Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Senior Team Reporter Matt McMullen break down the upcoming 2026 NFL Draft of the latest episode of Defending the Kingdom.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00:00,200 –> 00:00:04,399
Speaker 1: It’s back since the beginning of time in music, poetry,
2
00:00:05,080 –> 00:00:08,720
Speaker 1: I don’t know theater Shakespeare. Do you like them or
3
00:00:08,720 –> 00:00:11,520
Speaker 1: do you love them? It’s time for the twenty twenty
4
00:00:11,520 –> 00:00:14,640
Speaker 1: six NFL Draft, and in this episode of Defending.
5
00:00:14,320 –> 00:00:17,000
Speaker 2: The Kingdom, we’ll talk about liking them and when you.
6
00:00:16,960 –> 00:00:20,040
Speaker 1: Can love them. It’s all brought to you by Ticketmaster,
7
00:00:20,200 –> 00:00:22,880
Speaker 1: your new best friend. There is so many great things
8
00:00:22,880 –> 00:00:24,680
Speaker 1: going on in the Chiefs Kingdom that you can use
9
00:00:24,720 –> 00:00:28,040
Speaker 1: Ticketmaster for, including the twenty twenty six season. When the
10
00:00:28,080 –> 00:00:30,800
Speaker 1: schedule comes out, the homes in the pocket will step up.
11
00:00:30,800 –> 00:00:37,600
Speaker 1: You’ll scrabble ten for bags diving touchdown Chansas City, everyone.
12
00:00:37,640 –> 00:00:39,880
Speaker 1: I’m Mitchelter’s voice of the Chiefs along with senior team
13
00:00:39,880 –> 00:00:43,560
Speaker 1: reporter Matt McMullen. We’ve changed our location today. We’re at
14
00:00:43,560 –> 00:00:47,479
Speaker 1: the press conference room, the presser room in the University
15
00:00:47,479 –> 00:00:51,520
Speaker 1: of Kansas Health System Practice facility. So this is where
16
00:00:52,000 –> 00:00:53,760
Speaker 1: this is where they make the sausage right in here.
17
00:00:53,840 –> 00:00:55,120
Speaker 1: This is where the woodburns.
18
00:00:55,320 –> 00:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about this. I think the last
19
00:00:57,880 –> 00:01:01,200
Speaker 2: time we did an episode in this was the first
20
00:01:01,240 –> 00:01:04,319
Speaker 2: episode after losing the title game to the Bengals in
21
00:01:04,440 –> 00:01:07,160
Speaker 2: twenty one. So we had some good luck after doing
22
00:01:07,160 –> 00:01:09,160
Speaker 2: an episode in here, won two straight Super Bowls and
23
00:01:09,200 –> 00:01:10,000
Speaker 2: went to three in a row.
24
00:01:10,080 –> 00:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Let’s do that again, positive way of looking
25
00:01:12,200 –> 00:01:13,760
Speaker 1: at it, because I think that’s why I blocked it
26
00:01:13,800 –> 00:01:15,720
Speaker 1: out of my mind. Yep, yep, yeah, I could still
27
00:01:15,760 –> 00:01:17,679
Speaker 1: see some I JP run on the forty one yard
28
00:01:17,720 –> 00:01:21,200
Speaker 1: screen pass, so yeah, or not making it before the
29
00:01:21,280 –> 00:01:24,440
Speaker 1: end of the half and getting up two scores perhaps Anyway,
30
00:01:25,240 –> 00:01:28,280
Speaker 1: that’s neither here nor there. What is here? Like them?
31
00:01:28,560 –> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 1: Love them? We’ll get into all that. Here is Matt
32
00:01:31,440 –> 00:01:34,280
Speaker 1: and I look at the twenty twenty six NFL Draft.
33
00:01:34,600 –> 00:01:36,840
Speaker 1: But before we do that, it’s a tradition. Let’s go
34
00:01:36,880 –> 00:01:39,440
Speaker 1: around the world. It got two for you today? Perfect?
35
00:01:39,560 –> 00:01:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we Taekwon Thornton consistently had two for several.
36
00:01:42,800 –> 00:01:45,880
Speaker 1: Weeks, means an eleven hundred yards season for Taekwon Thornton
37
00:01:45,920 –> 00:01:46,840
Speaker 1: in about eight touchdown.
38
00:01:46,880 –> 00:01:49,120
Speaker 2: Sign me up. Shout out to Mason.
39
00:01:49,280 –> 00:01:49,360
Speaker 1: So.
40
00:01:49,480 –> 00:01:51,600
Speaker 2: I was at the grocery store last week and met
41
00:01:51,600 –> 00:01:54,280
Speaker 2: Mason in the parking lot. Crazy They’re putting some groceries away,
42
00:01:54,280 –> 00:01:55,840
Speaker 2: and Mason came up and said Hi, So shout out
43
00:01:55,840 –> 00:01:58,040
Speaker 2: to you, Mason. Thanks for saying Hi, he wasn’t stalking you.
44
00:01:58,040 –> 00:01:58,120
Speaker 1: No.
45
00:01:58,240 –> 00:02:00,720
Speaker 2: It always helps because I think Ellie just thinks I
46
00:02:01,200 –> 00:02:03,520
Speaker 2: don’t actually have a job, you know, but when people
47
00:02:03,520 –> 00:02:04,960
Speaker 2: see me in the parking lot and she’s like, oh,
48
00:02:05,000 –> 00:02:06,760
Speaker 2: they actually you know, pay attention to the stuff that
49
00:02:06,800 –> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 2: you do. I appreciate you, Mason.
50
00:02:07,920 –> 00:02:08,280
Speaker 1: Thanks you.
51
00:02:08,720 –> 00:02:10,080
Speaker 2: The street cred with my wife.
52
00:02:09,840 –> 00:02:12,079
Speaker 1: Not your wife is awesome. But she also realizes you’re
53
00:02:12,200 –> 00:02:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of deal.
54
00:02:13,440 –> 00:02:16,560
Speaker 2: No, I think it’s the opposite. Actually, also shout out
55
00:02:16,600 –> 00:02:18,480
Speaker 2: to Doran. So I’ve met him a few times up
56
00:02:18,480 –> 00:02:21,120
Speaker 2: a training camp over the years. Kind of a small world.
57
00:02:21,240 –> 00:02:25,760
Speaker 2: So Doran’s wife is good friends with my wife’s best friend,
58
00:02:26,120 –> 00:02:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, Sierra from South Dakota. Yeah, so when Sierra
59
00:02:30,520 –> 00:02:32,440
Speaker 2: lived here, she got to know Doran’s wife. And then
60
00:02:32,480 –> 00:02:35,240
Speaker 2: when I met Doron at training camp, he said, explain
61
00:02:35,280 –> 00:02:38,800
Speaker 2: this whole connection. Anyway, long story short, and not Deron Sherry,
62
00:02:38,840 –> 00:02:41,480
Speaker 2: but I bet he was named for him, honestly. So
63
00:02:41,639 –> 00:02:44,600
Speaker 2: he’s a huge Chiefs fan. Anyway, I saw Doran at
64
00:02:44,600 –> 00:02:47,040
Speaker 2: the Royals game a few weeks ago, and what I
65
00:02:47,040 –> 00:02:49,120
Speaker 2: love about Dorn is We’re at the Royals game and
66
00:02:49,120 –> 00:02:50,280
Speaker 2: he’s decked out in Chiefs gear.
67
00:02:50,440 –> 00:02:51,000
Speaker 1: So love it.
68
00:02:51,000 –> 00:02:52,919
Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Deron, good seeing you again.
69
00:02:52,800 –> 00:02:54,520
Speaker 1: And both of these around the world. I actually go
70
00:02:54,600 –> 00:02:56,359
Speaker 1: back to your wife Elly in some way there’s.
71
00:02:56,240 –> 00:02:58,800
Speaker 2: A connection that Ellie is the connection. Yes, yeah, shout
72
00:02:58,800 –> 00:02:59,480
Speaker 2: out to Ellie.
73
00:03:00,120 –> 00:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Shout out to her. She’s amazing actually what she does
74
00:03:02,919 –> 00:03:06,520
Speaker 1: for our community, especially with the incredible Kansas City Zoo.
75
00:03:06,960 –> 00:03:10,000
Speaker 1: We kid about La, but she’s she’s big time.
76
00:03:10,120 –> 00:03:11,840
Speaker 2: Go to the zoo, go to the aquarium.
77
00:03:12,080 –> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 1: It’s yeah, okay, you and I have been We’ve had
78
00:03:16,000 –> 00:03:18,520
Speaker 1: a little more time to work on the draft this year. Yeah,
79
00:03:18,639 –> 00:03:20,799
Speaker 1: not getting deep into the playoffs, so that meant our
80
00:03:21,080 –> 00:03:24,519
Speaker 1: off season began earlier than usual. It’s been an interesting draft.
81
00:03:24,520 –> 00:03:26,720
Speaker 1: You and I have done the deep dive. We’ve swam
82
00:03:26,760 –> 00:03:29,000
Speaker 1: a couple laps in the pool, got out and dove
83
00:03:29,080 –> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 1: back in again. On this episode, though, and here’s the
84
00:03:33,160 –> 00:03:36,280
Speaker 1: surgeon General’s warning, we’re going to give you some names
85
00:03:36,600 –> 00:03:40,680
Speaker 1: that Matt and I like. Not necessarily, there’s some household
86
00:03:40,720 –> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 1: names here that you’ve heard over and over and over
87
00:03:42,480 –> 00:03:46,800
Speaker 1: if you’re not even just a draft freak. But the
88
00:03:46,840 –> 00:03:48,680
Speaker 1: caution here is because you’ve been in the league long
89
00:03:48,760 –> 00:03:52,200
Speaker 1: enough and it’s only my thirty third year. You like
90
00:03:52,320 –> 00:03:56,480
Speaker 1: these players, but you don’t fall in love with them
91
00:03:56,880 –> 00:04:00,840
Speaker 1: because think of the percentage is that they would become
92
00:04:00,840 –> 00:04:04,320
Speaker 1: a Kansas City Chief. We like these guys, but we’ll
93
00:04:04,400 –> 00:04:06,360
Speaker 1: really love them when they become a Chief. If they
94
00:04:06,400 –> 00:04:07,040
Speaker 1: become a Chief.
95
00:04:07,600 –> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 2: So setting the stage for this whole episode in the
96
00:04:09,920 –> 00:04:11,680
Speaker 2: draft coming up, can I hit you with a number
97
00:04:11,720 –> 00:04:15,080
Speaker 2: that I found pretty impressive? So this is via Josh
98
00:04:15,160 –> 00:04:19,080
Speaker 2: Dunbo with the AP. So, the twenty twenty two draft
99
00:04:19,080 –> 00:04:22,520
Speaker 2: class for the Chiefs played twenty four thousand, one and
100
00:04:22,560 –> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 2: forty one total snaps in the regular season and the
101
00:04:25,279 –> 00:04:29,320
Speaker 2: playoffs during their four year stretch. Here, most by any
102
00:04:29,320 –> 00:04:31,800
Speaker 2: team’s draft class in their first four seasons since at
103
00:04:31,880 –> 00:04:34,080
Speaker 2: least two thousand and six, and more than one thousand
104
00:04:34,080 –> 00:04:36,560
Speaker 2: snaps ahead of the next closest team. I bet it’s
105
00:04:36,839 –> 00:04:39,440
Speaker 2: one of the most the highest numbers in league history.
106
00:04:39,440 –> 00:04:41,440
Speaker 2: They just don’t have the data going far back enough.
107
00:04:41,600 –> 00:04:43,200
Speaker 2: But think about that. I mean, we talk about it
108
00:04:43,200 –> 00:04:46,359
Speaker 2: all the time, how transformative the twenty twenty two class was.
109
00:04:46,520 –> 00:04:49,279
Speaker 2: We need that again right now. And I mentioned how
110
00:04:49,320 –> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 2: the last time we shot this episode was after that
111
00:04:51,720 –> 00:04:54,479
Speaker 2: brutal loss to the Bengals. But we turned things around. Well,
112
00:04:54,520 –> 00:04:56,800
Speaker 2: one of the primary reasons we turn things around was
113
00:04:56,839 –> 00:04:59,400
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two draft class. Well, we have a
114
00:04:59,480 –> 00:05:01,200
Speaker 2: chance to do that again. We got to hit on
115
00:05:01,240 –> 00:05:03,480
Speaker 2: these picks though, I mean, having nine picks we have,
116
00:05:03,640 –> 00:05:05,840
Speaker 2: let me see year one, two, three, four, four picks
117
00:05:05,839 –> 00:05:08,680
Speaker 2: in the top one hundred, I mean, a big opportunity
118
00:05:08,880 –> 00:05:11,120
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs and fortunately a lot of players that
119
00:05:11,160 –> 00:05:13,240
Speaker 2: we like a lot, but yeah, don’t don’t love them yet,
120
00:05:13,240 –> 00:05:15,039
Speaker 2: but hopefully we love some of these guys pretty soon.
121
00:05:15,200 –> 00:05:19,200
Speaker 1: In fact, here’s your code for your next If you’ve
122
00:05:19,200 –> 00:05:22,720
Speaker 1: got like a lock that you can just set it up.
123
00:05:22,760 –> 00:05:26,960
Speaker 1: So right nine left, twenty nine, right forty left seventy
124
00:05:27,000 –> 00:05:29,560
Speaker 1: four right one oh nine, left one forty eight, right
125
00:05:29,560 –> 00:05:33,120
Speaker 1: one sixty nine left two ten oh slip one sixty
126
00:05:33,120 –> 00:05:35,960
Speaker 1: five in there a compensation pick in the fifth round.
127
00:05:36,400 –> 00:05:39,400
Speaker 1: But to your point, and we mentioned this, to have
128
00:05:39,680 –> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 1: four picks in the top seventy five is crazy. Yeah,
129
00:05:42,920 –> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 1: And then you look that if you stay where you’re
130
00:05:45,200 –> 00:05:46,960
Speaker 1: and you know that Beach is going to be trading,
131
00:05:47,040 –> 00:05:50,080
Speaker 1: he just is, you still got five more picks, all
132
00:05:50,120 –> 00:05:55,599
Speaker 1: before the start of the seventh round. So yeah, you
133
00:05:55,640 –> 00:05:58,160
Speaker 1: look at great drafts the nineteen sixty three draft, if
134
00:05:58,200 –> 00:05:59,880
Speaker 1: you want to go back into the ancient of days,
135
00:06:00,279 –> 00:06:02,320
Speaker 1: actually set up the run that led to the Super
136
00:06:02,320 –> 00:06:05,440
Speaker 1: Bowl four title and the incredible class of twenty twenty two.
137
00:06:05,600 –> 00:06:07,120
Speaker 1: You and I’ve talked about him over and over and
138
00:06:07,120 –> 00:06:09,479
Speaker 1: over again, and I love those stats because they just
139
00:06:09,560 –> 00:06:13,400
Speaker 1: verify what we’ve said in many ways from a completeness.
140
00:06:13,839 –> 00:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Maybe the best draft class in Chiefs history, and I
141
00:06:16,080 –> 00:06:18,880
Speaker 1: think that can be defended. But now you got to
142
00:06:18,920 –> 00:06:22,120
Speaker 1: try to replicate it because those guys have all kind
143
00:06:22,120 –> 00:06:24,480
Speaker 1: of splintered, and most of them other than George Carlotus
144
00:06:24,520 –> 00:06:26,880
Speaker 1: and it’s like nausey still here, but everybody’s got to
145
00:06:26,920 –> 00:06:29,599
Speaker 1: move on all around. But the point is if you
146
00:06:29,600 –> 00:06:32,679
Speaker 1: can try to replicate or get close with these nine picks,
147
00:06:32,680 –> 00:06:35,440
Speaker 1: if you stay put, you can set yourself up for
148
00:06:35,480 –> 00:06:36,080
Speaker 1: another run.
149
00:06:36,440 –> 00:06:38,400
Speaker 2: And really, I think a theme in the twenty twenty
150
00:06:38,440 –> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 2: two class was the best player available mantra. So think
151
00:06:41,680 –> 00:06:43,839
Speaker 2: about how that all played out. We’ve talked about it before.
152
00:06:44,160 –> 00:06:47,320
Speaker 2: Trading up for Trent McDuffie was interesting because going into
153
00:06:47,360 –> 00:06:49,240
Speaker 2: the draft, were you thinking we got to get a
154
00:06:49,279 –> 00:06:51,480
Speaker 2: corner in the first round, Like that’s an obvious thing
155
00:06:51,480 –> 00:06:53,400
Speaker 2: we got to do. I don’t think so. I think
156
00:06:53,440 –> 00:06:55,719
Speaker 2: it was a matter of a really good player falling
157
00:06:55,760 –> 00:06:58,160
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs found a spot for him. A similar
158
00:06:58,200 –> 00:07:00,080
Speaker 2: deal if you look at later in the draft they
159
00:07:00,080 –> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 2: take Joshua Williams in the fourth round. Well, even though
160
00:07:02,400 –> 00:07:04,600
Speaker 2: they took two corners earlier, didn’t stop him from taking
161
00:07:04,680 –> 00:07:06,599
Speaker 2: Jalen Watson in the seventh round. He was the top
162
00:07:06,640 –> 00:07:09,800
Speaker 2: player on their board. Leo Chanel on the third round.
163
00:07:09,880 –> 00:07:12,120
Speaker 2: I don’t think linebacker was a crazy need for the
164
00:07:12,160 –> 00:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs at that point, but they said, Hey, this is
165
00:07:14,080 –> 00:07:15,760
Speaker 2: our top player on the board. We’re going to take
166
00:07:15,800 –> 00:07:17,800
Speaker 2: this guy, find a role for him. And think about
167
00:07:17,800 –> 00:07:19,600
Speaker 2: all those players I mentioned, they all found a way
168
00:07:19,640 –> 00:07:22,160
Speaker 2: to impact this team and help this team win super Bowls,
169
00:07:22,320 –> 00:07:24,960
Speaker 2: even if it wasn’t like an obvious, Hey we’re drafting
170
00:07:25,000 –> 00:07:27,840
Speaker 2: for need right now. So the Chiefs do a good
171
00:07:27,920 –> 00:07:30,480
Speaker 2: job of that about really taking the best player available.
172
00:07:30,600 –> 00:07:32,880
Speaker 2: Did an amazing job of it in twenty twenty two.
173
00:07:33,120 –> 00:07:35,160
Speaker 2: And I think the way that we’ve used free agency
174
00:07:35,200 –> 00:07:37,760
Speaker 2: this offseason, as we’ve put ourselves in a position to
175
00:07:37,800 –> 00:07:41,400
Speaker 2: truly go after the best players available. And it’s funny.
176
00:07:41,400 –> 00:07:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at mock drafts, you look at
177
00:07:42,960 –> 00:07:46,960
Speaker 2: projections and the experts are trying to marry the need
178
00:07:47,280 –> 00:07:50,480
Speaker 2: with the best player available. Not always the case. I mean,
179
00:07:50,520 –> 00:07:52,440
Speaker 2: we might end up with some players that we don’t
180
00:07:52,440 –> 00:07:55,280
Speaker 2: even talk about today, but four years from now, hopefully
181
00:07:55,280 –> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 2: we’re looking back and saying, that guy helped us win
182
00:07:57,040 –> 00:07:57,640
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl.
183
00:07:58,200 –> 00:08:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. The remarkable stat of the twenty two class is
184
00:08:01,240 –> 00:08:03,000
Speaker 1: the fact that those guys are nine and one in
185
00:08:03,040 –> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They lost one.
186
00:08:04,760 –> 00:08:06,440
Speaker 2: Playoff game and it was the Super Bowl.
187
00:08:06,440 –> 00:08:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and so incredible group. We’ll asue him
188
00:08:09,960 –> 00:08:12,920
Speaker 1: at reunions, hug them, shed some tears and laughter, and
189
00:08:13,320 –> 00:08:16,400
Speaker 1: wish them the best. But here we are in the present,
190
00:08:16,480 –> 00:08:19,120
Speaker 1: and we push on and let’s go in. We’re gonna
191
00:08:19,120 –> 00:08:21,960
Speaker 1: look at six different categories. We can’t sit here and
192
00:08:22,000 –> 00:08:24,800
Speaker 1: do a five hour draft show, though we could could be.
193
00:08:24,920 –> 00:08:26,920
Speaker 1: We could, and it’d be fun. But we’re gonna look
194
00:08:26,920 –> 00:08:29,760
Speaker 1: at six different categories of players and just pick the
195
00:08:29,800 –> 00:08:33,720
Speaker 1: guy that maybe intrigues us a lot, not the most.
196
00:08:34,280 –> 00:08:36,800
Speaker 1: And some of these will be household names that you followed,
197
00:08:36,880 –> 00:08:41,079
Speaker 1: some will not, But I think there’s interest in each
198
00:08:41,120 –> 00:08:43,360
Speaker 1: one of these and have their own individual stories. So
199
00:08:43,400 –> 00:08:45,840
Speaker 1: I’ll start. We’re gonna look at safety, but I’m gonna
200
00:08:45,840 –> 00:08:48,520
Speaker 1: start with Caleb Downs. And people are going, oh, no brainer,
201
00:08:48,600 –> 00:08:51,320
Speaker 1: like nice, you know, way to go cat than obvious.
202
00:08:52,400 –> 00:08:54,839
Speaker 1: But here’s what’s not so obvious. I think all of
203
00:08:54,880 –> 00:08:58,280
Speaker 1: the Ohio State guys are miscast of the main guys
204
00:08:58,960 –> 00:09:02,400
Speaker 1: in Northern card Tate. He’s a wide receiver. But when
205
00:09:02,400 –> 00:09:04,600
Speaker 1: you look at Downs, and we mentioned this a little
206
00:09:04,600 –> 00:09:07,200
Speaker 1: bit ago, I think, or a couple episodes ago, he’s
207
00:09:07,240 –> 00:09:09,680
Speaker 1: listed as a safety. To me when I review the video,
208
00:09:10,120 –> 00:09:13,480
Speaker 1: which is very, very impressive, he’s a slot corner. He
209
00:09:13,520 –> 00:09:16,760
Speaker 1: can play safety, but he’s a slot corner. And the
210
00:09:16,840 –> 00:09:19,240
Speaker 1: fact that when he led Alabama me we started at
211
00:09:19,280 –> 00:09:22,000
Speaker 1: Alabama before he went to Ohio State at Caleb Downs,
212
00:09:22,040 –> 00:09:24,960
Speaker 1: he led Alabama in tackles. That was the first freshman
213
00:09:25,000 –> 00:09:28,920
Speaker 1: to lead Alabama in tackles ever. So that’s the player
214
00:09:29,000 –> 00:09:31,439
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs is. And you look at two hunred and
215
00:09:31,480 –> 00:09:34,280
Speaker 1: fifty seven career tackles, he would fit. He would be
216
00:09:34,360 –> 00:09:37,839
Speaker 1: an incredible scheme fit, and he would be also an
217
00:09:37,840 –> 00:09:42,160
Speaker 1: incredible replacement for Trent McDuffie because I get the sense
218
00:09:42,240 –> 00:09:46,360
Speaker 1: wherever he lands, Caleb Downs, he will be a phenomenal
219
00:09:46,400 –> 00:09:47,880
Speaker 1: slot corner to me.
220
00:09:48,679 –> 00:09:50,640
Speaker 2: So first of all, Caleb Downs is my favorite player
221
00:09:50,679 –> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 2: in this draft. I think he’s awesome. I think he’s
222
00:09:53,520 –> 00:09:55,160
Speaker 2: the kind of player that could come in on Day
223
00:09:55,200 –> 00:09:58,680
Speaker 2: one and be a piece of your defense, like right
224
00:09:58,679 –> 00:10:01,680
Speaker 2: away because of his very satility. He can play the slot,
225
00:10:01,720 –> 00:10:04,640
Speaker 2: which if you look at modern NFL offenses, some of
226
00:10:04,679 –> 00:10:07,559
Speaker 2: the best receivers on the opposing team are playing out
227
00:10:07,559 –> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 2: of the slot now, and some of the best defenses
228
00:10:10,240 –> 00:10:12,160
Speaker 2: in the league they have that jack of all trades
229
00:10:12,240 –> 00:10:13,920
Speaker 2: kind of safety that can go in there and do
230
00:10:13,960 –> 00:10:16,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. Cover the slot, blitz off
231
00:10:16,160 –> 00:10:18,240
Speaker 2: the edge, play deep if need be, be that extra
232
00:10:18,280 –> 00:10:20,839
Speaker 2: linebacker if they need to be, play the run, all
233
00:10:20,880 –> 00:10:23,200
Speaker 2: that stuff. Kiala Downs can do all of those things,
234
00:10:23,280 –> 00:10:26,040
Speaker 2: and man, if we got him at number nine, I
235
00:10:26,040 –> 00:10:28,280
Speaker 2: think that’d be a total steal. I’ll give you one
236
00:10:28,280 –> 00:10:30,760
Speaker 2: more though at safety. Not sure if this is a
237
00:10:30,840 –> 00:10:33,760
Speaker 2: late first rounder early second rounder. Probably trending more tour
238
00:10:34,120 –> 00:10:37,240
Speaker 2: to being a late first rounder, but it’s Emmanuel McNeil
239
00:10:37,280 –> 00:10:40,959
Speaker 2: Warren from Toledo. Interesting player for a lot of reasons.
240
00:10:41,000 –> 00:10:44,200
Speaker 2: So he’s kind of like a long, lanky player with
241
00:10:44,240 –> 00:10:46,920
Speaker 2: a lot of ball skills. So five career picks, including
242
00:10:46,920 –> 00:10:50,520
Speaker 2: two interceptions last year, nine career forced fumbles. So he
243
00:10:50,559 –> 00:10:53,880
Speaker 2: has mastered the Peanut Tillman punch out and it’s a
244
00:10:53,880 –> 00:10:56,760
Speaker 2: thing of beauty to watch and we could use that
245
00:10:56,800 –> 00:10:58,560
Speaker 2: on our defense. I think we’ve talked about this for
246
00:10:58,559 –> 00:11:00,599
Speaker 2: a couple of years now, meeting to find ways to
247
00:11:00,640 –> 00:11:05,200
Speaker 2: get more sudden change defensive plays, explosive defensive plays, and
248
00:11:05,360 –> 00:11:08,880
Speaker 2: get some more takeaways. And that’s Emmanuel McNeil Warren’s bread
249
00:11:08,880 –> 00:11:11,560
Speaker 2: and butter. He was called for just one penalty in
250
00:11:11,600 –> 00:11:14,880
Speaker 2: college on nearly two thousand defensive snaps, So kind of
251
00:11:14,880 –> 00:11:17,680
Speaker 2: impressive to think about that aggressive nature to be going
252
00:11:17,760 –> 00:11:20,600
Speaker 2: for the ball and to have those interceptions, but also
253
00:11:20,679 –> 00:11:23,319
Speaker 2: to not be penalized. So I think that’s kind of
254
00:11:23,360 –> 00:11:25,800
Speaker 2: interesting where he’s not an over aggressive player. He’s an
255
00:11:25,800 –> 00:11:28,840
Speaker 2: aggressive player within the rules of the defense, and that’s
256
00:11:28,840 –> 00:11:32,120
Speaker 2: a good thing. Also, he’d never transferred from Toledo, and
257
00:11:32,160 –> 00:11:35,200
Speaker 2: I know that you’d love that. Guys like this don’t
258
00:11:35,200 –> 00:11:38,199
Speaker 2: come along very often where they’re a star at a
259
00:11:38,240 –> 00:11:41,480
Speaker 2: school like Toledo, and they stay at Toledo because they
260
00:11:41,480 –> 00:11:43,439
Speaker 2: believe in the coaching staff there. They believe that’s the
261
00:11:43,480 –> 00:11:46,280
Speaker 2: best environment for them to grow. I think it’s really
262
00:11:46,280 –> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 2: cool that he was probably offered a bunch of money
263
00:11:48,640 –> 00:11:50,600
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else and he said, I’m good, I’m
264
00:11:50,600 –> 00:11:52,480
Speaker 2: gonna stay here at Toledo or they gave me a
265
00:11:52,559 –> 00:11:55,280
Speaker 2: chance initially. So he’s probably a guy that you could
266
00:11:55,280 –> 00:11:57,800
Speaker 2: take it like twenty nine, maybe forty if he fell,
267
00:11:57,880 –> 00:11:59,960
Speaker 2: But he’d be a fun piece to add to the second.
268
00:12:00,400 –> 00:12:02,320
Speaker 1: He’s another guy that I feel could be a Day
269
00:12:02,360 –> 00:12:05,480
Speaker 1: one impact guy, even if in the sub position. But
270
00:12:05,559 –> 00:12:09,400
Speaker 1: he’s so long. Yeah, then that’s where those punchouts come
271
00:12:09,440 –> 00:12:14,480
Speaker 1: from and deflections. But and again coming from Toledo, people
272
00:12:14,480 –> 00:12:16,320
Speaker 1: would say, well, he played in the Mac. Well, Quinyan
273
00:12:16,360 –> 00:12:18,560
Speaker 1: Mitchell played in the Mac. Okay, he was one of
274
00:12:18,559 –> 00:12:20,560
Speaker 1: my favorite guys in that whole draft. I remember that
275
00:12:20,600 –> 00:12:21,480
Speaker 1: I liked him.
276
00:12:21,520 –> 00:12:22,160
Speaker 2: You were right about it.
277
00:12:22,200 –> 00:12:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn’t love him because then he beats us
278
00:12:24,559 –> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl. So that’s my whole point. You
279
00:12:26,640 –> 00:12:28,920
Speaker 1: can like these guys, just don’t love him until their
280
00:12:28,920 –> 00:12:31,439
Speaker 1: own But yes, I did love him. But I’ve learned
281
00:12:31,480 –> 00:12:35,360
Speaker 1: about but the fact that so many guys now get up,
282
00:12:35,400 –> 00:12:38,280
Speaker 1: they get bought up. Basically I look at the combine.
283
00:12:38,280 –> 00:12:40,839
Speaker 1: We talked about only five FCS guys there. I don’t
284
00:12:40,840 –> 00:12:43,959
Speaker 1: think any Division two or three guys. But when guys
285
00:12:44,000 –> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 1: stay where they’re at, to me, it is a great sign.
286
00:12:46,840 –> 00:12:49,120
Speaker 1: That is a green flag. And the fact that he
287
00:12:49,240 –> 00:12:52,319
Speaker 1: stayed there at Toledo, I like him very much. I
288
00:12:52,360 –> 00:12:53,320
Speaker 1: think that’s a great spot.
289
00:12:53,440 –> 00:12:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, should we jumped to edge.
290
00:12:54,920 –> 00:12:55,560
Speaker 1: Let’s go to edge.
291
00:12:55,600 –> 00:12:57,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I’ll give you one. This is another guy that
292
00:12:57,760 –> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 2: probably could fit around like a twenty nine area, maybe forty,
293
00:13:01,400 –> 00:13:05,480
Speaker 2: but probably twenty nine. It’s TJ. Parker from Clemson. To me,
294
00:13:05,520 –> 00:13:07,720
Speaker 2: he kind of hits all the benchmarks for what SPAGS
295
00:13:07,720 –> 00:13:10,120
Speaker 2: looks for in an edge rusher. So he’s six foot four,
296
00:13:10,240 –> 00:13:13,280
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty three pounds with thirty three inch arms.
297
00:13:13,520 –> 00:13:16,400
Speaker 2: He’s a playmaker. This is crazy. A third of his
298
00:13:16,440 –> 00:13:19,880
Speaker 2: career tackles were in the backfield. Think about that. Consistently
299
00:13:19,920 –> 00:13:22,920
Speaker 2: just making plays, tackles for loss. He had more tackles
300
00:13:22,920 –> 00:13:25,240
Speaker 2: for loss actually at forty one and a half than
301
00:13:25,320 –> 00:13:29,000
Speaker 2: games played in college with just thirty nine. So consistently
302
00:13:29,040 –> 00:13:31,480
Speaker 2: making plays, great motor, always going one hundred miles an
303
00:13:31,520 –> 00:13:33,880
Speaker 2: hour even after the initial rush. He has some great
304
00:13:33,920 –> 00:13:37,160
Speaker 2: tape where the running back will get up field or
305
00:13:37,160 –> 00:13:40,200
Speaker 2: as a screen, he turns around and tracks that player down.
306
00:13:40,440 –> 00:13:42,240
Speaker 2: Doesn’t happen a lot a lot of times. You watch
307
00:13:42,320 –> 00:13:44,280
Speaker 2: edge rushers who are there to get a sack, and
308
00:13:44,320 –> 00:13:47,640
Speaker 2: a sack only if their rush initially fails, they’ve taken
309
00:13:47,679 –> 00:13:48,840
Speaker 2: the playoff. That’s not TJ.
310
00:13:48,960 –> 00:13:49,320
Speaker 1: Parker.
311
00:13:49,679 –> 00:13:52,920
Speaker 2: Now, he was amazing in twenty twenty four, like crazy numbers.
312
00:13:52,960 –> 00:13:55,640
Speaker 2: He had nineteen and a half tackles for loss, eleven sacks,
313
00:13:55,679 –> 00:13:59,080
Speaker 2: and six forced fumbles in twenty twenty four. Production wasn’t
314
00:13:59,080 –> 00:14:01,960
Speaker 2: as highlast year, dipped a little bit, but the foundation
315
00:14:02,400 –> 00:14:05,280
Speaker 2: is obviously there, the potential is there, and he was durable.
316
00:14:05,440 –> 00:14:08,000
Speaker 2: Played in thirty nine straight games to wrap up his career.
317
00:14:08,120 –> 00:14:10,320
Speaker 2: So TJ. Parker to me, if he was there at
318
00:14:10,320 –> 00:14:11,640
Speaker 2: twenty nine would be a home run.
319
00:14:11,960 –> 00:14:14,440
Speaker 1: Let me give you another one who could be at
320
00:14:14,640 –> 00:14:17,920
Speaker 1: forty don’t know it’s about seventy four, but he might.
321
00:14:18,280 –> 00:14:22,240
Speaker 1: And I’m gonna go Ellie makes your heartbeat fast. Yeah,
322
00:14:22,400 –> 00:14:23,320
Speaker 1: another guy that made you.
323
00:14:23,360 –> 00:14:26,000
Speaker 2: For good reasons and bad sometimes. Yeah, I’ve forgotten something that’s.
324
00:14:25,880 –> 00:14:30,680
Speaker 1: A whole other episode. But I’m right here going for
325
00:14:30,720 –> 00:14:33,560
Speaker 1: your heart because Zion Young of MISSOI, oh yeah, all right.
326
00:14:33,760 –> 00:14:37,600
Speaker 1: Originally was it Michigan State wasn’t putting up huge numbers there,
327
00:14:37,640 –> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 1: but enough enough at Michigan State. But give me your
328
00:14:42,520 –> 00:14:48,520
Speaker 1: give me your on Parker. Give me his heightweight, and he’s.
329
00:14:48,280 –> 00:14:50,600
Speaker 2: Sixty four, two hundred and sixty three pounds with thirty
330
00:14:50,600 –> 00:14:51,360
Speaker 2: three inch arms.
331
00:14:51,400 –> 00:14:54,680
Speaker 1: Here’s Zion Young six’, six two hundred and sixty two
332
00:14:54,680 –> 00:14:57,880
Speaker 1: pounds and thirty three inch. Arms the length is. Crazy
333
00:14:58,080 –> 00:15:00,440
Speaker 1: so the point is, here you AND i are the like.
334
00:15:00,480 –> 00:15:03,760
Speaker 1: Spags these are two spags. Guys does that feel that
335
00:15:03,760 –> 00:15:03,960
Speaker 1: way to?
336
00:15:04,000 –> 00:15:06,080
Speaker 2: You, well there’s a lot of not spags guys in this,
337
00:15:06,160 –> 00:15:08,000
Speaker 2: draft oh ya that maybe they could end up. Here
338
00:15:08,040 –> 00:15:10,080
Speaker 2: but in terms of what spags looks, for, yeah these
339
00:15:10,080 –> 00:15:11,160
Speaker 2: are spags players for.
340
00:15:11,200 –> 00:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Sure And zion has been called a poor Man’s Trey.
341
00:15:14,000 –> 00:15:17,680
Speaker 1: HENDRICKSON i will take a poor Man’s Trey. Hendrickson, yeah
342
00:15:17,800 –> 00:15:20,640
Speaker 1: you know. THAT i Love Trey. Hendrickson Like Trey, HENDRICKSON
343
00:15:20,680 –> 00:15:21,800
Speaker 1: i don’t love, him and it’s that we’re red and.
344
00:15:21,840 –> 00:15:23,960
Speaker 1: Gold we have to be careful and he’s crushed us
345
00:15:23,960 –> 00:15:25,880
Speaker 1: a couple of. Times but when you look at what
346
00:15:25,920 –> 00:15:28,640
Speaker 1: he did At, missoo same thing he and watching his,
347
00:15:28,720 –> 00:15:30,920
Speaker 1: TAPE i love. Him you watch him because you’re A miszoo, fan.
348
00:15:31,080 –> 00:15:35,400
Speaker 1: Yep but he’s the same you just. Described the description
349
00:15:35,440 –> 00:15:38,760
Speaker 1: of these two players are very similar because he will fire,
350
00:15:38,840 –> 00:15:41,360
Speaker 1: out he will. Rush the play’s not his, side but
351
00:15:41,440 –> 00:15:44,160
Speaker 1: he will scream out to the, outside whether it’s a bubble,
352
00:15:44,160 –> 00:15:47,440
Speaker 1: screen tunnel, screen outside. Zone he’s Not Oh i’m. Blocked
353
00:15:47,440 –> 00:15:49,680
Speaker 1: i’m going to give up on this. Play his motor
354
00:15:49,720 –> 00:15:55,480
Speaker 1: to me and his pursuit is. Excellent so you AND
355
00:15:55,520 –> 00:15:58,360
Speaker 1: i both have high hopes For Ashton. Jalatti same kind of.
356
00:15:58,400 –> 00:16:02,040
Speaker 1: Player BUT i think these two guys and that’s WHY
357
00:16:02,320 –> 00:16:05,840
Speaker 1: i kind of Love Zion young, here Like Zion young,
358
00:16:05,880 –> 00:16:08,880
Speaker 1: here not love unless he is a, chief but kind
359
00:16:08,880 –> 00:16:09,320
Speaker 1: of the same.
360
00:16:09,360 –> 00:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Guy, well and With, parker and to an even more
361
00:16:12,400 –> 00:16:15,200
Speaker 2: extent With young because of his, length you can bounce
362
00:16:15,240 –> 00:16:17,360
Speaker 2: that kind of player. Inside they get their hands up
363
00:16:17,600 –> 00:16:19,360
Speaker 2: and you’re knocking a pass down at the line of.
364
00:16:19,360 –> 00:16:21,920
Speaker 2: Scrimmage you’ve talked about this. Before that’s as good as
365
00:16:21,960 –> 00:16:24,120
Speaker 2: a sack in my. Mind that wipes out of. Play
366
00:16:25,120 –> 00:16:27,280
Speaker 2: and ALSO i think about How CHARLES. A minehu when
367
00:16:27,280 –> 00:16:29,280
Speaker 2: he was playing his best football how he fit in this.
368
00:16:29,360 –> 00:16:32,040
Speaker 2: Defense Zion young to me is that kind of, PLAYER i,
369
00:16:32,080 –> 00:16:32,600
Speaker 2: think and.
370
00:16:32,600 –> 00:16:34,600
Speaker 1: Many times better than a sack because a thirty five
371
00:16:34,680 –> 00:16:36,840
Speaker 1: yard pass gets wiped. Out, yeah you watch it on
372
00:16:36,920 –> 00:16:39,320
Speaker 1: video and, go he’s wide open for thirty five yards
373
00:16:39,320 –> 00:16:41,520
Speaker 1: in the ball never makes it past the line of.
374
00:16:41,520 –> 00:16:45,600
Speaker 1: Scrimmage all, Right so safety and edge and edge gets
375
00:16:45,600 –> 00:16:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot of. Discussion but let’s go wide, receiver which
376
00:16:49,080 –> 00:16:52,760
Speaker 1: also gets a lot of. Discussion And i’m not sure
377
00:16:52,800 –> 00:16:54,400
Speaker 1: this is a. Nine i’m not sure it’s a twenty.
378
00:16:54,520 –> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 1: Nine it might, be but he’s climbing up the. Charts
379
00:16:57,320 –> 00:16:59,600
Speaker 1: and when you AND i get really kind of excited
380
00:16:59,600 –> 00:17:01,000
Speaker 1: about some when we’ll text.
381
00:17:00,760 –> 00:17:03,200
Speaker 2: You, yeah no matter what time of day or, night it.
382
00:17:03,200 –> 00:17:06,160
Speaker 1: Could be four in the. Morning and, uh we also
383
00:17:06,200 –> 00:17:08,440
Speaker 1: Put Austin woodard on that because he’s Our, yeah he’s
384
00:17:08,480 –> 00:17:12,879
Speaker 1: our draft. Maniac but WHEN i Watched Ted hurst video
385
00:17:13,119 –> 00:17:15,720
Speaker 1: At Georgia, state you’re you won a national title At
386
00:17:15,720 –> 00:17:18,679
Speaker 1: georgia did before you went To New Mexico. State uh
387
00:17:18,960 –> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 1: in college football video? Game BUT i, okay really like his.
388
00:17:27,240 –> 00:17:31,399
Speaker 1: Game this one this, Well i’m. Close this is A
389
00:17:31,480 –> 00:17:33,440
Speaker 1: Mike evans clone to me in many, ways he is
390
00:17:33,480 –> 00:17:36,360
Speaker 1: a red zone. Animal when you look at what he
391
00:17:36,440 –> 00:17:40,359
Speaker 1: has done ball, tracker and when you look at the
392
00:17:40,359 –> 00:17:43,040
Speaker 1: two years At Georgia state just south of two thousand
393
00:17:43,119 –> 00:17:46,959
Speaker 1: yards and fifteen, touchdowns and he is a guy that
394
00:17:47,040 –> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 1: will run, routes but he’s also got enough length where
395
00:17:50,080 –> 00:17:53,199
Speaker 1: he gives you the numbers to boundary h stretch the.
396
00:17:53,200 –> 00:17:55,520
Speaker 1: Field so right now in THE, nfl we’ve talked about
397
00:17:55,520 –> 00:17:57,560
Speaker 1: this ad. NAUSEA i, mean you can just watch games
398
00:17:57,600 –> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 1: and the and the. Playoffs to me really sentuated this
399
00:18:00,960 –> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 1: two deep safeties The puka A coupas of the world
400
00:18:03,920 –> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 1: are winning games because they’re getting catches at eight yards
401
00:18:06,720 –> 00:18:09,159
Speaker 1: making him, eighteen giving you all this middle of the.
402
00:18:09,160 –> 00:18:12,200
Speaker 1: Field the shots that are taken now in THE, nfl
403
00:18:12,240 –> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 1: at least in recent years or last year and a,
404
00:18:14,320 –> 00:18:17,400
Speaker 1: half are numbers to. Boundary no help on the. Outside
405
00:18:17,440 –> 00:18:20,120
Speaker 1: your two safeties over the top may be. Occupied it’s
406
00:18:20,160 –> 00:18:23,040
Speaker 1: a one on one play and even if you don’t complete,
407
00:18:23,080 –> 00:18:27,160
Speaker 1: it A dpi is in there, someplace, sure so that’s
408
00:18:27,240 –> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 1: where the shots are. Going and so for maybe A Taekwon.
409
00:18:30,800 –> 00:18:33,359
Speaker 1: Thornton But i’m talking numbers to boundary and the strength
410
00:18:33,359 –> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 1: to make those. Plays to, me Ted hurst is that.
411
00:18:36,040 –> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 1: Guy and he’s not listed with the other receivers with
412
00:18:40,600 –> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 1: The tats and The tysons and the Mackay lemons And
413
00:18:44,359 –> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 1: boston the kid From, washington but he’s not far. Behind
414
00:18:48,080 –> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 1: AND i really like his.
415
00:18:50,800 –> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 2: Video you, know it’s fun to look back at past
416
00:18:53,320 –> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 2: drafts and you wonder how did certain players go as
417
00:18:56,720 –> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 2: low as they. Did he might be one of those
418
00:18:58,520 –> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 2: guys that we look back on and say he went
419
00:19:00,920 –> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 2: in the third round or, whatever fourth, Round like what
420
00:19:03,440 –> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 2: how did that? Happen i’m with. YOU i will give
421
00:19:05,640 –> 00:19:07,439
Speaker 2: you a player, though that’s being talked about as a
422
00:19:07,440 –> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 2: potential nine overall, guy and That’s Carnell. Taate SO i
423
00:19:11,040 –> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Think tait is really fascinating because he doesn’t have blazing.
424
00:19:15,320 –> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 2: Speed he runs a four to five to, three but
425
00:19:17,480 –> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 2: he might be the top vertical threat in this year’s.
426
00:19:19,720 –> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 2: Class well why is? That, well because he’s really good
427
00:19:22,200 –> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 2: at a lot of stuff that makes you a great vertical.
428
00:19:24,640 –> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 2: Receiver so he can put his foot in the ground
429
00:19:27,000 –> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 2: and create separation because of his, athleticism like better than
430
00:19:30,359 –> 00:19:32,439
Speaker 2: a lot of players in this, class better than players
431
00:19:32,440 –> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 2: that might have better speed than he, does just because
432
00:19:34,840 –> 00:19:36,959
Speaker 2: of how he can use his. Footwork, also he is
433
00:19:37,000 –> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 2: so good even if there’s a guy draped over him
434
00:19:40,000 –> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 2: about going up and getting the. Football so he caught
435
00:19:42,760 –> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 2: twelve of fourteen contested targets last, season nine catches of
436
00:19:46,920 –> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 2: forty or more yards last, year second most in THE.
437
00:19:49,119 –> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 2: Fbs he averaged thirty two yards per touchdown reception and
438
00:19:53,000 –> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: he had nine of, those by the, Way and my
439
00:19:55,040 –> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: favorite note On Carnel tait zero drops on sixty six
440
00:19:58,800 –> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: targets last. Year, so, yeah you look at the forty
441
00:20:02,040 –> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: time and you, SAY i don’t, know is that a
442
00:20:03,640 –> 00:20:06,360
Speaker 2: number nine overall? RECEIVER i say. Yes when you look
443
00:20:06,359 –> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 2: at his, video when you look at what he’s able
444
00:20:08,080 –> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 2: to do and how he’s truly a complete player who
445
00:20:10,760 –> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 2: can be a true vertical, THREAT i, think go up
446
00:20:13,280 –> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 2: and get the. Football mahomes can throw it up, there
447
00:20:15,400 –> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: he’s an account on, this got to come down with,
448
00:20:16,920 –> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: it and he can do so many different THINGS i
449
00:20:18,640 –> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: think in the intermediate passing game as. Well so don’t
450
00:20:21,720 –> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: worry about the forty. TIME i think this is a
451
00:20:23,560 –> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: player that’s really good at a lot of things that
452
00:20:25,520 –> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: kind of make up for.
453
00:20:26,160 –> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: That. WELL i really like. It, OKAY i Mentioned pooka
454
00:20:30,960 –> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: And akua his forty time four or five, Five, yeah, EXACTLY, OKAYJSN,
455
00:20:35,600 –> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: Jsn Jackson smith And jigba incredible year right his forty
456
00:20:39,720 –> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: time four five? Five, okay What tate does? THAT i,
457
00:20:43,720 –> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 1: like remember when we talked on an episode during the
458
00:20:46,160 –> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: season about the tight window, throw meaning or the tight window.
459
00:20:50,359 –> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: Catch we talk about the tight window throw with quarterbacks
460
00:20:52,840 –> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: all the. Time pat can make. It, ready he’s got
461
00:20:54,560 –> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: a just a sliver of a, gap he can do.
462
00:20:57,520 –> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: It but the tight window catch The, chiefs we didn’t
463
00:21:00,400 –> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: make it last. Year and those are the plays you
464
00:21:03,000 –> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: have to make against these look prolific two deep zones
465
00:21:05,880 –> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: and you take shots numbers to, boundary but you’re going
466
00:21:09,400 –> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: to have to make tight window catches And tate has done,
467
00:21:13,200 –> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: that and so you’re. Contested analys of a contested catch
468
00:21:17,119 –> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: would be perfect in fitting A Kansas City chief.
469
00:21:20,920 –> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 2: Uniform it’s something That Taekwon THORNTON i think did well
470
00:21:23,280 –> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: last year deep down the, field making contested. Catches it’s
471
00:21:25,920 –> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 2: also something THAT i don’t Think tyreek ever got enough
472
00:21:28,160 –> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: credit for Because tyreek obviously is the fastest player in THE,
473
00:21:31,400 –> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: nfl or was during his time with The, chiefs but
474
00:21:34,240 –> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: he could go up and get the football deep down
475
00:21:35,920 –> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: the field Like Carnel tate can do. That SO i
476
00:21:38,359 –> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 2: think he’d be a home run up The chiefs were
477
00:21:39,760 –> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: able to land. Him he would just add a different
478
00:21:41,359 –> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: DYNAMIC i think to the. Offense are we jumping to
479
00:21:44,280 –> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: a corner not a?
480
00:21:45,040 –> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Corner and you got to go first on this? One all?
481
00:21:46,680 –> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: Right i’ll give you a guy that really has kind
482
00:21:48,520 –> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: of grown on me over, time And i’m kind of
483
00:21:50,960 –> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: fired up about As jermad McCoy From. Tennessee so he
484
00:21:55,400 –> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: was one of the top corners in the nation back
485
00:21:57,320 –> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, four his first season At. Tennessee he
486
00:22:01,000 –> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: was awesome AND i think tracking to be the top
487
00:22:04,280 –> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: corner taken in this year’s, draft if not right there
488
00:22:07,000 –> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: With Monsieur, delaine WHO i think is kind of the
489
00:22:08,720 –> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: consensus number one, guy but McCoy was right there with.
490
00:22:11,280 –> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Him the issue is In january of that, season he
491
00:22:14,840 –> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: tore HIS acl and wiped out his entire season this,
492
00:22:17,760 –> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: year so couldn’t play at. All hasn’t played football since
493
00:22:20,160 –> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Four the tape is really, good, though and
494
00:22:23,240 –> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: if people were concerned about his rehab how things were,
495
00:22:26,359 –> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: going we ran a four four forty at his pro,
496
00:22:28,760 –> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: day so he seems like he’s doing all. RIGHT i
497
00:22:31,520 –> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: think he has the ability to be like a complete.
498
00:22:34,080 –> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 2: Corner he can play press, man he can play, zone
499
00:22:36,520 –> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: he can do just about anything played high level. FOOTBALL
500
00:22:39,560 –> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: i think it’s funny his first career interception when he
501
00:22:41,840 –> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: was At Oregon state was Against Fernando. Mendoza he’s likely
502
00:22:44,680 –> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: going to be A raider that would be a good.
503
00:22:46,080 –> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: Fit and, also he went to White House High school
504
00:22:48,240 –> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: And Patrick mahomes knows, him and there’s this awesome PICTURE
505
00:22:51,440 –> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: i think it was maybe twenty eighteen or, seventeen very
506
00:22:54,760 –> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: early In mahomes’, career he went back To White house
507
00:22:57,640 –> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 2: and there’s a picture of him with Young jermad McCoy
508
00:23:00,160 –> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: and how funny would that be if they ended up
509
00:23:02,040 –> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: on the same. Team so he’s the kind of player
510
00:23:04,560 –> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: THAT i think could really elevate the. Secondary we’ll see
511
00:23:08,080 –> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: if he’s available later in the, draft like at number.
512
00:23:11,240 –> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: NINE i don’t know if he’s that kind of guy right.
513
00:23:13,359 –> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: Now maybe he is if The chiefs really fall in
514
00:23:14,920 –> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: love with, Him but that could be the kind of
515
00:23:16,720 –> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: candidate that if The chiefs want to trade back or
516
00:23:18,560 –> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: trade into the middle of the first. Round he can
517
00:23:20,480 –> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: make a lot of.
518
00:23:20,960 –> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: Sense, yeah so keep your theory on the. Sandwich to,
519
00:23:25,160 –> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: me he’s exhibit a of why you would eat a.
520
00:23:27,200 –> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Sandwich just hang on to that for a.
521
00:23:29,000 –> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: Second, YEAH i Mean i’m talking About i’m.
522
00:23:32,119 –> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: Gonna Take Monsieur delaine here because you had mentioned. Him,
523
00:23:34,720 –> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: yeah love his. Tape he’s another one that when we
524
00:23:37,720 –> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: watched it And i’m, like oh my, gosh love this. Guy,
525
00:23:40,520 –> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: now McCoy And delaye both are spags. Guys delaane to
526
00:23:45,320 –> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: me is a computer generated spags guy At Virginia. Tech
527
00:23:49,800 –> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: he wasn’t, bad but he really flourished in his year AT,
528
00:23:52,480 –> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: lsu a prototype man press. Defender think about the guys
529
00:23:58,880 –> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: in the class of twenty two talked About Jalen. Watson
530
00:24:01,480 –> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Jalen watson was able to thrive here as a seventh
531
00:24:04,359 –> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: round pick because he fit the way The chiefs do,
532
00:24:07,080 –> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: business and so does Montsur. Delaine, now why would you
533
00:24:10,680 –> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: take a corner at the ninth? Pick would you take
534
00:24:12,880 –> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: a corner of the ninth? Pick because people were, like,
535
00:24:14,560 –> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: OH i don’t know about. It patzertan was taken as
536
00:24:17,320 –> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: the ninth pick with it Nver broncos if you look
537
00:24:20,040 –> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: At delane six two two oh two fits The spags corner.
538
00:24:23,480 –> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: Right it’s a big, dude but he’ll flip his hips
539
00:24:27,680 –> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: like no other and he also tracks the. Ball he
540
00:24:31,359 –> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: is also a. Tackler keep in mind our top tacklers top.
541
00:24:34,800 –> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: Five if you look since twenty, two the corners are
542
00:24:38,359 –> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: in there. Somewhere they’re always wants some of our top.
543
00:24:40,680 –> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: Tacklers why we’re great at bubblescreen. Defense they don’t miss.
544
00:24:45,000 –> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: Tackles if you’re not a willing, tackler then don’t come
545
00:24:48,280 –> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: be A Kansas City chief. Cornerback But delane forty five
546
00:24:52,440 –> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: tackles AT. Lsu fifty four is a junior At Virginia.
547
00:24:55,720 –> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Tech fifty four is a sophomore At Virginia. Tech so
548
00:24:59,560 –> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: it’s a. Hut fifty three tackles in three years from
549
00:25:01,720 –> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: a corner that is music to the ears Of Dave
550
00:25:05,560 –> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: merritt and defensive coordinator and Coach bagnolo And Steve. Spagnolo all,
551
00:25:12,080 –> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: right still ball skills eight, interceptions four force, fumbles twenty
552
00:25:15,560 –> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: seven passes broken, Up, smart, tough tall, tackler man. DEFENDER
553
00:25:23,720 –> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: i really like Montsour delaye AND i would really like
554
00:25:28,240 –> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: taking him at, nine and if we get him at,
555
00:25:29,880 –> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: nine Then i’ll love.
556
00:25:30,480 –> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: Him SO i just Saw spags in the. Hallway did
557
00:25:32,400 –> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: you see?
558
00:25:32,680 –> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Him? Yes.
559
00:25:33,160 –> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah we should have just had him on the episode
560
00:25:34,680 –> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: and been, like what do you think These IF i,
561
00:25:37,000 –> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: say IF i Say jermald McCoy Or Monster, delaine what
562
00:25:40,359 –> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: do you? Say you, Know i’m. Curious, Yeah i’d be
563
00:25:43,440 –> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: thrilled with either of those guys getting a player of
564
00:25:46,359 –> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: that caliber at. Corner we’ve talked about the need to
565
00:25:49,560 –> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: enhance the pass. Rush, well adding a player like that
566
00:25:52,200 –> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: helps the pass rush because you’re adding potentially an all
567
00:25:55,280 –> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: pro level corner to your. Defense i’m with you offensive tackle,
568
00:25:59,200 –> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: next what we’re doing or where do you want to
569
00:26:00,960 –> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: go if it’s?
570
00:26:01,720 –> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: Hard but let’s talk about your. Sandwich oh, yeah theory
571
00:26:05,480 –> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: while we’re on the, topic and the fact that this
572
00:26:08,520 –> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: is where a drmid McCoy would be a great example of.
573
00:26:12,480 –> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: This so your, THEORY i agree with, it potentially is.
574
00:26:15,440 –> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: What SO i think it would work out great if
575
00:26:18,200 –> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: The chiefs traded down from number nine to LIKE i
576
00:26:21,800 –> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: haven’t looked at a team in, mind but like fifteen
577
00:26:23,920 –> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: or sixteen or, seventeen.
578
00:26:25,119 –> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: What About dallas at?
579
00:26:25,960 –> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: Twelve that’d be, great and then you trade up from
580
00:26:29,400 –> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: twenty nine later to like twenty, one twenty two or
581
00:26:32,760 –> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: something like, that you would get some more, picks and
582
00:26:35,119 –> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: you still end up with two picks in the middle
583
00:26:37,200 –> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: of the first. Round AND i think a player like
584
00:26:38,960 –> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: McCoy is like the perfect player to take at like
585
00:26:41,520 –> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: twelve overall or in the middle of the first. Round
586
00:26:43,640 –> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: so that’s my. Theory if it, happens who. Knows i’m
587
00:26:46,640 –> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: not saying it’s going to happen Or i’ve heard that’s
588
00:26:48,400 –> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: going to. Happen i’m just saying that would be a
589
00:26:49,960 –> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 2: fun result and you could get some more picks as.
590
00:26:52,000 –> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: Well and let’s just, say and even at twenty, nine,
591
00:26:55,960 –> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: everybody don’t freak out if you don’t get an edge
592
00:26:57,880 –> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: or a wide receiver at, nine because in this draft
593
00:27:01,880 –> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: there’s going to be a potential starter at wide receiver
594
00:27:05,320 –> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: or edge at twenty. Nine, yeah and maybe even at,
595
00:27:08,040 –> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: forty because that’s my. Goal we’ll get to the. End,
596
00:27:10,119 –> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: first here ethan dessert while we’re having the, veggies is
597
00:27:13,280 –> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: the fact THAT i want three. Starters i’m not, greedy
598
00:27:15,800 –> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: but at, nine twenty, nine and, forty you’re, Going, mitch
599
00:27:17,680 –> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: what do you want three, starters day one, starters day,
600
00:27:20,400 –> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: one snap, one impact, players and you can get that
601
00:27:23,640 –> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: with those three picks in this draft at the variety
602
00:27:26,280 –> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: of needs The chiefs.
603
00:27:27,040 –> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: HAVE i think that has to be the, expectation and
604
00:27:29,520 –> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: if you look back at twenty twenty, two that’s what we.
605
00:27:31,920 –> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Got so we got a starting, corner we got a
606
00:27:34,800 –> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: starting at dresser At George carl Loftis leo was kind
607
00:27:38,160 –> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: of a. Starter he was like That sam, linebacker BUT
608
00:27:40,680 –> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: i was in there quite a. Bit Brian cook was
609
00:27:43,280 –> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: the third safety, essentially but we just had depth. There
610
00:27:45,760 –> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: but he could have started if need. Be But Asaia
611
00:27:47,480 –> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: pacheco was the starting running back for this. Team halfway
612
00:27:49,520 –> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: through the next, Season.
613
00:27:50,440 –> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: Jalen watson in the second week in THE nfl credit
614
00:27:52,480 –> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: a ninety nine yard.
615
00:27:53,240 –> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: Pick, Yes Jilan watson was essentially a starter with the whole.
616
00:27:55,440 –> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: Season so even if you don’t find him in the top,
617
00:27:57,840 –> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: three we need to find starters in this. Draft But
618
00:27:59,800 –> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: i’m with, you those top three picks need to be.
619
00:28:01,880 –> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: STARTERS i think.
620
00:28:02,640 –> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: We’re going to offensive. Tackle this is mine to. Start
621
00:28:05,200 –> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: and Now i’m gonna go down because we’ve said this.
622
00:28:10,600 –> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Before this is a right tackle. Festival there’s like eight
623
00:28:13,600 –> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: or nine guys in a popcorn popper to, me BUT
624
00:28:17,720 –> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: i got two guys that aren’t necessarily listed as near
625
00:28:21,160 –> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the top in the, draft And i’m going to go to,
626
00:28:24,080 –> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: here But i’ll start With Blake miller Of. Clemson, yeah
627
00:28:28,600 –> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: because here’s WHAT i. Want here’s my definition of WHAT
628
00:28:31,480 –> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: i want at right tackle in the twenty twenty six.
629
00:28:33,560 –> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Draft give me A Mitchell schwartz. Clone give Me Mitchell
630
00:28:38,000 –> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: schwartz of the twenty twenty six draft. Class Why Blake
631
00:28:41,120 –> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: miller From clemson’s in? There fifty four, snarts, starts four thousand,
632
00:28:46,480 –> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: snaps four thousand crazy all? Right as a, freshman he
633
00:28:50,520 –> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: started at right tackle as a true freshman At, clemson
634
00:28:53,400 –> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: the first time that had. Happens it’s nineteen forty, four
635
00:28:56,480 –> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: and he did not. Stop he just kept. Rolling, Now
636
00:28:59,480 –> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: i’m going to give you another one kind of, close
637
00:29:01,480 –> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: because these two to, me are very, similar and It’s
638
00:29:04,120 –> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Caleb tiernan Of northwestern six seven, tall kind of string bean.
639
00:29:08,720 –> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Type he needs to kind of grow into his. Body
640
00:29:10,800 –> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: but Think Mitchell schwartz, here Because mitchell had those seven
641
00:29:14,680 –> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: ninety four directs consecutive, snaps AND i remember coming off
642
00:29:18,480 –> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: the field At, tennessee And i’m choking tears BECAUSE i
643
00:29:21,000 –> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: kept giving a snap. Count But Caleb tearning In northwestern
644
00:29:23,920 –> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty six, snaps gave up one sack
645
00:29:26,720 –> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: one and the fact that he was just durable with
646
00:29:31,800 –> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: them forty three starts For northwestern at, tackle and they
647
00:29:36,480 –> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: played a lot of left. Tackle but he can go
648
00:29:38,120 –> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: to the right. Side but those two guys to, me
649
00:29:40,440 –> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: are plug and. Play let them. Rip they are shown
650
00:29:43,840 –> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: they’re durable and tough and Smart Mitchell schwartz and then
651
00:29:50,000 –> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: and keep in, mind Now i’m just because you got
652
00:29:53,280 –> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: to find the swing here and so you keep the
653
00:29:57,040 –> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: swing action going. There BUT i would take these two
654
00:29:59,360 –> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: guys and look at them as a starting right tackle
655
00:30:02,760 –> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: in week.
656
00:30:03,240 –> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: One i’m playing tackle in The big ten is no,
657
00:30:05,640 –> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: joke especially now you’re Playing oregon And washington AND usc
658
00:30:09,400 –> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: in addition To Ohio state And michigan and all These
659
00:30:12,320 –> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Indiana like it’s it’s nuts on The Blake miller, NOTE
660
00:30:16,360 –> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: i like him a lot too high school, wrestler which you.
661
00:30:18,600 –> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: LOVE i love. It but, yeah the fact that and
662
00:30:21,160 –> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: With Jalen, MOORE i think he’d be like the best swing.
663
00:30:24,360 –> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Guy look what he, did and so this isn’t a
664
00:30:26,840 –> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: knock on. Him this is to put him in the
665
00:30:28,440 –> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: best spot possible for The chiefs to win football. Games.
666
00:30:32,040 –> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well and we need, depth. RIGHT i think
667
00:30:34,080 –> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: last year showed us we need depth on the interior
668
00:30:38,200 –> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: of our, team so the offensive and defensive, lines we
669
00:30:41,080 –> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: need it badly because last year it was tested on
670
00:30:43,800 –> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: both sides. Significantly so we’re.
671
00:30:45,560 –> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: RIGHT i want wrestlers on the offensive.
672
00:30:47,280 –> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: Line, Yeah Blake miller was a high school, wrestler WHICH
673
00:30:49,240 –> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: i Knew mitch would love. Immediately how Wasn’t clemson? Better
674
00:30:52,360 –> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: clemson has so many players who are like first and
675
00:30:54,240 –> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: second around talents between Like miller And Antonio williams is
676
00:30:57,480 –> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: a good, Player Peter, WOODS. Tj parker, obviously and they
677
00:31:01,640 –> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: have so many good. PLAYERS i don’t know how they weren’t.
678
00:31:03,600 –> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: Better i’ll give you a player who’s a little bit
679
00:31:05,760 –> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: different than the guys that you talked, about because he’s
680
00:31:08,120 –> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: more of like a raw player and like a ball of.
681
00:31:10,640 –> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Clay It’s Maxi Hannah shore From Arizona. State kind of
682
00:31:14,040 –> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: reminds me a lot of what we have in Like,
683
00:31:16,040 –> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: esapole Even Chew, goderich where it’s a very young player
684
00:31:20,040 –> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: who was new to. Football so that’s the case of
685
00:31:21,760 –> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: The Hannah shore only started playing football in twenty twenty,
686
00:31:24,600 –> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: one two years of juco ball before transferring To Arizona
687
00:31:27,960 –> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: state in twenty twenty. Three clearly a quick. Learner so
688
00:31:32,040 –> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: he’s From nigeria originally and played basketball and soccer growing. Up,
689
00:31:36,560 –> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: again reminds me Of. Chew that athleticism is on full.
690
00:31:40,040 –> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Display you can see that and how he moves thirty
691
00:31:42,880 –> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: one starts at right tackle during his time with The
692
00:31:44,920 –> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: Sun Devils durable so finished his career with twenty eight straight. Starts,
693
00:31:49,080 –> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: again still very raw at the, position like brand new
694
00:31:51,640 –> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: to it in a, sense but has some experience for
695
00:31:54,720 –> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: a young player and a raw, player and obviously showed
696
00:31:57,720 –> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: some really good. THINGS i think the foundation is there
697
00:32:00,040 –> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: for him to be a really good young. PLAYER i
698
00:32:02,200 –> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: don’t know if he comes in day one and wins
699
00:32:04,000 –> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: the starting, job BUT i think if you’re trying to
700
00:32:06,080 –> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: build some depth and trying to build a player up
701
00:32:08,800 –> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: who was ascending who maybe could be your right tackle
702
00:32:11,160 –> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: for years to come once he kind of gets his
703
00:32:12,840 –> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: legs under, Him Ihana shore could be that.
704
00:32:14,640 –> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Guy, Yeah i’m all the tackles listed and we know
705
00:32:18,320 –> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: when you go down the line And fano and go
706
00:32:20,760 –> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: down to the, line this one might have the hana
707
00:32:23,880 –> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: try might have the highest ceiling of any of. Them
708
00:32:26,160 –> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: this is a guy that maybe in three years looks
709
00:32:27,960 –> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: like A Pro bowl. Guy, yeah and keep in mind
710
00:32:30,480 –> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: now they, Won they went to The big Twelve championship
711
00:32:32,880 –> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: game and he blocked For Camp. Scatabo so he’s been
712
00:32:35,480 –> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: around some really good football and some good dudes and
713
00:32:40,720 –> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: With tyson At Arizona. State SO i think that’s a good.
714
00:32:44,080 –> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Pick that may be more of a projection, one but
715
00:32:46,200 –> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: that’s what you do when you get down to maybe
716
00:32:48,600 –> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: forty or.
717
00:32:48,960 –> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: Seven that’s the. Thing he’s not a player you take
718
00:32:50,640 –> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: at number nine or maybe even twenty. Nine but if
719
00:32:53,280 –> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: we were able to get him at like forty or beyond,
720
00:32:55,760 –> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: that like you’re getting a player with a great FOUNDATION
721
00:32:58,360 –> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: i think in a lot of.
722
00:32:59,040 –> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Potential, okay we got one more position, group and again
723
00:33:03,160 –> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: this episode is we really like these. Guys you can’t
724
00:33:08,400 –> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: love them until you pick. Them and they’re wearing red
725
00:33:10,760 –> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: and gold and. White all. Right so the final category
726
00:33:13,720 –> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: is defense side defensive, tackle inside. Technique AM i going?
727
00:33:18,320 –> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: First you’re going? First?
728
00:33:19,320 –> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Finished i’m going to give you a player who
729
00:33:21,920 –> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: is a local guy because we love the local. Guys Dominique,
730
00:33:24,560 –> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: Orange Big, citrus a Big. Citrus so he went To
731
00:33:27,800 –> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: North Kansas City High, school which is. Run but it’s
732
00:33:30,360 –> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: not just because he’s. LOCAL i think he could help our.
733
00:33:32,160 –> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: Team so he’s six foot, two three hundred and twenty
734
00:33:34,320 –> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: two pounds with long, arms crazy, strength so he benches
735
00:33:38,160 –> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: four to fifty squat six fifty at that, size, durable
736
00:33:41,840 –> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: played in fifty games over four years At Iowa. State to,
737
00:33:45,600 –> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: me projects is like a rock solid run defender and
738
00:33:48,120 –> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: just like an anchor in the middle of your defense
739
00:33:50,560 –> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: as like kind of that nose. Tackle, NOW i know
740
00:33:52,560 –> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: we Signed Kiris, tanga AND i think there’s some discourse
741
00:33:54,960 –> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: out there that we don’t necessarily need your classic nose
742
00:33:58,760 –> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: tackle kind of guy anymore because we Have. Tonga my
743
00:34:02,360 –> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: counterpoint would be that we need depth and we need
744
00:34:05,000 –> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: as many bodies at the position and players who are
745
00:34:07,920 –> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: ascending and can grow into playmakers for us at that,
746
00:34:10,320 –> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: position because, again look at the last couple of, years
747
00:34:12,920 –> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: particularly last year When Omar Norman locke got, hurt there’s
748
00:34:16,320 –> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: not a lot of depth at that. Position have to
749
00:34:18,040 –> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: go out and Bring Mike panel. Back BUT i would
750
00:34:20,440 –> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: love to develop some young players at that. Spot so
751
00:34:24,560 –> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: seventeen games, in we’re not talking about how we’ve lost
752
00:34:27,000 –> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of players and we’re just not nearly
753
00:34:29,000 –> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: as effective. THERE i Think Dominque orange is a fun
754
00:34:31,560 –> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: player who maybe isn’t going to be a BIG sac,
755
00:34:33,760 –> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: guy but could be a really solid player in the
756
00:34:36,320 –> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: middle of your defense for years to.
757
00:34:37,640 –> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Come, yeah you need at least three in a, rotation hopefully.
758
00:34:40,880 –> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: Four in those inside tech guys usually four and mine
759
00:34:45,760 –> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: Is Lee hunter Of Texas. Tech, okay he might be
760
00:34:48,600 –> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: the most Underrated Texas tech front guy we know About
761
00:34:52,000 –> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: David bailey when you look At ramela height. TWO i
762
00:34:55,480 –> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: remember When PAT i talked To pattic how many defense
763
00:34:58,080 –> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: like guys you have on that? Line he was, like,
764
00:34:59,840 –> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: yeah the best.
765
00:35:00,680 –> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: Money who would have thought twenty years Ago Texas tech
766
00:35:02,640 –> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: would have all these great defensive.
767
00:35:03,840 –> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think they can Thank pat for. That, Yeah but,
768
00:35:07,320 –> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Anyway Lee, hunter when you look at what he’s, done
769
00:35:10,400 –> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: and a little bit similar to the engine That Zion young’s.
770
00:35:13,520 –> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: Got But Lee hunter has been highly. Productive sixty nine
771
00:35:16,760 –> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: tackles in twenty twenty three that led ALL fbs defensive
772
00:35:20,520 –> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: interior defensive. Lineman he also has the chance thirty one
773
00:35:24,400 –> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: tackles for losses the last two. Years so how much
774
00:35:28,040 –> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: Did bailey and Did heit get helped Because Lee hunter
775
00:35:32,000 –> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: was not able to be? Blocked and don’t people, go,
776
00:35:34,120 –> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: well he’s not a scheme. Fit he’s a zero tech
777
00:35:36,360 –> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: and he plays a three. Four so don’t you get, no, no, no, no,
778
00:35:39,000 –> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: no this guy can. Play he’ll be a one tech
779
00:35:41,280 –> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: penetrator that does not forfeit his two gap. Responsibility we
780
00:35:45,040 –> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: got to get. You we got old time action, here
781
00:35:46,520 –> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: so we’re gonna get out this. On i’m gonna give
782
00:35:47,719 –> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: you high ON imna mention.
783
00:35:48,520 –> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: One, okay let’s hear.
784
00:35:49,280 –> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: It Tied an elast stouris Of Vanner.
785
00:35:50,880 –> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: Bill, yeah, OKAY i love that. Guy i’m just gonna
786
00:35:53,800 –> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: say it, said you’re loving it in the Charge you’re.
787
00:35:57,520 –> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: Second yeah that’s a good. Point, yeah that’s a good.
788
00:35:59,320 –> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Point he had like a forty five inch. Vertical he’s.
789
00:36:02,000 –> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: Crazy he had over two foot broad.
790
00:36:03,800 –> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Jump, YES i really Like eli. Stars he was a
791
00:36:08,200 –> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: four star quarterback. Prospect he comes out as a quarterback.
792
00:36:12,960 –> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Prospect he kind of bounces, around he goes To New
793
00:36:15,560 –> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Mexico state and gets beat out at quarterback By Diego. Pavia,
794
00:36:19,080 –> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: yeah who beat him. Out so now he moves the
795
00:36:21,239 –> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: tight end and he becomes. This so think About Dalton, kincaid,
796
00:36:24,760 –> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: right you go, Down Dalton. Schultz these move tight, ends
797
00:36:28,880 –> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: AND i just think a great compliment To kels could.
798
00:36:31,160 –> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: EVENTUALLY i don’t, Know Eli, Stars.
799
00:36:34,239 –> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: I’m with you on.
800
00:36:34,880 –> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: That really like.
801
00:36:35,800 –> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: It he reminds me of for You royals fans, listening
802
00:36:38,440 –> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: it’s Like lucas erseg he was like a position player
803
00:36:40,640 –> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: and the miners and they’re, like, hey why don’t you try?
804
00:36:42,640 –> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: Pitching he throws like a ninety eight mile por fastball
805
00:36:45,440 –> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: Lay this is. Easy the thin thing with stours, like,
806
00:36:47,600 –> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: hey why don’t you try tight? End when’s The John Mackey?
807
00:36:49,960 –> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: Award is the top tight end in all of college.
808
00:36:51,640 –> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: Football some people are just good at, everything And Eli
809
00:36:53,920 –> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: stowers fits that. Category you don’t think he’d be productive as,
810
00:36:56,680 –> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: achieved he’d be awesome as. Achievement you have me worried
811
00:36:58,680 –> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: about The chargers now, Though, yeah.
812
00:37:00,840 –> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: All the other thirty. Teams, yeah, okay that’s where we’re.
813
00:37:03,719 –> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: At that’s our pre draft. Analysis but know, this we’re
814
00:37:07,080 –> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: going to have all kinds of draft, coverage including we’ll
815
00:37:10,280 –> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: be At power And light On thursday night getting ready
816
00:37:13,680 –> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: for what is a very very very important twenty Sixth.
817
00:37:16,280 –> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: Draft just know this From matt and. Me really like these,
818
00:37:20,080 –> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: guys but stop from saying you love them until they’re
819
00:37:25,360 –> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: wearing a, red, white and girl



