‘The Formula’ – 2024 Season Preview | Defending The Kingdom

Voice of the Chiefs, Mitch Holthus and senior team reporter Matt McMullen preview the upcoming NFL season, providing their insight on the Chiefs ‘formula,’ which has led them to back-to-back Super Bowl Championships!

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Speaker 1: So many successful long term businesses have the formula. If

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Speaker 1: you go to the Koch Museum in Atlanta, you get

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Speaker 1: that feel. Chick fil A, they’ve got their own formula

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Speaker 1: how they do things and be so incredibly successful. It

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Speaker 1: is the same with the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes they

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Speaker 1: have a formula. Welcome back to DTK and it’s brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Ticketmaster, your new best friend. As we

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Speaker 1: do kick off officially now the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 2: McKinnon is in at running back. First time and goal

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Speaker 2: to go, play action.

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Speaker 2: A three yard touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Passing over time and Hi everybody, I’m Mitch Old’s voice

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen.

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Speaker 1: And Yes, the Chiefs will open the curtain once again

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Speaker 1: on the entire National Football League schedule grid as they’ll

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Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens in an AFC Championship rematch.

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Speaker 1: But we’re going to talk about the formula on this

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Speaker 1: episode because it’s become the theme of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four team. But you look at it not in just

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Speaker 1: the context of this season, or last season, or the

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Speaker 1: last two seasons, but if you look in the context

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Speaker 1: of Andy Reid’s twelve years here, you can very definitely

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Speaker 1: see a distinct formula of why this team now has

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Speaker 1: had eleven straight winning seasons in a league which is

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Speaker 1: designed for that not to happen.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we are so back. You believe we

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Speaker 2: play a game We’re gonna play lest that week? Did

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Speaker 2: it stop? I’m just starting to when did it stop?

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Speaker 1: But now it’s for real, right, we don’t have to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it’s here and we like that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But we can actually play a game here next week

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Speaker 3: and talk about a game and an opponent and get

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Speaker 3: into it. And we’ve talked all lot off season about

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Speaker 3: chasing this history. Well we can finally start doing that

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Speaker 3: here next week. So so excited we actually have real

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Speaker 3: football to talk about. I’m with you on the formula.

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Speaker 3: Can I give you a few results of the formula?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So under head coach Andy Reid here in Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: we have eleven consecutive winning seasons, cruise that hasn’t talked

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Speaker 3: about a lot. The Steelers always emphasize the non losing

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Speaker 3: seasons because they have some, like eight and eight seasons

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Speaker 3: at least nine victories in eleven consecutive years. It’s the

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Speaker 3: fifth longest streak in the Super Bowl era, so doesn’t

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Speaker 3: happen very often. Nine straight seasons with double digit wins

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Speaker 3: third longest in NFL history. Only New England was seventeen

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Speaker 3: and San Francisco was sixteen. Way back in the day

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Speaker 3: posted longer streaks. Eight straight AFC West titles second longest

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Speaker 3: streak for any team since nineteen seventy. Only New England,

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Speaker 3: with eleven AFC East titles from twenty nine to nineteen,

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Speaker 3: is longer. The Chiefs are forty one and seven against

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Speaker 3: divisional opponents in that span, easily the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Can you guess who’s next closest against their own division.

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Speaker 2: In that span? In that span, who’s the next closest

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Speaker 2: in that span.

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Speaker 3: Is beating their own division?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it would be Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: It’s not kind of surprised me. Yeah, it’s Dallas at

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Speaker 3: thirty five and thirteen against the NFC East. Wouldn’t have

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Speaker 3: guessed it you could win a lot up, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: sure could. I’d checked for that, of guest for that,

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Speaker 3: and I ve lastly Hivy gift card the Chiefs. Since

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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, since head coach Andy Reid took over, they

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Speaker 3: are one hundred and twenty eight and fifty one in

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Speaker 3: the regular season, most in the NFL, and they have

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Speaker 3: sixteen playoff wins in that span, three more than second

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Speaker 3: place New England, most in the NFL. So it’s all

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Speaker 3: to say the formula has been pretty effective, I’d say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we’re going to dive more into this of why

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Speaker 1: you and I think that it has happened to this

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Speaker 1: point in why teams look at it and maybe kind

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Speaker 1: of jealous of it. But unless they’re willing to replicate it,

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Speaker 1: than you know, good luck. And I don’t say that

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Speaker 1: with Hubris because this team is totally locked in on

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Speaker 1: this season in and of itself, and that’s part of

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Speaker 1: the formula actually, and it has been since Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: drove into town. But we have our own formula and

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Speaker 1: defending the Kingdom, and that is including going around the world. Now,

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Speaker 1: there’s a lot of news out there about like stranded

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Right, we’ve seen that go on like

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Speaker 1: that’d be kind of terrifying, But ours does not stop.

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Speaker 1: We have not We’re still spanning the globe looking for

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Speaker 1: our around the world, and I just love it how

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Speaker 1: people will come up and you know, hey, put me

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Speaker 1: in there, so it’s fine, but let’s go around the world.

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Speaker 3: What do you got, Well, we’ve been offline for like

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Speaker 3: two and a half weeks, so I’ve written it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn’t mean we haven’t been doing anything. It’s been crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mid season it’s been just super and a lot of

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Speaker 2: That’s okay. First rule problem.

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Speaker 3: I think people assume for our jobs that the season

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Speaker 3: doing anything, where it’s actually almost the opposite, because in

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Speaker 3: the season, we know what we’re doing every single day.

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Speaker 3: There’s a DTK every single week. We’re always record them

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday or Wednesday, and all of our stuff is

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Speaker 3: training camp in the preseason, just random things on random days.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like nine months have passed since training

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Speaker 3: camp began.

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Speaker 2: In mid July.

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Speaker 3: I’m so glad the season’s finally here because we have

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Speaker 3: actually a routine to get into. But I do have

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Speaker 3: ten around the world today, ten from over the last

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Speaker 3: like several.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, and I’ll throw it at eleventh just for fun. Perfect.

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Speaker 3: So the first is I heard from Steve in ann Arbor, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: We’ve heard from Steve before. He wrote me during the

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Speaker 3: preseason and told a story about how he remembered when

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Speaker 3: he was a kid, he would watch the Chiefs play

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Speaker 3: during the preseason against the College All Stars.

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Speaker 2: Remember that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Kind of love that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was the start. I’m sorry, that was the start.

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Speaker 1: It wasn’t the Hall of Fame game like it is now.

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Speaker 1: You waited all this time for football, and it was

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Speaker 1: the College All Stars playing the defending world champion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they had these stars on their their shoulder pads

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Speaker 1: on their on their uniforms and it was always like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Era Parsigian coaching them, And yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: that was way cool.

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Speaker 3: I love that game that would never happen today, for obviously,

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Speaker 3: are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: But like, though I’m getting fifty snaps against the defending

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Speaker 1: world champions, how much.

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Speaker 3: Would you give to watch the College All Stars play

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Speaker 3: against the Chiefs. It’d be so cool. I would want

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Speaker 3: to see what would happen.

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Speaker 1: As a little kid, I love that game because you know,

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Speaker 1: we’re just star for football and there were a few

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Speaker 1: times the College All Stars would win, and not very

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Speaker 1: often though, but yeah, just now it looks ridiculous actually,

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Speaker 1: but yes, I’m all for it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in an ultimate universe. One day we heard it

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Speaker 3: from Dan. Dan wanted to shout out his son Mitchell

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Speaker 3: and his in law Danny. They live in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 3: but just got married near Saint Louis and Danny’s surprised

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Speaker 3: Mitchell with a casey wolf appearance at the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Isn’t that great? The wolf? He’s everywhere, He is, truly everywhere.

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Speaker 3: He could be in space right now for all we know.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I’ve kind of been everywhere, uh if it’s true,

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Speaker 1: even since the eighth of July. But it seems like

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Speaker 1: the wolf has either been there right before him there,

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Speaker 1: or he’s coming right behind me, like the wolf is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he’s I think he replicates himself.

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Speaker 3: Like you’re walking in and the wolf is walking. Wolf

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Speaker 3: was here two days ago, Like where you’ve been you’re

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Speaker 3: tracking in Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Erksville, Missouri And they go, yeah, wolf

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Speaker 2: was just here.

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Speaker 3: I’m like, wolf is everywhere, including out their wedding. Congratulations,

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Speaker 3: that’s cool.

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Speaker 2: That’s a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Now watch the wolf get bazillions of requests the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Let’s have wolf with the wedding. We should do a

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Speaker 1: DTK from a wedding. That’d be awesomewhere in the Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, here they come though.

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Speaker 1: The wedding planners all over going.

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Speaker 3: I heard from Jean and Gary up at training camp.

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Speaker 3: They came up and said, hi, awesome couple. They had

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Speaker 3: a cool story. So they were in Thailand during last

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Speaker 3: year’s Super Bowl and Bangkok had to stay up super

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Speaker 3: late to watch it. But then they were wearing their

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Speaker 3: Chief skier proudly around Bangkok the day after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And what they pointed out, what I think is so

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Speaker 3: cool is the local population. A lot of people recognize

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Speaker 3: the Chief’s logo and we’re saying hey, Chiefs, congrats Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I mean if I told you that ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: I don’t think anyone in Thailand would recognize the arrowhead logo.

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Speaker 3: But I think it’s awesome that people over in Thailand

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Speaker 3: we’re familiar with the Chiefs, knew the Chiefs won the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and we’re congratulating Gene and Gary.

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Speaker 2: So the Hangover was it part three? That was part two? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well it wasn’t a chief slogo in that movie every.

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Speaker 3: I don’t think so maybe in part four we’ll see

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Speaker 3: a Chiefs logo. Shout out to Mike. Met Mike up

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Speaker 3: at camp along with his two sons. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: talking with them. Then I saw Mike again at the

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Speaker 3: Lions preseason game. He was there with his eighty year

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Speaker 3: old dad.

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Speaker 2: John Best.

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Speaker 3: They got to see the behind the back pass, so

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Speaker 3: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Don’t let the old man in, John.

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Speaker 3: I met Matt at the Lions game as well. He

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Speaker 3: was there with his daughters, Caitlin I believe she goes

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Speaker 3: by KK though, Brenn and Annabelle. Wonderful family. It’s great

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Speaker 3: meeting you all. Also met Aj at that game. We

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Speaker 3: met his family a few years ago up at camp.

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Speaker 3: They were from Australia, remember that. Yeah, he came down

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Speaker 3: and said hi and said, you guys met my family

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, so shout out to you all.

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Speaker 3: I met Patricio up at camp. Came all the way

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Speaker 3: from Mexico City just to watch and Chie’s practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: pretty awesome. How about all fifty states? And do we

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Speaker 3: forget how many foreign countries came to camp?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I bet it was a lot, because that’s it’s

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Speaker 2: on the app.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can ask someone.

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Speaker 1: he goes, That’s that’s huge. That’s something that we look

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Speaker 1: at more than other teams. So let’s look at a

419
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Speaker 1: Cam Thomas if he becomes another Mike Dana type, or

420
00:19:39,320 –> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 1: we see Chris Jones can move from inside to outside.

421
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Speaker 2: You get all these pieces.

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Speaker 1: Moving around when a team works in concert like that,

423
00:19:46,000 –> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: leave your ego at the door, just put it there.

424
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you get this energy and you

425
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Speaker 1: find cam Thomas’s and you find other players that can

426
00:19:56,720 –> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: ask and do the things that Steve Spagnolo or Andy

427
00:19:59,520 –> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: Reid asked them to do, which in many cases is

428
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Speaker 1: the most complicated scheme in both offense and defense in

429
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Speaker 1: the national Footballer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was at the Combine earlier this year,

431
00:20:09,240 –> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 3: it feels like a million years ago now, but I

432
00:20:11,160 –> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 3: had a chance to talk to a lot of our

433
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Speaker 3: kind of mid level scouts, the scouts that you don’t

434
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Speaker 3: really hear about. They’re not in front of cameras often,

435
00:20:18,720 –> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 3: but they’re doing like the dirty work, really working with

436
00:20:22,240 –> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 3: the area scouts, learning what players are all about, what

437
00:20:24,960 –> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 3: players are going to be on our draft board, how

438
00:20:26,760 –> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: are we going to rank them, stuff like that. And

439
00:20:28,960 –> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 3: they explicitly talked about how they scout players based on

440
00:20:32,920 –> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: what they know the coaching staff likes, and that seems

441
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Speaker 3: like an obvious point, why doesn’t everyone do that? But

442
00:20:38,160 –> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: the reality is, we’re so fortunate to have like a

443
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Speaker 3: rock solid regime here in Kansas City leadership wise and

444
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Speaker 3: on the coaching staff that other teams and franchises don’t

445
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Speaker 3: always have. If you’re a team that maybe is struggling

446
00:20:51,400 –> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: and you have a new front office and new coaching

447
00:20:53,720 –> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: staff in place, well the front office and the coaching

448
00:20:56,200 –> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: staff have to both look out for themselves. They don’t

449
00:20:58,280 –> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 3: know if the other is going to be there. But

450
00:21:00,240 –> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: with the chiefs, Brett Vich, coach read everyone, they’re here

451
00:21:03,040 –> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 3: for the long haul. We all know that they can

452
00:21:04,720 –> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: work together and build this thing for years to come.

453
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Speaker 3: If you’re a different team and you’re the front office,

454
00:21:10,080 –> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: you’re not necessarily looking for players just to fit your

455
00:21:12,600 –> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 3: coaching staff, because who knows that that coaching staff is

456
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Speaker 3: going to work out. You don’t know. Maybe you have

457
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Speaker 3: to move on from that coaching staff in a couple

458
00:21:18,240 –> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: of years and those players won’t fit that coach’s scheme,

459
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Speaker 3: So it didn’t make sense to look only for players

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Speaker 3: that fit that scheme. We’re so fortunate here that everyone

461
00:21:26,640 –> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: is on the same page. Everyone every day knows what

462
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Speaker 3: the other wants. And another thing that is kind of

463
00:21:33,359 –> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: unique here that doesn’t happen everywhere that should happen everywhere,

464
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Speaker 3: is the coaching staff is brought in to these scouting discussions.

465
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Speaker 3: When they’re working on certain position groups, grinding tape, trying

466
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Speaker 3: to figure out how they’re going to stack certain players

467
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Speaker 3: on the draft board. They’ll bring in Stiespagnolo or Matt

468
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Speaker 3: Nagi or Joe Cullen, whoever it may be, to say,

469
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Speaker 3: what do you think of this guy? How would you

470
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Speaker 3: rank these two players? Not every front office does that

471
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Speaker 3: because the egos get involved and the egos get the way,

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Speaker 3: and you would think with Kansas City, with all the success,

473
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Speaker 3: maybe there would be a lot of egos. Remarkably there’s

474
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Speaker 3: really not. Everyone is just here with their lunch paal

475
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Speaker 3: working together at one common goal. And you’re right, that’s

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Speaker 3: part of the formula that’s made us so successful over

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Speaker 3: the last several years. Does not happen a lot of places,

478
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Speaker 3: seems obvious, but it just doesn’t happen everywhere else around

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I’d say very few places around the NFL. And I

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Speaker 1: even extend that to professional sports. So the Big Four,

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Speaker 1: it’s rare what the chiefs have in their formula with

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Speaker 1: that because they just don’t care against the credit. There’s

484
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Speaker 1: no Wizard of Oz factor. Many times a general manager

485
00:22:36,400 –> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: will be the Wizard of Oz, bring me the witches broom.

486
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Speaker 1: They want to control the coach or the coach it’s

487
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Speaker 1: the bill parcels I’m going to you know, I want

488
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Speaker 1: to buy the groceries and all that. That just does

489
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Speaker 1: not exist here and it’s refreshing. But you also see

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Speaker 1: the byproduct of it, and that is this consistent winning.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you another position group that is a

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Speaker 1: prime example of this, and that’s wide receiver. Because you’ll

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Speaker 1: see all kinds of different ways. Let’s go back to

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Speaker 1: the Jamari Connor and Jaden Hicks example. So they may

495
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Speaker 1: not have the fastest forty time. They may not have

496
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Speaker 1: the most reps at two twenty five, but they’re talented

497
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Speaker 1: enough and they could be really talented. Even la Jerius

498
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Speaker 1: Snead fit this in the fact that though Virginia Tech,

499
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Speaker 1: more than most colleges, was at RASK was asking Connor

500
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Speaker 1: to do almost precisely what Spags wants him to do.

501
00:23:26,680 –> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Same with Washington State. And when I talked to both

502
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Speaker 1: of those guys, both formally and informally, they go, yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: heck yeah, like this isn’t something completely foreign to me.

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Speaker 2: That’s big.

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Speaker 1: But wide receiver is another one, because we mentioned this

506
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Speaker 1: many times and when your fiens, look, hey, go grab

507
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Speaker 1: this guy, go grab this guy. In free agency, Coach

508
00:23:43,600 –> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Reid wants every receiver to play every position. You’re not

509
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Speaker 1: an AX, you’re not a slot, you’re not a Z.

510
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Speaker 1: You’re everything. And that’s rare too in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Because we want to get a big X, we’re all

512
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Speaker 1: we’re going to do is throw him nine routes and

513
00:23:54,800 –> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: fades right or and we know who those guys are

514
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Speaker 1: around the league. That’s not Coach’s deal. What the formula

515
00:24:00,840 –> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: here is you can do everything, and that will drive

516
00:24:03,440 –> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: defenses crazy, and that’s why you get Hollywood Brown. If

517
00:24:06,480 –> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: you get him healthy, worthy fits this category and the

518
00:24:10,520 –> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: rest of the receiving corps for the most part. But

519
00:24:12,880 –> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: that’s unique. But it’s a great example of being in

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Speaker 1: concert and very rare.

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Speaker 3: And that scheme is why the Chiefs are able to

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Speaker 3: weather injuries when they happen. The whole next man up

523
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Speaker 3: philosophy only works if the next man up is able

524
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Speaker 3: to fill in the role of the player that is injured,

525
00:24:27,760 –> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: and then you only have so many players in your roster.

526
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Speaker 3: It’s hard to do that sometimes. A good example of

527
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Speaker 3: this is during the preseason, Cornell Powell had that great

528
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Speaker 3: touchdown right, it’s physical, long touchdown against the Lions. Apparently

529
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Speaker 3: he wasn’t supposed to be in there on that play.

530
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Speaker 3: I can’t remember who was, but a player got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Cornell had to go in and on one snap scores

532
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Speaker 3: a touchdown. That’s the preseason, it’s different, but that kind

533
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Speaker 3: of thing happens in the regular season all the time.

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Speaker 3: There are so many plays over the years where it’s

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00:24:55,720 –> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: a great memorable play in Chief’s history. Well, some player

536
00:24:59,480 –> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: was in there, maybe wasn’t supposed to be, but someone

537
00:25:01,680 –> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 3: got hurt. This guy had to fill in and help

538
00:25:03,920 –> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: to create a moment that we all remember. Those things

539
00:25:07,160 –> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: only happen because coach Reed knows how to put people

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Speaker 3: in place to succeed. And if you only rely on

541
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Speaker 3: your starters on paper, you’re not going to get very

542
00:25:14,119 –> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: far in the NFL. That’s why this time of year

543
00:25:16,640 –> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: is so important to refine the roster, to find every

544
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Speaker 3: single player who maybe you’re not going to see a

545
00:25:21,600 –> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: whole lot on offense or defense during the year, but

546
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Speaker 3: when they have their opportunity late in the season, if

547
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Speaker 3: a player is hurt, they have to be able to

548
00:25:27,800 –> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: go out there and play and find success. And that

549
00:25:30,720 –> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: versatility point and that mental readiness point that we look

550
00:25:33,680 –> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: for and players that are going to fill those roles,

551
00:25:37,240 –> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: that’s important. It’s hard to find those guys, and our

552
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Speaker 3: scouting staff and our coaching staff is the best at

553
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Speaker 3: finding those players in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Well stated a next area of the formulating my opinion

555
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Speaker 1: of why the Chiefs have been able to win consistently

556
00:25:48,520 –> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: in the league. That’s set up. Not to do that

557
00:25:50,920 –> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: is always remain creative. This is a franchise and this

558
00:25:54,520 –> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: is part of not being the smartest guy or Gallon

559
00:25:56,600 –> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: the room, even though you might be because coaches most

560
00:25:59,400 –> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: of the time will be, or Patrick will be. But

561
00:26:01,800 –> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: the point is the fact that you always stay creative.

562
00:26:04,640 –> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Now we know about Patrick behind the back passes and

563
00:26:07,280 –> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Nola passes and left handed passes. That’s creative. But I

564
00:26:10,359 –> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: also mean within structure. This is a franchise that go, well,

565
00:26:13,800 –> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: this is what we do. Here’s what we do, and

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Speaker 1: you’re going to deal with it. There is a template,

567
00:26:18,359 –> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: there’s a base. But for twelve years, I have seen

568
00:26:22,680 –> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: this team in all three phases, all three phases, including

569
00:26:26,800 –> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: special teams, try to remain creative. For example, the Ravens

570
00:26:32,240 –> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: are coming to town on Thursday, pretty fresh played them

571
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Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. There is a whole bunch

572
00:26:38,400 –> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: of stuff the Ravens have not seen because in this

573
00:26:41,680 –> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: offseason coach Read and Spags have put together new stuff.

574
00:26:46,840 –> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: They just stay on the cutting edge all the time.

575
00:26:49,680 –> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: For businesses who have the R and D department, the

576
00:26:52,280 –> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: chiefs are in the R and D research and development

577
00:26:54,520 –> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: phase all the time. And I think as a professional

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00:26:58,960 –> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, or any professional franchise, any college team

579
00:27:02,480 –> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: for that matter, you can get stuck. You can get stuck.

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00:27:05,480 –> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: This has been successful. Here’s what we are, here’s what

581
00:27:07,520 –> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: we do. Recruit to this, go get free agents to

582
00:27:10,480 –> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: this where the Chiefs all the time are trying to

583
00:27:13,560 –> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: keep it fresh and new. And I admire him about that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is a rare trait in professional

585
00:27:19,600 –> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: sports overall.

586
00:27:20,680 –> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: In the NFL and specific.

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Speaker 3: Can I give you an example of coach Treats adaptability

588
00:27:24,560 –> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: over the years. So I give his exact anecdote on

589
00:27:28,840 –> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: the radio a little while ago. If you listen to that.

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00:27:30,880 –> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: I apologize for repeating myself right now, but this is incredible.

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00:27:34,440 –> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: So during Coach Reed’s first five years in Philadelphia, the

592
00:27:38,000 –> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Eagles ran four thousand, nine hundred and sixteen offensive places. Okay,

593
00:27:43,640 –> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: of those, twenty nine of them took place out of

594
00:27:47,440 –> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: the shotgun. Just incredible, Like they did not run hardly

595
00:27:51,880 –> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: any plays out of the shotgun. Okay, just last year alone,

596
00:27:55,720 –> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: the Chiefs ran eight hundred and sixty nine snaps out

597
00:27:58,680 –> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: of the shotgun. He’s completely changed his offensive formula, completely

598
00:28:02,480 –> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: changed it. So like you’re saying some coaches they have

599
00:28:05,720 –> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: their system, I am a genius. This system works. I

600
00:28:09,280 –> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: have brought it to the league. This is going to

601
00:28:11,320 –> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: work forever and then when it stops working, those coaches

602
00:28:14,440 –> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: get phased out, and we can all think of these

603
00:28:16,280 –> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: coaches that have been these geniuses and then they go

604
00:28:19,400 –> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: away when their system didn’t work anymore. Coach Reed is

605
00:28:22,720 –> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: running a completely different offensive scheme and system today than

606
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Speaker 3: he was when he first came into the league twenty

607
00:28:29,000 –> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: years ago. And he’s still the best offensive mind in

608
00:28:31,560 –> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: the NFL because he continually finds ways to take advantage

609
00:28:34,600 –> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: of the opponent, to put his players in the best

610
00:28:36,640 –> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: position to succeed, to take advantage of what his players

611
00:28:39,640 –> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: do well. So many coaches don’t do that. They say,

612
00:28:42,120 –> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: this is my system. I’m going to put my players

613
00:28:44,440 –> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: into my system and it will work. If it doesn’t work,

614
00:28:46,560 –> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: it’s the player’s fault. CoA Tree doesn’t look at it

615
00:28:48,800 –> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: that way. He says, how can I put my players

616
00:28:51,120 –> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: in a position to succeed? And he’s done that over

617
00:28:53,720 –> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: the course of his career, and it’s so fun to

618
00:28:55,560 –> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: look at really the raw numbers about how much he

619
00:28:58,000 –> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: has changed because Coach Reed today. I think if you

620
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Speaker 3: took Coach Reid from nineteen ninety nine and said, hey,

621
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Speaker 3: look at this scheme you’re going to be running in

622
00:29:05,120 –> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: twenty years he’d be like, what is this? But it’s

623
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Speaker 3: what he’s figured out over the years, and it works

624
00:29:10,760 –> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: for him now and hopefully he coaches more years in

625
00:29:13,560 –> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: the future and have more creative and crazy ideas up

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Speaker 3: his sleeve.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you another example. When he first came here,

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Speaker 1: he sought out Chris Alt who was the defender, who

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Speaker 1: was the creator, by the way, the original creator of

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Speaker 1: the pistol offense at the University of Nevada. So he

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Speaker 1: sought him out, had him as consultant basically. And then

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Speaker 1: Brad Childers, you remember he was here originally and of

633
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Speaker 1: course was a coach in Philadelphia and went all the

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Speaker 1: way back to Northern Arizona. This is one of the

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00:29:42,080 –> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: things I love about coach and I mentioned this too before.

636
00:29:45,040 –> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: He extracted something from every one of his coaching stops,

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Speaker 1: whether it’s San Francisco State, think a coach Melvin played

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Speaker 1: for him. He’s still here utep that’s Dave Tobe where

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00:29:54,760 –> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: he got that. You can look at the influence he

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Speaker 1: had at the University of Missouri that includes tob there.

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Speaker 1: Northern a Arizona was Brad Childress the time in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You know his relationships with John Gruden, which we saw

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Speaker 1: this year at training camp, or Mooch or those guys

644
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Speaker 1: that were on that staff and then with his group

645
00:30:12,240 –> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: and now he’s got his own disciples. But when he goes,

646
00:30:15,800 –> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: I’ve got to study the pistol because he didn’t run

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Speaker 1: the pistol at all at Philadelphia. And we’ll be in

648
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Speaker 1: the pistol more than you think sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Because back then that wasn’t a pro style offense.

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Speaker 1: You don’t run a college. You can’t run college in

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00:30:28,520 –> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: the pros. Coach doesn’t care. But Spags is the same way.

652
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Speaker 1: And Spags is always thinking mad scientists because he has

653
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Speaker 1: some of the most exotic blitzes in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: But to do that, it leads to my final point,

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Speaker 1: and I think in the formula to do this stuff,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you have got to look at mental

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Speaker 1: and physical toughness. Okay, we can talk about that a

658
00:30:52,520 –> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: lot at football at all levels and in the NFL.

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00:30:54,600 –> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: You got to be tough to play this game, yes,

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Speaker 1: But I’m going to add something that’s part of the

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Speaker 1: formula here, and that is looking for intelligence and emotional

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Speaker 1: and mental maturity. That’s the reason a team can be

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Speaker 1: down by twenty four and win by twenty. A team

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Speaker 1: can be down by ten and win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: three straight times. We’ve trailed by ten points in every

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Speaker 1: one of these Super Bowl championships. And an exhibit a

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Speaker 1: of this is Patrick Mahomes. He is we see all

668
00:31:21,960 –> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: the crazy physical skills and all that, and going back

669
00:31:25,080 –> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: to the humility, he and Travis Kelsey both are never

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Speaker 1: one to say I’ve got to be the highest paid

671
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Speaker 1: guy at my position. I even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Guys will do that in the last ten minutes. Those

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00:31:37,440 –> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: guys will go, wait a minute, I’m going to get paid. Okay, here,

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Speaker 1: we’ll figure this out. We’ll work in concert and get

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Speaker 1: it done. And by the way, then you’re throwing I

676
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Speaker 1: mean okay. So and Kelsey is the highest paid tight

677
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Speaker 1: end now, but he was, you know, George Kittle gave

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Speaker 1: him crap about not he can break the market. Well,

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00:31:51,080 –> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: he is with one hundred million dollar podcast, or he’s

680
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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live, he’s Adam Sandler movie like it’s all

681
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Speaker 1: the other stuff. He’ll have way more than anybody else.

682
00:31:59,280 –> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: But when you look at their mental and emotional, physical toughness,

683
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Speaker 1: mental toughness, and their maturity and the twenty twenty two

684
00:32:05,640 –> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: draft class is this group Carloftis McDuffie, Brian Cook, go

685
00:32:10,360 –> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: right down the line, jaywill Leo Chanal. That’s how you

686
00:32:14,320 –> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: win on the road in the postseason, and that’s how

687
00:32:17,440 –> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: you win when you’re ten points down because they have

688
00:32:20,160 –> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: a certain level of emotional and mental maturity they bring

689
00:32:23,240 –> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: to work every day. So if you don’t recruit to that,

690
00:32:26,760 –> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: if you don’t go look for that, if that’s not

691
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Speaker 1: a priority for you, then there’s no way you can

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Speaker 1: get this formula.

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Speaker 3: And they’re always steady no matter what’s going on. Look

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Speaker 3: at the peaks and valleys of the last couple of years.

695
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Speaker 3: When things are going really, really well, you don’t see

696
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Speaker 3: them going crazy throwing a party for winning a regular

697
00:32:44,360 –> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: season game. They’re going to smile and enjoy it in

698
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Speaker 3: the locker room, but then it’s on to the next one.

699
00:32:48,960 –> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: And at the same time, when things are not going well,

700
00:32:51,520 –> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: it’s human nature to be like, hey, you should get mad,

701
00:32:54,320 –> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: you should lash out, you should say something in the media,

702
00:32:56,760 –> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 3: call somebody out. None of them do it. They just

703
00:32:58,760 –> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: put all the blame on themselves. They take accountability for

704
00:33:01,680 –> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: whatever happened, even if it wasn’t their fault, and look

705
00:33:04,640 –> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: inwards and they get better because of that, the team

706
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Speaker 3: stays together. Think about last year. Things could have completely

707
00:33:10,520 –> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: gone off the rails after the Christmas game and it

708
00:33:12,800 –> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: was the total opposite. Says everything about the character and

709
00:33:15,920 –> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: the maturity emotionally and mentally of this team. How they

710
00:33:19,680 –> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: handled that, because that was a crossroads, it would be

711
00:33:23,280 –> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: very easy to say it is not our year. Let’s

712
00:33:25,360 –> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: pack it in. You know, we’ll play out the rest

713
00:33:28,040 –> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: of the season, we’ll retool the offseason, see what happens

714
00:33:30,680 –> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: next year, or we can learn about what happened here,

715
00:33:34,440 –> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: take accountability for what happened internally, don’t point fingers, and

716
00:33:38,280 –> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: get better because of this. And what do you know,

717
00:33:40,520 –> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: They didn’t lose a game the rest of the way

718
00:33:42,200 –> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: won the division, won the AFC, won the Super Bowl.

719
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Speaker 3: That says everything you need to know about this team.

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Speaker 3: And really, I think that is forged every year in

721
00:33:49,440 –> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: Saint Joe. As much as Saint Joe is used for

722
00:33:52,480 –> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: the physical aspect, preparing your body physically for the football season,

723
00:33:56,640 –> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: it’s also a matter of mental and emotional toughness because

724
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Speaker 3: you’re going up to Saint Joe, away from your family,

725
00:34:02,520 –> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: away from your friends, away from everything else for about

726
00:34:05,640 –> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: a month, and every day it’s hot, you’re out there practicing.

727
00:34:09,880 –> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: It’s repetitive. Every day is difficult. But when you come

728
00:34:13,160 –> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: out of it and the players that make this team,

729
00:34:15,280 –> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: you’re bonded together for the year, and when you’re down

730
00:34:17,680 –> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: ten points in the super Bowl, you look at your teammates,

731
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Speaker 3: know what you’ve gone through with them, and think that

732
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Speaker 3: you can accomplish and achieve anything with them. That’s a

733
00:34:24,400 –> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: cool thing. I feel that with you. I mean, when

734
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Speaker 3: we’re doing our stuff throughout the year and things aren’t

735
00:34:28,640 –> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: going well, we’ve been through stuff together, you know, and

736
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Speaker 3: that equates to a football team as well. Not every

737
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Speaker 3: team is like that. Not every team really cares to

738
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Speaker 3: be like that. And what’s so exciting about this team

739
00:34:38,880 –> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: is they want to be that way because it matters

740
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Speaker 3: in the end.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I’m glad you brought up the Raiders game.

742
00:34:43,360 –> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: I brag up the twenty two draft class, and I

743
00:34:45,320 –> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: always say you’d hire every one of them, you’d work

744
00:34:47,320 –> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: for every one of them. But the twenty one draft

745
00:34:49,560 –> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: class was a group last year too, because those guys

746
00:34:52,920 –> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of led the way at that point of the season,

747
00:34:55,480 –> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: most notably Creed Humphrey and tray Smith, the defensive line

748
00:34:58,480 –> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: took they said no, no, we’re going to take this

749
00:35:00,360 –> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: on and that’s not going to happen again because they

750
00:35:03,280 –> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: felt responsible for it.

751
00:35:04,360 –> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: And the Raiders had a great.

752
00:35:05,400 –> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: Pass Russian scheme that day. And then Patrick’s always there

753
00:35:08,840 –> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: with that. But that twenty one and Nick Bolton fits

754
00:35:11,560 –> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: this rule. Okay, these guys are right in the middle

755
00:35:14,280 –> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: of it that sometimes they don’t have to say a word.

756
00:35:16,880 –> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes they do. But the fact that they are just

757
00:35:19,760 –> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: so mentally and physically tough and emotionally and mentally mature

758
00:35:23,600 –> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: makes them an elite level along with their athletic talent.

759
00:35:28,000 –> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: And again that’s easily overlooked or taken for granted. And

760
00:35:31,440 –> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: unless you’re a team that wants to say, hey, we’re

761
00:35:33,480 –> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: going to leave all of our egos at the door

762
00:35:35,080 –> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: here and recruit that way, or look for free agency,

763
00:35:38,880 –> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: or have your whole organization be that way, because this

764
00:35:41,400 –> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: organization is that way, starting with the Hunt family, then

765
00:35:46,440 –> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: just continue to chase because you can be jealous. It’s

766
00:35:50,200 –> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of counterculture right now, to be honest with you,

767
00:35:53,040 –> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: this is such an egocentric thing. I got to be

768
00:35:54,920 –> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: the highest paid dude. I’m going to try to you know,

769
00:35:57,840 –> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: I’m going to try to run the team as a player.

770
00:36:01,040 –> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: I’ve got to be a GM that’s you know, it’s

771
00:36:03,400 –> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: my team or no team. And where the coach tries

772
00:36:06,080 –> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: to do a coupd ata. I mean that’s stuff. I’ve

773
00:36:08,800 –> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: lived all that, man, and I’ve lived all that, and

774
00:36:10,640 –> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: it just does not work. What the Chiefs have now,

775
00:36:13,120 –> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: this formula is a prototype for every professional franchise.

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00:36:17,080 –> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: And you need buy in from everyone to the leadership

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00:36:19,680 –> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: for it to work. One thing to talk about it.

778
00:36:21,480 –> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: I think a lot of coaches have good intentions and

779
00:36:23,680 –> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: want to establish a culture like that, but it’s difficult

780
00:36:26,920 –> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: to do so. The thing that we’re so fortunate to

781
00:36:29,520 –> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: have here with the Chiefs is that Coach Red has

782
00:36:32,520 –> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: the agency where he demands that buy in. But people

783
00:36:36,440 –> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: want to buy in because they believe in it, they’ve

784
00:36:38,640 –> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: seen the results of it. And when you establish a

785
00:36:41,160 –> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: culture like that, it kind of snowballs in a good

786
00:36:43,600 –> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: way over time, where no matter what happens. Think about

787
00:36:46,960 –> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, the Chiefs start three and

788
00:36:48,760 –> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: four and we had that disastrous game in Tennessee. Nobody panicked.

789
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Nobody panicked from then on out made it all the

790
00:36:54,760 –> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: way to the AFC Championship Game, a game we hosted.

791
00:36:57,440 –> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: So when you have a coach like coach read ownership

792
00:37:00,480 –> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: like the Hunt family, you have Brett Veach in a

793
00:37:02,239 –> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: position where he’s putting this roster together. Everyone believes in

794
00:37:07,280 –> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: these guys. They believe in them because they’ve they have

795
00:37:10,239 –> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt, they’ve earned it, and that

796
00:37:12,280 –> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: creates a culture that then dissipates throughout the entire team.

797
00:37:15,200 –> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: We’re fortunate that we have that here because it is

798
00:37:17,480 –> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: only going to get better here over the years. It

799
00:37:19,960 –> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: doesn’t happen everywhere, and many teams, many people will go

800
00:37:22,880 –> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: their whole life and never see their team have that

801
00:37:24,600 –> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: kind of culture. So very fortunate to have the formula

802
00:37:27,440 –> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 3: here in Kansas City. Let’s see what it produces here

803
00:37:29,360 –> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four.

804
00:37:30,960 –> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Well, I wish we had Alan Wright and his horn

805
00:37:33,120 –> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: going eh, which means a period change, yep, But he

806
00:37:37,760 –> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: means the curtain is ready to open on the twenty

807
00:37:40,440 –> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: twenty fourth season. Everyone knows the Chiefs are chasing history

808
00:37:44,800 –> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: and they’ll do so by using the formula. And we’ll

809
00:37:50,000 –> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: see where this goes from here

810
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Speaker 2: To the

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