O-Line U: Catalyst to a Win | Chiefs vs. Bengals Preview feat. Creed Humphrey | Defending the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: Okay, let’s try this again. The Chiefs will try once

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Speaker 1: again to win the AFC West for an eighth consecutive

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Speaker 1: time as the Bengals come calling Sunday afternoon. Defending the Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: We’ll try this again, but on this episode we’ll center

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Speaker 1: on where football fans don’t spend enough time in giving

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Speaker 1: respect to offensive linemen. There’s actually an offensive line university,

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Speaker 1: and we’ll pay tribute to one of the greatest offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen to play in Pro football. And he played for

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and had the biggest part of

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Speaker 1: one of the most important plays, and he’s not given

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Speaker 1: enough credit for it. This Defending the Kingdom liked him

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Speaker 1: All is brought to you by Ticketmaster ninth playing the

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Speaker 1: Drive for the Chiefs. They trailed twenty to seven, two

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Speaker 1: forty eight to go in the game, third down and

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Speaker 1: goal to go at the seven form homes looking left.

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Speaker 1: Here comes pressure. He is hit from behind.

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Speaker 2: Now he escapes?

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Speaker 1: Does it light God in thes a touchdown chanzas City

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Speaker 1: Tough touch by Justin Watson and Hi everyone, our Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year edition of Defending the Kingdom. Michelters with you

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs along with Senior team reporter Matt McMullen,

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Speaker 1: and this episode is called O Line University Catalyst for Victory,

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Speaker 1: and we’re going to talk about the offensive line. It

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Speaker 1: has never required more intricacy in study and knowledge and

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Speaker 1: toughness than ever before. And these offensive linemen are approaching it,

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Speaker 1: especially our guys on a twelve month basis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it’s something that we don’t really talk about because

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Speaker 2: when you watch football, like the quarterbacks and the skill

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Speaker 2: the ones that are scoring and making the highlight plays.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is, and we talk about this all

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Speaker 2: the time, that football, even in twenty twenty three, is

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Speaker 2: still one the same way it was one in the

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Speaker 2: sixties and in the forties. It’s one in the trenches.

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Speaker 2: That’s the reality. It looks different, but it’s real that

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Speaker 2: you win football games with your offensive line and your

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Speaker 2: defensive line. And the Chiefs been blessed to have one

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Speaker 2: of the best offensive lines in the NFL over the

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Speaker 2: last several seasons that help us make this entire offensive

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Speaker 2: engine go. And we’ll need him here against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I would love to put it on every billboard around

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom. And that is a question I always ask.

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Speaker 1: I’ve asked you before, I’ll ask it again. Find me

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Speaker 1: a really good football team with a bad offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and when you do, it will be the first one.

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Speaker 2: And this week the.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs face a challenge as the Chiefs offensive line will

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Speaker 1: take on the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that has led

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Speaker 1: by Trey Hendrison, probably the most underrated edge player in

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Speaker 1: the entire National Football League. But before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: and we’re also going to pay tribute to Ed Buddy.

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Speaker 1: We lost Ed Buddy on December the ninth. His memorial

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Speaker 1: service was this week. Ed Buddy. We talk about underrated players,

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Speaker 1: we’re going to talk about sixty five Toss Power Trapp.

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Speaker 2: But this is a guy that played.

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Speaker 1: All fourteen years with the Chiefs, and for all intents

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Speaker 1: and purposes, Matt Ed Buddy should be in the Pro

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Speaker 2: He really should. You look back with those early teams,

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Speaker 2: there are two players that are not in the Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame that should. It’s Otis Taylor and

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Speaker 2: it’s Ed Buddy. I don’t know why they’re not. And

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Speaker 2: Ed Buddy. Whenever you read any Eulogi’s on his life

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Speaker 2: or talk to anyone about him. Somehow, what always comes

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Speaker 2: out is just a great football player. It’s a great

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Speaker 2: football player, an amazing person off the field as well,

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Speaker 2: Just an incredible football player, and I’m totally with you.

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Speaker 2: Should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He was ahead of his time, a blend of toughness

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Speaker 1: and power and speed. Hank Stram, of course was ahead

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Speaker 1: of his time with his offensive tendencies, but he couldn’t

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Speaker 1: have done it without Ed Buddy. We’ll get into that

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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the episode, but before we

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Speaker 1: do that, let’s jump on the space station that is

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Speaker 1: run by Matt Stad himself, Matt McMullen, as we go

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Speaker 2: Well, I’ve got five today for Tommy Townsend. What a

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Speaker 2: throw by Tommy Townsend.

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Speaker 1: You know, the twenty five yard punt. I love Tommy,

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Speaker 1: but I’m trying to get that pass. Not respecting the

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Speaker 2: It’s one of those things. This is the reality of it,

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Speaker 2: and we’re guilty of it as well. Like when the

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Speaker 2: things like that. That ended up being inconsequential because the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs didn’t score on that drive. There was a missed

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Speaker 2: I mean, really impressive throw by Tommy. So five for

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Speaker 2: you here today. Shout out to Gary from Knoxville, Tennessee

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Speaker 2: Rocky top as.

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Speaker 1: I say, that’s right in your mom’s wheelhouse. Sure living

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Speaker 2: Go Valls. Russ is in Fresno, California, living with the

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Speaker 2: family of Raiders, which is difficult on this December twenty sixth.

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Speaker 2: Stay strong, Russ. We also need to get Russ out

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Speaker 2: Stay strong, You gotta stay strong. Russ.

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Speaker 1: Stays strong.

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Speaker 2: Russ. We heard from Michael and Deltona, Florida. Glenn is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, home of the They’re women’s mask ball team is

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Speaker 1: for both men’s and women’s sports. They’ve had, they’ve had

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Goodland, Kansas has had some awesome athletes down

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Speaker 2: Look out all right impressive. Then lastly, Eric is checking

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Speaker 2: with Ellie and my sister and her boyfriend to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I’ve only been once before. I was there for the

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Speaker 2: preseason game earlier this year, but we’re only there for

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Speaker 2: like twenty four hours, so you don’t get to experience it.

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Speaker 1: An amazing city, amazing city, New Orleans. So he’s really

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Speaker 1: But it’s got a lot of charm and a lot

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Speaker 1: of history. All right, this edition, I got one to

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Speaker 1: defender every episode type couple, and it’s Jim and Lisa Statton.

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Speaker 1: I think it’s how you say it, Jim and Lisa

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Speaker 1: Statton from Ake and South Carolina. Okay, and hang on

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Speaker 1: every word of defending the Kingdom, and they’re waving the

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Speaker 1: So anyway, shout out to Jim and Lisa Statton. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let’s get into offensive line University. These offensive line in

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs head are really intriguing guys, if you’re around

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Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey for any amount of time, or Tray Smith

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Speaker 1: or Joe Toney. And we’re getting to know Yanye Morris

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Speaker 1: excited about him although the Raiders were throwing the kitchen

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Speaker 1: sink at him in the last game. And then Juwan

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Speaker 1: Taylor coming in as an unrestricted free agent, and then

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Speaker 1: the rest of the offensive line room. Right, we’ve seen

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Speaker 1: big men touchdown from Nick Allaghretty Mike Kelliendo continues to

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Speaker 1: among others. But there’s something called O L Masterminds that

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Speaker 1: I’m really intrigued with you. And I have Austin Woodard

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Speaker 1: as a friend right in Japlin, Missouri, and Austin’s an

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Speaker 1: offensive line guru. There’s a dude named Duke Minieweather and

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Speaker 1: he is like the Yoda of offensive line teaching, and

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Speaker 1: he has a university or a seminar that he has

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Speaker 1: in Texas in the off season. And the Chiefs offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: particularly Tray Smith and Creed Humphrey and one year Morris attended.

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Speaker 1: This year swear by it and it was an answer.

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Speaker 1: Remember von Miller put together like pass rush University, and

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Speaker 1: he has this consortium and like we’re going to destroy

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Speaker 1: all the pass rushers, will rule the earth. Well, the

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen are going, well, wait a minute, maybe we’ll

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Speaker 1: do that. But it’s never been tougher to play on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line in this league because the athletes you’re

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby and Kotz was awesome, Malcolm Codes. But the

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Speaker 1: intricacies of playing the position have become more profound, and

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Speaker 1: so it’s a twelve month venture for the Chiefs. Offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Pass rushers are so good nowadays. I mean they’re just

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Speaker 2: these elite hybrid athletes that are strong and powerful but

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Speaker 2: also fast, and they have a variety of moves they

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Speaker 2: can use on you that I’m with you that playing

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Speaker 2: offensive line is so hard nowadays. I think it’s the

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Speaker 2: hardest that it’s ever been in professional football. And I

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Speaker 2: think it is really cool what Douke many Weather does

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Speaker 2: with ol masterminds. You’re right about the pass rushing summit

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Speaker 2: that Von Miller has. There’s also tight end the university.

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Speaker 2: So this is kind of becoming a thing where position

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Speaker 2: on things like technique, why are you so good? Why

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Speaker 2: am I so good? All that kind of stuff. But again,

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Speaker 2: we kind of focus on the skill positions, and edge

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Speaker 2: rushers are basically skill position players. I mean, everyone knows

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Speaker 2: their names, right, but people don’t normally know the best

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Speaker 2: offense of linemen in the NFL, especially the best interior

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman in the league, unless you’re really committed to

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Speaker 2: learning about it. And we have some of the very

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Speaker 2: best year in Kansas City between Creed Humphrey Joe Toney

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Speaker 2: and Trey Smith, And a little background on Obell Masterminds.

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Speaker 2: It began back in twenty eighteen. Duke Minnyweather and Lane Johnson,

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Speaker 2: all pro with the Eagles, co founded it and it

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Speaker 2: really is a year round thing that’s devoted to training, developing,

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Speaker 2: and scouting the nation’s best offensive lineman. And the summit

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Speaker 2: that they have in the off season is kind of

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Speaker 2: like the tent pole around it. The guys all get

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Speaker 2: together in the off season and talk about things like preparation,

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Speaker 2: how to study, film, recovery, execution, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And what was so cool last year talking about Creed

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Speaker 2: and Trey they weren’t just people that went to it

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Speaker 2: and experienced it, they actually led sessions. So Creed Humphrey,

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman current pro offensive lynemen who are older than

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Speaker 2: he is. He was teaching things about his preparation, his technique,

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Speaker 2: what makes him such a good player to others because

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Speaker 2: they were interested in learning from Creed Humphrey. And same

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Speaker 2: deal with Trey Smith. Trey led a seminar, So really

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Speaker 2: really cool. Makes us proud of our guys that they’re

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s exciting for sure. And uh, you know, there’s

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Speaker 1: Humphrey. We talk about the intricacies of playing offensive line.

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Speaker 1: underdogs to the Minnesota Vikings. We talk about Mike Garrett

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Speaker 1: running the ball, the footwork by Lenny Dawson, We see

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Speaker 1: Hank Stram going watch it pop wide open boys, sixty

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Speaker 1: five toss power trap dementor what we do not talk about.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it’s not even on That play is etched

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Speaker 1: out in front of the Founder’s Plaza, but you just

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Speaker 1: see a line drawn in the line of cross showing

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Speaker 1: a block. Ed Buddy’s block at left guard. He played

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Speaker 1: fourteen years for the Chiefs at left guard. He makes

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Speaker 1: the play maybe of that Super Bowl in his block.

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Speaker 1: Without Ed Buddy’s block, there is no sixty five toss

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Speaker 1: power trap, and therein lies the life of an offensive line.

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Speaker 2: That’s why football is the ultimate team game. That’s why

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Speaker 2: football is the greatest game in the world. Because when

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Speaker 2: you watch sixty five top power trap, like you said,

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Speaker 2: your eyes go to Mike Garrett because he scored, and

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Speaker 2: that’s obviously very important. That’s the center of the play.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Garrett cannot score by himself. Everything else has

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Speaker 2: to go according to plan. Everyone has to do their job.

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Speaker 2: And think about some of the plays in recent Chiefs history.

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Speaker 2: Think about the run to Immortality Damian Williams. We always

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Speaker 2: talk about the blocking on that play. Doesn’t happen if

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Speaker 2: it was a Byron Pringle and Anthony Sherman.

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Speaker 1: Pringle had that when he at Pringles because it’s a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: he takes the DV off the screen.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Sherman knocks out two guys. But if there’s not a

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Speaker 1: slow down play side by Eric Fisher, yeah, that play’s

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Speaker 1: going nowhere. In fact, it’s going to be a loss.

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Speaker 2: Great example, and that first down and of course ended

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Speaker 2: up being a touchdown sealed the Super Bowl. Back in

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty four for the Chiefs. Think about WASP

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Speaker 2: in that Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes has a fifteen step drop.

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Speaker 2: Nick Bose is coming around the edge. It’s one of

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Speaker 2: the best defensive lines in the NFL. Third and fifteen

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Speaker 2: they smell blood. The offensive line has to block just

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Speaker 2: long enough for Tyreek to make it down the field.

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Speaker 2: So we can go on and on about this, but

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Speaker 2: the offensive line and the whole operation has to work

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Speaker 2: in concert and together for some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 2: to occur in Chief’s history and NFL history. And we

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Speaker 2: remember the highlight part like we remember Damian Williams running

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Speaker 2: for the touchdown, and that’s obviously very important. You have

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Speaker 2: to have the vision, you have to hold onto the

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Speaker 2: football and score and be fast like Damian was, but

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Speaker 2: you have to have everything else working as well. And Ed, buddy,

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Speaker 2: what he did on sixty five toss power trap is legendary.

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Speaker 2: It’s legendary and it deserves more attention.

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Speaker 1: He also became the first offensive lineman to be named

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Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week in Pro football history.

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Speaker 2: That’s crazy.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely obliterated the Raiders by himself one day, and

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Speaker 1: there’s so many guys that have talked about it. This said,

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Speaker 1: I’ve never seen an offensive lineman in a single game

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Speaker 1: dominate a game like Ed Buddy did against the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and he gets Offensive Player of the Week as alignment,

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Speaker 1: which never happened. We’ll close it out this way just

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Speaker 1: because of this game. We’re going to try this again.

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Speaker 1: We’re going to try to win the AFC West this week.

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Speaker 1: Why we want to bring up offensive line masterminds and

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Speaker 1: what we’re calling ol university catalyst of victory. I think

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Speaker 1: we agree, Matt that the catalyst of victory this week

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Speaker 1: over the Bengals and to try to win this division

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Speaker 1: for an eighth consecutive year, will start with the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Because Trey Hendrickson, who plays for the Bengals, I think

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Speaker 1: is the most underrated edge player in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: You hear about the Boses, you hear about Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: we don’t hear enough about Trey hendricks Sixteen sacks is second.

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Speaker 2: Right now in the NFL and seventy two pressures that’s

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Speaker 2: tenth in the NFL. And I think Sam Hubbard on

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Speaker 2: the other side, is one of the more underrated edgereshers

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Been there a long time and a

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Speaker 2: really good player who’s been a thorn in our side

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Speaker 2: every time we’ve played them. So they have one of

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Speaker 2: the better tandems in the league. They don’t have DJ

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Speaker 2: Reader in the middle. That is significant, one of the

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Speaker 2: best interior pass rushers and run defenders in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Not having him is a big deal. They lost him

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Speaker 2: to season ending injury a few weeks ago. But still,

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Speaker 2: we just played these guys enough to know that this

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Speaker 2: defensive line in this pass rush is legit. And coming

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Speaker 2: off a tough game against the Raiders last week, how

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Speaker 2: do you set the tone early? You do it with

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. And even though this came in a

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Speaker 2: loss a few weeks ago, the way the Chiefs played

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Speaker 2: against the Packers in the third quarter up front, where

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Speaker 2: they were blowing the Packers off the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco was running for like eight yards of carry

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Speaker 2: dragon guys with them and the offensive line was pushing

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Speaker 2: the pile. I hope we see that kind of mentality

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Speaker 2: from the Chiefs offensive line here in this game, because

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Speaker 2: that’s how you win, that sets the tone from the

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Speaker 2: get go that it’s going to be a sixty minute fight.

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Speaker 2: And frankly, the Raiders did that defensively last week where

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Speaker 2: those guys wanted that game, it was apparent. And for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs in this one, from the offensive lines perspective,

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Speaker 2: if you come in with an edge except the tone early,

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Speaker 2: I like the Chiefs chances a lot and winning the

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Speaker 2: division against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: This has got to be brush fire throughout that locker room.

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Speaker 1: But setting the fire the offensive line, and we all

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Speaker 1: know where they set in that locker room during the week.

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Speaker 1: They’re over in their own little corner. They need to

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Speaker 1: be the catalyst for victory. And this Bengals defense, they

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Speaker 1: also have Logan Wilson at linebacker. He might be the

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Speaker 1: most underrated linebacker in the league, to go with Trey

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Speaker 1: Hendrickson as the most underrated edge rusher, and then Cam

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Speaker 1: Tandler Britt the former Nebraska Cornhuskers. So they’ve got guys

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Speaker 1: up front, middle, and back. Now statistically they haven’t had

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Speaker 1: great statistics, but those guys that we just mentioned are

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Speaker 1: enough to wreck the party and the offensive line because

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Speaker 1: of delayed blitzes the games they call them games. In

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you’ll see stunts and twists where they’re showing

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Speaker 1: you this, but then all of a sudden they twist

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Speaker 1: or do they delayed twists, and then here comes the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: All of that is part of OL university, in part

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Speaker 1: of OL masterminds, and for a guy like one Ye

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Speaker 1: Morris to learn who’s lined up where and what are

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Speaker 1: they doing in that split second after the snat.

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Speaker 2: And here’s the thing. If you look at the Bengals defense,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that some of their stats are middle of

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Speaker 2: the pack or bottom third of the league, which surprising.

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Speaker 2: One area where they have really struggled is allowing explosive plays.

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Speaker 2: They’ve allowed the most plays of ten or more yards

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Speaker 2: of any team, with two hundred and twelve, and the

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Speaker 2: most plays of twenty or more yards of any team

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Speaker 2: was seventy three. For some context, the Chiefs have allowed

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Speaker 2: the second fewest plays of twenty or more yards defensively,

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Speaker 2: with only forty two, so almost twice as many big

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Speaker 2: plays allowed, both on the ground and through the air.

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Speaker 2: But those explosive plays begin with the offensive line. Because

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Speaker 2: whether it be a running play where you have to

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Speaker 2: open up the hole or a passing play where you

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Speaker 2: need time for the play to develop, it all begins

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Speaker 2: with the offensive line. So these Bengals, they allow explosive

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Speaker 2: plays as long as the offensive line can set that

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Speaker 2: tone early. The one really scary thing about the Bengals

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Speaker 2: defense when you’re looking at all the numbers, the one

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Speaker 2: category where they are near the top of the NFL

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Speaker 2: is red zone takeaways. They have seven red zone takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has more, I think.

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Speaker 2: Exactly yep, seven red zone takeaways. So for the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: offense here in this one, you’re moving down the field,

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Speaker 2: you’re feeling good. Not only do you have to finish

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Speaker 2: in the red zone, you have to not turn the

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Speaker 2: ball over in the red zone. So it’s a huge

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Speaker 2: key here in this game. The Bengals defense, it’s middle

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Speaker 2: of the pack, but we’ve seen these guys enough to

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Speaker 2: know that they are very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: So consider this as OL Masterminds, or we’re calling it

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Speaker 1: OL University. Think of its finals week for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: offensive line in trying to pass this test, and if

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Speaker 1: they do so, it’ll be the offensive line that will

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Speaker 1: be catalyst to victory.