Defending The Kingdom 6/26: What Does Steve Spagnuolo Bring to the Chiefs Defensive Table?

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Speaker 1: This is the Chief’s official podcast network, taking vantage on

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs all right in the thick of a baby. Well, hello, everybuddy,

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Speaker 1: welcome to our third edition of Defending the Kingdom. And man,

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Speaker 1: the feedback has been great. I’ve resented a lot of

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Speaker 1: feedback personally so as Barbershop, both on your reaction to

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Speaker 1: social media, but also then in just personal conversations and

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Speaker 1: in some traditional media. And so we’re going to explore

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Speaker 1: on this third edition of Defending the Kingdom actual defense

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Speaker 1: because I get asked almost every day. That was our

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Speaker 1: second one. Our second edition was what’s Mahome’s going to

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Speaker 1: do for an encore? And then right after that, Barbershop,

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Speaker 1: the follow up is what about Steve Spagnoll. What’s he

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Speaker 1: gonna do for the Chiefs defense? What a Spags bring

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Speaker 1: to the defense. And You’ve got a unique perspective because

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Speaker 1: you played for him. What if your experience with him?

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Speaker 1: What do we got here? What in your opinion to

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Speaker 1: spread Spags bring to the defense. Well, I think I

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Speaker 1: have such a unique point of viewing this because not

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Speaker 1: only do I know him as a coach as far

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Speaker 1: as he was a dB coach when I was a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: but then I come back in two thousand and six

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Speaker 1: as a linebacker back to the Eagles, and now he’s, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he’s my coach. He’s coaching the linebackers. And

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Speaker 1: then to see all the years as he’s progressed on

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Speaker 1: to be not only a defensive coordinator, but a head coach,

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Speaker 1: special assistant. He’s played in the big show one the

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Speaker 1: Big Show and had you know, just so many coaches

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Speaker 1: work under him the tools. I’ve seen him as a

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Speaker 1: student under Jim Johnson and also now as a teacher

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Speaker 1: teaching the other guys his system. And so it’s it’s

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Speaker 1: just been a and it’s just been a fabulist journey

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Speaker 1: and trip to see him just continue to grow as

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Speaker 1: a football mine in the NFL. Thirty six years of experience,

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Speaker 1: that’s that’s that’s that’s amazing. Did anybody can last anything

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Speaker 1: that long but continue to coach it with a passion

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Speaker 1: and a purpose. I’ve watched him from afar and I’ve

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Speaker 1: admired him, and being head coach of the Rams, there

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Speaker 1: was there was some tough times for him, but we

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Speaker 1: know it’s a growing experience and had to help him

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Speaker 1: because he did that after he coached you with Philly

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Speaker 1: and oh six. But watching him from afar and I

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Speaker 1: look specifically at his two seventeam that’s the year that

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants beat one of the two times

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Speaker 1: went back and looked at that team. People remember Tyree,

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Speaker 1: David Tyree’s catching in his head, right, That’s what they

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Speaker 1: all remember that team for. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: that team, they were a fifth wildcard team to win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Sixty nine Chiefs were in there as well,

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Speaker 1: but they caught fire in the playoffs. When you look

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Speaker 1: at what Spags defense did during the playoffs, he held

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Speaker 1: the Ponts to fourteen seventeen twenty and held Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: to fourteen points. That caught my attention. And then the

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Speaker 1: way he coached up guys. Yeah he had stars. He

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Speaker 1: had stray hand that year. That was his last year.

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Speaker 1: But guys like O c. Human Eura and people that

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Speaker 1: he developed into stars. What about Spags in doing that,

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Speaker 1: take me what you got and then make something happen

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Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, he also had a special linebacker. He

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Speaker 1: used to play for the Chiefs, right that Kueka mitchell S.

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Speaker 1: So you know, to take a guy who’s actually I’ve

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Speaker 1: been on the field with Kuika is a headstrong, very smart,

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Speaker 1: instinctual middle linebacker. Hit everybody like a like a ton

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Speaker 1: of bricks. But there was there was coverage liabilities. There’s

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Speaker 1: things that you know, we kind of felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with that? Do you do you

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Speaker 1: eliminate him being on the field, or do you create

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Speaker 1: a package, create a defense that takes advantage of the

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Speaker 1: man’s assets strengths and use that to empower him to

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Speaker 1: be even a better player on the field, to make

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Speaker 1: them even more impactful. Show that athlete what his streams are,

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Speaker 1: also showing what his weaknesses are and what he needs

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Speaker 1: of direction, then tell him, hey, man, when when this

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Speaker 1: And that’s what he did with running backs. He knew

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Speaker 1: to them on their side of the the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: And just that little tweak in what Kuwika Mitchell did

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Speaker 1: Spagnola can take somebody who in our defense, you know,

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Speaker 1: certain linebackers, d lineman who maybe Bob Setting didn’t use

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Speaker 1: take that and just let their abilities grow. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: and this is all respect to Quika, loved him when

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Speaker 1: he was here with the Chiefs, but he’s not going

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Speaker 1: on the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What I remember

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Speaker 1: but they were good. But all three levels were impactful,

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Speaker 1: that’s what he may bring to the Chiefs too, is

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs you need them to be to take the

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Speaker 1: next step. Anytime you have athletic playmakers on the defense

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Speaker 1: want to do is make them passive. May take away

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Speaker 1: something to me. Aggressiveness is one of the greatest assets

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Speaker 1: to a defense. We talk about, you know, coach spags

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Speaker 1: and we know that. You know, when I was with Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: And instead of you know, sugaring it down and watering

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Speaker 1: be aggressive downhill players, dictate to the offense what we

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Speaker 1: of the defense, no matter what, all four quarters of

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Speaker 1: the game, no matter what the score was. And that

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Speaker 1: are the aggresses in this defense. A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: This relates to the twenty eighteen chiefs of where SPAGS

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Speaker 1: one was last in the NFL. The Chiefs as good

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Speaker 1: a season as they had, fifty four percent of the

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Speaker 1: runs on first down were for four plus yards, about

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Speaker 1: the same on the other downs, but the league average

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Speaker 1: was forty five percent. Let’s take that one first. How

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Speaker 1: can spags what did you see? Maybe an unconventional way

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Speaker 1: to stop the run, but at some point you have

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Speaker 1: to at least mitigate the run. They can’t sit there

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Speaker 1: keep Mahomes off the field. That was last week’s or

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Speaker 1: the last time we did defending the Kingdom. Go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to it. But how do you get teams

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Speaker 1: slowed down in particularly on first down and running the ball?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like a follow spee of this being

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Speaker 1: um a big play orientated defense. Either we’re gonna start

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Speaker 1: the drive by getting a tackle for loss, a sack

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Speaker 1: uh run for no game, or we’ll give up a

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Speaker 1: you know, a twelve yard out route or first down

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Speaker 1: off that first snap. But what we aren’t going to

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Speaker 1: do is allow you to nickel and diamonds on a

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Speaker 1: the other team’s offense to have the ball. That’s one

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Speaker 1: less minute. My homes get to have the ball. That’s

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Speaker 1: one less possession our offense, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: So um, I wouldn’t say, uh, throw throw caution through winter,

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Speaker 1: you know, just throw out the crazy blitz zero blitz

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Speaker 1: every time. But there are ways that you can call

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Speaker 1: it a run blitz game. You can you can run

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Speaker 1: certain blitzes that are great against interior runs. Every team

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Speaker 1: wants the interior run and these three to four yards

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Speaker 1: so they are ahead of the sticks. They create you know,

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Speaker 1: second and four, second and three scenarios, which you know

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Speaker 1: work to the benefit to take shots down downfield. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you can counter that with some great defensive calls,

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Speaker 1: you can overload those interior gaps with run stopping blitz

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Speaker 1: to creates tackles for loss, tackles for no game that

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Speaker 1: creates second and long, second and tens. Now it’s a

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Speaker 1: defensive time to get aggressive with the play call and

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Speaker 1: hopefully set up some third and lungs. And last year

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Speaker 1: the third and lungs will also drove me to Adville

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Speaker 1: and maybe something stronger. Just just take the New England game.

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Speaker 1: In the FC Championship game, they were thirteen of nineteen

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Speaker 1: on third down and seven of the thirteen conversions were

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Speaker 1: third and greater than six. We’re not going to go there.

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Speaker 1: We could spend a whole show on that. But red

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Speaker 1: zone two? Where could Spags a print of the the red zone? Now?

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Speaker 1: I might give Bob Sutton credit. The Chiefs were the

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Speaker 1: best in the NFL under Bob Sutton in red zone

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Speaker 1: defense in twenty fourteen. They were fifth in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Last year, thirty first. Only Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: was worse. Seventy two touchdowns in the red zone against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The league average was fifty nine. Now, so

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Speaker 1: teams were not only holding the ball Mahomes can’t get it,

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Speaker 1: but once they got to the red zone, they were

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Speaker 1: able to score. With Spags and his approach, what could

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Speaker 1: he possibly do to improve the red zone defense at

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Speaker 1: least holding the field goals? Well, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the primary things is you want to cut down on

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Speaker 1: all the verbiage. You want to make it as simple

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Speaker 1: as possible. It doesn’t matter if the offense knows what

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Speaker 1: you’re doing when you get to the red zone, you

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Speaker 1: summer of watching this defensive staff and Spags. You mentioned scheme,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned technique, you mentioned teaching. A lot of coaches

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Speaker 1: say they have attention to detail, but honestly, the great

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Speaker 1: ones do. It’s why Andy’s so good because it takes

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Speaker 1: patience and more work. Like it’s it’s like you’re trying

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Speaker 1: to like now, if that’s not going to work, we’re

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Speaker 1: gonna paint this totally different here. What about what you’ve

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Speaker 1: noticed with Spags and his defense and the fact that

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Speaker 1: they truly have an attention to detail. If I’m playing

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Speaker 1: a cloud technique is a defensive back that means this minute, step,

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Speaker 1: this look, this is the way we get them off

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Speaker 1: the field. If I’m playing press, if I’m playing off,

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Speaker 1: if I’m playing man’s own combo. But I’ve noticed that

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Speaker 1: in these guys one, they’ve got the attention to detail

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Speaker 1: themselves to teach attention to detail. What are you seeing

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Speaker 1: from communication, trust, and buying? Those are things that coach

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Speaker 1: Spagnola is going to ask his defense to do every

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Speaker 1: level to defense. From a secondary standpoint, if you can

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Speaker 1: don’t communicate, if you don’t know when they’re doing bunch

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Speaker 1: motion versus spread motion, when they zoom in, zoom across

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Speaker 1: while receivers go across the formation. All those things are

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Speaker 1: going to affect your technique. They’re gonna affect your alignment,

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Speaker 1: They’re gonna affect your assignment, and then it’s going to

436
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Speaker 1: affect how you complete your task. And to really know

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Speaker 1: the nuances of the defense, you can’t just learn alignment assignment.

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Speaker 1: You have to know the why why are we doing this?

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Speaker 1: Why am I hanging so heavy inside? Why do you

440
00:21:22,920 –> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: want me to jam outside? Why am I lined up

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Speaker 1: straight down the middle of the cause confusion for the

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Speaker 1: receiver in the route? Why am I jamming and rerouting

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Speaker 1: on a third and eleven versus a third and six?

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Speaker 1: What is the purpose behind that? When you don’t trust

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Speaker 1: that an athlete has the ability to do certain things,

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Speaker 1: you just want him to line up and do it. Hey, hey,

447
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Speaker 1: this this is how we’re doing it. Just line up

448
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Speaker 1: and do it. It’s it’s the way the defense is

449
00:21:49,080 –> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: being called. It’s it’s why you’re doing it. You find

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Speaker 1: different coaches coaching that way. You know you do it

451
00:21:54,560 –> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: because I said so. But when you really trust somebody

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Speaker 1: and you’re not willing and you’re willing to open up

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Speaker 1: the playbook, put up the philosophy and let him know

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Speaker 1: on film, let him know using teaching tape, let him

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Speaker 1: know from repetition, and then doing something that coach Bags

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Speaker 1: does it. You rarely see pulling guys out of drills

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Speaker 1: on a one on one fine tune in those details

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Speaker 1: and talking to guys. This right here, these five minutes

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Speaker 1: are more important than what we’re doing in team. This

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Speaker 1: five minutes is more important we’re doing an individual because

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Speaker 1: I see something in you, and I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you know exactly why we’re doing every little detail

463
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Speaker 1: and everything we’re doing the defense. I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you really know what you know. And he’ll ask

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Speaker 1: you things. He’ll ask you, what’s your responsibility in this?

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Speaker 1: What are you attacking this? What is your eyes on this?

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Speaker 1: Who is your eye? Are you training your eyes to

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Speaker 1: be in the right place? All these little things to

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Speaker 1: make you the best you can be at your position

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Speaker 1: to make that defense successful. I’ve been fascinated by this

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Speaker 1: tutoring that he’s done, and he takes like a different

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Speaker 1: guy from a different part of the defense every session.

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Speaker 1: So this should be the analogy. If you’re getting called

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Speaker 1: to the principal’s office and you’re like, oh crud, what

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Speaker 1: did I do? Or and then you go to the

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Speaker 1: principal’s office and he helps you with your geometry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that’s what it is. It is like you said, it’s

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Speaker 1: the principal calling me out of history class. Ye, and

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Speaker 1: you think you’re trying to know you’re struggle with geometry,

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Speaker 1: but let me show you this, and you’re like, the

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Speaker 1: principal’s helping me with geometry. He saw something. He wants

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Speaker 1: you to be the best student as possible. And so

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Speaker 1: instead of instead of just letting it go and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I’m gonna let the coach handle that, no, no, I’ve

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Speaker 1: witnessed this. I see it. I think this guy’s hesitating

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Speaker 1: because he doesn’t know exactly why he’s doing it. So

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Speaker 1: instead of instead of waiting until the next coaching teaching moment,

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Speaker 1: instead of letting a position coach get to him, he

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Speaker 1: speaks to you directly. I developed his defense and the

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Speaker 1: reason I put you in this position and I want

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Speaker 1: your hands placed here and I want your eyes here.

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Speaker 1: It is because the goal is to create this hesitation

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Speaker 1: in the offensive coordinator, hesitation in the quarterback, for him

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Speaker 1: to have a hesitate for one more second, where to

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Speaker 1: deliver the ball because we got a free hit of coming.

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Speaker 1: We got somebody coming to have it on his quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But we need you to create a little bit of hesitation.

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Speaker 1: So I can’t have you this fully buzzing out to

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Speaker 1: the flat. I can’t have you just take away this

500
00:24:08,640 –> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: curl out. I need you to play with him a

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00:24:10,240 –> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: little bit. I need you to show him that you

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Speaker 1: got this. But then hedge towards that that a little

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Speaker 1: bit of hesitation is what creates sex in those big

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Speaker 1: moments that wins ball games. I want to ask him this,

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Speaker 1: and I’m not asking this, I’ll ask him this in

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Speaker 1: Saint Joe. I think he does it too for a

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Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One, he gives a message to his defense.

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Speaker 1: He’s talking to his defense, and not just in the

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Speaker 1: defensive team room when everybody’s together and you’re breaking down tape, right,

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Speaker 1: He’s showing everybody in the defense that they matter to

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Speaker 1: him individually. That’s one. Two. I almost have a theory

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Speaker 1: he does it for himself. He wants to stay fresh

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Speaker 1: and sharp, he wants to teach, and so it is

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Speaker 1: a way he keeps honing his own skill. So I’ve

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Speaker 1: been fascinated by it to see him do it, and

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Speaker 1: it’s like, well, he’s not always with the DBS because

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Speaker 1: some defensive coordinators for DBS right or the dB coaches,

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Speaker 1: or some were linebackers or d l’s, he’s picking somebody

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Speaker 1: every day. I just I find it very interesting. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask him about that when we get to

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Speaker 1: Saint Joe all right, fourth quarter and then has to

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Speaker 1: deal with a blending here because everybody’s excited about the

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Speaker 1: new guys that have been added, whether it’s Frank Clark

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Speaker 1: or the Honey Badger were talked about Alex Elka for

525
00:25:18,600 –> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: Darren Lee. I’m gonna leave somebody out here, Brashad Brelan.

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Speaker 1: But then you have to blend them with the guys

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Speaker 1: that are returning, guys that you’re counting on taking the

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00:25:26,920 –> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: next step, whether that’s Kendall Fuller or whether that’s the

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Speaker 1: other safety group, like is Daniel Soreisen or down the

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Speaker 1: line Jordan Lucas or up front with the other defensive

531
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Speaker 1: guys or the linebackers that maybe a Dorian O’Daniel comes

532
00:25:41,880 –> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: into play here. The blending of the old and new,

533
00:25:46,200 –> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: and the challenge is there for the defensive staff. You’ve

534
00:25:49,280 –> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: lived this life. I’m curious to see what will happen

535
00:25:52,720 –> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: with that blending as hope you guys are up to

536
00:25:55,440 –> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: the challenge as a player. You know, when I entered

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00:25:59,119 –> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles and too, I was entering the staff a

538
00:26:02,560 –> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: team that was already on the championship level. I was

539
00:26:04,600 –> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: coming from the Washington Redskins. Our defense I think was

540
00:26:07,320 –> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: ranked thirtieth that season after the two thousand and one season.

541
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Speaker 1: So I go to Philadelphia and I’m getting to play

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00:26:15,200 –> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: with this name recognition, the Brian Dawkins, de Troy Vincecuss,

543
00:26:19,240 –> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: the Jeremiah try I get to play with. I’m playing

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Speaker 1: with some of the guys that I know are playing

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00:26:23,000 –> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: at the highest level. But I do my research about

546
00:26:25,359 –> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: coach Jim Johnson. I realized this, this this defense we’re

547
00:26:28,600 –> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: playing is one of the most aggressive deep So you

548
00:26:31,440 –> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to kind of let it hang. You

549
00:26:33,800 –> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: gotta be really really at all at any point, make

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00:26:36,880 –> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: that big pick six, make that play. Um, you’re buzzing

551
00:26:40,240 –> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 1: your buzzing scene routes. You’re running with tight ends, you’re

552
00:26:43,560 –> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: running with linebackers with wide receivers in the slot. To

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00:26:47,640 –> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: be a wide out in a slot receiver and to

554
00:26:50,600 –> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: be manned up with the linebacker. You start to salivate

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00:26:53,040 –> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: that that that that that’s supposed to be a win

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00:26:55,600 –> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: for the offense. But the tools that they gave us

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00:26:59,080 –> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: as a linebacker, the play the slot, knowing that you

558
00:27:01,240 –> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: only had to take away a handful of routes because

559
00:27:03,840 –> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: you were getting help from somebody else. A safety kind

560
00:27:07,280 –> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: of hanging down in a robber position. He’s gonna rob

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00:27:10,240 –> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: the middle, so I could act like I was inside technique,

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00:27:13,720 –> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: shoot the shoulder, then buzz outside corner, and now I’m

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00:27:16,840 –> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: just running top side with a receiver down a scene,

564
00:27:20,640 –> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: knowing that you had you know, some some some some

565
00:27:22,960 –> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: some different tools and techniques in your tool bait to

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00:27:26,200 –> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: make that what the offensive thought was an easy win.

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00:27:28,800 –> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: Now make him hold the ball and going for place else.

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00:27:30,920 –> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: And when that sack happens, when you’re the linebacker, you’re

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00:27:33,520 –> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: covering the slot and he has to check check and

570
00:27:36,440 –> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: he holds it to go to another receiver, and now

571
00:27:38,520 –> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: he gets sacked and you realize your coverage caused that sack.

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00:27:41,800 –> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: That is so rewarding for a guy who’s supposed to

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00:27:44,480 –> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: be in the position of a disadvantage. But that aggressing

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00:27:48,160 –> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: this up up rerouting at the line of scrimmage. That

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00:27:51,480 –> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: aggressing this just from a defensive mentality when the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinated has to know we’re bringing seven, we’re bringing eight,

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00:27:58,400 –> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: we might be bringing nine um and not knowing where

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00:28:01,040 –> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: that you know, those extra hitters are coming from. And

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Speaker 1: you see the hesitation in the quarterback of what check

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00:28:06,720 –> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: to make? Does he want to check out of it?

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00:28:08,640 –> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Are we really coming or not? It gets it gets

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00:28:11,920 –> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: my juices flowing to see that. And we talk about

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00:28:14,520 –> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: the old with the new um. It was just so

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00:28:17,680 –> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: many times last year when uh, you just you just

585
00:28:20,920 –> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: felt there was there was there was too much momentum

586
00:28:23,560 –> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: being given to the other team’s opponent, uh, to our opponents,

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00:28:27,720 –> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: the other team’s offense. At some of the most inoptiple

588
00:28:30,720 –> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: times of the game. We’re giving big runs, big conversions.

589
00:28:36,760 –> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: You wanted to really go after that quarterback, but you

590
00:28:39,040 –> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: saw that we weren’t going after them, and they created

591
00:28:41,760 –> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: like you said, we saw some third and lungs created um.

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00:28:45,160 –> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: And you know that championship game that you just whether

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00:28:48,200 –> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: they got it or not, we just want we just

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00:28:50,080 –> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: needed some type of attitude adjustment to put a little

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00:28:54,040 –> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: bit of fear in that opponent quarterback that we that

596
00:28:56,840 –> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: we might bring the house, that we might do whatever.

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00:29:00,240 –> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: It’s a dude to get to you. We were going

598
00:29:02,160 –> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: to do it, and it took some propane out of

599
00:29:05,120 –> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: the tank when all the whole place is going crazy.

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00:29:09,800 –> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: One thing I’ve noticed with their staff too, and it’s

601
00:29:11,680 –> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: just something to think about and get your reaction. A

602
00:29:14,720 –> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of coaches, when they come from someplace else, bring

603
00:29:17,480 –> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: their guys that they had before. All right, they’re comfortable

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00:29:20,880 –> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: with it. They know what they’ve got with the guy,

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00:29:23,360 –> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and it gives them a level of comfort, but it

606
00:29:25,880 –> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: also puts them well sometimes it usually it does not work,

607
00:29:31,240 –> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: or they’ll bring too many guys. All right, let’s think

608
00:29:33,040 –> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: about this oak Fork Saints. None of these guys coached him.

609
00:29:36,200 –> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, Seattle, none of these guys coached him. Daily didn’t.

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00:29:39,120 –> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: House didn’t. I mean Merritt didn’t. I’m looking at Brashad Brelan. Nope,

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00:29:42,800 –> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: they didn’t coach him. Honeybadger he was with Houston in Arizona,

612
00:29:46,160 –> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: and when Merritt was at Arizona, Honey Badger was gone.

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00:29:48,880 –> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: So nope, they didn’t come. So the dynamic here of

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00:29:52,920 –> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: these guys are secure enough and who they are as

615
00:29:55,200 –> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: coaches is I don’t need to go get the guys

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Speaker 1: that I coached for five years at brand X and

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00:30:00,200 –> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: them in. I’ve got ability. Faith in my ability, I

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00:30:03,040 –> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: can coach up the guys that are here, and I’ll

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Speaker 1: bring in these new guys and I’ll coach them even

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Speaker 1: though I don’t know him that well. You know the

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Speaker 1: funny thing about that is when I was doing some

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Speaker 1: scouting internship did I did an internship where I worked

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles and when I worked for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: And both times when I was in Indianapolis at the combine,

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to sit with somebody in the

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Speaker 1: stands watching guys work out, watching the college guys worked out.

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Speaker 1: It was coach Bagnola. Even when he was a coordinator

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Speaker 1: or a position coach or a special assistant, he still

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Speaker 1: took time to go to Indianapolis to find nuances about

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Speaker 1: these upcoming guys. So he might have never coached these guys,

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Speaker 1: but you believe me, I mean believe me. He has

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Speaker 1: a thick notebook of notes of what the guy’s abilities, attributes,

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Speaker 1: what their strengths and weaknesses are before we brought them

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Speaker 1: to the Kingdom. He already had an idea of how

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Speaker 1: they were going to fit in and how he was

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Speaker 1: going to use them, and that that level of commitment

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Speaker 1: to even when you’re not the guy making a call

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Speaker 1: on who’s going to be drafted, who’s gonna be added

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Speaker 1: to your team, but you wanted to make sure you

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Speaker 1: got your eye on everybody coming into the league because

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Speaker 1: you know that at some point you might cross that

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Speaker 1: guy’s path that’s gonna pay dividends and you don’t find it.

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Speaker 1: Every coordinator that wants to spend the time because they

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Speaker 1: have to prepare, they’re preparing for the upcoming season. They

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Speaker 1: don’t have time to go to Indy to find about

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Speaker 1: these young rookies that might make the team, might not

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Speaker 1: make the team. They just want to know, Hey, who

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Speaker 1: we drafted, Get them to me and let me use him.

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Speaker 1: But he took time out to create a portfolio about

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Speaker 1: all the guys coming out each and every year. So

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Speaker 1: that’s why that’s why I’m so confident in this defense

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Speaker 1: because he might not have coached these guys that we’ve

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Speaker 1: added to the team or that was already here. But

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Speaker 1: this is not the first time you’ve seen him. You

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Speaker 1: know what, else was like that, Andy Reid. I’ll go

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Speaker 1: through personnel of the game that way and say you

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Speaker 1: know what about Barbourne. He’ll go yeah, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I saw him in Collogy. So he’s

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Speaker 1: the same dude, Like he has that same fervor for

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Speaker 1: finding out. He may not ever play for us, but

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Speaker 1: he might and he may play against us, but I

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Speaker 1: want to know. And so that’s the cool thing about

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Speaker 1: Spags is he’s bringing kind of an anti redness to

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Speaker 1: the defense indeed, and I’m noticed that, and then the

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Speaker 1: ripple effect. All right, that does it here for this

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Speaker 1: edition of Defending the Kingdom, we’re actually talking about defense,

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Speaker 1: but we’re gonna close it really quickly, Barbershop. I just

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Speaker 1: think this is the most underrated part of the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: team outside in like everybody else inside the Kingdom again,

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Speaker 1: they’re asking the question what now, what now? But outside

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom they’re thinking the Chiefs is aren’t gonna be

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Speaker 1: very good on defense. I just think this will be

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Speaker 1: the biggest surprise, one of the biggest surprises of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season is how good this Chiefs defense will be

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Speaker 1: when everybody following us. I just want to take a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes, a couple of moments to talk about

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Speaker 1: Coach Spagnola has with his beautiful wife, the Spagnola Foundation,

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Speaker 1: and that gives hopes to youth that do not have

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Speaker 1: the chance or the opportunity to achieve and pursue their dreams.

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Speaker 1: That’s a simple mission statement, but it can be impactful

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Speaker 1: and it can be implemented to so many different different

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Speaker 1: parts of the Kingdom if you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: look that up and show some support for that. When

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Speaker 1: when Maria gets the town, her and Coach spags would

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Speaker 1: definitely be finding some local organization to kind of interact with.

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Speaker 1: But that was something that they every team she’s gone

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Speaker 1: to with him, they’ve made such a dramatic impact on

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Speaker 1: the urban league and the urban youth. So I does

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Speaker 1: want to definitely let our followers know about that. And

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Speaker 1: you and I both know that the Chiefs Kingdom is

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Speaker 1: the perfect potting soil for something like that. You plant

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Speaker 1: and it grows. People want to be involved in those causes.

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Speaker 1: We’re excited, Steve Spagnoll on his defensive staff for here

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Speaker 1: as the Chiefs get ready for training camp, We’re gonna

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Speaker 1: do this one more time before training camp. We might

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Speaker 1: jump in, look at special teams and some things that

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Speaker 1: are on our checklist as we get ready for Saint Joe.

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Speaker 1: All right, barbershop, we got three in the books and

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Speaker 1: here we go training camp. Is that much else for

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Speaker 1: my friend? Excited? Excited about it? Let’s do a baby, Yo, sir,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening to the Chief’s Official podcast network to

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Speaker 1: touch Down, lost it Down, and the celebration begins in

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Speaker 1: their head.