Volume, Value & Victory: Winning the 2022 Draft | Defending The Kingdom 4/19

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Speaker 1: Thank you Vannage. On the day when you get out

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Speaker 1: the game, they can play. OHI, Michael, don’t do it

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Speaker 1: one touchdown Kansas City the Chiefs. All right, in the

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Speaker 1: thick of it, baby, we’re getting ever closer. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to this edition Defending the Kingdom. Michelson’s with

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Speaker 1: you voice the Chiefs along with Chiefs reporter Matt Stad himself.

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Speaker 1: Matt McMullan. All right, you think about the draft all

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Speaker 1: year long. Some people get into the draft bore, they

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Speaker 1: get into the games. But as we get closer now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the tension goes up. But we

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Speaker 1: get ready for the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, And

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Speaker 1: on this episode we’re calling at the three vs. Here

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Speaker 1: as we’re going looking at volume value and then victory.

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Speaker 1: How did the Chiefs win the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that is a Now it’s turned

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Speaker 1: into a defending the Kingdom tradition. We go around the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: gotta do it. So we have people all over once

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Speaker 1: again who’ve been listening to DTK and who have checked in.

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Speaker 1: So we’ll start with Ricardo in Spain. Ricardo is our

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Speaker 1: loan person outside of the US. This week’s Ricardo. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: to you Ricardo in Spain. We also have Cynthia from

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Speaker 1: San Diego, a listener in San Francisco, Larry in East

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Austin from Lancaster, California, John and Elkins, West Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Ryan in Newark, New Jersey, Stephen New York City, Troy

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Speaker 1: in Shingle House, Pennsylvania, Ron from Wichita fan since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy two, Jeremy in Carrollton, Texas. We’ve heard from him before.

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Speaker 1: He let us know that he’s moving to Corpus Chrissy

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Speaker 1: in a few months, So good luck with your move, Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: We have Justin take your Kingdom flag with you exactly.

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Speaker 1: I’m sure he will put it right there on the coast.

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Speaker 1: We have Justin in Kansas City, and that should serve

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Speaker 1: as a reminder that even if you’re listening in the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City metro, let us know and I will read it.

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Speaker 1: So Justin in Kansas City. Thomas from Niagara Falls out

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Speaker 1: there in Bills Country. Love that. Cliff in Hawaii, Tommy

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Speaker 1: in Fargo, North Dakota, a listener in Massachusetts, and Decline

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Speaker 1: in Saint Louis decline’s a cool name. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Then also lots of declarations. So as a reminder here,

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Speaker 1: if you are somewhere in the world and you want

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Speaker 1: to plant your Chief’s Kingdom flag and say where I

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Speaker 1: live is sovereignty, it is Chiefs Kingdom sovereignty. You gotta

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Speaker 1: do it. We have more of those. So I mentioned

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Speaker 1: that we don’t have that many international listeners this time around.

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Speaker 1: We do have some in this bucket of people. So

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Speaker 1: we have Greg He declared Winnipeg, Manitoba as Kingdom North Central.

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Speaker 1: You’ve mentioned the Winnipeg fans before. Yeah, they come to

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Speaker 1: every game, every game, every home game. They’re crazy. We’ve

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Speaker 1: got Mike. He declared Manchester, New York as Chiefs Kingdom

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Speaker 1: in the Finger Lakes. This creative A listener declared American

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Speaker 1: Samoa as Arrowhead Samoa Kingdom South Pacific. Love that. Raymond

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Speaker 1: declared Independence County, Arkansas for the Kingdom John and Wichita.

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Speaker 1: He’s a repeat defender and claims Wichita as Kingdom South

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Speaker 1: Central Anthony. He declared. He listens from all over the

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Speaker 1: country and declares America as Chiefs Country and America’s team

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Speaker 1: the entire country, the entire country that’s driving all over

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Speaker 1: the place. Hey go bigger, go home. Yeah, so all

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Speaker 1: of America is declared for Chiefs Kingdom. And he also

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Speaker 1: shouted out Matt Montgomery, who works in our business development

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Speaker 1: department here at the Chiefs. I get Matt’s emails a

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Speaker 1: lot and vice versa, so I know Matt the double MS.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. But shouting out Matt Montgomery

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Speaker 1: on DTK, we have Travis. He claimed at Denton, Texas

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Speaker 1: as Arrowhead North Texas. Justin declared Lakeland of Florida as

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Speaker 1: little bit Southeast Chiefs Kingdom like that, and then Chris

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Speaker 1: looking for these declarations or where you’re listening from, I’m

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Speaker 1: looking everywhere, so like Twitter, dms on Twitter in general,

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Speaker 1: a few days ago and realized we have some people

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Speaker 1: from like November who declared where they’re listening from, and

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Speaker 1: I didn’t read them. So I’m gonna do that right

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Speaker 1: now because you deserve it. So Brian declared Parker, Colorado

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Speaker 1: as Arrowhead mile high. It’s great. And then also we

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Speaker 1: had listeners in Springfield, John in Springfield, Coach Beam in Flush, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: Shingle House, Pennsylvania. Just let us know. So. Anyway, we

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Speaker 1: country and this country and around the world is interested

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two NFL draft. By the way,

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Speaker 1: these are our draft hats for the twenty twenty two season,

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Speaker 1: available at the Pro Shop. I’m sure. So if you’re

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Speaker 1: got your hat on, because to me, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the more historic potential drafts for the Chiefs for

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Speaker 1: sure in ten years. When you look at it, you

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Speaker 1: go back, there’s most picks the Chiefs of head since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. To think about how impactful the

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen draft was only because it set the tone.

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Speaker 1: It was putting up the red iron in the foundation

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Speaker 1: straight division titles in a Super Bowl championship. That was

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Speaker 1: the start of things. This feels like a restart of

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Speaker 1: things with the twenty twenty two draft. We start with

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Speaker 1: our first v and that is volume. So twelve picks

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Speaker 1: in this draft. Everybody knows that. Six picks in the

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Speaker 1: first one hundred three. That’s where this draft gets significant.

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Speaker 1: But from a sheer volume standpoint, it hasn’t been this

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Speaker 1: way in fourteen seasons. Yeah, it really hasn’t. And for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, we’ve been so focused on free agency or

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Speaker 1: retaining the players that we already have for so long,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing because that means you have

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Speaker 1: pretty good players. But this is the most important draft,

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Speaker 1: I think in the Coach Read era, besides maybe twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen because that was a full reset. But really, this

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Speaker 1: is an opportunity for the Chiefs to replenish this roster

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Speaker 1: we already have so many great things in place in

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, the best quarterback in football. Coach Read, a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame head coach, You’ve always great things already,

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Speaker 1: and of a chance here with this volume of picks.

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Speaker 1: Twelve picks in this draft, the most of any team

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Speaker 1: to really find some good impact players to replenish this

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Speaker 1: roster for years to come. You mentioned those six picks

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Speaker 1: in the first three rounds, in the first one hundred

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Speaker 1: and the Packers each have five besides the Packers and

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Speaker 1: kind of the Eagles. All of those teams are rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: so it makes sense they have a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: But how often does a team that has been to

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Speaker 1: four consecutive conference title games have six picks in the

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Speaker 1: top one oh three. Just doesn’t happen very often. You

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Speaker 1: top one hundred and five selections, which one hundred and

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Speaker 1: was two thousand and eight. They picked seven players in

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Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen eighty one to find a

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Speaker 1: this does not happen very often. And the hope for

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Speaker 1: find guys like Brandon Albert or Jamal Charles or Brandon Flowers.

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Speaker 1: so you don’t have to hit on all of them,

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Speaker 1: but you hope that you can get three to four

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Speaker 1: We’ll get on that more as we get into this,

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Speaker 1: but just to go down the line here, the twenty ninth, thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: Maybe not. We also know how Veach is man. He’s

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Speaker 1: going a thousand miles an hour. But what this does

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, it does a lot of things. Now

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Speaker 1: let’s put this in historical context too, even further, for

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Speaker 1: the past five seasons, the Chiefs have had exactly six picks.

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Speaker 1: It’s been six picks, six pick, six picks in this rhythm.

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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, you’re doubling that going

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Speaker 1: you want, equity, currency, capital, but you’ve got that for

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Speaker 1: a chance to move. Let’s just take the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 1: Most of the mock drafts have the Chiefs thinking about

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Speaker 1: moving up, bundling picks and moving up to get a guy,

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Speaker 1: that’s so so valuable. So the Chiefs could go into

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Speaker 1: and that’s great. You have twelve new players coming into

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom, probably all really good players, right, players that

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Speaker 1: you weigh is it worth it, and that’s for Brett

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Speaker 1: future drafts, and you don’t want to do that because

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Speaker 1: that hampers your future guys that you can pick up.

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Speaker 1: So for the Chiefs to have the flexibility in this

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Speaker 1: that they like, and if they’re there, if they’re five

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom winning the twenty twenty two NFL Draft with

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Speaker 1: volume value victory. The other part of volume here is

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Speaker 1: also evaluating your competition and you have to find willing

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Speaker 1: trade partners. Think about the blockbuster trade to get Mahomes

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Speaker 1: that had to be maneuvered. But you’ve also got to

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Speaker 1: the good news, like you said, is that this draft

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Speaker 1: is full of really good receivers. It’s a good draft, Tanita,

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Speaker 1: and to have lots of picks in the top three rounds.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Miller from ESPN is one of the best

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Speaker 1: draft analysts out there. I caught up with him a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago and he had nine receivers in his

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Speaker 1: top forty players. Overall, a quarter of his top forty

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Speaker 1: players are receivers. So that’s good news for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: When you have all these picks early on. What’s interesting

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Speaker 1: though about this class is that I don’t think anyone

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Speaker 1: can agree on who the best receiver is. In years past,

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Speaker 1: there’s one guy at the top, like Jamar Chase, you

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Speaker 1: know that he’s the unquestioned number one, and then a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other guys that everyone argues about. But in

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Speaker 1: this draft, I don’t know who it is. Is it

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Speaker 1: Drake London. He’s gaining steam recently, big receiver out of USC.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he’d be awesome in the Chiefs offense, but

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Speaker 1: I don’t know if he’s going to get out of

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Speaker 1: the top ten now. But for the Jason Williams if

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Speaker 1: he did not have the ACL, I was going to

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Speaker 1: mention that because Jamison Williams if he didn’t tear his ACL,

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Speaker 1: just like David A. Jobo if he didn’t blow out

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Speaker 1: his achilles at his pro day, and even more so

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Speaker 1: because I think a Joebo was maybe a top fifteen pick,

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Speaker 1: top twelve pick. Jamison Williams is probably a top eight

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft if he’s entirely healthy. Williams is

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Speaker 1: the top deep threat in all college football. Last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was absolutely electric. Can you imagine Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes’s arm with Jamison williams speed and ability to stretch

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Speaker 1: the field, and does he kind of fit what we

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Speaker 1: were talking about where he could play the slot, he

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Speaker 1: could play the X. He can move around now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he kind of fits that mold of an Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid receiver. He does. I mean, yeah, of course the

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Speaker 1: big plays are the exciting plays, but if you watch

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Speaker 1: in red zone, he’s super effective too because he’s so

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Speaker 1: quick with his feet. So Jamison Williams, if you can

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Speaker 1: stum at the fact that he probably won’t be available

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Speaker 1: until I don’t know, late September, early October, and it

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Speaker 1: might take a full year for him to recover. If

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Speaker 1: you’re patient with that, he could be a great value

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Speaker 1: pick wherever you could find him in the first round,

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Speaker 1: if he falls to twenty nine, or if you want

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Speaker 1: to trade up. But there’s also guys like Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson rather from Ohio State. For the longest time,

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Speaker 1: he was considered the top receiver in the draft, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like Drake London has kind of passed him,

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Speaker 1: but he’s a really good player. Then you have Chris Alava,

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Speaker 1: also from Ohio State, had a great combine. He’s early

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Speaker 1: exciting player as well, great speed, great route running acumen.

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Speaker 1: And then some interesting players like Trailing Burks and George Pickens.

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Speaker 1: Burks from Arkansas and Pickens from Georgia, bigger bodied players

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Speaker 1: who also have speed and tremendous catch radiuses. So depending

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Speaker 1: on the kind of receiver you want in this draft,

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Speaker 1: there’s lots of options. And that the Chiefs don’t go

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Speaker 1: receiver in the first round, that’s okay because they still

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Speaker 1: have lots of guys that can go get Guys like

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Speaker 1: Jalen Tilbert from South Alabama. I like him a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the second round. Mel Kiper and his most

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Speaker 1: recent mock draft has the Chiefs taking Jalen Tilbert. Kind

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Speaker 1: of a raw player who didn’t face a ton of

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Speaker 1: top competition, but I mean was incredible. He had like

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Speaker 1: sixteen deep receptions last year. It was like fifth and

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Speaker 1: all of college football. And Christian Watson from North Dakota

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Speaker 1: State is another popular name that I’ve been seeing a lot,

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Speaker 1: big physical receiver, played at a smaller school, but North

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Speaker 1: Dakota States like the Alabama of their league, so basically, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they run. So we could go on and on about

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, but lots of options for the Chiefs. Christian

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Speaker 1: Watson is really interesting because he wasn’t he was under

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Speaker 1: the radar, and then he blows up at the Combine

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Then he pops a four three six at

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Speaker 1: the Combine and he’s another guy because of his intelligence.

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Speaker 1: I think that can play the every position in this offense.

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Speaker 1: You know, the other dynamic here is we push on

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Speaker 1: and to look at some other parts of this draft

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Speaker 1: in our value segment here of this defending the Kingdom

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Speaker 1: is that, you know, the NFL is interesting. Somebody goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: well that’s really cool. I think we’ll do that. It’s

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Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel factor. To me, everybody saw the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers last year, go wow, that’s cool. They use

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. Not only is all the wide receiver positions, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he’s also a running back and they see that power combo.

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Speaker 1: So in the case of the USC receiver, I think

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Speaker 1: that’s a case the Arkansas receiver the same. Every kind

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Speaker 1: of wants Many people want, well, where’s Deebo Samuel in

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Speaker 1: this draft? Well, I think for years people who are

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Speaker 1: trying to find their version of Tyreek kill right, or

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Speaker 1: trying to find Travis Kelsey, trying to find that guy,

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Speaker 1: and the reality is there’s only one that guy, and

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Speaker 1: there’s only one Samuel. I mean, what an incredible Swiss

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Speaker 1: Army knife he is. But when you look at some

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Speaker 1: of these body types, guys like Trailing Burks who have

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Speaker 1: great speed. I mean, he reaches like twenty three miles

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Speaker 1: per hour or something one time last season for Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: but he’s like two hundred and twenty pounds. It doesn’t

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Speaker 1: make any sense how you can have that much power

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Speaker 1: and that speed. But athletes nowadays they just have it

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Speaker 1: in Trailing Burks. I think about coach Reid and how

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Speaker 1: creative he is an offense. Trailing Burks could be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch to see what he could

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Speaker 1: do with him. All Right. The third part of the

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Speaker 1: value to me is I call it the sneed factor

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Speaker 1: because we like to categorize these guys. This guy’s a safety,

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Speaker 1: this guy’s a corner, this guy’s an edge, this guy’s

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Speaker 1: an inside linebacker. And what we have seen in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League evolve over time, and we’ve seen it

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Speaker 1: for sure with the Chiefs are these combo He’s really

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff, and we saw that with

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Speaker 1: Laxarius sneed a corner start outing at Louisiana Tech, then

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Speaker 1: he goes to safety, then he comes to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: One of the best slot corners in the entire National

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Speaker 1: Football League who can also play on the outside. Everybody’s

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Speaker 1: looking to or most people are looking at, what are

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs going to do at corner? What’s gonna happen

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Speaker 1: at corner? And when you look now at the roster

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Speaker 1: as we do this defending in the Kingdom episode, there’s

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Speaker 1: not a lot of names at corner setting there, but

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Speaker 1: I put I’ll call it this sneed factor, and it’s

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Speaker 1: the Spags factor too, of what he likes at those

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Speaker 1: the corner sneed position. Kayer Elam of Florida comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: A bigger guy that can play the slot corner. Another

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Speaker 1: guy is Jalen Petrie of Baylor played slot almost entirely

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Speaker 1: for the Baylor Bears. Bigger, fast enough, powerful, Spags wants

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Speaker 1: his corners to play the run. If you think about it,

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Speaker 1: they are all also among the top five tacklers or

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Speaker 1: five to seven tacklers on the Chiefs every year. So

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Speaker 1: the small I’m just going to cover fast corner doesn’t

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Speaker 1: seem to fit in SPAGS system. Yeah. I think about

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Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller as well, because Kendall was a corner for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs then got hurt and came back as a safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you want that versatility in your defensive backs. It

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Speaker 1: truly is defensive backs with Spags. And I like Kayer

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Speaker 1: Elam a lot because when you watch him. He mentioned

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Speaker 1: his tackling against the run. Listen, I know it’s obvious

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Speaker 1: every football player should want to tackle, but not all

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Speaker 1: corners want to tackle. If you watch film, you realize

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Speaker 1: that that not all corners are interested in playing the

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Speaker 1: run and tackling. Kyer Elam enjoys it. You can tell.

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Speaker 1: I mean he just goes right after guys. You want

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Speaker 1: that in a corner if you’re Steve Spagnolo. Dax Hill

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Speaker 1: from Michigan is also interesting. He’s a guy that played

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Speaker 1: primarily slot corner for the Wolverines, but projects because he

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00:26:28,359 –> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: has great speed as a safety in the NFL, but

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Speaker 1: he can do a little bit of everything you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Joe and Petrie like him a lot. And also Lewis

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Speaker 1: Scene from Georgia, another player from the University of Georgia.

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00:26:39,400 –> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: He can do just a little bit of everything. Great tackler.

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Speaker 1: He missed like six tackles his entire career. He went

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Speaker 1: after guys he enjoyed tackling, but also a ballhawk when

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Speaker 1: playing the open field. Very hard to find players that

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Speaker 1: are great in the open field in terms of coverage

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Speaker 1: but also are great tacklers in space, and Lewis Scene

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Speaker 1: is really both of those things. Martin Emerson Mississippi State

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. He has some good height

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Speaker 1: and also there’s like some project kind of players that

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Speaker 1: maybe played at some smaller schools but have truly freaky

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Speaker 1: athletic and tangibles. So Zion mccohum from sam Houston State.

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Speaker 1: He’s six foot four and ran a four three three

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Speaker 1: forty yard dash. And Tarik Woolen from UTSA six foot

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Speaker 1: four and ran a four two six, Like what’s in

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Speaker 1: the water there. I don’t understand how that’s even possible,

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Speaker 1: And maybe those players are still kind of raw. Woolen

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Speaker 1: I believe as a former wide receiver, but you get

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Speaker 1: them into your system, you can’t teach speed and height,

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00:27:35,960 –> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: and you think maybe we can work with this guy.

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00:27:37,680 –> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: Those guys will be available in the later rounds. But

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Speaker 1: some names to know, and some of it’s football and

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Speaker 1: how it’s evolved, Like and you go to any high

581
00:27:43,359 –> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: school game, most of them you’re gonna see four wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Those receivers turn into safeties and corners in college and

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Speaker 1: that’s why these guys are running four three threes and

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Speaker 1: four two six is another couple that caught my attention.

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Speaker 1: Jay La Armor Davis of Alabama a bigger safety kind

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Speaker 1: of corner combo and mentioned scene of Georgia. Nick Cross

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00:28:02,480 –> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: of Maryland is another guy that gets my attention because

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Speaker 1: what else is in this category when you’re looking for

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00:28:07,800 –> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs is Dave Tobe gets involved in

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Speaker 1: this discussion in the sneed factor because some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: particularly where you’re picking now is or the fact that

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00:28:17,840 –> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: these guys could become four core special teams guys right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, which leads me into the final

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Speaker 1: part of our value part of this podcast. I think

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom volume value victory, and that is the returner position.

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Speaker 1: If you think of a guy that can be a okay,

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Speaker 1: a smaller corner here, but end up being your return

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Speaker 1: or a guy like Marcus Jones of Houston who has

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Speaker 1: been compared to Dante Hall. Yeah, okay, Now, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you get your dime corner but also becomes

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Speaker 1: your primary returner. That allows McCole Hardman then to focus

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Speaker 1: even more on the wide receiver position. Another guy on

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00:28:52,680 –> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: the other side would be like Calvin Austin and Memphis

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00:28:55,600 –> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: small guy thought to be a gadget dude. Right, okay,

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00:28:59,000 –> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: you could see Andy Reid being created with him. But

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Speaker 1: also think about getting a returner in this drift. If

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Speaker 1: you were bored at work right now or whatever you’re doing,

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00:29:08,640 –> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: as long as you’re not driving, if you are somewhere

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00:29:10,360 –> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: where you can watch highlights, look up Marcus Jones from Houston,

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00:29:13,680 –> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: because he will put a smile on your face. He’s

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Speaker 1: like five foot eight, okay, but he is electrifying in

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Speaker 1: the return game. And you mentioned it. He was compared

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00:29:21,360 –> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: to Dante Hall by I think Lantzerline from NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He’s awesome, I mean just awesome in the open field.

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus called him the best return man in

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Speaker 1: this draft, and you can find him in maybe the

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Speaker 1: third or the fourth round. But that’s not it. So

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Speaker 1: he doesn’t have great height. Sure, he’s solely a slot

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Speaker 1: corner in the NFL. But if you watch like the

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Speaker 1: energy in the fight this dude plays with, I mean

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Speaker 1: it makes up for that height in a big way.

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Speaker 1: He’s always hustling, he’s always giving it his all. He’s

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch, and he was a

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00:29:49,160 –> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: playmaker at Houston and in the NFL. When teams are

625
00:29:52,760 –> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: trotting out four wide receiver sets on a regular basis,

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Speaker 1: it doesn’t hurt to have a guy like Marcus Jones

627
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Speaker 1: and maybe the Dime come in there and give you

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Speaker 1: really good snaps on defense in addition to what he’s

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Speaker 1: doing as a return man. So Marcus Jones really exciting player.

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Speaker 1: Check him out if you haven’t already another GAF if

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Speaker 1: you want to go like Nil Davis and go retro

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Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, when you look at a returner would

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Speaker 1: be a Zamir White of Georgia, bigger running back, but

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Speaker 1: he’s returned kicks and you think about, you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: bring back Nil Davis a little bit and enjoy that

636
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Speaker 1: running back room also had a block punt against Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: As we close out now our victory portion of our

638
00:30:29,440 –> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you look at volume. This

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Speaker 1: is very interesting draft, historic draft potentially for the Chief’s

640
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Speaker 1: value in this draft overall three victory. How do you

641
00:30:36,840 –> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty two NFL Draft? First of all,

642
00:30:38,960 –> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: you won’t know Monday. Right Monday after the draft, everybody’s

643
00:30:42,440 –> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna put out grades. And this team won this draft

644
00:30:44,720 –> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: and this team didn’t. I mean, if you go back

645
00:30:47,600 –> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: and revisit those over the past, let’s say ten years,

646
00:30:50,520 –> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: you’re going to well, that was ridiculous. You just can’t.

647
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Speaker 1: But with this draft, and go back to how we

648
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Speaker 1: began this podcast, this draft will not be graded until

649
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Speaker 1: the second or third year with these guys, because to

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Speaker 1: your point’s a good one. Let’s say you keep eight picks,

651
00:31:04,880 –> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: if six of those guys hit and become lynch pins,

652
00:31:07,480 –> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: then look at it in four years because again the

653
00:31:10,120 –> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs are kind of redoing some things here. But do

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to win this draft by getting

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Speaker 1: starters not only immediate help in twenty twenty two, but

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Speaker 1: guys who become the centerpieces of your team in the

657
00:31:22,600 –> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: three to four years ahead. Absolutely. And I kind of

658
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Speaker 1: hit this a few weeks ago in our last episode,

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Speaker 1: but I’m going to expand on it again because I

660
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Speaker 1: think it’s really important. These twelve picks for the Chiefs

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00:31:32,000 –> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: are very important for the Chiefs in a vacuum, but

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Speaker 1: also in the context of the larger AFC and where

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Speaker 1: the AFC is going right now. The AFC is loaded.

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Speaker 1: We all know that there’s a whole bunch of really

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Speaker 1: good teams in the AFC with really good quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: they’re all going all in right now to beat one team,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Because the Chiefs have been the team hosting

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Speaker 1: the AFC tattle game for four straight years. Other teams

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Speaker 1: are getting tired of that. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: the context of the whole league right now and the

671
00:31:57,960 –> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: quarterback contract situation, it’s really worth talking about. So think

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Speaker 1: about some of the teams that the Chiefs are trying

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Speaker 1: to hold off in the AFC. So the Buffalo Bills

674
00:32:07,360 –> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: are the probably the best example. I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: and Chiefs are a great young rivalry in the NFL

676
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Speaker 1: right now, and the Chiefs of the upper hand in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. So far, we’ve seen that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: desperately trying to get to a Super Bowl before Josh

679
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Speaker 1: Allen’s money kicks in in his new deal. He is

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Speaker 1: making sixteen million dollars against the cap This year, that’s

681
00:32:26,560 –> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: nothing for a player of Josh Allen’s caliber. Next year

682
00:32:29,640 –> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: it’s forty million, and it’s forty million just about every

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Speaker 1: season for four years after that. And they’re also paying

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Speaker 1: Von Miller and Stefon Diggs twenty million each against the

685
00:32:39,080 –> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: cap every year from twenty twenty three to two twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I know you can move money around, I know that

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Speaker 1: the cap is manageable, but I’m just saying, when you’re

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Speaker 1: paying those three players that much money, something has to give. Eventually.

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Speaker 1: You can’t keep going out and going all in when

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Speaker 1: you’re paying those three players that much money. Look at

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. If you look at historical precedent on when

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Speaker 1: these players get paid, the Chargers are probably going to

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Speaker 1: have to pay Justin Herbert after this upcoming season. He’s

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Speaker 1: going to want a ton of money. If you look

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Speaker 1: at some of these other contracts that are being handed out,

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Speaker 1: most likely a lot of guaranteed money. So when you’re

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Speaker 1: paying your quarterback that much, and particularly if it’s a

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00:33:15,680 –> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: shorter deal, we’ll see what kind of deal he does.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes ten year deal is very unique. We’re seeing

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Speaker 1: usually three to four year deals for these quarterbacks where

701
00:33:22,440 –> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: it resets every several years. But they can’t go out

702
00:33:25,880 –> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: and signed JC Jackson and trade for Khalil Mack and

703
00:33:28,440 –> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: resign Mike Williams when you’re paying your quarterback that much money.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals same thing, probably going to pay Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: after this upcoming season, and the Ravens have to pay

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson after this season or franchise him because he’ll

707
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Speaker 1: be a free agent. So it goes on and on

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Speaker 1: and on. We saw Derek Carr got paid a bunch

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Speaker 1: of money just last week. When these other teams have

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Speaker 1: to pay their quarterback, the Chiefs are going to be

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Speaker 1: in a position where their quarterback is already under contract

712
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Speaker 1: for a manageable amount, and they have just drafted a

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Speaker 1: ton of players and the top three rounds of this

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Speaker 1: draft who are hopefully making a big impact and are

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Speaker 1: totally under contract and manageable for several years. I’m telling

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Speaker 1: you that the way the AFC is going, it’s a

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00:34:07,560 –> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: great opportunity in this draft for the Chiefs if they

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Speaker 1: can hit to maintain dominance over this conference for a

719
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Speaker 1: long time. Just the way everything’s lining up, So it’s

720
00:34:16,480 –> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: a big draft for those reasons. Got to find some

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Speaker 1: impact players because it could extend this window for maybe

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Speaker 1: ten years. The Chiefs already a second base in this

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the dynamics here, because the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are basically going through that now once Patrick Mahomes ended

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00:34:32,200 –> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the second part of his contract here sending the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: for making that adjustment. So for all of those teams

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Speaker 1: in the division, and again when you see these contract deals,

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Speaker 1: peel through all of the fluff and the frosting, look

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Speaker 1: at the guaranteed money and you mention it. With the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: you get two guys forty million guaranteed. Forty million guaranteed

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Speaker 1: in these deals. That’s where you look at as far

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Speaker 1: as the impact of having because that doesn’t go away.

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Speaker 1: You can amortize that all your mut that is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the books. Okay. So that being said,

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Speaker 1: for those teams, and here’s the point we’re trying to

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Speaker 1: make when they’re now in the position because they’re chasing

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs who are setting a second base already, will

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Speaker 1: they have twelve picks when they’re setting there making the

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Speaker 1: adjustment to go to the second phase of those deals.

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Speaker 1: And that’s where the Chiefs are at this point. But

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Speaker 1: you’ve got to make it happen with the picks. I’m

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Speaker 1: going to end the episode this way with my two

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00:35:25,040 –> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: favorite names of this draft, because for the Chiefs to

744
00:35:27,719 –> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, it’s got to

745
00:35:30,520 –> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: be Sauce in smoke, all right, Sauce Gardener’s gonna be

746
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: wig one, right. The reason Cincinnati was in the college

747
00:35:37,080 –> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: football playoff. Look at the dudes they have in this draft.

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Speaker 1: They got them all over the place. Cook Okay, And

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Speaker 1: the other thing I didn’t mention is one of the

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00:35:44,200 –> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: things that could take this draft off the rail is

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00:35:46,920 –> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: that somebody’s gonna get enamored with the quarterback. I think

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00:35:49,440 –> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: it’s gonna be Malik Willis of Liberty. Somebody maybe Seattle here.

753
00:35:53,640 –> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Seattle’s gonna trade up to get it done right. They’re

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00:35:55,640 –> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: not sitting there at the first round pick. But Malik

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00:35:57,719 –> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Willis of Liberty started at Auburn. Gives me a Russell

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00:36:00,920 –> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Wilson kind of Look, there’s even a little bit of

757
00:36:03,560 –> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: a right handed Michael Vick. He’s not that athletic, but

758
00:36:06,520 –> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: there’s some intrigue. Somebody make an intrigue with him and

759
00:36:09,640 –> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: jump up and then all of a sudden things kind

760
00:36:11,440 –> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: of go off the rails here. At times during this

761
00:36:13,719 –> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: draft offseason process, we’ve seen the experts come out and

762
00:36:16,520 –> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: say I don’t have a single quarterback in my top thirty.

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00:36:19,840 –> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Now we’re kind of seeing these guys creep back into

764
00:36:22,120 –> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: the mock drafts, but the reality is at least one

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00:36:24,560 –> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: and probably two will go in the first round. The

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00:36:27,320 –> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: last time a quarterback didn’t go in the first round

767
00:36:30,000 –> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety six. It’s only happened five times since

768
00:36:33,280 –> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: the merger. It’s gonna happen. Someone’s gonna take Malique Willis,

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Speaker 1: and probably someone’s going to take Kenny Pickett, and maybe

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00:36:39,920 –> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: somebody takes Sam Howell from North Carolina the Panthers were

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00:36:42,760 –> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: meeting with him reportedly today, or Matt Corral from All

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00:36:45,840 –> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: Miss I don’t know. This always happens with the draft,

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00:36:48,560 –> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: where guys are taken that you maybe didn’t even expect

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00:36:51,480 –> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: because a certain team falls in love with them. It

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00:36:53,719 –> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: only takes one team and that helps the Chiefs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Malique Willis goes nineteen to New Orleans, for example,

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00:37:00,280 –> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: that’s who lancezer Line has him going to in his

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00:37:02,160 –> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: latest mock draft on NFL dot com. Then that’s Kenny

779
00:37:05,320 –> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Pickett going twenty to Pittsburgh. It pushes everybody else down.

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00:37:08,800 –> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: That helps the Chiefs. It is up to me. I

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00:37:11,120 –> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: hope four quarterbacks go in the first round because that

782
00:37:13,440 –> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: only does us favors. So we’ll see what happens with that.

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00:37:16,320 –> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: But there’s always a team that you didn’t expect, like

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00:37:19,440 –> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in twenty seventeen training up to take a quarterback.

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00:37:23,040 –> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: No one saw that coming, right, so it could happen,

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00:37:26,080 –> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: and I welcome it because if teams are taking quarterbacks

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00:37:28,960 –> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: in the first round, that means good news for the Chiefs.

788
00:37:31,000 –> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: A player that maybe wouldn’t have been available originally at

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00:37:33,920 –> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: edge or wide receiver or a different position will be

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00:37:36,719 –> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: at twenty nine or thirty. Somebody’s gonna make a run.

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00:37:39,000 –> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: It’s either gonna be or it’s gonna be the wide

792
00:37:40,680 –> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: receiver run that pushes the edges down. It’s either going

793
00:37:43,680 –> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: to be an edge run that pushes the wide receiver’s down.

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00:37:46,360 –> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Somebody’s gonna be enamored with Willis and take him, just saying,

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00:37:50,280 –> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: but Smoke and Sauce, I got off I got off

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00:37:52,560 –> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: of target here just because Sauce Gardener, man, what a name?

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00:37:56,040 –> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: But Smoke Monday the safety of the Auburn Tigers. Baby,

798
00:38:00,000 –> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: anybody that gets Smoke Monday, If the Chiefs gets Smoke Monday,

799
00:38:04,360 –> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: it’ll be too good. But don’t you think for the

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00:38:06,320 –> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs to win the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, and again,

801
00:38:09,960 –> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: we won’t know the grade overall if they’re gonna win

802
00:38:12,120 –> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: it or not until two or three years after this draft,

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00:38:15,400 –> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: they need some sauce and smoke. I’m gonna call Brett

804
00:38:18,320 –> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: on draft night and say, Brett, listen, can you imagine

805
00:38:21,400 –> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: Mitch’s touchdown calls? Smoke Monday has a pick six to

806
00:38:24,920 –> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: the end zone, can you imagine? And maybe he can

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00:38:27,239 –> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: weigh that in his own mind against you know, all

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00:38:29,000 –> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: of his research. He’s a good player, by the way,

809
00:38:31,400 –> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: He’s not just a goober. Yeah, so Smoke Monday can play.

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00:38:35,320 –> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: He’s Matt mcmahllan and I Mitchell just get ready for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Again, this is a

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00:38:39,960 –> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: draft where the Chiefs have volume, historically a volume of

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Speaker 1: picks here too, there’s a lot of value in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Three victory. The Chiefs, in this next phase of getting

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Speaker 1: things done, want to win the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,

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00:38:53,400 –> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: And yes, a draft, hopefully of sauce and smoke. Touchdown

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00:39:00,280 –> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: set down, and the celebration begins in their head.