There’s More Than Meets the Eye and Ear | Defending The Kingdom 8/12

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Speaker 1: Thank you Dannage. On the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: in the game, they can play, Oh don’t do it?

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Speaker 1: What touchdown? Kansas City? The Chiefs all right in the

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Speaker 1: thick of a baby. Welcome once again, one and all

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Speaker 1: throughout the Chiefs Kingdom. It’s time for another edition of

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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom. Brotching by three sixty Vodka, official vodka

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Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chief’s Kingdom. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate those folks. Mitch Holters with you the Voice of

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, along with Matt mcmulland Chief’s Reporter. And I’ve

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Speaker 1: already received some tweets from folks that what they’re doing

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Speaker 1: when they listen or watch Defending the Kingdom. I got

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Speaker 1: one from the leader of the Irish Brigade. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he’s he is a Army veteran, full bird colonel, but

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Speaker 1: he loves defending the Kingdom. But he said, here’s what

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Speaker 1: I was doing. He’s riding his bike, had his helmet

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Speaker 1: on a long bike ride like our John Matthews. So

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Speaker 1: let us let us know what are you doing when

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Speaker 1: you’re listening to Defending the Kingdom. Maybe we don’t want

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Speaker 1: to know anyway, This edition of the Chiefs Kingdom deals

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Speaker 1: with preseason game number one against the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and we’re gonna title it. There’s more

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Speaker 1: than meets the eye and ear with preseason football, especially

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Speaker 1: this game, so let’s dive right into it. You and

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Speaker 1: I have both seen preseason football end careers. We have

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Speaker 1: both seen him enhanced careers. Sure, and I would say this.

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Speaker 1: I don’t think it’s an outlandish comment, Matt that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs probably wouldn’t have won Super Bowl fifty four had

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Speaker 1: it not been for preseason football, especially in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It’s a crazy thought, isn’t it. But every single year

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Speaker 1: we see guys elevate in the preseason, make this team,

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Speaker 1: and at some point make a play either that season

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Speaker 1: or later on down the roads. I think of the

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Speaker 1: guys that have made this team out of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: guys like Byron Pringle in twenty eighteen. He was injured

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Speaker 1: but still eventually made the team on I R and

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Speaker 1: then we’ve seen what he’s done in the year since.

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Speaker 1: But he blew up in a Green Bay game. He

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Speaker 1: did yet, and so it was like, wow, Okay, he’s legit.

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Speaker 1: You knew he had something and I think he got

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Speaker 1: hurt on that play, I think, but ended up making

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Speaker 1: year and made some huge plays later on for this team.

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Speaker 1: We’ve seen him do that. Ben Nieman in two and

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Speaker 1: eighteen made this team, remember the pick six against the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. And now he’s I mean a quasi starter

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Speaker 1: on this team. A lot of starts, a lot of

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Speaker 1: big place for him over the course of his career

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Speaker 1: here in Kansas City. Darrell Williams in twenty and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I think how big Darrell’s been on this team over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I mean, he’s been kind

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Speaker 1: of the steady force in that tailback room and other

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Speaker 1: guys have been injured. I mean, Darrell’s been hurt a

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Speaker 1: few times, but still Darrell’s always the guy you can

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Speaker 1: count on. One of my favorite stats have been up

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Speaker 1: putting out there recently is the Chiefs four different times

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Speaker 1: last year put the ball in Darrell’s hands on fourth

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Speaker 1: yards and scrimmage and a touchdown. So you find that

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Speaker 1: guy in the preseason. And lastly, Andrew Wiley forget about him,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn’t a name. No one knew who Andrew

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Speaker 1: Wiley was way back in twenty seventeen. He made this

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Speaker 1: team out of camp because of what he did out

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Speaker 1: here on the field and in the preseason. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: basically just bounced around practice squads exactly. Yeah, And this

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Speaker 1: is finally your chance to go out there and show

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Speaker 1: team when we’ve seen it time and time again. Guys

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Speaker 1: that everyone knows now are just part of the team

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Speaker 1: they started in the preseason, and we’ll see who it

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Speaker 1: is this year. And I love that you mentioned those

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Speaker 1: guys in specific. Let’s just take Pringle and Nieman in

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, like, why are you talking about

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Speaker 1: preseason football and Super Bowl fifty four. Nieman and Pringle

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Speaker 1: then I apologize to the Chiefs Kingdom for all of

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Speaker 1: these years. In Super Bowl fifty four and all of

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Speaker 1: the months on the road Runday Immortality by Damian Williams,

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Speaker 1: I talk about sausages block that would not be a

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Speaker 1: touchdown had it not been for Buyer and Pringle taken

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco corner and running him into the Atlantic Ocean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so again, it’s the preseason football pay attention,

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Speaker 1: like who were the who’s gonna shine in this game

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Speaker 1: that’s the thing that’s awesome about you is super Bowl

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Speaker 1: years ago, and he’s still going back and watching these

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Speaker 1: plays and realizing this guy made a play right here.

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Speaker 1: I remember, like two days ago you brought that up

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Speaker 1: to me. And that’s what I think it’s so awesome

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Speaker 1: back at film, and yeah, he definitely deserves credit for that.

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Speaker 1: But you’re right, who’s going to elevate this year? And

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Speaker 1: it’s a big difference between doing it in practice and

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Speaker 1: just the preseason doesn’t count, but it’s still live football

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Speaker 1: against another team that doesn’t know what you’re doing, and

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Speaker 1: that you belong. And I asked Tyrn a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: not in the first half, in the second half, the

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Speaker 1: the world knows who you are. And that’s all you

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Speaker 1: these guys on Saturday night. I thought it was great

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Speaker 1: what’s going on? Our guys coach the young guys. Tyrn

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Speaker 1: Matthew will coach the young guys on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he’s not the only one. And just it’s something

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Speaker 1: I know that you’ll talk about on your sideline debut

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Speaker 1: of course I’m excited to have our radio broadcast too.

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Speaker 1: There’s more to this game than meets the eye or

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Speaker 1: the ear. That’s what we’re saying. You don’t have to

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Speaker 1: this is where winning teams are made. All right, Let’s

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Speaker 1: jump into probably the biggest area that the Chief’s Kingdom

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can essentially have three rookies that will

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Speaker 1: defensive front. They’re not going to play all their guys,

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Speaker 1: but they’re they’re deep. Okay, Now, what about the intrigue

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Speaker 1: know what they can do in practice. We’ve seen it.

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Speaker 1: We’ve seen all of those players grow throughout practice, which

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Speaker 1: But now it’s about can you do that in a game?

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Speaker 1: for guys like Orlando Brown Junior. It’s about the cohesion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that’s been the story of the offseason, right.

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Speaker 1: you’re playing in front of Patrick Mahomes, how can you

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Speaker 1: Things like that, And that’s what it’s really all about

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Speaker 1: how can you figure out how things are going to

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Speaker 1: There’s gonna be mistakes early on. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: was just talking about. I’ve heard communication a lot the

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Speaker 1: people are excited about these young offensive linemen, but it

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Speaker 1: there’s four guys. Let’s put the injured guys up on

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Speaker 1: the shelf, all right, Mike Rammers, LT’s out four to

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Speaker 1: six weeks. Long’s up there. Okay, Now, four guys, Nick Elligready,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wiley. Of that group, they have combined to play

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Speaker 1: one hundred forty six games in the league with ninety

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Speaker 1: six starts, and three of the four have started Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls and they’re the backup. Yeah, they have combined for

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Speaker 1: six thousand, eight hundred and fifty two snaps. But it’s

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Speaker 1: like I’ve been on the varsitat, but you’re going to

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Speaker 1: it’s interesting how they will perform and how they will

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Speaker 1: respond because I’m not sure you can keep all these guys.

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Speaker 1: You’re only going to keep nine offensive lineman at the most. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: And it’s because injuries happen. They’re inevitable. They’re going to

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Speaker 1: But you’re going to have things happen over the course

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Speaker 1: Now they study harder, they’re more prepared, and then if

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Speaker 1: more seamlessly. Well. Having a guy like Tyron Matthew in

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Speaker 1: a STV room certainly helps with that as well on

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Speaker 1: guys constantly in practice, yelling guys, keeping an energy level up.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, though, I want to ask about

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Speaker 1: corner and to have that versatility in those defensive packages,

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Speaker 1: you have to have corners that are willing tacklers. And

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Speaker 1: we’ve seen that over the years here in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: guys like Bashad Breland, Trevarius a Ward currently on this

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Speaker 1: team with willing tackler. How important is having a willing

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Speaker 1: tackler at corner and when you want to play these

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Speaker 1: different kinds of defensive looks. It is beyond important because

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Speaker 1: as much as the game is about throwing it down fields,

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Speaker 1: and that’s what we talk about in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: that’s why Patrick Mahomes is a star because he does

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Speaker 1: it so well. Also, the ability to run the football,

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Speaker 1: control the clock, beat some people up, and you’re gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go against that. So having co owners who

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Speaker 1: are willing tacklers. Think about your own division. All right,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to come at you with Josh

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Speaker 1: Jacobs and now Kenyan Drake is there. You’re going to

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Speaker 1: look at Denver. They just they just invested in a

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Speaker 1: second round pick in Javonte Williams out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is already there. Look at the top contenders

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. Cleveland runs the heck out of the football. Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know Derrick Henry is coming. So when

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Speaker 1: you look at it in total, you have to have

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Speaker 1: those corners. They can’t just go out there and run

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Speaker 1: down field with people. If they’re willing to tackle them,

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Speaker 1: be the first line of defense on the corner and

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Speaker 1: on the perimeter. That just makes your defense out much

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Speaker 1: more stout worst case. You can still see that, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if I do, I’m gonna call some people their jobs.

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Speaker 1: Not a coach out there’s funny I talk with coach

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Speaker 1: of David Merritt the but he go, come on, give

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Speaker 1: me a couple of reps of the coach. I’ll get

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Speaker 1: you fired. He said that, kids, you stay right over there.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Arles, you take care. Love that interview. Love him.

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Speaker 1: But he talked about positionless football. I see it more

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Speaker 1: and more, not only out here, but throughout the league.

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Speaker 1: We just we gotta be reluctant to pigeonhole guys into

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Speaker 1: this guy’s a d or linebacker, safety or corner. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it’s all blended together like a really nice stew I

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Speaker 1: keep putting my hands on here, and I burned my

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Speaker 1: hands every time it so I keep pulling him up.

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Speaker 1: But you’re one hundred percent Right’s positionist football, and it’s

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Speaker 1: a It’s a beautiful thing with this defense because Steve

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Speaker 1: Spagnolo can, like we talked about in the interview, truly

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Speaker 1: take advantage of the versatile nature of this group because

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Speaker 1: they can play so many different positions. Think of all

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Speaker 1: the different things Tyrn Matthew does for example, he plays

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Speaker 1: in the slot, he can play free safety, he can

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Speaker 1: play in the box, play in the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: He can play outside corner if you need him to.

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Speaker 1: Lagerius Sneed is the same way he played safety his

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Speaker 1: senior year at college just because Louisiana Tech needed him

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Speaker 1: to play safety, and then no big deal. He can

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Speaker 1: come in this year after a great rookie year last

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Speaker 1: year and not just play outside corner, but also slot

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Speaker 1: corner in a nickel. So when you have guys that

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Speaker 1: can do a whole bunch of different things, it just

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Speaker 1: opens up what you can do in your toolbox if

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Speaker 1: you’re Steve Spagnolo, and really, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: this group is athletic. That’s what they are. They are athletic.

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Speaker 1: They are athletes, and it’s defensive back room and they

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Speaker 1: can do a ton of different things for you. And

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Speaker 1: that’s just not the case or on the league. We’re

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Speaker 1: kind of spoiled with it. And we’re going to close

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Speaker 1: this way and talk about the corner store. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it. The corner store. You gotta have it,

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Speaker 1: whether you know you just gotta run and get bread

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Speaker 1: and milk or whatever. You gotta run there and quickly

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Speaker 1: and get it done. So the corner store here to

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Speaker 1: me in this game, why this game is more than

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Speaker 1: meets the eye in air, and why you just can’t

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Speaker 1: just oh, gush, it’s preseason football. Let me know when

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Speaker 1: I can play fantasy football. Now. You need to pay

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Speaker 1: attention to this game because there’s four corners that I

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Speaker 1: have under my eye, and that is when you look

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Speaker 1: at Mike Hughes, who right now is a starting corner,

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Speaker 1: and when the Chiefs are and Nickel, you look at

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Speaker 1: Rashad Fenton who’s been good for this team, DeAndre Baker,

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Speaker 1: and then also Bopee Keys who went up the hill

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Speaker 1: and injured on Thursday, so I’m not sure his status

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Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday data field play. And then I

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Speaker 1: got named Devin Key, who kind of fits what we’re

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Speaker 1: talking about, like what is he? He’s out there and

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Speaker 1: he where’s number twenty four? But these are all guys

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Speaker 1: to watch to me on Saturday night because it becomes

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Speaker 1: very important as it perchanged to the twenty twenty one season. Sure,

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Speaker 1: and what a Brett Beach special the duo of Mike

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Speaker 1: Cues and DeAndre Baker is because you have two guys

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Speaker 1: each of which was taken with a number thirty overall

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Speaker 1: pick in twenty eighteen and in twenty nineteen. These are

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Speaker 1: two players that have played before, they’ve shown that they

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Speaker 1: could play at this level. They were highly tied of

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Speaker 1: prospects for a reason. And in the case of Hughes,

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Speaker 1: here’s a guy who was really good in Minnesota, just injuries.

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Speaker 1: He couldn’t stay healthy on the field. It was freak injuries,

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Speaker 1: things with his neck and also at torn acl And

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Speaker 1: now he has a fresh start here in Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and since OTAs we’ve been watching him wondering how does

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Speaker 1: he kind of mix into things, because the Chiefs traded

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Speaker 1: for him in the spring and he’s looked pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw some plays today. Made a great

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Speaker 1: play in coverage against Tyreek Hill in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: It was a red zone route that Tyreek makes look

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Speaker 1: easy on a regular basis, and Hughes stayed with him,

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Speaker 1: made a play on the ball, had an interception later

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Speaker 1: on in seven on seven as well. So I’ll be

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Speaker 1: watching Mike Cues in the preseason and you want to

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Speaker 1: see what happens when he’s actually out there on the

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Speaker 1: field in a live game. And also Rashad Finn what

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Speaker 1: can he show now entering this year with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: He’s had limited snaps during his career, but when he’s

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Speaker 1: been out there, he’s been really good. He’s shown that

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Speaker 1: he can play on this team. So it’s a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity for these guys. If you’re looking at the nickel package,

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Speaker 1: who can be that other outside corner like you mentioned

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Speaker 1: opposite Trevarius Ward. You have Lagarius Need in the slot,

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Speaker 1: probably the best slot corner in football this year if

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Speaker 1: we’re being honest. Trevarious Ward incredible to say this, but

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Speaker 1: he has the most experience of all the corners in

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Speaker 1: this room. So who can be that other guy? And

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Speaker 1: that’s what this preseason will be all about. And right

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Speaker 1: now Mike Hughes might have the inside track at that

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Speaker 1: looking really good, but the preseason will tell the story

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Speaker 1: of that later on. Rashad Fenton’s kind of your ben

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Speaker 1: niem into that cornerback room. Yeah, all right, as we close,

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Speaker 1: I don’t know if you guys are gamers or you

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Speaker 1: want to design video games, you can design a new

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Speaker 1: video game called Surviving Defending the Kingdom on a table

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Speaker 1: surface that is two hundred and seventy five degrees. What

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Speaker 1: a great video game. It’ll be touch, touch, It’ll be great.

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Speaker 1: He’s Matt McMullin again. Let us know how you listen

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Speaker 1: or watch Defending the Kingdom and how you can survive

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Speaker 1: you know this heat. Anyway, we look forward to this

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Speaker 1: game on Saturday night. There is more than meets the

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Speaker 1: eye or ear play attention to this game. It may

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Speaker 1: be more important than you think. Toss down, walt it down,

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Speaker 1: and the celebration begins to their head