“If The Defense…” DB Camp Breakdown | Defending the Kingdom 7/30

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Speaker 1: Thank you vantage on the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: game they can play. He don’t touchdown Kansas City, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs all right in the thick of a baby. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to this training camp edition of Defending the Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Mitch alters with you voice to the Chiefs, along with

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Speaker 1: the man we call the shop, the Barbershop, the surpiber Man,

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Speaker 1: and senior team reporter Matt Stad himself Matt McMullan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there’s nothing better than doing a Defending the Kingdom podcast

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Speaker 1: from training camp the Nats Sound of the Moors. We

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Speaker 1: got the win going on. It has been a great

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Speaker 1: start to this camp in Saint Joe. And I’m gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you two guys, if you’re seeing and hearing what

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Speaker 1: I’m seeing and hearing, and that is a vibe around

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Speaker 1: this team. This is a team that is hyper focused

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Speaker 1: and in many ways rebooting well. My thought here, Mitch is,

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, this team has accomplished so

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Speaker 1: much over the last several years, four straight AFC Title

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Speaker 1: a lot and you wonder when a team has accomplished

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Speaker 1: all of this, What did they have to keep motivating them? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think there’s some disrespect out there from the national

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Speaker 1: perception of who the best teams in the NFL are

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Speaker 1: this season. And while for the most part they block

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Speaker 1: out all the outside noise, it’s hard not to hear

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Speaker 1: that sometimes. And I think throughout OTAs in mini camp

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Speaker 1: team that’s excited for this upcoming season and they’re motivated

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Speaker 1: to go out there and prove that this is the

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Speaker 1: best team in football. It’s fun to see the vibe, re, energy, azz,

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Speaker 1: more energy, a youth movement, however you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: Brett Veach has pressed the hard reset. He’s brought in

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Speaker 1: some energy, some excitement, some guys and go sadline and

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Speaker 1: Sadeline on the defense side of the ball, and a

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Speaker 1: bunch of playmakers to help Pat Mahomes continue to maticulate

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Speaker 1: that ball down the field with mvs and also juju.

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Speaker 1: So I’m excited to see all three of these phases

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Speaker 1: come together. But I’m really excited to see the hard work,

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Speaker 1: the blood, sweat and tears, all the bricks be put

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Speaker 1: into place as we build that Kingdom build that Ford

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Speaker 1: up for the upcoming twenty twenty two season. Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: had his breast spring and summer in his ten years

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Speaker 1: in this league. I ask him, I go, dude, are

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Speaker 1: you trying to make the team, because it looks like

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Speaker 1: because he was given all this extra effort. He goes,

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Speaker 1: I’m re energized. I’ve rediscovered my love for football, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, I’m ticked off. I’m kind of ticked off

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Speaker 1: like everybody thinks the Chiefs are gonna be two and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: A reminder. Our podcast Defending the Kingdom from here at

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Speaker 1: seen people including a family that comes to camp every year.

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Speaker 1: They’re a missionary family from South America. Now you have

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Speaker 1: let’s go. We’re now the epicenter of the Chiefs Kingdom

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Speaker 1: moves for three weeks to ride here at this spot

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Speaker 1: at Missouri Western State University in Saint Joe. But that

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Speaker 1: means the world revolves around here. What do we have

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Speaker 1: around the world? So thirteen names in places as always

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Speaker 1: in honor of thirteen seconds. So first we have Todd

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Speaker 1: and Black Diamond, Washington. He says he’s infiltreating Seahawks territory

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs flag. Love that. We’ve got Ronda and Williamsburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: You like that one, Huh? Yeah? Her and her husband, well,

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Speaker 1: they’re originally from Missouri but never made it to a

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Speaker 1: game ever, but now they’re going to the Bills game

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Speaker 1: this year here in Kansas City and they can’t wait. Yep.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got Dwayne and his dad, Robin. They’re in Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City, but they’re originally from Rock Springs, Wyoming. His

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Speaker 1: dad does the whole reason he’s a fan. Wanted to

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Speaker 1: give him a shout out here in DTK. Here today,

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Speaker 1: we’ve got Jeremy and Honolulu, Renee in Union City, New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: going to be flooded with red and gold in week four.

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Speaker 1: Love that. We’re gonna board that ship. Ye ship, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. We’ve got a listener who grew up

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Speaker 1: in North Kansas City and went to William Jewel, but

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Speaker 1: this is a new one. He now lives in North Pole, Alaska. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know, still need Antarctica, but north Pole, Alaska is

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Speaker 1: that’s pretty good. Describably our furthest north location right, there’s

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Speaker 1: nothing of a point barrow. That’s the north of North Pole.

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Speaker 1: Way to go. Got him, It’s awesome. We’ve got Brad Simcox.

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Speaker 1: He’s one of those arrowhead abroad. He’s been here before

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Speaker 1: I met Brad um. He wants to to send him

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Speaker 1: a defending the Kingdom shirt in the United Kingdom. So

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Speaker 1: we’re still working on that. We’re working on that idea

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Speaker 1: is in motion. It’s going to happen. And Rique is

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Speaker 1: listening in Bloomington Minnesota, but he’s originally from Mexico City.

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool. Wesley is from Alatha, but they’re claiming Briarwood

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Speaker 1: as b Dub Kingdom. That’s awesome. Matt is from southern California.

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Speaker 1: He’s a third generation Chiefs fan. His dad and his

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Speaker 1: grandparents lived in Kansas City. He doesn’t, but he’s continuing

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs legacy. Love’s pretty cool. I love all those stories,

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Speaker 1: those generational transfers. Great, it’s the best. We’ve got Skyler

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Speaker 1: in South Korea, and then Terry and Bangkok. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: I met a fan twenty minutes ago who asked if

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Speaker 1: I could wish Tracy Gage a happy birthday in August first.

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Speaker 1: So happy birthday to you, Tracy? And where does Tracy Gage?

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Speaker 1: Lou didn’t get that information, but it’s a birthday in

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Speaker 1: August first. It could be anywhere in the world we

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Speaker 1: know there’s a defending of the kingdom. Maybe North Poul, Alaska. Well,

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Speaker 1: let’s so many times through this spring and summer. This

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Speaker 1: goes back to our Vibe discussion to open the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I have been in private end public conversations saying, well

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Speaker 1: if the Chiefs, if the defense, if well, if the

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Speaker 1: defense if the defense. This starts a series of defending

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Speaker 1: of the kingdoms. We’re gonna call him if the defense,

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Speaker 1: and part one will be the defensive backs. But the

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Speaker 1: three of us have heard this, everybody kind of dissing

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Speaker 1: the defensive If the defense, if they could so the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs are well will start. But let’s just get

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Speaker 1: a global thought here, because Matt, you’re a discussion about

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Speaker 1: the defense, Sean, because everybody’s thinking, gosh, the defense hasn’t

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Speaker 1: been any good for five years. They were number one

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Speaker 1: or three in the league last year in the final

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Speaker 1: eight games of the year in points allowed. Yeah, it’s

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Speaker 1: how you finished now and how you start the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the defensive coordinator are the players

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Speaker 1: know that it’s a it’s a building. It’s a building

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Speaker 1: up to play in playoff football. That most fans that

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Speaker 1: watch stats don’t really account for it. They want to

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Speaker 1: defensively as far as points giving up, points allowed and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Well, as we know from

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Speaker 1: where you won the game. So if that’s the type

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Speaker 1: of defense we’re trying to aim for, that’s not the

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Speaker 1: defense I want. I want a team that’s gonna rise occasion,

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Speaker 1: that’s gonna make big stops, make big plays, put quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on the ground, make pick sixes, play consistently. I’m sound

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Speaker 1: football throughout the season. And to do that, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. It’s a building block, it’s a

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Speaker 1: building process, but you build upon some good days, some

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Speaker 1: some bad days. But what you want to do is

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Speaker 1: make sure at the end of the season you’re playing

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Speaker 1: playoff football and that’s accountable, that’s fast, quick, that’s making

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Speaker 1: plays all over the field, and I believe we have

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Speaker 1: the personnel at all three levels to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we’re gonna get into that very thought over the next

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Speaker 1: You can find our live stream that we did here

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Speaker 1: also get into that of the very thing that you mentioned, Matt.

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Speaker 1: If the defense, if the defense defensively, we have seen

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Speaker 1: this defense do great things at times, but you’ve heard

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Everybody’s thinking, Gosh, the defense won’t be

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Speaker 1: any good. What’s interesting about this year as we said

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Speaker 1: goodbye to a lot of players that were on this

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Speaker 1: defense for a long time and they made great contributions

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Speaker 1: to this team. But we’ve turned the page now and

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Speaker 1: there’s been an infusion of youth and talent and athleticism

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Speaker 1: on this defense. So outside of just defensive backs, all

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Speaker 1: players on this defense, I’m going to list off all

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Speaker 1: of these names. These guys are all either twenty five

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Speaker 1: years old or younger. Nick Bolton, Willie Gay, Legarius Sneed,

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Speaker 1: George Carloftus Rashad Finton, Joshua Williams, Brian Cook, Leo Chanel,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Watson. There’s more. Think of all those players. All

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Speaker 1: of those guys have made plays in this camp. All

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Speaker 1: of those guys have a chance to make a real

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Speaker 1: impact on this team this year, and they’re all super young,

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Speaker 1: and they’re excited for the opportunity to just be in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and to compete on this defense. And while

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Speaker 1: there’s been struggles in the past at times, we’ve been

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Speaker 1: seeing these guys who are young riots to the occasion

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Speaker 1: and They’re not playing like players who were young. They

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Speaker 1: look like players that have been around a long time,

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Speaker 1: and that’s very encouraging. That, to me, is the biggest

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Speaker 1: point of those guys you mentioned, because you’re thinking, wow,

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Speaker 1: that defense is so young. We have seen their athletic ability,

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Speaker 1: but even more than that, what I’ve noticed from these

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Speaker 1: start their careers in many cases or expand their careers.

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Speaker 1: That is very prevalent on this team, and that’s what

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league does not see. You look

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Speaker 1: at the number and go east, twenty four, he’s twenty three. Well,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you can be twenty three and act like you’re ten.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be twenty three and act like you’re

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Speaker 1: a seven year veteran. Justin Reid comes to mind. So

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Speaker 1: let’s get into the defensive backs here. There are eighteen

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Speaker 1: in this camp. Rashad Fenton’s on pup right now, physically

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Speaker 1: and able to perform. We’ve seen him make plays and

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Speaker 1: maybe the biggest play you’ve forgotten about in Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty four when he corral Jimmy Garoppolo on the first

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Speaker 1: defensive stop that led to the avalanche in the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: winning that game. But let’s go into this team now.

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Speaker 1: So jumping to the other seventeen hundred’s, however, you depend

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Speaker 1: where you put Nassi Johnson as a safety or a corner.

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Speaker 1: It’s split almost down in the middle nine nine. But

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Speaker 1: let’s go into the safeties because this is where I’m

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Speaker 1: really excited about this team. Shop will start with you

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Speaker 1: what a Justin Reid can do, what a one Thornhill

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Speaker 1: Spags will use him early on, but I know that

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Speaker 1: as long as Brian can pick up the playbook, he

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Speaker 1: physically can handle that position. And I’m very excited to

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Speaker 1: see how he can do over the course of this season.

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Speaker 1: I am confident he’s going to make some plays for

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Speaker 1: us this year. And Deon Bush kind of a sneaky

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Speaker 1: offseason signing. I think he’s one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: if you come up to training camp and you follow

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs but haven’t been following every single signing, you’ll

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Speaker 1: be like, who’s twenty six out there on defense? As

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Speaker 1: Deon Bush? And I think he can make some plays

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Speaker 1: for US this year as well, both on defense in

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Speaker 1: those big safety looks as maybe an extra safety, or

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Speaker 1: also on special teams, as we’ve talked about, because you

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Speaker 1: need core special teamers. One thing we haven’t talked about

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Speaker 1: much is a lot of player that played a lot

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Speaker 1: of special team snaps for this team last year are

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Speaker 1: no longer here. Yeah, and you want guys who are

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Speaker 1: experienced in that role because the margin of error in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is so slight that if you have a

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Speaker 1: mistake on special teams, that’s the difference between winning and

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Speaker 1: losing special exactly. You want to experienced players that know

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Speaker 1: what they’re doing, can go out and execute coach Tobe’s

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Speaker 1: vision on special teams, and Deon Bush can do that.

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Speaker 1: I had that very discussion with coach Tobe and Andy

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Speaker 1: Hill just the other day about all the guys that

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Speaker 1: have to be replaced. But then it goes back to

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Speaker 1: the athleticism we’ve talked about, which this is a much

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Speaker 1: more athletic team and that usually leads to good special teams,

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Speaker 1: even though there won’t be perfect all along. All right, quickly,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the safeties here, I’ll just mentioned him.

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Speaker 1: Nazi Johnson’s kind of is a safetier corner thundering Herd. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there he is, Marshall, Zane Anderson played some last year.

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Speaker 1: Chris Lamon’s back with this team. Could be a corner,

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Speaker 1: could be safety awesome and special teams then also Devin

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Speaker 1: Key and Nasira career. Now let’s jump into the corners

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes here as we close out this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But the corners this is where again you talk about

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Speaker 1: teams or fans coming out to camp going who’s twenty six?

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Speaker 1: They’re going, well, who’s twenty three at corner? Rookie Joshua

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Speaker 1: Williams there, Trent McDuffie at the other corner. We know

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Speaker 1: that LJ. Sneid could be probably top three slot corners

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Speaker 1: in the league. So let’s start with you shop with

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Speaker 1: this cornerback crew again a redo reboot. But I’m liking

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Speaker 1: what I’m seeing so far. Yeah, I just I hope

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Speaker 1: that the mentality from a cornerback is to use training

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Speaker 1: camp to build some confidence. I want my safeties to

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Speaker 1: know when I’m inside of the lineman and I got

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Speaker 1: helped you outside, I’m gonna use you when I’m outside

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Speaker 1: of a linement and you’re coming down as a whole safety.

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Speaker 1: I’m gonna I’m gonna stay on my leverage in my

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Speaker 1: man coverage throughout the echoed the whistle out. There’s not

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Speaker 1: gonna be a point where I let up. I’m not

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Speaker 1: gonna glance back at the quarterback to Tom and abandon

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Speaker 1: you as a as as as a cornerback. I’m gonna

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Speaker 1: play my position the way it’s supposed to be played.

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Speaker 1: And if I can build that confidence up in my secondary,

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Speaker 1: it allows the safeties to be free rangers, to be

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Speaker 1: able to show disguises and coverages because I know that

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Speaker 1: you know what you’re supposed to do. And that’s the

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Speaker 1: one thing in training camp you build that confidence in

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Speaker 1: each other. And then as far as mirability, you got

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Speaker 1: to be able to stay in front of these receivers

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Speaker 1: and not let them go up the field. You gotta

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Speaker 1: prevent them from getting in their route to give our

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Speaker 1: pass rush, to give the pass rushers and the green

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Speaker 1: dogs and the linebackers time to get to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and make that quarterback a little bit get him off

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Speaker 1: his spot. So it goes hand in hand. The pass

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Speaker 1: rush and the coverage goes hand in hand. But it

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Speaker 1: comes down to communication, trust, and then accountability. You gotta

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Speaker 1: know your alignment, your assignment, and then you gotta go

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Speaker 1: out and execute. So I’m looking forward to seeing these

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Speaker 1: young guys getting put in some base coverage if needed to,

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Speaker 1: but then a lot of their raw skills to take

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Speaker 1: advantage allot of their raw skills, to show what it

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Speaker 1: is to be young and aggressive and even if you

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Speaker 1: gotta make some mistakes, this is the time where you

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Speaker 1: cut your teeth. This is the time where you learn

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Speaker 1: your lessons as a young corn in the league about

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Speaker 1: how does it feel to try to climb up a

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Speaker 1: six foot four wide receiver that has an amazing catch radius,

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Speaker 1: and how is the field to go against a four

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Speaker 1: two sky more going down the field, test your test

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Speaker 1: your limits. I’m push your limits. Fail a little bit,

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Speaker 1: It’ll make you a much better player and then make

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Speaker 1: you a much more consistent corner come game day during

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Speaker 1: the season, especially with the teams the Chiefs will play

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Speaker 1: this year in the AFC and the six games in

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Speaker 1: the AFC West. You just described, Mike Williams. You just

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Speaker 1: described guys at quarterbacks in this league that want to

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Speaker 1: hit you at that third level. Okay, Joshua Williams Division

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Speaker 1: two to me, I lose sleepover a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: If I’m losing sleepover these guys, it’s because I’m excited

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Speaker 1: and not anxiety, just because I’ve seen more than I

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Speaker 1: thought I would see at this point. And with Trent McDuffie,

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Speaker 1: we know about sneat in the slot, but these corners,

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Speaker 1: it’s not gonna be perfect, it’s not gonna be instant oatmeal.

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Speaker 1: But I think the upside is as since Andy’s been here,

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Speaker 1: I’m not so sure there hasn’t been this much upside

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Speaker 1: at corner. You know, what makes it easier to cover

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Speaker 1: a six four receiver as if you’re six foot three

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Speaker 1: like Joshua Williams. Is certainly helps. And the Chiefs over

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Speaker 1: the years just haven’t had a lot of very super

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Speaker 1: tall corners. That’s fine, I mean, they made up for

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Speaker 1: it with athleticism. But this offseason there seemed to be

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Speaker 1: an emphasis on trying to get some longer corners in here.

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Speaker 1: And for example, last year, the Chiefs didn’t have any

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Speaker 1: corners over six foot two. They have three in this camp.

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Speaker 1: Joan Watson out of Washington State, Lonnie Johnson from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, and of course Joshua Williams out of Fayetteville State,

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Speaker 1: and we were curious, with Joshua coming from a smaller school,

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Speaker 1: how quickly can he adapt to NFL football. And we’re

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Speaker 1: watching OTA’s Mitch and we’re like, oh, he can kind

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Speaker 1: of hang right now, like already, and let’s see how

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Speaker 1: it translates to camp right and so far, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he’s been looking really good. There’s that video out there

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Speaker 1: of Juju Smith Schuster making a great catch deep down

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Speaker 1: in the field. Well, Joshua Williams. What made that play

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Speaker 1: so great for Juju is Joshua Williams was in perfect

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Speaker 1: coverage on that play. Juju just made a great play

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Speaker 1: on the ball. But the important thing Coach Reid has

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Speaker 1: mentioned this is that there are bodies on bodies. They’re

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Speaker 1: making it difficult these receivers. Joshua Williams is a rookie

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Speaker 1: in this league. He didn’t play any caliber competition like

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Speaker 1: this when he was in school, and yet he is

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Speaker 1: adapting already to the game. And he gets back to

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid. Reid mentioned that Joshua is buying into the system,

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Speaker 1: and that’s all you can ask for from these players.

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Speaker 1: Go out there, know the playbook, buying into the system

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Speaker 1: and just get better every single day, work on your communication,

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Speaker 1: grow as a defense together, and we’re seeing that so

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Speaker 1: far from him. One thing, and I’d excite you about

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Speaker 1: the opening game against Arizona’s LJ. Sneety has five career interceptions,

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Speaker 1: four against NFC teams. Just tell him he’s going to

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Speaker 1: play the NFC all the time. But he’s a very

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Speaker 1: good slot corner. You mentioned Jalen Watson, you mentioned Lonnie Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I’m just going to mention the other corners here. DiCaprio Bootle,

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Speaker 1: former Nebraska Cornhusker, played some with this team last year.

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Speaker 1: Same with DeAndre Baker, also a local kid. In fact,

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Speaker 1: his mom I sat with his mom on today’s practice.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Dandridge who played at Missouri Western here in Division two.

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Speaker 1: So neat kid. And then don’t sleep up on Rashad

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Speaker 1: Fenton’s on P p P right now. But he made

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Speaker 1: the play to start the Avalanche in Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: four when he contained Jimmy Garoppolo on a third down scramble.

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Speaker 1: And so Fenton’s made big plays for this team. So overall,

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Speaker 1: as we close it, just this thought on if the

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Speaker 1: defense and the DBS and where you want to see

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Speaker 1: this camp go from you two guys who will wrap

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Speaker 1: it up? Well, I’ll started. I mean, listen, where you

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Speaker 1: started at didn’t have anything to do with your destination.

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Speaker 1: I started at University of Richmond, small school ten years

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Speaker 1: later and spide us but ten years later, had a

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Speaker 1: great career in the NFL, And I look forward to

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Speaker 1: the Fentons and the Williams and all these under underappreciated,

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Speaker 1: underdrafted Gays. If you if you got some air and

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Speaker 1: opportunity right here on the field, this is where you

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Speaker 1: prove that you belong and this is where you accelerate

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Speaker 1: and go out there and make play. So if you

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Speaker 1: ask me what if, I’ll say the defense, why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not us? Why not now? Why not? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Be one of the top defenses in the league. And

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Speaker 1: it’s not about doing anything special or anything unique except

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Speaker 1: for playing hard nose, smart football, being accountable to your

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Speaker 1: teammates in the position you know you’re supposed to be in,

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Speaker 1: and then finishing the play. That is what you need

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Speaker 1: from a player to player to build some confidence in

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Speaker 1: one another. And then, like Reed said, we got to

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Speaker 1: have great communication. We got a backpedal, we need it.

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Speaker 1: But then we got to be able to finish the play,

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Speaker 1: finish the play strong, and if you can have that

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Speaker 1: kind of trust in each other, it is no doubt

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Speaker 1: we’re not gonna lose any sleep for this twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two defense. Yeah, I just say, you know, it’s only

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Speaker 1: day four for the veterans, stay seven for the rookies.

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Speaker 1: But I’m super encouraged by what I’ve seen out of

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Speaker 1: this defense so far. And when you have so many

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Speaker 1: young players, to see them out there being on their spot,

589
00:27:33,600 –> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: following their assignments correctly as far as we can tell,

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Speaker 1: and making plays, it’s just really exciting. Now. The next

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Speaker 1: big test is the pads come on on Monday, August first,

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Speaker 1: the pads will be on, and we’ll learn something new

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Speaker 1: about these guys when they’re actually playing football out there.

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Speaker 1: But at least, so far, so good for these dbs.

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Speaker 1: I’ll buy you both lunch. If any of these guys

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Speaker 1: we mentioned shy away when the pads are on, I

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Speaker 1: think it’s gonna be just the opposite defense. I’ve talked

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Speaker 1: to speech Steve Spagnola many times in just private discussions.

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Speaker 1: Defense has change in the NFL the days of the

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Speaker 1: eighty five Bears and the two thousand Ravens are over.

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Speaker 1: But if you have a defense that is explosive and

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Speaker 1: can make turn on you place, think about the Nick

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Speaker 1: Bolton scoop and score against Denver. Those are the defenses

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Speaker 1: that are dangerous and win championships. The Chiefs are working

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Speaker 1: on one right here for Matt mcfonland and Sean Barbera.

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Speaker 1: I’m Mitch Holtis. We’ll have some more podcasts coming up.

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Speaker 1: Just stay hooked in with us. I’m training camp right

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Speaker 1: here on defending the Kingdom. Touch down, walking down, and

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Speaker 1: the celebration begins in their hand