godric. We’ve

447
00:20:22,040 –> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 1: seen him around for three years, We’ve seen him play

448
00:20:24,680 –> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: some preseason, watch him at camp, and now he’s the

449
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Speaker 1: right tackle. Yeah. And he and Esa Pole are two

450
00:20:32,359 –> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest stories to me over the past three

451
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Speaker 1: weeks of this whole era after being eliminated from the playoffs,

452
00:20:38,800 –> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: of what do you have going into twenty twenty six?

453
00:20:41,280 –> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: Can you get tackle depth at the least, can you

454
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Speaker 1: find a swing tackle at the most, maybe even a

455
00:20:46,160 –> 00:20:49,239
Speaker 1: starting tackle? But with Chew and Essa, it’s really an

456
00:20:49,280 –> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: emerging story. Yeah, it is.

457
00:20:50,880 –> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, neither guy played high school football. Pretty amazing

458
00:20:54,600 –> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: and in the case of Chew, kind of similar to

459
00:20:57,000 –> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: chrys Olodoakin where he’s just been here biding his time

460
00:21:00,359 –> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: learning everything he can, soaking up all the knowledge of

461
00:21:03,320 –> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: the people around him. I thought it was cool when

462
00:21:05,119 –> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: he kind of listed off the different players who had

463
00:21:06,880 –> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: impacted him. You know, some guys still here something no

464
00:21:09,040 –> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: longer here. You take a little bit from all those guys.

465
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Speaker 2: And I mean a player like Chew didn’t play football

466
00:21:14,800 –> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: growing up, at least American football, right. I mean, he

467
00:21:17,320 –> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: wanted to play soccer and basketball. But he’s a great

468
00:21:20,000 –> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: athlete and he’s kind of a sponge and it just

469
00:21:22,400 –> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: wants to learn all that he can. It’s cool to

470
00:21:24,440 –> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 2: see his journey from a player who had never been

471
00:21:27,920 –> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: on a football field before to starting a game in

472
00:21:31,359 –> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: Kansas City against a really good pass rush and holding

473
00:21:33,760 –> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 2: his own and playing pretty well. For both him and Essa.

474
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Speaker 2: It’s interesting because they’re developmental prospects, right, And the only

475
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Speaker 2: way you ever really know what you have in a

476
00:21:44,280 –> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: developmental prospect and if they’re ready for the moment, is

477
00:21:47,600 –> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: they have to go out there and play. And the

478
00:21:50,080 –> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: reality has been over the years like there just wasn’t

479
00:21:52,800 –> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: an opportunity here for a guy like Chew to go

480
00:21:54,920 –> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: out there and play. But it’s almost like a blessing

481
00:21:57,920 –> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: in disguise the way the season has gone. Considering you

482
00:22:00,880 –> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: have to find the positives in our circumstances that because

483
00:22:03,240 –> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 2: of our injuries and we have a lot of them.

484
00:22:05,000 –> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: We have twenty guys on IR right now. You have

485
00:22:07,800 –> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: no choice but to put Essa and Shoe in there

486
00:22:10,040 –> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: and say, all right, guys, let’s figure out what you got.

487
00:22:12,400 –> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: Let’s see how you do. And you, as an evaluator

488
00:22:15,600 –> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: and as a coaching staff in a front office, you

489
00:22:17,560 –> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 2: figure out what you have in those players. And the

490
00:22:19,960 –> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: pleasant surprise here is I think we might have something

491
00:22:22,320 –> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: in both of them. And we wouldn’t have known that

492
00:22:24,400 –> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 2: if we didn’t have these injuries. So you never want

493
00:22:27,480 –> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: people to get hurt. And the circumstances have been a

494
00:22:29,359 –> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: bummer this year, but I do hope that we look

495
00:22:32,040 –> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: down the line and say, hey, because of our circumstances,

496
00:22:34,480 –> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 2: we found out we had a couple of players here

497
00:22:37,000 –> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: that we might not have ever known if we had

498
00:22:39,359 –> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: something there, and we might and Chee and Vanessa.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I did a story on this a couple of

500
00:22:45,080 –> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: years ago, but it almost it’s time to maybe look

501
00:22:49,560 –> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: this even more so so. The continent of Africa is

502
00:22:52,920 –> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: having a real influence on the National Football League more

503
00:22:55,280 –> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: and more and more, and most of it is coming

504
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Speaker 1: from Nigeria. If you look at even Charles Amena, who

505
00:23:01,240 –> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: his background, his Nigerian heritage, but David and Joku, justin Metabike,

506
00:23:07,359 –> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: there’s just lists of guys on and on that have

507
00:23:11,000 –> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: either first or second generation ties to the country of

508
00:23:15,080 –> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: Nigeria within the African continent. But it’s going to only grow.

509
00:23:20,480 –> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: And Cho said, there’s athletes all over the place, and

510
00:23:23,480 –> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: there’s now more of an infrastructure or lack of a

511
00:23:27,760 –> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: better term, pathway into the National Football League and especially

512
00:23:31,960 –> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: through the IPP. All Right, this game the Raiders, you

513
00:23:37,280 –> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: go down and look at the statistics, especially in offense.

514
00:23:40,800 –> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: They’re at rock bottom in almost everything. And yet the

515
00:23:48,000 –> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: eighteen interceptions thrown by Gino Smith has just been ghastly.

516
00:23:51,400 –> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: But now he’s heard he’s a high ankle sprain, and

517
00:23:54,040 –> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: so you’re going to get picket Kenny Pickett. Now, Kenny

518
00:23:57,040 –> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: Pickett’s won fifteen games as a starter in the National

519
00:23:59,600 –> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: Football League. He’s fifteen and eleven. And now they have

520
00:24:02,560 –> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett on the team. They’ve shut down brock Bowers,

521
00:24:06,200 –> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: but Michael Mayer became a factor, especially last week against

522
00:24:09,680 –> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, and then Ashton Genty. Ashton Jenny

523
00:24:13,080 –> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: did something two weeks ago that only three other players

524
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Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL have done is a

525
00:24:17,760 –> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: rookie a fifty yard touchdown rushing. He had a fifty

526
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Speaker 1: one yarder in a fifty yard reception for a touchdown.

527
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Speaker 1: In the same game. He had a sixty one yard

528
00:24:27,480 –> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: reception in that game. It’s against the Houston Texans, a

529
00:24:30,480 –> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: game that Houston had to have is very similar to

530
00:24:33,119 –> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs game against the Broncos. Houston pulls it out,

531
00:24:36,840 –> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: but it was twenty three to twenty. Ashton Jenny was

532
00:24:39,320 –> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: explosive in that game. And only three other players in

533
00:24:42,320 –> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: NFL history done it Hadmon Duneince Clinton Porters back when

534
00:24:45,560 –> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: he was a Bronco running back, but Gail Sayers is

535
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Speaker 1: on that list. So there’s enough here for the Raiders

536
00:24:52,000 –> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: to be dangerous, I think, especially since Kenny Pickett’s probably

537
00:24:55,400 –> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback.

538
00:24:56,480 –> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny Pickett’s one of those players that I mean

539
00:24:59,280 –> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: might have an opportunit we need to start elsewhere in

540
00:25:01,320 –> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: the NFL and be a regular starter at some point.

541
00:25:03,520 –> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: I think he’s talented enough. You know, this is an

542
00:25:06,359 –> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: example of how life does come at you fast. Because

543
00:25:09,240 –> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: I think about the last time we played these guys,

544
00:25:11,760 –> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: I think that got us to four and three is

545
00:25:14,280 –> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: that right? Yeah, four and three, and we just completely

546
00:25:16,680 –> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: dominated the Raiders in all three phases, held them to

547
00:25:19,800 –> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: only thirty offensive plays. It was like the second fewest

548
00:25:22,800 –> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: plays in a regular season game since like nineteen ninety eight.

549
00:25:26,640 –> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: We were feeling really good after that game and beat

550
00:25:28,840 –> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: the Commanders after that and five and three around Halloween.

551
00:25:32,080 –> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Reality is, things just have not gone our way since then,

552
00:25:34,880 –> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: but got to finish this thing out strong. And the

553
00:25:37,200 –> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: Raiders have not had anything go their way all season long,

554
00:25:40,280 –> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: except for Week one when they somehow beat the Patriots

555
00:25:42,720 –> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: on the road, which football is crazy. I don’t know

556
00:25:45,480 –> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: how they managed to do that, but you’re right, they

557
00:25:48,359 –> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: do have some pretty good players and even though things

558
00:25:50,240 –> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: haven’t gone well for them, could provide another good evaluation

559
00:25:53,400 –> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: opportunity for some of our young guys. And one player

560
00:25:56,359 –> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: who’s not a young player, but a player that I

561
00:25:58,440 –> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: am eager to watch more of, Christian Fulton. Because Fulton,

562
00:26:03,119 –> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: if you go back to our stuff during the offseason,

563
00:26:05,240 –> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: we were fired up about that signing, Like we saw

564
00:26:07,920 –> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Christian Fulton as we.

565
00:26:09,040 –> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Saun well, we got that guy.

566
00:26:14,640 –> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: We got that guy, but you know, we saw him

567
00:26:17,160 –> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: as a player who could be a starting corner for us,

568
00:26:19,240 –> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: and particularly a nickel you could bounce Trip McDuffie inside,

569
00:26:22,680 –> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: and that’s a really good trio of corners with Jalen

570
00:26:25,240 –> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: Watson as well.

571
00:26:26,680 –> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: Well.

572
00:26:27,320 –> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Fulton was hurt the entire offseason training program, didn’t participate

573
00:26:31,119 –> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: in training camp hardly at all if I remember right, uh,

574
00:26:34,600 –> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: and really never fully got going as a starter on

575
00:26:36,800 –> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: our defense until Thursday, when he was healthy and acquainted

576
00:26:40,840 –> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: enough with the scheme that he could go out there

577
00:26:42,560 –> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: and play. And I mean he was excellent against Denver.

578
00:26:45,440 –> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: He played all but one defensive snap in that game,

579
00:26:48,240 –> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: allowed just one catch on forty five coverage snaps, and

580
00:26:51,520 –> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: often against Cortland Sutton and played really well right in

581
00:26:54,160 –> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: the middle of the interception that Nick Bolton got. So

582
00:26:57,040 –> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: Christian Fulton showed me some things. And he’s on a

583
00:26:59,160 –> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: two year deal, so he’s under contract for next year.

584
00:27:01,920 –> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: This is another opportunity, I think, to see what we

585
00:27:04,720 –> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: have in Christian Fulton and can he be a starting

586
00:27:08,200 –> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: corner for this team next year? And yeah, I mean

587
00:27:11,280 –> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: the Raiders offense has not been good. But if he

588
00:27:13,240 –> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: goes out there again and can handle the scheme and

589
00:27:15,480 –> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: plays well against Las Vegas, gives me confidence that we

590
00:27:19,040 –> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: can attack the off season training program. Knowing we have

591
00:27:21,400 –> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: a starting caliber corner in Christian Fulton, so developmental opportunity

592
00:27:26,280 –> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: against these Raiders and seeing guys that Christian Fulton go

593
00:27:28,880 –> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: out there and try to stack some good games together

594
00:27:31,040 –> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: before we attack the offseason.

595
00:27:32,760 –> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: Another reason to try to win this game. We’ll get

596
00:27:36,640 –> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: the draft selection. We’ll take where we get in the draft. Okay,

597
00:27:40,000 –> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey was a third round pick. If you go

598
00:27:42,760 –> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: from nine to eleven, you don’t necessarily change for franchise.

599
00:27:47,560 –> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: So win the game. Of all the reasons we’ve mentioned,

600
00:27:50,240 –> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: another reason is Ari Wolf, our spy in the AFC West.

601
00:27:54,880 –> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Ari needs a little something to get him into the

602
00:27:57,040 –> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: offseason and he would like a win over the Raiders.

603
00:28:00,160 –> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Is to get this done, to get a seventh win

604
00:28:03,040 –> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: on the season.

605
00:28:04,480 –> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: Hello to everyone, and welcome to out West with Ari Wolf.

606
00:28:07,920 –> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: It is the final week of the regular season, Week eighteen.

607
00:28:11,359 –> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: Where has the time gone? I can’t believe the regular

608
00:28:14,280 –> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: season is going to end this weekend. Thrilled to be

609
00:28:17,520 –> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: joined by Ma McMullan and Matt. When we look at

610
00:28:20,200 –> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: this season, I think back to right before training camp

611
00:28:23,359 –> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: when you and I have our annual conversation sort of

612
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: getting ourselves juiced up. We’re getting into the weeds on

613
00:28:27,880 –> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: the roster, and here we are as the last week

614
00:28:30,800 –> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 4: of the season. Things have definitely didn’t go as expected.

615
00:28:34,480 –> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: There’s something about an NFL season. No, I think it’s

616
00:28:37,400 –> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: like a Shakespearean drama every season, right, think about last

617
00:28:41,280 –> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: year all those close wins, right, all those games that

618
00:28:44,080 –> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: the Chiefs found a way to win one score games,

619
00:28:46,040 –> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: and then this year they don’t win those one score games.

620
00:28:49,200 –> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: It’s kind of hard to summarize it. But before we

621
00:28:51,120 –> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: get into the AFC West or like, how do you

622
00:28:53,360 –> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: feel about the fact that it’s week eighteen and this

623
00:28:55,640 –> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five regular season is coming gone?

624
00:28:58,440 –> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, based on how the chief see and has gone,

625
00:29:01,280 –> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: I am welcoming twenty twenty six and you know, an

626
00:29:04,960 –> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: opportunity to get after next season, after how this season went.

627
00:29:07,920 –> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: But what I think it shows both the chief season

628
00:29:10,360 –> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: and everything else going on around the NFL. The reason

629
00:29:13,840 –> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: the NFL is the best and the most entertaining and

630
00:29:17,160 –> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: most compelling professional sports league in the world in my opinion,

631
00:29:20,920 –> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: is because of the parody and because every team has

632
00:29:24,600 –> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: a chance every year. You can look at whoever has

633
00:29:27,200 –> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick in the draft this year,

634
00:29:30,240 –> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: that team has a shot to make a run next year,

635
00:29:33,480 –> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: just based on how these things work out. You know,

636
00:29:36,120 –> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: you look at the chief situation. What you just laid

637
00:29:38,560 –> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: out shows how thin the margin is where I don’t

638
00:29:41,760 –> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are a six and ten team. I

639
00:29:44,520 –> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: think we’re much better than that. But you can look

640
00:29:46,320 –> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: at last year’s team and say, hey, maybe that wasn’t

641
00:29:48,160 –> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: a fifteen and two team. Maybe both teams are somewhere

642
00:29:50,560 –> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: in the middle, right, And sometimes the ball bounces your way,

643
00:29:53,960 –> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes you make a play in a

644
00:29:56,160 –> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: big moment, sometimes you don’t. And the difference is a

645
00:29:58,880 –> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: fifteen and two season going to the Super Bowl and

646
00:30:01,760 –> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: a six and ten season where we’ve been eliminated already

647
00:30:04,240 –> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks. And on the grander scale,

648
00:30:06,560 –> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: I mean, look at teams like the Patriots making a

649
00:30:08,560 –> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: run out of seemingly nowhere. Look at Chicago, look at

650
00:30:13,040 –> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Carolina making a run at the division. Jacksonville is a

651
00:30:16,640 –> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: shot to make a run in the playoffs. So I

652
00:30:19,200 –> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: think the parody is really cool and it’s compelling. I

653
00:30:21,680 –> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: wish the Chiefs were in this thing. It’s a weird

654
00:30:23,960 –> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: feeling them not being in it. But overall, I think

655
00:30:27,080 –> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: what we’ve seen this year shows why the NFL is

656
00:30:29,440 –> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: the absolute best and part of why.

657
00:30:31,600 –> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: I believe it’s the absolute best. And you and I

658
00:30:33,240 –> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: touched on this about a month ago. Is it where

659
00:30:36,600 –> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: you finish in your division has such an impact on

660
00:30:38,840 –> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: your schedule the following season. So you know the Chiefs

661
00:30:41,200 –> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: are going to play a third place schedule next year,

662
00:30:43,880 –> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: it’s gonna be very different than you know, being in

663
00:30:45,680 –> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: first place every single year for nine straight years. So

664
00:30:48,520 –> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: the schedule will actually should help the Chiefs next year. No, granted,

665
00:30:52,320 –> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: sometimes you can’t control what other divisions you play. That

666
00:30:54,640 –> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: division could be having a great year coming up, but

667
00:30:56,920 –> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: you know, the way it’s mapped out, and that’s why

668
00:30:59,560 –> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: the parody as beautiful is that every team really does

669
00:31:02,160 –> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: and the way we set up the draft, the way

670
00:31:03,880 –> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: they do everything in the NFL is designed itself for parody.

671
00:31:07,200 –> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: So you know, you may look at a team this

672
00:31:08,560 –> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: year that’s a six win team, it might be a

673
00:31:10,760 –> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: thirteen win team the following season, as we’ve seen them

674
00:31:13,640 –> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: a couple of teams. All right, let’s get in to

675
00:31:15,920 –> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: the AMC West. So we focused on throughout the year

676
00:31:19,040 –> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: in this segment, and we don’t talk a lot about

677
00:31:21,400 –> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: the Chiefs during this segment, but I want to say something.

678
00:31:24,120 –> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: They’ve played against the Broncos on Christmas, and you don’t

679
00:31:27,200 –> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: have Patrick Mahomes, you don’t have Gardner Manshew. You’re as

680
00:31:31,240 –> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: big an underdog as you’ve been at home and as

681
00:31:33,080 –> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: far as I can remember. I mean literally, we’re going

682
00:31:35,080 –> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: back to like a three and thirteen year right year,

683
00:31:37,520 –> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: I mean over a decade. It’s just interesting to me

684
00:31:41,960 –> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 4: to look at what Andy Reid and this team accomplished

685
00:31:44,760 –> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: in that game. Did Chris Ola Docin throw it down

686
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Speaker 4: the field and throw it from three hundred?

687
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Speaker 5: No?

688
00:31:48,560 –> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: But did he manage the game well enough for the

689
00:31:50,120 –> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: Chiefs to win?

690
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Speaker 3: Yes.

691
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Speaker 4: I just thought that the effort that the team played

692
00:31:54,200 –> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: with how prepared they were to give themselves a chance

693
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Speaker 4: at the very end of the game against a team

694
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Speaker 4: that may will be the number one seed in the AFC.

695
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Speaker 4: And I realized, with a franchise had this much success,

696
00:32:05,040 –> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: there’s no sort of moral victories. But I guess I

697
00:32:07,960 –> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: just came over with a great feeling of pride about

698
00:32:10,080 –> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: the way they went about their business to Chiefs that

699
00:32:12,320 –> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: they didn’t lay down for everyone. They were in that

700
00:32:14,320 –> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: game till the last possible moment. So I just wanted

701
00:32:16,920 –> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: to kind of give you a roundable applause, if you will,

702
00:32:19,680 –> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: to the organization and how they’re handling one of the

703
00:32:22,240 –> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: toughest seasons they’ve had in a really long time. And

704
00:32:24,360 –> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: I thought the way the team played on Christmas in

705
00:32:27,440 –> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: a game that had no meaning to him, tells you

706
00:32:29,360 –> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: a lot about the character of the people in the building.

707
00:32:31,640 –> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it shows the heart of a champion.

708
00:32:33,880 –> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: And listen, we’ve seen the Chiefs make incredible plays and

709
00:32:38,000 –> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: come up clutch in some of the most critical games

710
00:32:42,280 –> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: in the last ten years over this run. Obviously not

711
00:32:45,680 –> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: the case this year, but that doesn’t mean we’re going

712
00:32:47,720 –> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: to make it easy on the opponent, and especially a

713
00:32:50,080 –> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: divisional opponent. You’re not going to just come in here

714
00:32:53,360 –> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: and win no problem and march your way to the

715
00:32:55,960 –> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: division title. We’re going to make you earn it. And

716
00:32:58,240 –> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: I love that that shows the culture and the carecharacter

717
00:33:00,360 –> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: here that yeah, it’s been a down year, but the

718
00:33:03,120 –> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: mentality has remained the same, and next year, hopefully after

719
00:33:07,040 –> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: we kind of retool a little bit this offseason, that

720
00:33:09,560 –> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: culture will still be there, and I hope you and

721
00:33:11,560 –> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: I are talking about a division champion, right That’s where

722
00:33:14,400 –> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: it begins, and that starts with coach Reid. And even

723
00:33:17,480 –> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: though Patrick Mahomes wasn’t playing in the game, it felt

724
00:33:20,280 –> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: like a kind of game Patrick Mahomes would have led

725
00:33:22,320 –> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: right where, Hey, if you beat us, it’s because you

726
00:33:25,440 –> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: beat us. And credit to a lot of our young

727
00:33:28,320 –> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: and developmental guys that were out there giving it. They’re

728
00:33:30,800 –> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: all I thought. We saw some good things from Noel

729
00:33:32,680 –> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: Williams in that game. He played every defensive snap. Fired

730
00:33:35,680 –> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: up about him. Brashard Smith had a big game with

731
00:33:37,960 –> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: a couple of big plays. Ashton Galotti played a lot.

732
00:33:40,840 –> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Cooper McDonald who was a tryout player. We talked about

733
00:33:43,840 –> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: him at lunchway back in Saint Joe, a tryout player

734
00:33:46,640 –> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: who underspot on this team and played the twenty one

735
00:33:49,480 –> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: defensive snaps against Denver. A lot of good examples of

736
00:33:53,240 –> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: development that took place. And that guy’s just playing. Like

737
00:33:55,960 –> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: one thing I’ve talked about is I don’t want to

738
00:33:57,400 –> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: see these young players just play. I want them to

739
00:33:59,640 –> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: make winning plays, to be in the middle of a

740
00:34:02,120 –> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: situation where they helped their team have a chance to win,

741
00:34:04,760 –> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: because that’s how you really grow, I think, and we

742
00:34:07,640 –> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: saw that on Thursday. So I wish we won. I mean,

743
00:34:10,640 –> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: it was so close, and I’m glad we made the

744
00:34:12,800 –> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: Broncos sweat a little bit. My in law is being

745
00:34:15,880 –> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Broncos fans after the game. I was like, did you

746
00:34:19,040 –> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: feel that one who’s a heart thumping a little bit?

747
00:34:20,600 –> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: And they’re like, yeah, you know, they didn’t feel great

748
00:34:22,880 –> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: about it. So anyway, I was proud of the team

749
00:34:25,280 –> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: and how they fought. And I think that’s the kind

750
00:34:27,400 –> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: of game hopefully we’re talking about next year saying, hey,

751
00:34:30,280 –> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: that’s where a lot of these young players really kind

752
00:34:32,160 –> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: of developed the confidence that they could do this at

753
00:34:34,840 –> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: this level. And now we’re talking about, you know, winning

754
00:34:37,239 –> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: a division because of plays that they made next season.

755
00:34:40,400 –> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: All right, Well, our focus is we’ve talked about throughout

756
00:34:42,680 –> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: this season, has been on this division, the AFC West.

757
00:34:45,080 –> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: So we got to get props to the Denver Broncos.

758
00:34:47,440 –> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: This was not what I thought was going to be

759
00:34:48,760 –> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: a thirteen or fourteen win team. I thought Sean Payton

760
00:34:51,760 –> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: put them under a microscope talking about them being a

761
00:34:54,280 –> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: super Bowl caliber team. He knew what he was doing.

762
00:34:57,239 –> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 4: I mean, what he’s done with a second year quarterback

763
00:34:59,360 –> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: and bo Nicks will Granted they won a lot of

764
00:35:01,480 –> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: close games, but look over the course of seventeen weeks,

765
00:35:05,560 –> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: I think we learned enough to know that the Broncos did,

766
00:35:07,760 –> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: in fact deserve to win the division. So credit to

767
00:35:10,680 –> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos. This is the team I think will

768
00:35:13,160 –> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: be a tough out in the playoffs or potentially could

769
00:35:15,680 –> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: lose their first playoff game. I really don’t know. I

770
00:35:17,800 –> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: think it’s so wide open in the AFC. So congratsate Broncos.

771
00:35:22,520 –> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: Let’s move to the Chargers. A very different story. In

772
00:35:25,560 –> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: the Charger game against the Houston Texans, the Texans beat

773
00:35:29,680 –> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 4: them up and it was a little bit like the

774
00:35:31,840 –> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: playoff game last year. You know, you sort of thought that,

775
00:35:34,840 –> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, the Chargers were going to be the team

776
00:35:36,520 –> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: that was gonna win, but that Texans defense got after

777
00:35:40,040 –> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: justin Herbert, he took another beating. They got just enough offense,

778
00:35:43,680 –> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: particularly early from c. J. Stroud with two big touchdown

779
00:35:46,800 –> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: passes in the first quarter. Houston’s a team that started

780
00:35:50,719 –> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: zero and three. I mean, think about that, eleven and two.

781
00:35:54,360 –> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: Soon said, so this is a team right now as

782
00:35:56,400 –> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: hot as anybody what were your takeaways from the Chargers

783
00:35:59,080 –> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: in the Texans.

784
00:36:00,200 –> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: Well, it was nice to see a game that we

785
00:36:01,800 –> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: talk about on here actually play out the way that

786
00:36:04,200 –> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: we discussed, you know, and it’s what we thought might happen.

787
00:36:07,520 –> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Where the Chargers offensive line, I give them credit. They’ve

788
00:36:11,200 –> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: been tough. They’ve battled despite missing a lot of their

789
00:36:13,520 –> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: guys this year. But they ran into a situation where

790
00:36:16,920 –> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: if you don’t have your stars up front, you’re just

791
00:36:19,400 –> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: going to have a hard time when you’re playing against

792
00:36:21,200 –> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior and daneil Hunter and all those dudes

793
00:36:24,120 –> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: they have on that defense. That Texans defense is probably

794
00:36:27,640 –> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: the best in football, just like top to bottom in

795
00:36:30,120 –> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: terms of how they have playmakers at all three levels.

796
00:36:32,320 –> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: They can rush the passer, and they’re fast and athletic

797
00:36:35,200 –> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: at linebacker and at defensive back. Really tough to move

798
00:36:38,719 –> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: the ball in those guys, and I came to fruition

799
00:36:41,320 –> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: against the Chargers who just couldn’t protect. I mean, it

800
00:36:43,719 –> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: felt like Herbert in every big moment, ended up on

801
00:36:46,360 –> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: his back. Now, another takeaway I have from it, and

802
00:36:49,760 –> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: the reason I’m hesitant to see the Texans go far

803
00:36:53,200 –> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: into the playoffs is because their offense allowed the Chargers

804
00:36:56,480 –> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: to hang around. So as good as the Texans were

805
00:36:59,480 –> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: defensively and just dominating that game, and you know, the

806
00:37:02,480 –> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Texans offense starts by scoring two quick touchdowns. From then

807
00:37:05,280 –> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: on out, it felt like the Texans were gonna run

808
00:37:07,080 –> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 2: away with it, and it was quite the opposite where

809
00:37:08,920 –> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: they allowed the Chargers to hang around. So I come

810
00:37:12,280 –> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: away from that game thinking the Texans defense is tremendous,

811
00:37:16,840 –> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: but I think their offense could hold them back in

812
00:37:18,480 –> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: the postseason.

813
00:37:19,920 –> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: It’s interesting.

814
00:37:20,520 –> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: I like it a little bit of what we’re seeing

815
00:37:22,239 –> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: from the Texans what we’re currently seeing in the NFC

816
00:37:24,880 –> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: from the Philadelphia Eagles right where the defense is dominant

817
00:37:28,040 –> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: and the offense is just not Really it doesn’t look

818
00:37:30,640 –> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 4: like Super Bowl caliber winning teams. But we are getting

819
00:37:33,320 –> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: to that time of year where the games won’t be

820
00:37:35,320 –> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 4: as high scoring, particularly if it’s in a cold weather play.

821
00:37:37,880 –> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: So we’ll get into more that. We’re gonna get predictions

822
00:37:39,960 –> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: from Matt on who he thinks they’re going to be

823
00:37:41,440 –> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 4: playing in the conference championship games. But let’s finish out

824
00:37:44,480 –> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: the AFC West. The Raiders will lose thirty four to

825
00:37:47,040 –> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: ten at home to the Giants if they don’t mess

826
00:37:50,280 –> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: this thing up. They’re gonna have the number one pick

827
00:37:52,960 –> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: for the Raiders. If you’re a Raiders fan, I don’t

828
00:37:55,400 –> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: know who that number one pick is going to be.

829
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Speaker 4: I know a lot of the players were upset. The

830
00:37:59,400 –> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: Raider players were upset that people thought they were playing

831
00:38:01,760 –> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: to get the number one pick. I don’t what to

832
00:38:04,840 –> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: make of the Raiders right now. I mean, you bring

833
00:38:06,560 –> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll back after only winning two games, and they’ve

834
00:38:08,880 –> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: had so many games where they just weren’t competitive at all.

835
00:38:11,280 –> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: And look, he’s a defensive coach, right, so he might

836
00:38:14,360 –> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: be able to say, hey, let me go get the

837
00:38:16,040 –> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: right offensive coordinator this time because Chip Kelly didn’t work.

838
00:38:19,160 –> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: I don’t know what the weapons they have. I don’t

839
00:38:21,280 –> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: know with Gino if this is a winning formula. I

840
00:38:24,520 –> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 4: think the Raiders offseason is going to be the most

841
00:38:26,480 –> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: fascinating one besides the chiefs within the division. What does

842
00:38:30,520 –> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: your heart tell you? Where do the Raiders go from here?

843
00:38:33,200 –> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have a quick thought on the whole. Hey,

844
00:38:35,840 –> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders are trying to lose thing. So from a

845
00:38:39,000 –> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: player’s perspective, no player is ever trying to lose. Every

846
00:38:43,840 –> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: member of that Raiders roster outside of like guys like

847
00:38:46,640 –> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: Max Crosby and Brock Bauers, they don’t know what their

848
00:38:49,320 –> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: future is in the NFL. Like I think they’re less

849
00:38:52,000 –> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: concerned about, hey, what’s the best draft strategy for the

850
00:38:55,520 –> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Raiders and more about how do I put the best

851
00:38:58,000 –> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: performance on tape to make sure I continue having a

852
00:39:00,480 –> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: career in the NFL. So I think anyone that thinks

853
00:39:03,560 –> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: that the Raiders went out there the players themselves were

854
00:39:06,640 –> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: trying to lose or not trying as hard because they’re

855
00:39:08,960 –> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: trying to improve their draft position is just totally bogus.

856
00:39:12,440 –> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: So I don’t think any players are ever going to

857
00:39:15,200 –> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: try to tank in the NFL because at the end

858
00:39:17,440 –> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: of the day, you’re playing also for the name on

859
00:39:19,600 –> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: the back of your jersey and your livelihood. So I’ll

860
00:39:22,719 –> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: just leave that at that. For the Raiders, they got

861
00:39:24,920 –> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: to figure out their quarterback situation and in the draft,

862
00:39:28,880 –> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: is the kid from Oregon or Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, Like,

863
00:39:32,480 –> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: is that guy their future? They’ll have lots of time

864
00:39:37,160 –> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: to discuss that here in the coming months, but until

865
00:39:40,040 –> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: they find a quarterback, it doesn’t really matter the other

866
00:39:43,239 –> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: talent they have on their team and they do have

867
00:39:44,680 –> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: talent with guys like Bowers and Ashton Gent, but I mean,

868
00:39:47,800 –> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: as we’ve seen, having the guy at quarterback changes everything.

869
00:39:51,520 –> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: And for these teams that have made runs this year

870
00:39:53,360 –> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: kind of out of nowhere, like New England, well it’s

871
00:39:55,880 –> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: because Drake may is, you know, an MVP candidate. You

872
00:39:59,480 –> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: look at Chick, it’s because Caleb Williams kind of figured

873
00:40:02,320 –> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: it out and this is a guy who’s capable of

874
00:40:04,120 –> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: leading his team into the postseason. Yeah, you gotta find

875
00:40:06,640 –> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: that guy. And the Raiders frankly don’t currently have that

876
00:40:09,680 –> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: guy on their roster. Can they find in this offseason?

877
00:40:12,239 –> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: That’ll answer any questions we have about the Raiders because

878
00:40:14,440 –> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: if they find that guy, doesn’t matter what other deficiencies

879
00:40:17,320 –> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: they might have, because they’ll still have a chance to

880
00:40:18,880 –> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 2: win some games.

881
00:40:19,880 –> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 4: Well, when you got that quarterback, it gives you belief

882
00:40:21,920 –> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 4: in the locker room, right, not just on the offensive

883
00:40:23,880 –> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: side of the ball, but in the entire locker room.

884
00:40:25,600 –> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: Right.

885
00:40:25,719 –> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 4: You got to have that guy that you’re like, that’s

886
00:40:27,480 –> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: going to be our leader. Because look, it is the

887
00:40:29,520 –> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: ultimate team sport in any sport I think in the world,

888
00:40:32,719 –> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: but the quarterback position is the most important position in

889
00:40:35,280 –> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: any team sport played anywhere in the world. So I

890
00:40:37,760 –> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: couldn’t agree with you more that you got to get

891
00:40:39,320 –> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: the quarterback right. And I don’t necessarily disagree that Pete

892
00:40:42,600 –> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: brought in Gino because Gino played well in Seattle at

893
00:40:45,200 –> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: times they were competitive last year, so I guess I

894
00:40:49,280 –> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: thought it was reasonable to think that Gino could come

895
00:40:51,440 –> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: in and help you win games. It did not go well,

896
00:40:53,520 –> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: so it will be a fascinating offseason. Let’s get to

897
00:40:56,239 –> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: what we already alluded to for a moment. The best

898
00:40:58,000 –> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: game of this past week featured came Williams and the

899
00:41:01,120 –> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: Bears taking on the forty nine Ers the Sunday night game. Wow.

900
00:41:04,160 –> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: I mean it was offensive fireworks if you love offense,

901
00:41:07,000 –> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: I believe at the half it was twenty eight to

902
00:41:09,040 –> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: twenty one, so plenty of offense. I want to make

903
00:41:12,280 –> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: a case that over the last three weeks you could

904
00:41:13,960 –> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 4: see that brock Party has been the best quarterback in

905
00:41:15,800 –> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: the NFL. His numbers in December his quarterback ready is

906
00:41:19,360 –> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty one point five eleven touchdowns, two interceptions.

907
00:41:24,160 –> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers offensively look as good as anybody

908
00:41:27,640 –> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: watching them go back and forth. It came down to

909
00:41:29,840 –> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: the final play with Caleb Williams can’t find a receiver

910
00:41:32,440 –> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: in the ends of what a fun football game? Like

911
00:41:34,640 –> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: I know at this time here it’s a lot of defense.

912
00:41:36,560 –> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: It was fun to have a shootout. Is Brock Party

913
00:41:40,040 –> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: capable of leading the forty nine ers? Who was super Bowl?

914
00:41:42,520 –> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: Is Caleb Willis Williams capable of leading the Bears to

915
00:41:46,280 –> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? I thought there’s a fascinating matchup because

916
00:41:48,440 –> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: we may see a lot of matchups that look a

917
00:41:50,480 –> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: lot like that in the NFC playoffs coming out.

918
00:41:53,000 –> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think first on Party, the answer is yes,

919
00:41:55,920 –> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: because we’ve seen it before. I mean, Rock Party led

920
00:41:58,440 –> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: his team to over time of a Super Bowl and

921
00:42:02,040 –> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: he was just Patrick Mahomes away from winning the Super Bowl,

922
00:42:05,280 –> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: and I do not fault him for that. So Yeah,

923
00:42:08,239 –> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: I think Brock Perty could be that guy to lead

924
00:42:09,800 –> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: the Niners to a super Bowl. We’ve talked about it

925
00:42:12,120 –> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: weekend and week out. I have so much respect for

926
00:42:14,200 –> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: how they’ve managed this thing despite missing a lot of

927
00:42:16,760 –> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: impact players. They didn’t have George Kittle in that game

928
00:42:19,719 –> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: against the Bears, didn’t matter, still scored a bunch of points.

929
00:42:22,160 –> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Haven’t had Nick Bosa or Fred Warner for most of

930
00:42:25,000 –> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: the season. Hasn’t mattered, haven’t had Ayuk all season, didn’t

931
00:42:29,080 –> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: have party for eight games this year, and doesn’t matter.

932
00:42:31,520 –> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: They just find a way. And I have a lot

933
00:42:33,360 –> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: of respect for that, despite playing in the best division

934
00:42:35,560 –> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: in football right now and a chance to win that

935
00:42:37,800 –> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: division if they can beat the Seahawks, I believe.

936
00:42:40,680 –> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: So.

937
00:42:41,680 –> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they’ve been awesome and.

938
00:42:42,760 –> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: The number one seed we’re going to talk about, but

939
00:42:45,200 –> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: that’s about a sexy a matchup in Week eighteen as you.

940
00:42:47,960 –> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: Can hold for really really impressive. And with the Bears,

941
00:42:51,480 –> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: I mean, listen what they’ve been able to do this season, first,

942
00:42:55,840 –> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: despite starting zero to two, having a quarterback in Kayleb

943
00:42:58,840 –> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 2: Williams with a lot of pressure to fulfill the promise

944
00:43:01,400 –> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: of what he was supposed to be in the NFL,

945
00:43:04,360 –> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: and with a rookie head coach, for them to do

946
00:43:06,760 –> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: what they’ve done this year is really really special, I think,

947
00:43:11,280 –> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: And I guess I just hadn’t watched a lot of

948
00:43:14,040 –> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: full Caleb Williams games, whether because maybe we were playing

949
00:43:17,280 –> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: at the same time or whatever it may be, but

950
00:43:19,320 –> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: I came away really impressed with him, how he’s able

951
00:43:22,000 –> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: to make throws on the run. Some of his deep

952
00:43:24,320 –> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: throws are just effortless special players. So we’ll see Chicago

953
00:43:29,880 –> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: the two seed in the NFC and gonna be hosting

954
00:43:32,400 –> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: up some playoff games. We’ll see if they can do it.

955
00:43:34,560 –> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: But brock Party, for sure, I think can get to

956
00:43:36,840 –> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, and we’ll see if Caleb Williams can.

957
00:43:40,239 –> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: Incredible. I just wouldn’t have predicted that the Bearers. This

958
00:43:43,120 –> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 4: is a red that they were going to be a

959
00:43:44,360 –> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender, all right, coming up AFC West in

960
00:43:46,680 –> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 4: the final week of the season. We have the Chiefs

961
00:43:48,880 –> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: at the Raiders and we have the Chargers at the Broncos.

962
00:43:51,680 –> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 4: Neither of these games are quite as compelling as we

963
00:43:53,760 –> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: thought they might be. You know, earlier in the season,

964
00:43:55,680 –> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: we thought the Chiefs might be playing for seeding. With

965
00:43:58,680 –> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: the Chargers losing the Chargers Broncos game, it’s still really

966
00:44:02,200 –> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: important for the Broncos. They want to get the number

967
00:44:03,880 –> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: one seed. The Chargers no longer can win the division.

968
00:44:07,440 –> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: Let’s focus on the Chargers in the Broncos. So I

969
00:44:10,320 –> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: think when we texted earlier this week, or I guess

970
00:44:13,280 –> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 4: it was the end of last week, it seems the

971
00:44:15,960 –> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: Chargers are just running out of bodies. They look like

972
00:44:18,760 –> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: a tired football team. I had sort of gotten on

973
00:44:21,600 –> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: the bandwagon. I thought, Wow, Harball’s got these guys playing

974
00:44:24,239 –> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: at such a high level the way they looked in

975
00:44:26,600 –> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: Dallas for that win a couple of weeks ago. But boy,

976
00:44:29,239 –> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: they look like an injured bunch. I’m not sure they’ve

977
00:44:31,840 –> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: got enough band aids to get them through far in

978
00:44:34,520 –> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: the playoffs. But how do you expect Harbaugh to approach

979
00:44:37,360 –> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: this game and what do you expect the mindset for

980
00:44:39,480 –> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: the Chargers to be going to play Denver in the

981
00:44:41,440 –> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: final week.

982
00:44:42,480 –> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like they’re going to rest Herbert, which

983
00:44:44,640 –> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: I think is the right move all things considered. Other

984
00:44:47,960 –> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: than that, I expect Harbaugh to coach a classic Harbaugh

985
00:44:51,640 –> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: game that’s gonna kind of like our game last week

986
00:44:54,120 –> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: against Denver. Denver is going to have to earn that one.

987
00:44:56,320 –> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: I don’t think Denver can show up against the Harbaugh

988
00:44:58,760 –> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: team and just going to roll over right. I do

989
00:45:02,200 –> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: think Denver wins that game, though, just because they have

990
00:45:05,080 –> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: too much to play for, and they’re gonna have the

991
00:45:06,760 –> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: talent advantage with Herbert not playing, and I’m assuming some

992
00:45:09,960 –> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: other big time players for the Chargers not playing looking forward, though,

993
00:45:14,040 –> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: I’m with you that. I just wonder if the Chargers

994
00:45:16,040 –> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: have enough left to make a playoff run. I’m looking

995
00:45:19,000 –> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: at the standings right now. I think the Chargers would

996
00:45:21,040 –> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: go to Jacksonville to open up the postseason.

997
00:45:23,840 –> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: Which we know what happened when they went there in

998
00:45:25,440 –> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: the regular season. Yes, we do, any worse than thirty

999
00:45:27,760 –> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 4: five to six.

1000
00:45:28,640 –> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: Well, and there’s history there. I mean, the Jacks came

1001
00:45:30,960 –> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: back from what twenty eight down in the postseason a

1002
00:45:33,360 –> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: couple of.

1003
00:45:33,640 –> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: Years like twenty seven or twenty four or something to nothing.

1004
00:45:36,600 –> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, there’s some history there. And Jacksonville’s playing

1005
00:45:41,480 –> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: as well as anybody right now. Where the Chargers, the

1006
00:45:44,680 –> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: NFL can come at you fast. Where the Chargers, despite

1007
00:45:47,400 –> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: their issues, we’re playing good football. I mean, you beat

1008
00:45:49,880 –> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: the Cowboys playing really good football, you beat the Eagles,

1009
00:45:53,280 –> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: but just how they played against Houston, and now they’re

1010
00:45:57,000 –> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: not going to have an opportunity with all of their

1011
00:45:59,040 –> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: guys to have a final time up game here against Denver.

1012
00:46:01,760 –> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: I do wonder how the look in the postseason, but

1013
00:46:03,760 –> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: that’s why they play the games.

1014
00:46:05,640 –> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: All right, Let’s talk about two games coming up. I

1015
00:46:07,960 –> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: couldn’t I mean, They’re both so important, but for different reasons.

1016
00:46:11,400 –> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: Let’s start, We’ve got the Seahawks and the forty nine

1017
00:46:13,560 –> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: Ers is for everything, it’s to win the NFC West,

1018
00:46:15,760 –> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: and it’s to be the number one seed, which is

1019
00:46:17,520 –> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: so coveted because it’s the only buy. I’m surprised that

1020
00:46:21,360 –> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: this game is this significant. I thought Seattle, I thought

1021
00:46:24,520 –> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: they’d be sort of where they were. I didn’t think

1022
00:46:26,760 –> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: Sam Donald was a huge upgrade over Gino. Now when

1023
00:46:29,920 –> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 4: you look at the lens of this season, it looks

1024
00:46:31,760 –> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: like a monster upgrade. So Seattle is there. They’ve got

1025
00:46:34,960 –> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: a great defense. I think their coaching staff has done

1026
00:46:38,000 –> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: an amazing job with this group. Then you get the

1027
00:46:40,239 –> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: forty nine ers you mentioned, who have overcome so much.

1028
00:46:42,600 –> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: The game is in San Francisco. Seattle’s been an excellent

1029
00:46:45,760 –> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: road team. You know, for the NFL to have your

1030
00:46:49,120 –> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: Saturday night game beside who the number one seed is

1031
00:46:51,239 –> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: gonna be is pretty good stuff. Are you leaning one

1032
00:46:54,080 –> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 4: way or the other Seahawks forty nine Ers on Saturday Night?

1033
00:46:56,880 –> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, correct me if I’m wrong. But wasn’t Donald in

1034
00:46:59,200 –> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: this exact suit situation last year with Minnesota where.

1035
00:47:02,120 –> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: They had to go?

1036
00:47:02,800 –> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: We know how it went from here last year.

1037
00:47:04,880 –> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they had an opportunity if they beat Detroit

1038
00:47:07,560 –> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: to have the one seed to win the division. They

1039
00:47:09,920 –> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: obviously didn’t and they lose in the first round of

1040
00:47:12,040 –> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: the postseason as a fourteen win team. Crazy he finds

1041
00:47:15,600 –> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: himself in that spot again. Maybe I’m just, you know,

1042
00:47:20,000 –> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: a prisoner of the moment. But I can’t bet against

1043
00:47:22,760 –> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers right now, just based on how

1044
00:47:25,120 –> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: they played against Chicago, a really good Bears team, based

1045
00:47:27,640 –> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: on how Perty is playing, I just have a hard

1046
00:47:30,239 –> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: time seeing the Seahawks going in there and beating them

1047
00:47:33,560 –> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: if the Niners play like they’ve played over the last

1048
00:47:35,840 –> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: several weeks. So I don’t know, give me the Niners.

1049
00:47:39,960 –> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: I think.

1050
00:47:40,239 –> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: I’m with you. I think the Niners at home.

1051
00:47:42,320 –> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: I don’t know.

1052
00:47:42,640 –> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: There’s something going on right there that that offense is

1053
00:47:45,160 –> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: at such an elite level. But we’ll be interesting. That

1054
00:47:47,400 –> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: Seattle defense is so good. So the Seattle defense against

1055
00:47:50,560 –> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers offense, I think it’s going to

1056
00:47:52,280 –> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: tell us a lot. Now, this is related to what

1057
00:47:54,640 –> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: happened with Sam darl but it’s a bigger picture thought.

1058
00:47:58,320 –> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: Remember what happened to the NFC North last year in

1059
00:48:00,520 –> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Right, So they had so many games of

1060
00:48:03,239 –> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 4: just enormous significance late in the year, and then they

1061
00:48:07,440 –> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: both all three of them all lost in the first

1062
00:48:09,520 –> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: round of the playoffs. I just think it’d be interesting

1063
00:48:11,560 –> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: to see whether there’s a similar effect here because the

1064
00:48:13,680 –> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald think could happen again, right, Donald could lose

1065
00:48:16,080 –> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: to the forty nine ers, then they’re not the number

1066
00:48:18,120 –> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: one seed, and then they’re gonna be playing in the playoffs.

1067
00:48:20,600 –> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: And are they you know, are they gonna win for sure?

1068
00:48:23,440 –> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: In the first round, They’re gonna be on the road.

1069
00:48:25,360 –> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: So I don’t know. I think for Sam darnld and

1070
00:48:27,600 –> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: he’s probably unfortunately those the thoughts happen. I mean, he’s

1071
00:48:30,360 –> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 4: human right since Seattle and sever since, but I thing

1072
00:48:32,800 –> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: it’s gonna be amazing. The other one, well, the records

1073
00:48:34,880 –> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: aren’t as great. You’re either in the postseason or not.

1074
00:48:37,000 –> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 4: That one that we already know. Seattle and San Francisco

1075
00:48:38,800 –> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: are both in. We’ve got the Ravens taking on the Steelers.

1076
00:48:43,360 –> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: And one of the interesting sidebars to me is do

1077
00:48:47,160 –> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: you want Lamar Jackson to play if you’re a Ravens fan?

1078
00:48:49,520 –> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: Because boy Huntley ran the offense beautifully against Green Bay.

1079
00:48:53,040 –> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 4: He brings the element of the dual threat because we

1080
00:48:55,840 –> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: all know Lamar has not been running like he normally does.

1081
00:48:58,239 –> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: He’s clearly not healthy. I never thought i’d say it,

1082
00:49:00,480 –> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: but you actually, if Lamar’s good to go, if you’re

1083
00:49:02,800 –> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: a Ravens fan, do you want Lamar to play or

1084
00:49:05,040 –> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 4: do you want Huntley to play? And then you’ve got

1085
00:49:07,360 –> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: the Steelers. This Aaron Rodgers thing. I think it’s been compelling.

1086
00:49:10,719 –> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be a terrible fit

1087
00:49:12,560 –> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh got off to rates start, then it looked miserable,

1088
00:49:16,719 –> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: and I don’t know, the NFL is a little more

1089
00:49:18,440 –> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: interesting with Aaron Rodgers in it. Whether you ever hate him,

1090
00:49:20,920 –> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: he’s he’s an interesting figure. I think that he he

1091
00:49:24,120 –> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: he Elicits a lot of emotion either way. So you

1092
00:49:26,160 –> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: got these two fearsome rivals going to toe to toe

1093
00:49:29,000 –> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: to win the AFC North. What are some of your

1094
00:49:31,960 –> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: thoughts raven Steelers.

1095
00:49:33,800 –> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: It’s great theater, isn’t it. I mean, the drama is crazy.

1096
00:49:37,080 –> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: It feels like the Ravens have been breathing down the Steelers’

1097
00:49:39,600 –> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: neck like all season. Where Baltimore gets off to this

1098
00:49:43,160 –> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: terrible start at one in five and the Steelers were

1099
00:49:47,800 –> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 2: what four and two? But I don’t think anyone thought

1100
00:49:51,040 –> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: that it was over. Like all season, it’s been like

1101
00:49:53,719 –> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens are coming, They’re coming, And we thought for

1102
00:49:56,120 –> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: a minute there that Baltimore was done. But based on

1103
00:49:58,880 –> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: how they played against the Packers the other night, now

1104
00:50:01,000 –> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: they still got a shot. Speaking of Huntley, was that

1105
00:50:04,280 –> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: like the most entertaining battle of backup quarterbacks ever?

1106
00:50:07,400 –> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: Good?

1107
00:50:07,680 –> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: Right, Huntley and Willis, Like both of them looked awesome,

1108
00:50:10,920 –> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: and especially Willis. Like watching Willis, I’m like, is Malik

1109
00:50:13,920 –> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: Willis really good?

1110
00:50:15,200 –> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Like?

1111
00:50:15,480 –> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: And he like, is someone gonna try and come and

1112
00:50:17,640 –> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 4: get him? And they should next year he should be

1113
00:50:19,840 –> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: competing for a starting guy. He’s never gonna happ be

1114
00:50:21,840 –> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: the starter with Jordan Love, but he is that three

1115
00:50:24,440 –> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 4: quarter arm angle and that ball just comes firing out

1116
00:50:26,880 –> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: of there. Right, It’s just he was impressive. He looks

1117
00:50:30,520 –> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 4: to me like he should be a starting quarterback. But

1118
00:50:32,160 –> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: I agree with you, I thought both quarterbacks played at

1119
00:50:34,000 –> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: a really high level.

1120
00:50:34,880 –> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were both awesome, and yeah, Huntley deserves a

1121
00:50:37,480 –> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: lot of credit for how he’s kept us sing afloat

1122
00:50:39,480 –> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: for them because he beat the Bears earlier this season

1123
00:50:42,360 –> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: when Lamar couldn’t play, and to go into a must

1124
00:50:45,640 –> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: win game at Lambeau when the Packers still want to win,

1125
00:50:48,840 –> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: and to win that game really impressive. Now it helps

1126
00:50:51,640 –> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: the Dereck Henry rushes for like two hundred yards And

1127
00:50:54,680 –> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: that’s why, first of all, I would play Lamar Jackson

1128
00:50:57,840 –> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: if he was healthy, just because he’s Lamar Jackson. But

1129
00:51:00,520 –> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: I think whether it’s Jackson or Huntley, I think the

1130
00:51:03,680 –> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: Ravens win this game just because of the way that

1131
00:51:06,920 –> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry can affect your offense when he’s playing well,

1132
00:51:11,160 –> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: he’s obviously doing so right now. And Pittsburgh to me,

1133
00:51:14,520 –> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: I just I don’t know, hasn’t really impressed me much

1134
00:51:17,840 –> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: all season. And I think they’re going to feel the

1135
00:51:20,480 –> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: pressure of they had this division all year and now

1136
00:51:24,080 –> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: that God will win to keep it, and in order

1137
00:51:26,640 –> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: to keep it, you have to slow down Derrick Henry.

1138
00:51:28,440 –> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: That’s tough. So yeah, I think I think the Ravens

1139
00:51:31,520 –> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: win this one.

1140
00:51:32,000 –> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: I do all right now, I’m gonna really put you

1141
00:51:34,080 –> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: on the hot seat, and I’m gonna I’m gonna I

1142
00:51:35,600 –> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: will answer this question nowtter you to, but I want

1143
00:51:37,719 –> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 4: your answer first, Okay, so let’s just say the Steelers

1144
00:51:40,400 –> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: do in fact lose on Week one of the twenty

1145
00:51:43,160 –> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: twenty six sies. And is Mike Tomlin the head coach

1146
00:51:45,719 –> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1147
00:51:47,640 –> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so That’s why I’m.

1148
00:51:50,080 –> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: They traditionally have not you know. I mean, if you’re

1149
00:51:52,280 –> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: the head coach to the Steelers, I mean you have

1150
00:51:53,680 –> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: the job usually like twenty years right, the life right right,

1151
00:51:57,239 –> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: I mean Bill Coweruck Noll, Chuck Noll. So, I mean,

1152
00:52:01,920 –> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: they just don’t change much. It will be interesting. I

1153
00:52:04,160 –> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: think there’ll be a lot of fans calling for him

1154
00:52:05,880 –> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: to be let go because I think they’re they’re tired

1155
00:52:07,920 –> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: of being sort of mediocre, I think the fan base.

1156
00:52:10,480 –> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: But I would think it’s easy to fire somebody, but

1157
00:52:12,640 –> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: then who you’re going to bring to his head coach?

1158
00:52:14,000 –> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: So I actually do believe that Tomlin two will be

1159
00:52:16,280 –> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: the head coach. But I got a feeling there’ll be

1160
00:52:17,880 –> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: a lot of baggage in the off season for the

1161
00:52:21,560 –> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: Steelers in their fan base.

1162
00:52:22,840 –> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: All Right, what one thought? Are one thought on that?

1163
00:52:25,520 –> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: A lot is made of the Steelers having like twenty

1164
00:52:28,719 –> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: consecutive seasons without ever having a losing record. And that’s

1165
00:52:32,040 –> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: really impressive. But what it also means is they have

1166
00:52:34,239 –> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: never had a chance to truly reset, right, and they’ve

1167
00:52:37,800 –> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: been kind of on this run ever since Big Ben retired,

1168
00:52:40,760 –> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: where they’re finding these veteran quarterbacks and trying to stitch

1169
00:52:44,200 –> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: it together for a couple of years until they have

1170
00:52:47,040 –> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get a young quarterback who they’re going

1171
00:52:50,440 –> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: to invest in and power and make their guy. They’re

1172
00:52:54,880 –> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: going to keep finding themselves in this situation where they’re

1173
00:52:57,160 –> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: kind of on the fringe, like, yeah, there may be

1174
00:52:59,520 –> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: a playoff team, but could they really make a Super

1175
00:53:01,200 –> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: Bowl run? I don’t know. Until they have that guy

1176
00:53:04,000 –> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: who’s like twenty three years old, I think they’ll find

1177
00:53:06,680 –> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: themselves in the spot. I don’t think it’s Tomlin’s fault.

1178
00:53:09,800 –> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: I think it’s more of a a situation that’s created

1179
00:53:14,360 –> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: by their continual sustained success where they just don’t have

1180
00:53:17,200 –> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: a chance to fully reload like some of these teams do.

1181
00:53:20,520 –> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason that uh Chicago is in the

1182
00:53:23,320 –> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 2: spot is because they drafted kill bullyams number one overall.

1183
00:53:28,200 –> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: For a while, right, so the Bears. So it’s easier

1184
00:53:30,600 –> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: to build when you’ve been bad year after a year, right,

1185
00:53:32,719 –> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: you should stop file those top picks, you know. But

1186
00:53:35,640 –> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: just to give the Chiefs as an example, I mean,

1187
00:53:37,880 –> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: they had a good quarterback in Alex Smith, but I

1188
00:53:39,800 –> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: think they thought that whatever the ceiling was with him.

1189
00:53:43,200 –> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you give up multiple first round picks to

1190
00:53:45,200 –> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 4: move up in the draft. That’s not something the Steelers

1191
00:53:47,320 –> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: have been willing to do, at least to date. And

1192
00:53:49,200 –> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: that’s just sort of go all in on a young

1193
00:53:51,440 –> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: quarterback coming out in the draft that they’re like, that’s

1194
00:53:53,400 –> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: the guy we’re gonna We’re going to mortgage the future

1195
00:53:55,960 –> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: to go get that guy. Sometimes you have to make

1196
00:53:58,120 –> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: it take a huge risk, right. I mean Patrick Mahomes

1197
00:54:00,680 –> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: when he came out, like it’s easy to say now

1198
00:54:02,239 –> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: he looks great, but he was like a mad gunslinger

1199
00:54:05,320 –> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: in college, right, I mean he made throws that made

1200
00:54:07,320 –> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: you wildly uncomforable. Now with great coaching, right, and he

1201
00:54:11,520 –> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: has developed with the work. I think it’s the best

1202
00:54:13,320 –> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 4: quarterback in the world. He’s the goat right now in

1203
00:54:14,840 –> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: the NFL. But it just will The Steelers are a

1204
00:54:18,000 –> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: team like that, is there a guy out there, It

1205
00:54:19,920 –> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: may not be this year. You got to take big

1206
00:54:22,120 –> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 4: risks sometimes in order to get, you know, the very

1207
00:54:24,640 –> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: best guy for your franchise. And I think that the

1208
00:54:26,680 –> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: Steelers have been willing to use band aids at quarterback,

1209
00:54:29,400 –> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: and I think we know that’s not a long term

1210
00:54:31,400 –> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: formula for success. And you know, even if Aaron Rodgers

1211
00:54:34,440 –> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 4: can play one more year, it’s going to be like

1212
00:54:36,040 –> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: a slightly diminished version of this weird times. He was

1213
00:54:38,360 –> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: decent this year. Yeah, I just think for any team

1214
00:54:40,520 –> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: out there, if you’re looking to be great, there’s only

1215
00:54:42,560 –> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 4: one way to do it, and you got to find

1216
00:54:43,920 –> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: that franchise quarterback.

1217
00:54:45,320 –> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn’t agree more. And the Chiefs example was a

1218
00:54:47,680 –> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: great one because the Chiefs were competitive with Alex Smith

1219
00:54:50,440 –> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: and making it to the division round of the playoffs.

1220
00:54:52,719 –> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, to put yourself over the top, you got

1221
00:54:54,880 –> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: to go find that guy. And for Pittsburgh, it just

1222
00:54:57,520 –> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: kind of feels like they have been putting off finding

1223
00:55:00,800 –> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: that guy and think they can keep just kind of

1224
00:55:03,400 –> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: doing this with a veteran here and a veteran there.

1225
00:55:06,680 –> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: And sure, yeah, you can win nine games, you can

1226
00:55:08,600 –> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: win the division, you can make it to the playoffs,

1227
00:55:10,560 –> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: but can you really make noise consistently every year without

1228
00:55:14,360 –> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: that guy? And I think the answer is no.

1229
00:55:16,800 –> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: All right, let’s go to something we’ve never done because

1230
00:55:18,920 –> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 4: we’ve st our first year doing this, we’re on the

1231
00:55:20,800 –> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 4: precipice of the playoffs. Let’s start in the NFC. Now,

1232
00:55:25,239 –> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 4: let’s just assume that the games are going to be

1233
00:55:27,840 –> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: what they are based on the current records. Right, because

1234
00:55:30,160 –> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 4: we got one week left, we can talk about this

1235
00:55:31,960 –> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 4: again next week. Who do you expect to be in

1236
00:55:34,680 –> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship game? And you can I’d like to

1237
00:55:37,400 –> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: hear why with it? Why these two teams?

1238
00:55:40,360 –> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay? So give me Chicago, okay? And I think again,

1239
00:55:46,000 –> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: I’m a prisoner of the moment, and I was just

1240
00:55:47,600 –> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: so impressed by their all around performance against the Niners

1241
00:55:50,320 –> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: that I think they have a chance to make it there.

1242
00:55:54,320 –> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: And I am.

1243
00:55:55,200 –> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: I am going back and forth between the Niners and

1244
00:55:57,640 –> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: the Rams. Before we started talking about the Niners, I

1245
00:56:00,960 –> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: was gonna say the Rams, and I still think the

1246
00:56:02,960 –> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Rams could do it. The Rams remind me a lot

1247
00:56:05,800 –> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty three Chiefs, where I think they’re

1248
00:56:10,320 –> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: immensely talented, but they’re losing some games that I don’t

1249
00:56:14,160 –> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: think they should be losing, like they came against Atlanta

1250
00:56:17,160 –> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: kind of bizarre like I think the Falcons are a

1251
00:56:19,440 –> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: much improved team, but the Rams are better than Atlanta

1252
00:56:23,360 –> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: and allow themselves to fall behind twenty one nothing in

1253
00:56:27,160 –> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: the blink of an eye. I think the Rams, with

1254
00:56:29,600 –> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams and with a quarterback like Matthew Stafford who’s

1255
00:56:33,160 –> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: been there and done that, could go on a run.

1256
00:56:35,120 –> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: It’s gonna be tough in their situation though, being a

1257
00:56:37,440 –> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: wildcard team. So I think I’ve changed my mind. Mid thought,

1258
00:56:42,040 –> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: give me, give me the Niners and the Bears in

1259
00:56:45,880 –> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game.

1260
00:56:47,480 –> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: So we’re going for a rehash of this past Sunday nights.

1261
00:56:50,440 –> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just give me that again.

1262
00:56:51,440 –> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: Yes, I think people would like it, all right. I

1263
00:56:54,840 –> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 4: want to make this qualifying remark before I start with

1264
00:56:57,400 –> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: the exception of the South winner and for the sake,

1265
00:56:59,239 –> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: and we’ll call it the care lot of Panthers. Right now,

1266
00:57:01,239 –> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: the Panthers and the Packers are the two teams I

1267
00:57:03,120 –> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 4: think cannot be in the NFC Championship Game. The other five,

1268
00:57:06,920 –> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: I think you can make a case for any of them.

1269
00:57:08,560 –> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: I really do.

1270
00:57:09,160 –> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: I think that the Eagles, in bad weather at home,

1271
00:57:11,640 –> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: they’re likely to win their wildcard game. And you know

1272
00:57:14,160 –> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: they still have a sliver of a chance of getting

1273
00:57:16,080 –> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: the two seed. I don’t expect the Bears to lose

1274
00:57:18,040 –> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: at home to Detroit, but it’s the NFL, right, I mean,

1275
00:57:20,720 –> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: who knows Detroit could come out loosey goosey and who

1276
00:57:23,600 –> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: knows to upset the Bears, and then the Bears fall

1277
00:57:25,760 –> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: to three. I don’t think it dramatically affects the Bears

1278
00:57:28,360 –> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: or the Eagles. I just think you want to play

1279
00:57:30,040 –> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: the Packers in the first round and not the Ram

1280
00:57:32,120 –> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: So that to me, is really the difference there. But

1281
00:57:34,960 –> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: if if I had to pick the NFC championship game

1282
00:57:37,160 –> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: right now, I’d actually take the forty nine Ers in

1283
00:57:39,120 –> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: the Eagles. I think that’s going to be the matchup.

1284
00:57:41,400 –> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: They have a long history together. Those franchises do not

1285
00:57:44,160 –> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: like each other at all. But I will qualify this.

1286
00:57:47,160 –> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 4: If the Rams win their first game, I think they’re

1287
00:57:49,440 –> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: going to the Super Bowl. I just think that first

1288
00:57:51,200 –> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: game is going to be the toughest one. Whether it’s

1289
00:57:53,000 –> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 4: in Chicago or in Philadelphia in January, in bad weather,

1290
00:57:58,080 –> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, it’s just hard to play in those places.

1291
00:58:00,080 –> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: The Rams came close to beating the Eagles last year.

1292
00:58:02,840 –> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 4: I just think that that first game for the Rams

1293
00:58:04,960 –> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: to be critical good. They get that first one, then

1294
00:58:06,600 –> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: they’re most likely going to be playing a team from

1295
00:58:09,200 –> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: their own division in the next round. So I just

1296
00:58:12,040 –> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: think that there’s a chance that the Rams win one,

1297
00:58:14,320 –> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: they end up going to the super Bowl. Right, Let’s

1298
00:58:15,840 –> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: shift gears.

1299
00:58:16,520 –> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: To the AFC.

1300
00:58:18,600 –> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 4: Now. I just want to remind you that just recently

1301
00:58:22,400 –> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: as last week, you thought that Josh Allen and the

1302
00:58:25,000 –> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: Bills were the team that was going to go not

1303
00:58:27,760 –> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: just the AFC Championship Game, but to the super Bowl.

1304
00:58:30,360 –> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: After watching them play last week against the Eagles, has

1305
00:58:32,720 –> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: that changed your mind at all about the Bills postseason?

1306
00:58:36,680 –> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder how quickly Josh Allen can heal up? Yeah,

1307
00:58:40,240 –> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: because I think banged up. Now, Yeah, he clearly was

1308
00:58:42,640 –> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: affected by that injury, and the Eagles played great, But

1309
00:58:48,800 –> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was not playing like Josh Allen I think,

1310
00:58:51,440 –> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: And I think the final throw was maybe a symptom

1311
00:58:53,960 –> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: of that, where I mean he had Shakiro open, he

1312
00:58:56,480 –> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: just missed him. Now do I agree with going for

1313
00:58:58,960 –> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: two there? No, But they had it. It worked, the

1314
00:59:01,680 –> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: scheme worked, and you just didn’t hit the throw. I

1315
00:59:04,880 –> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: still do have the Bills going to the Super Bowl though. Yeah,

1316
00:59:08,120 –> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: so I have the Bills beating the Patriots in New

1317
00:59:10,560 –> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: England for the AFC Championship Game.

1318
00:59:13,760 –> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean but the Bills are currently seven.

1319
00:59:16,720 –> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Bills are seven?

1320
00:59:19,120 –> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: Is that that’s possible to play New England in the

1321
00:59:21,000 –> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: first round?

1322
00:59:23,800 –> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: Right?

1323
00:59:24,280 –> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh?

1324
00:59:24,480 –> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Good point? Yeah, you’re right.

1325
00:59:26,320 –> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean it.

1326
00:59:26,720 –> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: That was like a sexy It’s just doesn’t it doesn’t.

1327
00:59:29,640 –> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: This doesn’t fit my narrative at all.

1328
00:59:31,320 –> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: Well, I love it.

1329
00:59:33,480 –> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to play and be here? Yeah, hm hmm.

1330
00:59:37,800 –> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: Is it impossible for Buffalo to move? Like if the

1331
00:59:41,560 –> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: Chargers lose to the Broncos and the Bills win, the

1332
00:59:47,440 –> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: Bills would jump them right and be the six.

1333
00:59:48,800 –> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: Bills would up them.

1334
00:59:49,880 –> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so it’s technically it’s possible.

1335
00:59:52,400 –> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it’s possible. I just were doing it based on

1336
00:59:54,640 –> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: today’s seatings, because yeah, we don’t know, so based on

1337
00:59:57,960 –> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: if they were the seven. You’re saying you got to

1338
01:00:00,160 –> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: go to New England and win, and then that will

1339
01:00:02,200 –> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: be easy, and then you’d have to go to Denver

1340
01:00:04,200 –> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: and win.

1341
01:00:05,560 –> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: It’d be tough, wouldn’t it, right, And then who’s ever left?

1342
01:00:08,520 –> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to bring up the Bills first.

1343
01:00:10,280 –> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: Because I really think Josh Allen is hurt.

1344
01:00:12,520 –> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: I think he’s playing.

1345
01:00:13,520 –> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: Through a ton of pain. He got added a second

1346
01:00:15,840 –> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 4: injury in this game, he got the knee twisted. I

1347
01:00:18,800 –> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: think this is going to be a lost season for

1348
01:00:20,360 –> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: the Bills. I actually think that, barring a change of

1349
01:00:23,280 –> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: where the Seeds are, I don’t think they actually with

1350
01:00:25,200 –> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: him not being mobile, go to New England and win.

1351
01:00:27,320 –> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: I think New England would be incredibly motivated having blown

1352
01:00:29,680 –> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: that twenty one nothing lead against the Bills. But to

1353
01:00:32,560 –> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: be fascinating, right because then we’re really like, who is

1354
01:00:34,560 –> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: the team moving forward in the AFC East. But I

1355
01:00:37,680 –> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: want to get back to you, So assuming that where

1356
01:00:40,080 –> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 4: we are right now, you still believe that the Bills

1357
01:00:41,920 –> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: will be in the AFC Championship game.

1358
01:00:43,520 –> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: Here’s why. I just have not seen it from these

1359
01:00:45,800 –> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: other teams in the AFC, and.

1360
01:00:48,040 –> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 4: Well, they haven’t been there right in these kind of

1361
01:00:49,880 –> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 4: big games exactly, no way to know how they’re going

1362
01:00:52,280 –> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: to perform under pressure.

1363
01:00:53,560 –> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: I have seen Josh Allen be miraculous in playoff games,

1364
01:00:58,520 –> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: and again this is all made caveat if he can’t

1365
01:01:01,240 –> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: get healthy, like if he’s not anything, if he’s the

1366
01:01:03,760 –> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: player he was against the Eagles. No, they can’t go

1367
01:01:06,160 –> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: on a yeah, not hobbling around like, but but if

1368
01:01:09,160 –> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: he’s able to heal up and be at least a

1369
01:01:12,760 –> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: semblance of himself in the postseason, I cannot say someone

1370
01:01:17,360 –> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: else is going to beat that guy in the playoffs

1371
01:01:19,560 –> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: when that someone else is a player who has only

1372
01:01:23,200 –> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: one playoff win in the case of Trevor Lawrence or CJ.

1373
01:01:28,120 –> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: Stroud one playoff wine, but Bowe Nicks Owen won the playoffs.

1374
01:01:32,520 –> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: Drake may never been in the playoffs. Like, I just

1375
01:01:34,200 –> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: have a hard time betting against Josh Allen in those moments. So, like,

1376
01:01:39,080 –> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: could the Bills lose in the wild card round? Of

1377
01:01:41,600 –> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: course they could, like they’re not playing very well right now.

1378
01:01:43,680 –> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: But I just I look at the quarterbacks at the

1379
01:01:46,200 –> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: end of the day and the experience of the quarterbacks,

1380
01:01:48,640 –> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: and if Allen is healthy at all, I think he

1381
01:01:51,600 –> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: has a chance to go on a run this year.

1382
01:01:53,400 –> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: And if he doesn’t, that’s a big conversation in the offseason,

1383
01:01:57,320 –> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: because you got no Burrow, you got no Mahomes. In

1384
01:01:59,520 –> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: these playoff you are the most experienced guy outside of

1385
01:02:02,480 –> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. If he makes it, And I just I

1386
01:02:06,040 –> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: don’t know that would be a big deal if they

1387
01:02:07,560 –> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: can’t even make it to the title game. So I’m

1388
01:02:09,840 –> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: gonna say Buffalo for now, but it’s the caveat of

1389
01:02:11,920 –> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: he has to be at least a little bit healthy.

1390
01:02:13,960 –> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: Okay, And who are they playing? Well?

1391
01:02:16,360 –> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: I love the idea of them playing New England, but

1392
01:02:18,120 –> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: if it’s not possible.

1393
01:02:20,160 –> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: Today, it could be bait. You know, come come late

1394
01:02:22,400 –> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 4: Sunday night. You know they might be in the sixth spot.

1395
01:02:25,040 –> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that’s what I get for that properly doing the

1396
01:02:27,680 –> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: math here. It could be Denver. It could be Denver,

1397
01:02:32,480 –> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: And I have questions about Denver. Their defense is really good,

1398
01:02:37,160 –> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: but I think it has declined a bit over the

1399
01:02:40,960 –> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: course of the season. They’ve won all these razors edge games.

1400
01:02:45,440 –> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: I believe they’ve actually tied the Chiefs record from last

1401
01:02:47,960 –> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: year in terms of one score victories. It’s a tough

1402
01:02:50,880 –> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: way to live. Could they do it?

1403
01:02:53,000 –> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Sure?

1404
01:02:53,400 –> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: But I could also see them losing their first playoff

1405
01:02:56,640 –> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: game because of how they play football. So at the

1406
01:03:00,200 –> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: same time, I want to say Jacksonville, but Jacksonville has

1407
01:03:03,040 –> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: never gotten past the divisional round in recent memory. But

1408
01:03:06,240 –> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: you know what, for fun, let’s say let’s say, Jacksonville

1409
01:03:10,880 –> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: and Buffalo. If New England in Buffalo doesn’t work.

1410
01:03:14,840 –> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: Out, Okay, all right, I am I’m actually gonna go

1411
01:03:18,960 –> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: with what I think based not just on record, but

1412
01:03:21,080 –> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 4: who’ve been the two best football teams in AFC throughout

1413
01:03:23,480 –> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: the season. It’s going to be your one and two seeds.

1414
01:03:25,720 –> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: It’s going to be the New England Patriots at the

1415
01:03:27,520 –> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: Denver Broncos.

1416
01:03:28,600 –> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And again you’re what.

1417
01:03:31,360 –> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 4: I’m doing there is forecasting based on the regular season.

1418
01:03:34,480 –> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: I am not taking in playoff experience, which I think

1419
01:03:36,760 –> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: is huge. If Josh Allen was one hundred percent healthy,

1420
01:03:39,400 –> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: I would definitely have the Bills in there. I just

1421
01:03:41,760 –> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: look every time he really needed to run or do

1422
01:03:43,920 –> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: something the other day, he clearly was doing anything he

1423
01:03:46,680 –> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: could to avoid running. If he’s not a mobile quarterback.

1424
01:03:49,600 –> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: I just don’t think the rest of the Bills are

1425
01:03:51,200 –> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: good enough. They really need to upgrade at receiver. Like

1426
01:03:53,520 –> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 4: their tight ends are great, but their receivers just aren’t

1427
01:03:55,760 –> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 4: good enough. I think there’s a lot of questions in

1428
01:03:57,640 –> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 4: Buffalo moving forward. If this thing ends in the first

1429
01:03:59,760 –> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 4: round this year, you know, you could easily just reload.

1430
01:04:02,560 –> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: But boy, this has been a lot of wasted years then,

1431
01:04:04,640 –> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: and with no Mahomes and Burrow in the playoffs, that

1432
01:04:07,200 –> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: will be a monster missed opportunity. That’s gonna be a

1433
01:04:09,200 –> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 4: tough one for Bill’s mafia to swallow. Yeah, which brings

1434
01:04:12,720 –> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 4: me to my final thought this week. I know nothing

1435
01:04:16,000 –> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: more about Travis Kelsey’s future plans than anybody watching this,

1436
01:04:20,120 –> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 4: but I just want to say a few things about

1437
01:04:21,880 –> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey because I only really got to know him

1438
01:04:24,000 –> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 4: starting in twenty nineteen. At that time, he was already

1439
01:04:26,760 –> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 4: considered one of the great tight ends of his generation,

1440
01:04:28,840 –> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: but I frankly didn’t know much more about him other

1441
01:04:30,760 –> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: than statistically he’s gonna go down as maybe the greatest

1442
01:04:35,200 –> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 4: tight end of all. In my book, he’ll be the

1443
01:04:36,880 –> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: greatest tight end of all, certainly the best offensive tight

1444
01:04:39,440 –> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 4: end in terms of skills with the ball, his play

1445
01:04:42,800 –> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 4: in the postseason, I mean, the all time leader in

1446
01:04:44,920 –> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: receptions in postseason history. But I think my greatest takeaway

1447
01:04:48,840 –> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 4: will be what kind of guy this guy is? Like

1448
01:04:51,440 –> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: you know, any any industry you’re working in. If to

1449
01:04:54,560 –> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: you and I are having a conversation and one of

1450
01:04:56,320 –> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: us that knows something, what kind of guy is? Is

1451
01:04:58,440 –> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 4: he a good guy.

1452
01:04:59,360 –> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: That’s it.

1453
01:04:59,760 –> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: That’s usually like what guys want to know, is he

1454
01:05:01,400 –> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 4: good guy?

1455
01:05:02,360 –> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: Well?

1456
01:05:02,520 –> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: I can say that from my experience in the like

1457
01:05:05,480 –> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: going into a seventh year, Travis Kelsey is one of

1458
01:05:08,320 –> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: my all time favorite players I’ve ever met in any sport.

1459
01:05:11,320 –> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: He has an ability to make everybody feel better than

1460
01:05:14,520 –> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 4: they did five minutes before he walks into the room.

1461
01:05:17,560 –> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: I thought his fiance nailed it, which he said, Travis

1462
01:05:21,600 –> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: is like a human exclamation mark. I was like, he

1463
01:05:24,120 –> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 4: really does, because sometimes he’s not doing it like a

1464
01:05:26,080 –> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: wow way, he’s not hyping you up, but he just

1465
01:05:28,520 –> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 4: feel good, whether it’s the way he puts his hand

1466
01:05:30,440 –> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 4: on your shoulder or patsy on the back after an interview.

1467
01:05:33,560 –> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 4: He’s just one of a kind. And if this is

1468
01:05:35,920 –> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: it for Travis, what an incredible career. I mean, this

1469
01:05:38,960 –> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 4: is a guy who I think in your best case scenier,

1470
01:05:42,040 –> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: I don’t know if we were like, this guy’s gonna

1471
01:05:43,520 –> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: be a first ballot Hall of Fame room when he

1472
01:05:45,200 –> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 4: comes out of Cincinnati, and in fact, his college career

1473
01:05:47,440 –> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: was almost derailed, right, we might not ever even known

1474
01:05:49,400 –> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 4: who Travis was. To see what he’s become, what he’s

1475
01:05:53,280 –> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: done for Chief Kingdom, what he’s done really for the

1476
01:05:56,160 –> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: greater metro area. I mean, Kansas City is a focal

1477
01:05:59,200 –> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: point of the world, and he, along with Patrick Mahomes

1478
01:06:01,920 –> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: he ain’t reading the WHO organization, deserve a lot of credit.

1479
01:06:04,080 –> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 4: But Travis is the ultimate glue guy, the guy that

1480
01:06:07,600 –> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: every single guy on the team feels connected to. And

1481
01:06:10,360 –> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 4: every great team needs the perfect glue guy, and Travis

1482
01:06:14,240 –> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 4: has been that guy. And I’m just forever grateful that

1483
01:06:16,760 –> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: our paths crossed and I had a chance to be

1484
01:06:19,120 –> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 4: around him, talk to him every preseason. Just a one

1485
01:06:22,680 –> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 4: of a kind guy. He’s gonna have great success whenever

1486
01:06:25,200 –> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 4: he does from here. But what a gift to Chiefs Kingdom.

1487
01:06:27,600 –> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 4: And congratulations to Travis. If this is it incredible career,

1488
01:06:31,320 –> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: I would love for you to come back play another

1489
01:06:33,320 –> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: couple of years, whatever it is, if it’s a slightly

1490
01:06:35,200 –> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: reduced role. Really, this is just me showing some love

1491
01:06:39,240 –> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: for a guy that I truly admire as both a

1492
01:06:41,160 –> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: player and a person. That’s my final thought for this week.

1493
01:06:44,200 –> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: That was well said. It’s good timing because Mitch and

1494
01:06:46,600 –> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: I filmed the other parts of this podcast earlier today

1495
01:06:50,120 –> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: and we talked all about Travis on the back end,

1496
01:06:52,400 –> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: So stick around if you want to hear more about it.

1497
01:06:54,720 –> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: And I feel about Travis Kelsey because I couldn’t agree

1498
01:06:58,320 –> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: more with you whether this is his last game or

1499
01:07:00,920 –> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: it’s not, and I agree, I hope it’s not his

1500
01:07:02,680 –> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: last game, but either way, we should use this as

1501
01:07:06,240 –> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: an opportunity to celebrate the amazing player in person that

1502
01:07:09,800 –> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: he is and how he changed everything for this organization

1503
01:07:14,240 –> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: arriving here in twenty thirteen. Think about that, like Coach

1504
01:07:18,200 –> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: Reid got here in twenty thirteen, Travis kelce got here

1505
01:07:20,720 –> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen and everything changed from then on out.

1506
01:07:24,000 –> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: It’s pretty cool. And again, whether this is his last

1507
01:07:27,400 –> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: game or not, I’m going to celebrate how amazing Travis

1508
01:07:30,720 –> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: Kelcey is and how influential he’s been to this franchise

1509
01:07:34,600 –> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: over the last decade plus on Sunday because he deserves that.

1510
01:07:39,560 –> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: I have kind of a similar final thought, maybe on

1511
01:07:41,920 –> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: a larger scale team wise, and it’s about perspective. So

1512
01:07:47,640 –> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: we’ve been to Allegiance once since Super Bowl fifty eight,

1513
01:07:53,240 –> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: and when I was there, I found myself looking at

1514
01:07:56,320 –> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: the spot where Mkchole Hartman caught the game winning touchdown

1515
01:07:58,680 –> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: in overtime, and I’ll be doing that again on Sunday

1516
01:08:01,160 –> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: before the game. And I said this earlier in the

1517
01:08:05,240 –> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: podcast with mitche You know, I so badly want to

1518
01:08:08,680 –> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: have the perspective all the time, but sometimes you can’t

1519
01:08:11,400 –> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: truly appreciate an amazing run of success until you have

1520
01:08:15,240 –> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: a down season, right, And this has been a down season,

1521
01:08:18,680 –> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: and it has me reflecting on the triumphs of this

1522
01:08:21,439 –> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs team over the years. In super Bowl fifty eight

1523
01:08:24,280 –> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: and the run to get there, you just can’t top it,

1524
01:08:27,320 –> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to win a consecutive Super Bowl championship

1525
01:08:31,920 –> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: in overtime on a walk off in a division rival

1526
01:08:35,640 –> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: stadium and John Elway brings you the trophy, remember that,

1527
01:08:39,960 –> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: like nothing can top that for a Chiefs fan in

1528
01:08:42,600 –> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: my opinion, at least in terms of my fandom. And

1529
01:08:45,640 –> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: it was an amazing you for incredible night where we

1530
01:08:49,439 –> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: put a lot of time and effort into this for

1531
01:08:51,520 –> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: what we do right and to see the team and

1532
01:08:54,960 –> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: to be a part of it as they achieve one

1533
01:08:56,960 –> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: of the greatest things in NFL history. It really really cool,

1534
01:09:01,680 –> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: and I know this team will get back to that moment.

1535
01:09:03,840 –> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: But when you have a season like this, it makes

1536
01:09:05,320 –> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: you appreciate those moments even more so, long winded way

1537
01:09:08,520 –> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: of me saying that, on Sunday before the game, I

1538
01:09:10,960 –> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: will be going over to where McCole caught that ball

1539
01:09:13,240 –> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: and I’ll be thinking about that night because that night

1540
01:09:15,920 –> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: was pretty special.

1541
01:09:17,360 –> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: It was epic, and my favorite part of that play

1542
01:09:19,439 –> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 4: was that Harbin didn’t really know that they just won

1543
01:09:21,560 –> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: the game. I just love that he was that in

1544
01:09:24,320 –> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 4: the moment that Patrick had to tell him that’s it,

1545
01:09:26,479 –> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 4: we won the Super Bowl. That’s great stuff from you, Matt.

1546
01:09:29,880 –> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: This would be our final podcast for twenty twenty five.

1547
01:09:32,400 –> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 4: I want to wish everybody in Chief Kingdom, everybody who

1548
01:09:34,840 –> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 4: watches Defending the Kingdom, happy New Year. Let’s have a

1549
01:09:37,360 –> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: great twenty twenty six. I’m so grateful for you, Matt.

1550
01:09:40,360 –> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: I know we’re gonna have some great times next year

1551
01:09:42,360 –> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 4: and that will do it. For this week’s episode about

1552
01:09:44,640 –> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 4: West with Ari Wolf enjoy the games this weekend, everybody.

1553
01:09:48,000 –> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: Thanks to Ari and all of his work all season

1554
01:09:50,640 –> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: long for keeping everything scoped out throughout the National Football

1555
01:09:54,680 –> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: League and especial the AFC West. A lot of speculation

1556
01:09:58,720 –> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: about the future of tre Kelsey. Kelse will let us

1557
01:10:01,880 –> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: know when he wants us to know it. But there

1558
01:10:05,000 –> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: was a lot of things rolling through my mind in

1559
01:10:07,560 –> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: that Christmas night game, and people have asked me if

1560
01:10:11,600 –> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: that was his last home game, what you remember, and

1561
01:10:14,240 –> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: to me, it’ll be his last play in the fact

1562
01:10:16,760 –> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: that he was trying to dive to make this valiant

1563
01:10:19,000 –> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: attempt with two guys, two Broncos all over him on

1564
01:10:22,479 –> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: a pass was a little wide from Chris Olodokin, but

1565
01:10:26,040 –> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: Kelse was going to give it all. He had to

1566
01:10:27,479 –> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: try to catch that thing and if he caught it,

1567
01:10:29,640 –> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: Dan and Hughes had already given the prophecy I like

1568
01:10:32,120 –> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: he’s going to Kelse will gets the touchdown and the

1569
01:10:34,640 –> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: two point conversion and the Chiefs will win twenty one

1570
01:10:37,240 –> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: to twenty. We don’t know if this will be Kelse’s

1571
01:10:39,760 –> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: last game or not, but if it is or is,

1572
01:10:43,880 –> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: it doesn’t take away from this guy’s one of one

1573
01:10:46,960 –> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: and the fact that he’s played twelve one hundred snaps.

1574
01:10:50,080 –> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: He has ten National Football League records. In this game,

1575
01:10:53,760 –> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: he has a chance to eclip thirteen thousand yards in

1576
01:10:56,680 –> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: his career and continue to move up and also be

1577
01:11:00,840 –> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: the second most productive tight end NFL history as far

1578
01:11:04,960 –> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: as yards are concerned. So is this it for Kels?

1579
01:11:08,880 –> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: I don’t know, but if it is or isn’t, I

1580
01:11:11,200 –> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: want to soak in every possible second.

1581
01:11:13,880 –> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost doesn’t matter if it is the last

1582
01:11:16,560 –> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: game for him or not, because regardless, we should use

1583
01:11:19,240 –> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: it as an opportunity to appreciate his greatness in how

1584
01:11:22,840 –> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: he’s changed everything around here. I think it’s so cool

1585
01:11:26,080 –> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: that he has been here since day one in terms

1586
01:11:28,600 –> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 2: of building this thing with Coach Read. He is the

1587
01:11:31,640 –> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: last player to be on this team that was here

1588
01:11:35,120 –> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: when it all began with Coach Read in twenty thirteen,

1589
01:11:37,640 –> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: by far. And to think the things that we have

1590
01:11:40,240 –> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: achieved as a team, as a franchise, as an organization,

1591
01:11:43,640 –> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: as a community, with Travis Kelcey at the forefront of

1592
01:11:47,320 –> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: all of it is pretty cool. This team was coming

1593
01:11:49,880 –> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: off a two and fourteen season. Things were not good,

1594
01:11:52,760 –> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey arrived here in twenty thirteen, and ever

1595
01:11:56,000 –> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: since then, all we’ve known is ascension. All we’ve known

1596
01:11:59,479 –> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: is memorable moments and things you will never forget. Championships.

1597
01:12:04,680 –> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: Let’s think him this morning about after the twenty twenty

1598
01:12:07,920 –> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 2: two AFC Championship game, him on stage. You know, calling

1599
01:12:11,720 –> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: out the Cincinnati mayor and all that stuff, and just

1600
01:12:14,240 –> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: the pure joy and euphoria that this guy has brought

1601
01:12:17,400 –> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: all of us for over a decade. It’s really cool.

1602
01:12:21,960 –> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: And I never get tired of watching Travis Kelsey set

1603
01:12:24,479 –> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: records and move up the record books. You mentioned the

1604
01:12:26,920 –> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 2: yard stuff. There’s another one that has my attention. So

1605
01:12:29,720 –> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: he passed Akwan Bolden for the ninth most catches in

1606
01:12:32,960 –> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: NFL history last week. He’s at one thousand and seventy seven. Amazing.

1607
01:12:38,479 –> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: He needs just two more to pass Tarrell Owens for

1608
01:12:41,439 –> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: eighth on that list. Listen to the players that have

1609
01:12:44,000 –> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: more catches other than Owens than Kelsey and NFL history.

1610
01:12:48,640 –> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Tony Gonzalez, Jason Witten, Marvin Harrison,

1611
01:12:53,640 –> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: Chris Carter, and Tim Brown. That’s the list. We’re watching

1612
01:12:57,160 –> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: one of the greatest players to that list. Yeah, I mean,

1613
01:13:00,600 –> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: and it’s almost incredible to me. It’s more incredible to

1614
01:13:03,920 –> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: compare him to all pass catchers because he’s not just

1615
01:13:07,400 –> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: the greatest tight end in NFL history, he’s one of

1616
01:13:10,000 –> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: the greatest pass catchers in NFL history. We’re watching Jerry

1617
01:13:13,800 –> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: Rice on the Chiefs and he can still do it

1618
01:13:16,080 –> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: with the best of them. So yeah, I hope it’s

1619
01:13:19,120 –> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 2: not his last game. If it is, he has nothing

1620
01:13:21,760 –> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: left to prove. I mean, he’s the greatest tight end

1621
01:13:23,880 –> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: of all time in my opinion, a future Hall of Famer.

1622
01:13:25,840 –> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: But regardless of his decision, we have to appreciate and

1623
01:13:29,240 –> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 2: embrace how special he is and how he’s changed everything

1624
01:13:33,000 –> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: for you and me, for everyone in Chief’s Kingdom, for

1625
01:13:36,439 –> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: this franchise, and really for any football fan anywhere in

1626
01:13:40,280 –> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: the world.

1627
01:13:41,920 –> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: And maybe if it is Travis Kelcey’s last game, it’s

1628
01:13:46,360 –> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: another reason why you win this game. Would you want

1629
01:13:50,000 –> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: to win Travis Kelsey’s final game as a Chief or

1630
01:13:53,640 –> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: would you want to lose it? I think you and

1631
01:13:56,000 –> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: I know that answer. Five