Rookie Minicamp and UDFA Recap | Defending the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: Hey, you dan until the day when you get off.

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Speaker 2: During this guy, they.

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Speaker 3: Can play touchdown, Chance City. The chants, all right.

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Speaker 1: The thick of it baby.

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Speaker 3: Hello once again everyone, and welcome to this edition of

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Speaker 3: Defending the Kingdom, brought to you by Ticketmaster and yes,

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Speaker 3: the schedule being announced this week. Ticket Master will be

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Speaker 3: your new best friend for both home and away games.

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Speaker 3: We’re excited first of all about the schedule. We’ll do

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Speaker 3: a DTK later in the week that will detail the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three schedule, but we cannot wait. It’s like

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Speaker 3: opening the packages and during the holidays.

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Speaker 2: It’s a great example of how the NFL has taken

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Speaker 2: over the world and the entire calendar, where we are

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Speaker 2: months away from any games being played. But first of all,

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Speaker 2: the announcement of the announcement is a big deal. Like

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Speaker 2: everyone’s freaking out when we know when the schedule will

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Speaker 2: be announced. They came out on Monday saying that it’ll

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Speaker 2: come out on Thursday. We’ll hear sporadically about certain games

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Speaker 2: in the meantime, but.

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Speaker 1: It’s a big deal.

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Speaker 2: We already know our opponents, but we’ll figure out when

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Speaker 2: the primetime games are. When the Thursday night games, the

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Speaker 2: Monday Night games are and also the order that we’re

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Speaker 2: playing all these games in so excited for that so

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Speaker 2: we can figure out our lives here for the next

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Speaker 2: six months.

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Speaker 3: I don’t know if it worked with your parents, It

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Speaker 3: didn’t with mine, to do the begging of can I

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Speaker 3: open just one and I just open one gift before Christmas?

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Speaker 3: And that never worked. But that’s kind of the way

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Speaker 3: NFL fans are, just and then they’ll leak a little

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Speaker 3: bit out like that. Maybe our opening Thursday night game

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Speaker 3: or the international games are going to be a and

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Speaker 3: they just give a little bit out, a little bit

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Speaker 3: at a time, just to keep your appetite wetted. Well

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Speaker 3: for us. The next thing was the rookie Mini Camp,

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Speaker 3: quite honestly, and you go back and watch previous Defending

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Speaker 3: the Kingdoms. By the way, I’m Mitch Holt, his voice

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Speaker 3: of the Chase. I didn’t even introduces and he’s Matt McMullen,

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Speaker 3: senior team reporter. But Rookie Mini Camp, You’re like, gosh,

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Speaker 3: does that even matter? Yes, it does. Remember, every day matters.

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Speaker 3: We’ll get into that and what especially dealing with the

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Speaker 3: undrafted rookie free agents with the Chiefs have a great

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Speaker 3: history of great udfas that have become awesome players, some

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Speaker 3: of the best in franchise history. We’ll get into that

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Speaker 3: in a second, but before we do so, let’s go

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Speaker 3: around the world. Our Rookie Mini Camp Edition, Our UDFA

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Speaker 3: edition of around the World.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be a big time NERD episode. Just

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Speaker 2: bracing yourself. Now, this is NERD. If you truly love football,

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Speaker 2: you’ll enjoy this episode. Us talking about Rookie Minni Camp

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Speaker 2: here in May. But first let’s go around the world.

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Speaker 2: I have six today people around the world listening to

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Speaker 2: d DK. We have Susan and Amarillo, Brian Cook for

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Speaker 2: Brian Cook.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: We have Susan in Amarillo, Texas. I think it’s our

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Speaker 2: first Amarillo listener. Ben is in Chinfield, Essex, United Kingdom. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jack is in Madera Ranchos, California. Madera Ranchos, California.

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Speaker 3: You got me on that one, buddy, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jack. Penny is in Calhoun, Missouri. You

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Speaker 1: know where that is?

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Speaker 3: I don’t, I’ll figure that outy give me all time.

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Speaker 2: Joe’s in Tucson, Arizona. Preston is in Waverley, Iowa. And

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Speaker 2: a bonus, we have an update on where Denver, Iowa is.

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Speaker 2: Remember last week we’re trying to figure out where Denver,

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Speaker 2: Iowa was. Well, it’s just north of Waterloo.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I’m a town of two thousand people. I like

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Speaker 1: it a lot.

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Speaker 3: I love those small towns. That’s packer country though you

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Speaker 3: get north of Waterloo, you’re up in there in that

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Speaker 3: northeastern part of Iowa. A lot of packer country. But

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Speaker 3: thank you for representing the Chief kingdom. And be close

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Speaker 3: when the Chiefs play the Packers in whatever a week

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Speaker 3: that would be, when the Chiefs go to play at

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Speaker 3: lambeau Field again against green Bay and now what is

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Speaker 3: it Calhoun Missouri?

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Speaker 1: Calhoun Missouri homework, He’s.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be blowing up penny with all the folks. He

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Speaker 3: don’t know where Calhoun, Missouri is. So thank you for

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Speaker 3: the geography, lesson. But love it when we go around

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Speaker 3: the world, and honestly love it when we get to

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Speaker 3: watch to nerd out on rookie mini camp and the

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Speaker 3: undrafted free agents. Think about in Chief history, guys like

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Speaker 3: oh Deron Cherry, who was at the rookie dinner on

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Speaker 3: Friday night that I got to MC and I mentioned

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Speaker 3: there were nine legends there former players including Deron Cherry,

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Speaker 3: and I mentioned all of the u DFAs of the

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Speaker 3: seventy nine players that were part of Rookie Mini Camp,

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Speaker 3: the seven draft picks that’s last week’s episode, but then

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Speaker 3: the undrafted rookie free agents that are already under contract,

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Speaker 3: Guys like Mike Kelliendo comes to mind, played center throughout

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Speaker 3: the Rookie Mini Camp. But the undrafted free agents down

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Speaker 3: the Andy Reid era, a guy like Tershaun Wharton, Turk Wharton,

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Speaker 3: the pride of Missouri Rala, the University of Missouri Rala,

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Speaker 3: and what he has done to help this team win.

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Speaker 3: His incredible play against Washington Commanders back in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: Darryl Williams part of a Super Bowl championship Byron Pringle

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Speaker 3: makes the key block on the run to immortality that

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Speaker 3: makes it a touchdown and not a first down. It’s

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Speaker 3: the most underrated block in Super Bowl fifty four. Marcus Camp,

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Speaker 3: we know what he did. Ron Parker undrafted free agent

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Speaker 3: and then dirty Dan Sorenson. Who of these ten years

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs, you think that Dirty Dan Sorenson was an

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Speaker 3: to help the Chiefs become a champion and to make

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Speaker 3: this string of seven straight AFC West titles, Dirty Dan

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Speaker 2: There’s so much attention put on the first round of

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Speaker 2: the draft, and for good reason, but the best teams

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Speaker 2: be in the draft room when Brett Veach and his

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Speaker 2: front office people are identifying all of these guys because

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Speaker 2: they’re the best in the business at finding contributors once

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Speaker 1: You mentioned some of them.

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Speaker 2: A few others, guys like Shane Bouchel at quarterback was

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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent a few years ago. Tommy Townsend,

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Speaker 2: one of the best punters in the NFL, was an

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Speaker 2: un drafted free agent. And Jack Cochran one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite players. I was talk about him because my wife

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Speaker 2: went to the University of South Dakota where Jack went.

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Speaker 2: But Jack made a huge play, a huge block on

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Speaker 2: sky Moore’s punt return against the Bengals that put the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs in a position to go win that game in

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. So every year, I say, you

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Speaker 2: might not know who these guys are initially, but one

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Speaker 2: some point this upcoming season and we’ll look back on

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Speaker 2: it and say their career with the Chiefs began during

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Speaker 2: this rookie mini.

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Speaker 3: Camp and Tommy Townsen had a chance to introduce him

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Speaker 3: to the throng on Friday down at the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 3: and to think how he shattered the gross and net

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Speaker 3: punting records, and think about Gerald Wilson in this history

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Speaker 3: of this franchise, and then also Dustin Colquoot and what

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Speaker 3: Tommy Townsend did last year to really just kind of

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Speaker 3: dominate net punting for sure in the National Football League

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Speaker 3: and being an undrafted free agent, let’s talk about rookie

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Speaker 3: mini camp overall too. You think does that really matter?

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Speaker 3: And yes it does, because let’s just take the seven

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Speaker 3: draft picks before we die into some of the undrafted

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Speaker 3: rookie free agents and guys. I mean, when you think

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Speaker 3: was so hot it felt like Saint Joseph. It felt

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Speaker 3: weekend of May. You’re talking mid nineties and the two

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Speaker 3: days you’re on there just the surface of the sun

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Speaker 3: on Saturday and Sunday. And we know with a guy

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Speaker 3: like a wide receiver like Rashia Rice, who the chiefs

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Speaker 3: are counting on on, how coach reads approaches that rep

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Speaker 3: after rep after rep after rep. All of these receivers

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Speaker 3: have to know every position. Are you an ex ya

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Speaker 3: ze y y you slot? You got to know them all?

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Speaker 3: And I mean he got a lot of reps in

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Speaker 3: the heat. Same with the other rookies that were participating,

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Speaker 3: fully participating. Felix Anderduke Yuzama was not because of the

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Speaker 3: broken hand, but he did some. But the point here

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Speaker 3: is this was an orientation of how the chiefs work

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Speaker 3: and how the chiefs practice, and oh they had to

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Speaker 3: do it in an unusual ninety degree heat that left

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Speaker 3: a lasting impression with everybody in this rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 3: and especially the seven draft picks.

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Speaker 2: And let’s explain a little bit about what rookie minie

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Speaker 2: camp even is. It’s three days. It began on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and lasted until Monday. Seventy nine total participants were on

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Speaker 2: the roster. Doesn’t mean all of them participated, but seventy

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Speaker 2: nine guys were on the rookie mini camp roster for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Fifty one tryout players. Those are players that

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Speaker 2: can maybe earn a contract. Sixteen undrafted free agent signees participated,

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Speaker 2: seven draft picks, four eligible veterans. You mentioned that guys

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Speaker 2: like Mike Caliendo who didn’t play in any NFL games

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Speaker 2: last year but not a rookie though, but they’re still

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Speaker 2: able to participate in this camp, and one International Player

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Speaker 2: Pathway Program signee from Nigeria. So just a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of players really in one spot. Seventy nine players. Think

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Speaker 2: about that, that’s larger than a normal in season NFL roster.

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Speaker 2: And what’s so amazing about the Chiefs is they’re so

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Speaker 2: efficient and they’re so good at planning and programming all

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Speaker 2: of this where they can maximize every single minute. Now

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Speaker 2: there are discussions about the playbook, they run, plays they

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Speaker 2: do installs, all that kind of stuff, But almost more importantly,

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Speaker 2: they just give these guys a chance to learn about

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Speaker 2: the facility. Where’s the bathroom, where’s the locker room? How

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Speaker 2: do I put my jersey on? How’s practice work? That’s

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Speaker 2: what this is all about. You said orientation. That’s a

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Speaker 2: great way of putting it. Because when OTAs start in

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Speaker 2: a few weeks, the veterans will be here and they’re

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Speaker 2: going one hundred miles per hour and there’s not the

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Speaker 2: time for all the individual one on one coaching from

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Speaker 2: the coordinators and from all the position coaches because they’re

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Speaker 2: working with the veterans as well. This was a chance

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Speaker 2: to get a head start to learn, Okay, this is

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Speaker 2: how I do it. Let’s figure out the muscle memory

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Speaker 2: of how each day at practice works to be a

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Speaker 2: member of the Kansas City Chiefs. So when OTAs roll

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Speaker 2: around in a few weeks, these rookies can hit the

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Speaker 2: ground running. They know how it all works. So rookie

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Speaker 2: mini camp is super important. Very easy to dismiss, but

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be full? This is full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: I’m just to put it all out there.

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Speaker 3: Your respect level and the king this went up fifty notches,

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Speaker 2: been drafted like in the fourth or fifth round. I

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Speaker 2: truly believe that because Dane Brugler from The Athletic, my

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Speaker 2: favorite draft analysts. I read his draft guide like it’s

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Speaker 2: the Bible. He had him being drafted in the fifth

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Speaker 2: or sixth round, even with that injury in mind, because

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Speaker 2: look at his numbers and his production At Indiana, he

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Speaker 2: racked up two hundred and eight tackles, thirteen and a

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Speaker 2: half tackles for loss, eleven passes defense, seven sacks, and

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Speaker 2: five forced fumbles in forty seven career games for the

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Speaker 2: Hoosiers on his way to a career season. Also, last year,

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Speaker 2: through five games, he was leading the Big Ten in

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Speaker 2: tackles per game before suffering that season ending injury. Just

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Speaker 2: a really impressive player, but not just what he does

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Speaker 2: on the field. When he got hurt last year, a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys could have checked out. They could have

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Speaker 2: just been rehabbing on their own, just staying away from

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Speaker 2: the program. Dan Brugler’s Draft Gud mentioned that Cam Jones

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Speaker 2: was on the sideline for every game as an additional coach,

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Speaker 2: even after he had gotten hurt and knew his season

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Speaker 2: was over, And I saw that when he spoke to

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Speaker 2: the media on Monday, he was talking about how much

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Speaker 2: he relished this opportunity and how much he enjoyed getting

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Speaker 2: to work with Coach Daily and the linebackers, and Coach

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Speaker 2: Daily apparently put a lot on his plate, but he

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Speaker 2: loved every second of it because he sees the linebacker

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Speaker 2: as the quarterback of the defense. Just all this kind

444
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Speaker 2: of stuff gets your attention. Right from a UDFA talking

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Speaker 2: like this certainly doesn’t seem like a player who doesn’t

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Speaker 2: believe he can play in the NFL. He thinks he

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Speaker 2: can make it in the NFL. And just based on

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Speaker 2: his production at Indiana and the head on his shoulders,

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Speaker 2: I think he has a great shot as well. So

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Speaker 2: I’m excited about Cam Jones, just not the football player,

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Speaker 2: also his cerebral part of the game as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who also fits this description almost to a te

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Speaker 3: is Isaiah Moore, the linebacker from NC State played a

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Speaker 3: lot for the NC State wolf Pack. He too was

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Speaker 3: a multi captain. He too played a lot there. And

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Speaker 3: speaking of understanding and acim and he just showed up.

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Speaker 3: I mean watching him Sunday and putarticular where again, what

458
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Speaker 3: are you developing with udfas? How much? How do they

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Speaker 3: make the team? Two things? One awesome depth, two special teams.

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Speaker 3: And Isaiah Moore, much like Cam Jones, fits that mold. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe Isaiah Moore is more of a mic backer a

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Speaker 3: middle backer than Cam Jones being a weak side backer.

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Speaker 3: Don’t know, you could see him doing both because I

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Speaker 3: think they’d have that ability. But Isaiah Moore, to me,

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Speaker 3: I didn’t know a lot about him coming in, not

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Speaker 3: as much as Cam Jones, but it sure made me

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Speaker 3: start to research him and I thought, oh my goodness,

468
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Speaker 3: this guy was very Cam Jones ish ish at NC

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Speaker 3: State when he was leading the way for the Wolfpack defense.

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Speaker 1: And also a lot of production from this guy in college.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five starts in his college career, team captain in

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Speaker 2: each of the last three seasons, three hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: one tackles in his career, just a tackle machine, forty

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Speaker 2: three and a half tackles for loss, eleven and a

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Speaker 2: half sacks, eleven passes defense, and for the wolf Pack.

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Speaker 2: Dan Bugler called him a smash mouth run defender. But

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Speaker 2: he was also pretty impressive in coverage during rookie mini

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Speaker 2: camp because he had an interception on Sunday per your report,

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Speaker 2: and then when I was watching him on Monday, also

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Speaker 2: had an interception off a tip pass. So Isaiah Moore

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Speaker 2: can do a little bit of everything, and you’re right,

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Speaker 2: Special teams is kind of where these guys would find

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Speaker 2: their role, especially initially his skill set would translate to

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Speaker 2: special teams, and he has experienced doing that as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Sunday interception caught my eye too because he

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Speaker 3: was defending Rashi Rice and it’s a middle pattern. So

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Speaker 3: to your point, he had to drop be recognized as coverage.

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Speaker 3: Then who’s in his area right looked like zone coverage.

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Speaker 3: But then he stayed with the play and actually got

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Speaker 3: a very athletic interception against the chief second round wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: But those are just examples. And then I also saw

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Speaker 3: and you can go into the class of twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Last week we talked about the draftees, but we’re a

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Speaker 3: Shamari Connor, a Specific, a BJ Thompson, and a Nick Jones,

495
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Speaker 3: and then you add these guys that special teams I

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Speaker 3: think could just be elevated in twenty twenty three. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the early take, too early to give opinion, would be

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Speaker 3: just that here in mid May or close to it,

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Speaker 3: that the Chief Special teams is going to be more

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Speaker 3: athletic and then more impactful.

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Speaker 2: It’s easy to look at special teams and not get

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Speaker 2: excited about it, but the Chiefs have had some of

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Speaker 2: the best special teams units in the NFL every year

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Speaker 2: since Dave Tobe got here. And to add a young athletic,

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Speaker 2: versatile players who are trying to earn their opportunity to

506
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Speaker 2: play on either offense or defense. So they’re hungry to

507
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Speaker 2: show what they can do on the field. They’re ready

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Speaker 2: for any opportunity, and if that opportunity is special teams,

509
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Speaker 2: this special teams unit should thrive because of that, and

510
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Speaker 2: teams can win or lose games because of their special teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Packers a few years ago

512
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Speaker 2: against the forty nine Ers in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: If the Packers special teams was just a little bit better,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn’t have been the forty nine Ers advancing. I

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Speaker 2: think it was the Division A round, actually not the

516
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Speaker 2: end championship game, but still the point remains, so special

517
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Speaker 2: teams are important, and I think not just our draft picks,

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Speaker 2: also the udfas that we brought in here have a

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Speaker 2: great chance to contribute on special teams. A few other

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Speaker 2: names just to gloss over here, that I think impressed

521
00:25:13,600 –> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: during rookie Minni Camp safety Anthony Cook from Texas. He

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Speaker 2: had an interception on Monday. A defensive end Truman Jones

523
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Speaker 2: from Harvard was impressive. He had thirteen tackles for loss

524
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Speaker 2: and six sacks last season, so an interesting prospect. And

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Speaker 2: there’s also a few local guys that we’re here in

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Speaker 2: town for Rookie Minni Camp that were under contract and

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Speaker 2: our udfas as of this recording. Safety Martes Manuel from

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Speaker 2: Missoo was in this camp as an undrafted free agent signee,

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Speaker 2: and then wide receiver Tyrone Scott from Missouri State and

530
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Speaker 2: cornerback Monterrey Braswell from Missouri State are both currently under

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Speaker 2: contract with the Chiefs as of Tuesday, and we’re in

532
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Speaker 2: this rookie camp, So some local products also impressing here

533
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Speaker 2: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: And again fully anticipate the next couple of days, maybe

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Speaker 3: already by the time you center watch this podcast that

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Speaker 3: we would sign one or two of the tryout guys

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Speaker 3: to the roster. We’ll close out this way again after

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Speaker 3: Rookie Mini Camp and looking at these udfas and what

539
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Speaker 3: they mean potentially to the Chiefs and how they impact

540
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Speaker 3: the entire NFL is now what because now it transitions

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Speaker 3: to the next part of the offseason program and then

542
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Speaker 3: to the OTAs and these undrafted free agents, these draft

543
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Speaker 3: picks get joined with the veterans now to do the OTAs,

544
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Speaker 3: which the Chiefs again, will approach it with a lot

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Speaker 3: more emphasis than a lot of teams throughout the National

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Speaker 3: Football League because Andy Reid wants to hit Saint Joseph running,

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Speaker 3: so he values these OTAs maybe as much or more

548
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Speaker 3: than any team in the league.

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Speaker 2: So we’re currently in Phase two, which means that the

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Speaker 2: rookies have left and the veterans can be here if

551
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Speaker 2: they want, and they can do very limited on field work.

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Speaker 2: What’s next is Phase three, and that includes OTAs. It’s

553
00:27:02,680 –> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: still very limited, but they can do some on field

554
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Speaker 2: stuff as a team. They can do team drills. Even

555
00:27:08,720 –> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: though there’s no hitting, there’s no tackling, there’s no pads on,

556
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Speaker 2: they can still look like a football team operating offense

557
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Speaker 2: versus defense.

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Speaker 1: And the rookies will be back for that. And like

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Speaker 1: we said at the top of the show, this is.

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Speaker 2: Their chance to use what they learned during rookie mini

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Speaker 2: camp and try to mesh right away with the defending

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions. And you’re so right. Coach Reid maximizes

563
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Speaker 2: every single second of OTAs, and not every team does that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams have gotten rid of OTAs altogether,

565
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Speaker 2: or they just do group bonding exercises, they go to

566
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Speaker 2: a driving range, or they go to an arcade together

567
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Speaker 2: to get to know each other.

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Speaker 1: Sure, that’s important.

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Speaker 2: I don’t think OTAs is the best time to do that,

570
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Speaker 2: because this is your chance and one of the only

571
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Speaker 2: times you can get with your team on the football

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Speaker 2: field and work as a team together. And by the

573
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Speaker 2: time you get to training camp, all of a sudden,

574
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Speaker 2: it’s not a whole bunch of new information. You are

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Speaker 2: just refining and mastering what you learned and practiced in

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Speaker 2: May in June. So if anyone tells you that OTAs

577
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Speaker 2: are not important, showing your two Super Bowl rings and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: OTAs are important, and that’s why the Chiefs have been

579
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Speaker 2: winning all these years. It’s not just what they do

580
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Speaker 2: in the season, it’s also what they’re doing in May

581
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Speaker 2: and June. Just some housekeeping if you’re curious when those begin.

582
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Speaker 2: The first round of OTAs will begin the week of

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Speaker 2: May twenty second. We’ll hear from coach Reid and Patrick

584
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Speaker 2: Mahomes and a few players for the first time during

585
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Speaker 2: OTAs on May twenty fourth. There’s three rounds of OTAs,

586
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Speaker 2: so it’ll be three weeks where they practice for like

587
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Speaker 2: three days each week, and then mandatory mini camp follows

588
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Speaker 2: that in mid June, and then before you know it,

589
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Speaker 2: we’ll be heading to Saint Joe for training camp at

590
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Speaker 2: some point in late July. But a lot of football

591
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Speaker 2: here on the horizon. It’s not quite the real thing,

592
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Speaker 2: but it’s close enough at least for us to get

593
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Speaker 2: excited about it.

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Speaker 3: We can nerd out a little bit and a couple

595
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Speaker 3: things here. Why these OTAs are important is the load

596
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Speaker 3: of information that coaches on both sides of the ball

597
00:29:01,920 –> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: and special teams put on these guys. One, it’s an

598
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Speaker 3: aptitude test. Two, they want it all pretty much in place.

599
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Speaker 3: By the time they hit Saint Joseph. They’re reviewing and

600
00:29:13,720 –> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: not installing, and that’s big. That and then the work habits.

601
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Speaker 3: If you’re a Kansas City chief and you enter the building,

602
00:29:21,720 –> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: this is how we work. This is how we practice,

603
00:29:24,440 –> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: this is how we recover, This is how we get

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Speaker 3: ready to do it all again the next day. And

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Speaker 3: that’s a giant part of OTA. So when they hit

606
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Speaker 3: Saint Joseph, that orientation period basically has already been done.

607
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Speaker 3: Now you talk about the NFL trying to stay in

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Speaker 3: the conscience of the American sports fan, one of these days,

609
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Speaker 3: won’t they figure out once the draft is over that

610
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Speaker 3: there will be the UDFA special Yes, and it’ll be

611
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Speaker 3: all these calls and find who will be the UDFA

612
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Speaker 3: signing with what team? The Chiefs have some good ones.

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Speaker 3: He’s Matt McMullan. I’m Mitchell OFPHUS And never underestimate the

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Speaker 3: U d F A T.

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Speaker 1: T touch down.

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Speaker 3: Losh it down and the celebration begin to then head