The Andy Reid Bowl | Defending The Kingdom 9/30

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Chiefs Reporter Matt McMullen – plus various special guests – break down the latest news and storylines in Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Thank advantage on the day. Will you get opportunity in

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Speaker 1: it one tuxdown Kansas City, The Chiefs all right in

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Speaker 1: the thick of a baby. Hi everyone, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitchell is with you

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs, along with Chiefs reporter Matt McMullin,

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Speaker 1: and the man would call the shop the Barber Shop,

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Speaker 1: the Spider made Sean Barber, ten year NFL veteran and

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Speaker 1: now leader in the community. And with the Chiefs ambassadors,

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Speaker 1: this edition of the Defending the Kingdom will be called

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Speaker 1: the Andy Reid Bowl. You see bowl games, right, these

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Speaker 1: college bowl games, they have the little patches up there.

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Speaker 1: Well you got the Super Bowl fifty four patch, your cool, Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: So we decided to go all Andy Reid Bowl. Here

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Speaker 1: we’re going to talk about one of the greatest coaches

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Speaker 1: in the history of football, not just the NFL. A

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Speaker 1: reminder that the Defending the Kingdom show is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by three sixty Vodka, the Kansas City’s hometown vodka

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Speaker 1: and the official vodka of the Chief Kingdom. And before

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Speaker 1: we jump into Andy Reid, here we have another announcement

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Speaker 1: to Nate make It’s a guy that I’ve worked with

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Speaker 1: for only twenty eight seasons now, but the executive producer

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Speaker 1: beyond that, Dan Israel, will be inducted this weekend in

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Speaker 1: the Kansas Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame. We’ve all

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Speaker 1: worked for Spartacus at one time or another, but the

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Speaker 1: dude is a genius and to get I’m so excited

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Speaker 1: he’s into the hall man to see him on so

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Speaker 1: many different levels from a player standpoint and then being

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Speaker 1: able to do production behind the scenes and watch him

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Speaker 1: work both ways. Like you’re saying, Spartacus, that is definitely

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Speaker 1: the terminology because he’s a leader of men. He works

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Speaker 1: behind the camera, he produces some phenomenal footwork, phenomenal footage.

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Speaker 1: a production team. Dan Israel, my hat’s off to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just such a great leader. He’s been for so long,

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Speaker 1: There’s a lot of turn over in sports, people come

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Speaker 1: a huge member of this team. So well deserved and

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Speaker 1: so happy for him. He’s impacted the Olympics, the League

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Speaker 1: also been a cancer battler. So prayers up for Dan.

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Speaker 1: But congratulations to Dan Israel aka Spartacus for making the

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Speaker 1: Kans Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Also, and shop

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Speaker 1: people now defending the Kingdom’s global We’ve had Bolivia, we’ve

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Speaker 1: had the African continent, every continent but Antarctica Antarctica. So

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Speaker 1: telling you. But you’ve got a few more. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: our comment section on the last episode, so we have David.

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Speaker 1: He said, thanks for the shout out. He’s in Australia,

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Speaker 1: so he appreciated the shout out. David. One more shout

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Speaker 1: out for you down in Australia. We have a Venetius

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Speaker 1: So we have Europe covered. But then also, you know,

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Speaker 1: Also a lot of listeners right here in Chiefs Kingdom, right,

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Speaker 1: The three of us are talking about Andy Reid. We

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Speaker 1: are saying, this is the Andy Reid bull. That’s our

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Speaker 1: commemorative big red patch for this game, the Chiefs against

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Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame. Now we’re going to

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Speaker 1: He didn’t make the play. Let’s get a new player.

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Speaker 1: Andy has been a guy that he doesn’t want to

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Speaker 1: the field. He treats men like men. There’s a level

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Speaker 1: All he wants to do is put you in an

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Speaker 1: He wants to eliminate stressors, eliminate distractions, and let guys

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Speaker 1: that because there’s not many coaches that see that the

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Speaker 1: ego driven organization as far as the NFL as a whole,

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Speaker 1: And when you’re the head coach of one of thirty

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Speaker 1: of football, it’s very easy to let your pride get

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Speaker 1: confidence in this team moving forward after a couple of

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Speaker 1: couple of tough losses because he always says, hey, that’s

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Speaker 1: my responsibility, we’ll clean that up. He’s never too high,

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Speaker 1: never too low. I said that, I’m rewind after the game.

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Speaker 1: If the team’s winning the super Bowl, he’s excited, of course,

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Speaker 1: so he has that middle ground. He’s always even keel,

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Speaker 1: be just fine moving forward, I think, which is why

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Speaker 1: he’s a great troubleshooter. You and I earlier on Kingdom

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Speaker 1: of Conversations in fourteen, DeVito and DJ go down with

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Speaker 1: Chief started and two. He rallies to go nine and seven.

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Speaker 1: Coach Reid does fifteen one five start, He wins ten

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Speaker 1: the first time in a generation. Seventeen, they lose six

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Speaker 1: the division nineteen. We all think about Unicorn’s candy games rates. Right,

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Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowls. That’s your point that

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Speaker 1: the biggest compliment I’ve been able to give Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: is he gets the human spirit. He gets the human spirit.

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Speaker 1: He grew up in Los Angeles. He did not grow

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Speaker 1: up in Malibu. Okay, or Beverly Hills. He went to

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Speaker 1: John Marshall High School, multicultural high school, right, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that he has but he gets everything. He gets

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Speaker 1: I mean, he’s an amazing person in that regard. He

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Speaker 1: So to put this game in context, and again, if

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Speaker 1: and ready to go. But let’s go back and put

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. Let’s take the Eagles when they

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Right, he had been with far if they’d

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Speaker 1: fifteen years prior to Andy Reid’s of arrival, okay, one

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Speaker 1: hundred twenty six games, lost one hundred twenty six games,

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Speaker 1: But your overall comment, let’s go back to him transforming

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Speaker 1: it is one Shawn Barber. Your thoughts, well, it’s just

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Speaker 1: crazy what he was able to do in Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 1: it’s much like what he’s been able to do in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, where he truly has raised an entire generation

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Speaker 1: And for me, so I’m twenty eight years old, when

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Speaker 1: as far as I’m concerned, when I was growing up

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Speaker 1: as a football fan, the Eagles are always in it.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are a great football team, and you think

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Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson, Coach Reid was the ripple effect of that.

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Speaker 1: we want to set that trap and let that offense

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Speaker 1: walk into it, and it’s time to set that trap

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Speaker 1: off you need to be able to not just knock

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Speaker 1: the ball down, but you need to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: make that picks and run and run back for a

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Speaker 1: pick six. And there was only certain amount of guys

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Speaker 1: they felt like we’re cable of playing that position and

419
00:19:49,200 –> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: being putting that man. I played with some amazing guys

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Speaker 1: on that defense, but we had at such a level

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Speaker 1: of trust on all three levels, and that trust came

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Speaker 1: from Andy and Andy reid Man. He gifted us a

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Speaker 1: sense of trust, camaraderie, a sense of oneness in that

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Speaker 1: defense that was unlike any of the team I played for.

425
00:20:09,760 –> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 1: It shows up in your stats. I listen to these matts. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, the star Man’s Shop started all

427
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Speaker 1: sixteen games, sixteen sixty nine tackles. Okay, your career high.

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00:20:19,800 –> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: You had a sack, two interceptions, including an eighty yard

429
00:20:23,160 –> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: pick six at Dallas at Dallas Cowboys. Was it who

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00:20:26,560 –> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: was it against? Drew Bledsoell? No, I guess as the

431
00:20:28,280 –> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: old Dallas coach. I think listen against the Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: j I think it was Jason. Okay, Wow, did you

433
00:20:34,200 –> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: totally know who it was? You know it? Two forced fumbles,

434
00:20:37,880 –> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: three fumble recoveries. More importantly, they win a divisional playoff match.

435
00:20:41,560 –> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: They get a buye beat Atlanta and divisional playoff game

436
00:20:44,680 –> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: and lose narrowly to Tampa Bay, who goes on to

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00:20:47,480 –> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: win it Gruden taking Tony Dungee’s team. But anyway, it’s

438
00:20:51,560 –> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. The point is, um, you got

439
00:20:54,920 –> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: that close to the smoke, the big show. Your thoughts

440
00:20:58,760 –> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: when you hear that Matt about Sean Barber thriving in

441
00:21:01,840 –> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: Andy Reid’s system, Well, I’m not surprised, of course, but

442
00:21:04,000 –> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: I have actually a question for Sean based on all

443
00:21:06,359 –> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: of this, And I mean my thought here as we

444
00:21:09,080 –> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: talk a lot about culture and how coach read changes

445
00:21:11,560 –> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: the culture of places, and you’ve kind of touched on this,

446
00:21:13,760 –> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: but coach read isn’t a big, raw raw guy. I mean,

447
00:21:16,640 –> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: he’s not, you know, getting out there in the media

448
00:21:18,280 –> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: and screaming and yelling and all this stuff, or rolling

449
00:21:21,080 –> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: the team up with those kind of antics. But we

450
00:21:23,320 –> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: always hear about the culture that he has and how

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Speaker 1: he endears himself to his players. And I’m as curious

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00:21:28,040 –> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: as a guy that played for him, what gave you

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Speaker 1: that trust in him, that he had your back and

454
00:21:33,359 –> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: that you wanted to play to your best of beer

455
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Speaker 1: buldies for him. I mean, I say, initially it was

456
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Speaker 1: the fact that I was coming off from injury. So

457
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Speaker 1: the reason I left Washington was because I had an

458
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Speaker 1: aco injury and I was rehabbing it and Redskins didn’t

459
00:21:42,880 –> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: feel like I was gonna come back one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And the Eagles actually took a chance on me. They

461
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Speaker 1: took a chance. They saw enough of my rehab and

462
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Speaker 1: they felt comfortable with me getting back to one hundred percent,

463
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Speaker 1: And actually, I guess from playing him twice made enough

464
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Speaker 1: plays that they felt like that might be a good

465
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Speaker 1: addition to their team. Obviously, it comes under the mentorship

466
00:22:02,040 –> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: of Jim Johnson, God bless her soul, one of the

467
00:22:04,880 –> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: most aggressive defensive callers as far as his philosophy was

468
00:22:08,840 –> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: to put so much pressure on the offense. We were

469
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Speaker 1: gonna dictate from a defensive standpoint what we were going

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Speaker 1: to allow the offense to do. So this this whole

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Speaker 1: concept of offenses calling plays and then defenses having to react,

472
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Speaker 1: we totally flip that around three sixty. We made we

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Speaker 1: we totally took your offense and we created such a

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Speaker 1: pressure package that we made you eliminate offensive plays from

475
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Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint. That made my job a lot more easier.

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Speaker 1: And so from like I said, he as he made

477
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Speaker 1: analysis and he made he was able to like look

478
00:22:40,000 –> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: at my game and say, it’s look, Sean, you go

479
00:22:41,760 –> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: sideline and sideline. You’re so quick, so fast, you don’t

480
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Speaker 1: have to be correct your first step. You can give

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Speaker 1: the offense account or two because you still have the

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Speaker 1: speed to make up for it and still make a play.

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Speaker 1: But what I can’t have you do is be wrong,

484
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Speaker 1: because if you’re wrong going to you’re so fast, you’re

485
00:22:57,160 –> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna dislodge yourself about five yards and then you’re gonna

486
00:22:59,840 –> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: leave that backdoor. Fatiki Barber and those red skins that

487
00:23:05,200 –> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis is of the world, when they hit that

488
00:23:07,359 –> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: back door they’re gonna go out to the the gate, so

489
00:23:08,760 –> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: we need you to protect our backside. And then if

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Speaker 1: you need to turn on that next level, getting that

491
00:23:14,440 –> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: next gear. You have great makeup speed, you have great

492
00:23:17,320 –> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: you can cover the field, but just don’t don’t, don’t, don’t, don’t,

493
00:23:20,359 –> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: don’t from the snap of the ball. Don’t overreact this

494
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Speaker 1: way for the play to come to you. And like

495
00:23:25,119 –> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: I said, instinctively, um that defense was something, and you

496
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Speaker 1: can tell from the stats it became like my second nature.

497
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Speaker 1: That was the most fun I had my entire career

498
00:23:34,160 –> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: was playing with the Eagles under Jim Johnson and Nandy Reid.

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Speaker 1: I just love hearing that, right because when you think

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Speaker 1: about the confidence that he gives his players, you can

501
00:23:41,320 –> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: see that on the team here today. It’s here’s what

502
00:23:44,480 –> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: you’re really good at. You’re awesome, like your personality show,

503
00:23:48,400 –> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: and here are a few things to keep in mind

504
00:23:50,240 –> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: out there. And it shows year to year we see

505
00:23:53,240 –> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: players and other systems and other cultures they come here

506
00:23:56,480 –> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: and they truly blossom, and it’s just a really cool

507
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Speaker 1: thing to see. I’ve heard many say exactly what you said,

508
00:24:03,080 –> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: They’ve had the most fun of their career playing for

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Speaker 1: this coach Andy Reid, and guys that were here when

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Speaker 1: he took over. Now let’s advance it here because now

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00:24:11,800 –> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: we’re going to get to the Chiefs part of this

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00:24:13,520 –> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: all right. In the fifteen years prior to Andy Reid’s arrival,

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00:24:17,840 –> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: the Chief’s Kingdom won one hundred eighteen games and lost

514
00:24:21,760 –> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: one hundred thirty eight twenty games below five hundred and

515
00:24:25,520 –> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: fifteen years, so you’re looking at about seven to ninety

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Speaker 1: six and tenies. There were some good years popping. We

517
00:24:30,040 –> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: all know that, and you played on a thirteen three team.

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Speaker 1: But he changed things immediately. I remember when I got

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00:24:37,000 –> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: the text from Mark Donovan, He’s coming and I’m thinking, Wow,

520
00:24:40,080 –> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is coming here. Everything changed, and it changed immediately.

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00:24:44,840 –> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I often said we were the dishes

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Speaker 1: on the Titanic. We were Phytoplankton. We were at the

523
00:24:50,560 –> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean at two and fourteen, and we

524
00:24:53,920 –> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: looked like it was a long way to three and thirteen,

525
00:24:56,920 –> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: and we go nine and zero is first year here.

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00:25:00,359 –> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: It’s phenomenal the impact that this guy has. So let’s

527
00:25:04,280 –> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: talk about the transformation that happened here. Because people enjoy

528
00:25:07,640 –> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: success for a nine year period, all they think is

529
00:25:10,080 –> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: we’re going to the playoffs and win Super Bowls. Wait

530
00:25:12,640 –> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: a minute, let’s back up the truck and look at

531
00:25:15,680 –> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: this and realize the perspective here of what Andy Reid

532
00:25:18,160 –> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: has done from a historical context, better than a Hank

533
00:25:22,160 –> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Stram beloved, better than the late Marty Schottenheimer beloved, any

534
00:25:27,040 –> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: coach that’s coach for the Chiefs, none has done what

535
00:25:29,600 –> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: Andy Reid has done. So I remember back in twenty twelve,

536
00:25:33,200 –> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: I watched with my buddy in college. We watched every

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Speaker 1: single game, all sixty minutes of it, even the last

538
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Speaker 1: game of the year. So did I by the way, Yeah,

539
00:25:42,000 –> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: and you had to call it you and I yeah,

540
00:25:45,520 –> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: But you know I watched every single one of those games,

541
00:25:47,640 –> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: and all I wanted old Chiefs Kingdom wanted was a winner.

542
00:25:52,720 –> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: And we have this incredible fan base, we have this

543
00:25:55,840 –> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: incredible history, and we know that we’re better than this.

544
00:25:58,960 –> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: We know it, you know, and we deserve it. And

545
00:26:01,680 –> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: when coach Reid came along, before he even coached a game,

546
00:26:04,920 –> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: I remember his opening press conference. I’m just a fan

547
00:26:06,960 –> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: back then. I’m watching it and just thinking to myself, Man,

548
00:26:10,040 –> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: everything is different now. You can just tell it’s just

549
00:26:12,160 –> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: different now, and it’s been that way, and it’s just

550
00:26:15,640 –> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: as a fan of this team first and foremost, it

551
00:26:18,520 –> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: just makes everything worth it in the end, and it’s

552
00:26:21,960 –> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: like we knew that we could get to this point.

553
00:26:24,040 –> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: And that’s what I was thinking about when we won

554
00:26:26,280 –> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. I got

555
00:26:27,640 –> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: my patch here my wife or this during when she’s

556
00:26:30,160 –> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: at super Bowl fifty four, so I think she has

557
00:26:31,880 –> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: to wear this to all of them moving forward. But

558
00:26:34,000 –> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: that’s what I was thinking about, you know, is I

559
00:26:35,560 –> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: remember where we were and where I was as a fan,

560
00:26:37,640 –> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: and it’s like, I’m not jumping ship. This is my

561
00:26:39,960 –> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: team and I love them. How do we figure things out?

562
00:26:42,760 –> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: And Coach Read figured it out and I knew it

563
00:26:44,760 –> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: from day one, and it’s just so cool to know

564
00:26:47,600 –> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: that this guy has the ingredients necessary to create this

565
00:26:53,040 –> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: amazing recipe and then he does it for all these

566
00:26:55,920 –> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: years and the success that we’ve had to be the

567
00:26:58,000 –> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: team that we are now is just so much fun.

568
00:27:00,440 –> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: To the point where we’re one and two and we’re

569
00:27:01,920 –> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: like what one and two? What? And we know we’ll

570
00:27:04,119 –> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: figure it out. We’re not even panicking because we know

571
00:27:05,800 –> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: we have Coach Read at the helm. It’s a very

572
00:27:07,520 –> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: special thing. Remember the old movie Pleasantville. Everything’s in black

573
00:27:10,640 –> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: and white, of course, and as the movie goes on,

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00:27:12,880 –> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: like people appear in color when they become enlightened. That’s

575
00:27:16,440 –> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: the way this place was. Because it felt like we

576
00:27:19,680 –> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: were covered in coal dust and then being within a

577
00:27:23,160 –> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: week and a half he started to change things. And

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00:27:26,880 –> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: I’m going to ask you shop because again more than

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00:27:30,000 –> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: any you were here in the kingdom. But you saw

580
00:27:32,680 –> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: he’s coming. You played for him, you played against him,

581
00:27:35,400 –> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: You played for him again in two thousand and six.

582
00:27:36,960 –> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: We’re run out of time. We can’t get into that story.

583
00:27:39,840 –> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: But the Burkholters and the Spags eventually, but they he

584
00:27:43,960 –> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: brought his village with him. Yeah, what were you thinking

585
00:27:47,440 –> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs have Andy Reid is or coach. Now,

586
00:27:50,680 –> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: the perspective I can put on it is when I

587
00:27:53,000 –> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: got here in No. Three, four and five, there was

588
00:27:55,280 –> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: a great offense here, a great offense, and I was

589
00:27:58,280 –> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: almost deemed or christen to be a leader on the

590
00:28:01,440 –> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. With Greg Robinson in that defense,

591
00:28:04,920 –> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: there was you know, I can boldly and honestly say

592
00:28:08,800 –> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: there was not much trust in that defense from a

593
00:28:12,280 –> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: player to the coaching staff, whether it’s from the d

594
00:28:15,520 –> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: line to linebackers, from a linebackers trusting that our secondary

595
00:28:18,480 –> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: can do what they were asked to do. And when

596
00:28:20,320 –> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: you go into a meeting room on a practice field

597
00:28:24,200 –> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: and you and you feel that there’s a lack of

598
00:28:26,240 –> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: trust on the different levels, you know, sooner or later, yeah,

599
00:28:29,480 –> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: you might win a couple of ball games. And I

600
00:28:31,000 –> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: think that season right in two thousand three three, right

601
00:28:35,200 –> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: we started nine and oz went thirteen and three. But

602
00:28:38,400 –> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: something as meat as a player knew that that team

603
00:28:41,120 –> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: could not win it all. It couldn’t, It couldn’t be

604
00:28:43,440 –> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a team to stay in the test of time because

605
00:28:45,400 –> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: it was so much mistrust. No one trusted day was

606
00:28:48,480 –> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna be in the right position, or that the defensive

607
00:28:51,080 –> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: call was gonna be the right call for that situation

608
00:28:53,000 –> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: in the game. The one thing I knew that when

609
00:28:55,840 –> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Andy Ree came to Kansas City, that one thing, that

610
00:28:59,640 –> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: trust was gonna be elimited. That lack of trust was

611
00:29:01,920 –> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna be eliminated. I didn’t know how long it was

612
00:29:04,200 –> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna take. I didn’t know how long the environment was

613
00:29:06,640 –> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna take for him to evolve and build that trust

614
00:29:11,680 –> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: between the offense, and defensive side of the ball, and

615
00:29:14,800 –> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: between the front office and the coaches and the coaches

616
00:29:16,720 –> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: and the players. But I knew if he had given

617
00:29:18,640 –> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: enough time and people just just just just eat what

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00:29:22,600 –> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: he’s feeding you, Right, It’s about the players having time

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00:29:25,520 –> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: to learn. It’s about the environment of learning, alignment, assignment,

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00:29:28,560 –> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: learning football philosophy, Taking guys, Taking guys who have been

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00:29:32,960 –> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: told they are all this. Sometimes you gotta chop them

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00:29:35,480 –> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 1: down a few. You gotta chop them down and let

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00:29:37,280 –> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: them see their faults, and then you gotta build them

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00:29:39,400 –> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: back up. As a coach, you can’t coach a guy

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00:29:41,920 –> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: on the field. You gotta let him make some mistakes

626
00:29:44,400 –> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: to realize why he’s making the mistakes. But then you

627
00:29:46,600 –> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: got to be bold enough and proud enough as a

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00:29:48,280 –> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: coach to take that player to the side and find

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00:29:50,520 –> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: out why did he do that? Why did he missed

630
00:29:53,000 –> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: up and go the wrong way, Why did that player

631
00:29:54,520 –> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: run that route short? Why was that ball overthrown? Like

632
00:29:57,520 –> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: all the different things. Some coaches and players don’t They

633
00:30:00,640 –> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: don’t communicate. They want to be watch the film and

634
00:30:04,600 –> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: they hope the coach don’t see that play I missed

635
00:30:06,920 –> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: up And coach goes to the next play, and they

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00:30:10,400 –> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he didn’t see that play. He

637
00:30:12,640 –> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: didn’t see the play where I was looking the wrong way.

638
00:30:14,360 –> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I went the wrong way. When when it’s an accountability

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00:30:18,760 –> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: and you know it’s a passion to be in truth

640
00:30:21,640 –> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: and honor and you just want the team to be successful,

641
00:30:24,360 –> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: even if it’s at your own demise, you hold up, coach,

642
00:30:28,240 –> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: stop that play. Hey, I went the wrong way. I

643
00:30:30,840 –> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: had my eyes on that guard and when they went

644
00:30:32,840 –> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: that way, like which gaping I’m supposed to take? It’s

645
00:30:35,200 –> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: a it’s a passion for learning, and some coaches do

646
00:30:38,760 –> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: not build a culture that make guys feel comfortable even

647
00:30:41,800 –> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: showing that they don’t know what they don’t know. And

648
00:30:45,520 –> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: you and you go over and over again, assuming that

649
00:30:47,800 –> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the guy to your left and the right knows what

650
00:30:49,080 –> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: they’re supposed to do, until guess what, it’s game day

651
00:30:52,480 –> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: and that offensive coordinate on that other team he tweaks

652
00:30:55,160 –> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: to play instead of the guard pulling, the center pools

653
00:30:58,440 –> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and we got two linebackers going to the gap and

654
00:31:00,480 –> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: nobody in the C gap and it goes for six

655
00:31:02,400 –> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: and we’re on the sideline looking like, what what do

656
00:31:04,840 –> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: we do wrong? Who hit the wrong gap? Nobody has

657
00:31:07,600 –> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: any accountability. Nobody wants to step up and say, hey,

658
00:31:10,080 –> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I read the wrong person I read the wrong gap,

659
00:31:11,960 –> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: I ran the wrong personnel. Oh, I lined up in

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00:31:14,440 –> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: the wrong place, I execute it wrong. There’s a there’s

661
00:31:16,960 –> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: a there’s a level of trust here. Everybody is sacrificing,

662
00:31:20,480 –> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: working at butts off on a daily basis, do things

663
00:31:22,520 –> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: the right way. And that’s something that coach Read since

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00:31:25,200 –> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: day one is brought here and I knew when he

665
00:31:27,400 –> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: brought that here. We had the personnel. We had the personnel,

666
00:31:30,840 –> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but all we needed was that trust and that accountability.

667
00:31:33,120 –> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: And he’s married both of those things to create a

668
00:31:35,840 –> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: what we had in the middle of a dynasty. And

669
00:31:38,120 –> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I’ll add there to that accountability is behind closed doors,

670
00:31:40,520 –> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: which I think is super important because how often do

671
00:31:42,960 –> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: you see coaches call out players in the media or

672
00:31:45,360 –> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: call out players outside of the building. That doesn’t do

673
00:31:48,360 –> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: anything for accountability. That just makes a guy be down

674
00:31:50,560 –> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: on himself and then you have mistrust. Coach Read will

675
00:31:53,440 –> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: go out and say, this is all my responsibility. The

676
00:31:55,840 –> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: behind closed doors address the issues, and that’s so important.

677
00:31:58,720 –> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: But while he addresses the issues, he creates horizontal accountability

678
00:32:02,520 –> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: in his locker room. He knows that’s important that he

679
00:32:04,760 –> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: can’t win without that. It can’t just be the coach alone.

680
00:32:07,240 –> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: We’ll close this way. One of my first conversations with him,

681
00:32:11,320 –> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: because you spurred this thought is shop as I said, coach,

682
00:32:16,920 –> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: because we were in a one on one. I said,

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00:32:18,920 –> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: it just seems like the league is turning into almost distrust,

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00:32:21,520 –> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: like instead of starting at zero, and I’ve got to

685
00:32:23,840 –> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: earn shops trust and Matt’s trust, like you’re starting at

686
00:32:26,800 –> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: negative five. He goes, no, I don’t necessarily agree with that.

687
00:32:29,880 –> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: It depends on the environment that you’re in. Now I

688
00:32:31,880 –> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: can see what you’re saying a little bit. Things have

689
00:32:33,600 –> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: changed in this league. But he goes, just, it’s not

690
00:32:38,200 –> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: necessarily that, like, don’t start at minus five. Now, I’m

691
00:32:42,120 –> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: gonna let you start at zero. Might give you plus one.

692
00:32:45,000 –> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: But he immediately said, I’m gonna hold you accountable. I

693
00:32:49,560 –> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: saw that look in his eye, and I got like

694
00:32:51,160 –> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I had to go to the bathroom real fast. But

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00:32:54,240 –> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: it’s also something special in him and I saw it,

696
00:32:57,760 –> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: and starting in the first couple of weeks he was here,

697
00:33:01,240 –> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: I thought, we’re gonna win, and we won Philadelphia one.

698
00:33:06,160 –> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have won and now the two play each other,

699
00:33:08,880 –> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: ironically with Andy Reid can make National Football League history

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00:33:12,920 –> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: if he gets his one hundred win with the Chiefs,

701
00:33:14,760 –> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: and he did so with the Eagles. No, their coach

702
00:33:16,440 –> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: has done that in the history of the league. Yes,

703
00:33:18,840 –> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: it’s the Andy Reid Bowl. Thanks to my man’s shop,

704
00:33:22,120 –> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Sean Barber, thanks to my man Matt McMullen, and honestly, folks,

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Speaker 1: don’t let this thought pass by. This is a moment

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Speaker 1: in National Football League history. The Andy Reid Bowl coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Thanks for joining us on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom. My Mitch Holter’s voice. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: touch down and the celebration begins in their head.

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