Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Chiefs Reporter Matt McMullen – plus various special guests – break down the latest news and storylines in Chiefs Kingdom.
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Speaker 1: Thank you Danage on the day, will you get opportunity
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Speaker 1: to game they can play. He don’t touchdown Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs all right in the thick of it, baby,
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Speaker 1: And welcome once again to another episode of Defending the Kingdom,
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Speaker 1: which alters with you the voice of the Chiefs along
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Speaker 1: with the Matt stat himself, senior team reporter Matt McMullen.
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Speaker 1: This episode, as we are nearing the end of the
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Speaker 1: OTAs and getting ready for mandatory minicamp, will be entitled
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Speaker 1: the More you Can do. It is a phrase that
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Speaker 1: has been around the NFL for some time. But if
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Speaker 1: you’re a member of Andy Reid’s football team and around
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom, no one in the league I think
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Speaker 1: personifies that mantra more than the Kansas City Chiefs. We’ll
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Speaker 1: do a deep dive into it, but first the defending
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Speaker 1: the Kingdom ritual here of let’s go around the world.
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Speaker 1: Let’s do it so once again, I have thirteen names
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Speaker 1: and places here, of course, in honor of thirteen seconds.
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Speaker 1: So we have Jason and Warrensburg exactly forty seven miles away,
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Speaker 1: he pointed out, You see him, mules, there we go
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Speaker 1: National champions A few years ago good in baseball. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Gary in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. We have a listener
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Speaker 1: in Nairobi, Kenya. Yeah, I think it’s the first time
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Speaker 1: we’ve been in Kenya. We have Mike from Saint Joe.
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Speaker 1: We’ll see in a about a month. Mike month a
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Speaker 1: month and a half. M Martin from Bathurst, Australia. He
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Speaker 1: says it’s Australia’s oldest inland city. Pretty cool. So Martin
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Speaker 1: in Australia. We have Leon and Aurora, Colorado, but he’s
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Speaker 1: there by way of California. He was there for several
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Speaker 1: years before that, so he’s been getting closer exact coming
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Speaker 1: back to us, yeah, but planting his flag and numerous
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Speaker 1: spots all over the country. We have Jeannette in South
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, a listener in Topeka, Keith in Tacoma, Washington,
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Speaker 1: Chris and Midtown Kansas City, Darnell and Denver, Jim in
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Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. And Bill and McPherson Kansas. McPherson get
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Speaker 1: it right, just saying that first it’s my wife’s hometown,
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Speaker 1: I know, and it’s like I no, no, you can,
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Speaker 1: and so she’ll always she’ll just do it before you
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Speaker 1: see her again, kasten to this. Yeah, the Home of
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Speaker 1: the Bullpups named after General McPherson. The Battle of Atlanta anyway,
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Speaker 1: but McPherson Home of the Bullpups. Great athletes coming out
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Speaker 1: of there, and some NFL players, including guys like Vic
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Speaker 1: Chandler played in the NFL Okay couple of of course
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Speaker 1: hit us both on Twitter here, but there’s nothing like
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Speaker 1: Fresno Frasier. Fresno Frasier. Shout out to Fresno Frasier repping
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Speaker 1: the Kingdom of course in the valley at Fresno, California.
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Speaker 1: Love that. And then another one from the is it
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Speaker 1: Chante Durham. He’s originally from Kansas City, but he’s lived
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Speaker 1: in the UK for twenty three years and loves the show.
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Speaker 1: But we know that the UK embraces defending the Kingdom. Yeah, DTK.
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Speaker 1: We had the Arrowheads abroad here back in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 1: I think some awesome guys. I think a few of
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Speaker 1: them are coming back this year. They are what game
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Speaker 1: is it? Because they’ve tried to give the warning to everyone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I’ll have to ask them. I’m not sure. I’m sure
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Speaker 1: they’ll listen to this, but yeah, looking forward to seeing
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Speaker 1: them too. Lots of fans in the UK, well, lots
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Speaker 1: of fans that are interested in this twenty two Kansas
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Speaker 1: City chief season because we know there has been a
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Speaker 1: lot of change. And if you have listener watched the
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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom’s going all the way back to early March,
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Speaker 1: you can kind of follow this path. Well now again
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Speaker 1: to the last week of the offseason training activities, but
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Speaker 1: next week will be the mandatory minicamp. This week we’re
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Speaker 1: going to spend on defending the Kingdom. More the more
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Speaker 1: you can do. And you’ve heard that phrase a lot
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League for years, but for the
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs ever since Andy Reid drove into the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom and changed everything forever. Wow, Matt, I can’t
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Speaker 1: think of every spot on this team, maybe other than
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Speaker 1: quarterback fits this because you can’t pigeonhole a guy anywhere.
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Speaker 1: To me, because they are challenged to do as much
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Speaker 1: as they can possibly do and learn as much as
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Speaker 1: they can possibly learn. Yeah, it’s really twofold, I think.
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Speaker 1: So if you think about the starters on this team
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Speaker 1: and the players that you see a lot, they have
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Speaker 1: to be versatile because coach red at least offensively, wants
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Speaker 1: to do a million different things with them. And that’s
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Speaker 1: why this offense has been so good and so dangerous
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Speaker 1: for years now, is because the players may come and go,
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Speaker 1: but he finds a way to take advantage of their
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Speaker 1: strengths and numerous ways. So we’ve seen that for years
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Speaker 1: with coach Read and defensively, it’s the same way with
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Speaker 1: Spags because we always talk about how there’s not really
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Speaker 1: corners or safeties with the Chiefs, it’s defensive backs, and
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Speaker 1: that speaks to their versatility. And the other part of
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Speaker 1: this is right now, there’s ninety guys on the Chiefs roster.
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Speaker 1: They’ll go to training camp with ninety guys and you’ll
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Speaker 1: see in at least the first preseason game a lot
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Speaker 1: more guys than what will be here when the season
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Speaker 1: rolls around. So how do those guys earn their spots
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Speaker 1: that are at maybe that bottom third of the roster.
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Speaker 1: It’s being versatile and we’ve been seeing throughout OTAs and
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Speaker 1: we’ll see it a mini camp. We’ll see it in
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Speaker 1: training camp. Guys playing in numerous positions because if you
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Speaker 1: can do two or three things pretty well, that might
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Speaker 1: earn you a spot when it comes to cut down
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Speaker 1: day in September. We are not kidding about this. In fact,
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Speaker 1: earlier during a media session, Chiefs running back former first
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Speaker 1: round draft pick Clyde Edwards Hilaire was asked this specific
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Speaker 1: question and Clyde articulates it very well. The Chiefs just
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Speaker 1: start any other team. Everybody brings something different to the table,
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Speaker 1: and that’s the That’s the great thing about this offense
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Speaker 1: is you can stick anybody anywhere, and as long as
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Speaker 1: we know what we’re doing and executing it can it
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Speaker 1: can be unmatched depending on you know, as far as
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Speaker 1: our matchups. I can line up from in one, two, three,
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Speaker 1: spot four and run any any route as far as
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Speaker 1: the route tree track can do the same thing from
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Speaker 1: NVS to Juju to McCole. So it just shows you
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Speaker 1: And now everybody just has to play our matchup and
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Speaker 1: it’s not the same thing that they’ve been in the
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Speaker 1: last six years. Right, So there you go. A running
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Speaker 1: back is asked to do so many things. Let’s take
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. Every wide receiver on this team
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Speaker 1: is asked to basically learn three languages in football jargon.
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Speaker 1: You could play the ax or the Z, the split
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Speaker 1: in the flanker or the y position or the slot
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Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. If you’re gonna play wide
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Speaker 1: receiver for Frandy Reid, you need to know every position.
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Speaker 1: You’re asked to actually learn Spanish, German, and Greek all
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Speaker 1: at the same time. And that’s what is interesting about
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Speaker 1: the OTAs man. I can’t imagine a world without OTAs.
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Speaker 1: I know that sounds like old school, But what are
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Speaker 1: these other teams doing? Because Andy Reid uses this is
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Speaker 1: somewhat of an aptitude test, like an SAT or an
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Speaker 1: SAT act to see if, like specifically the wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: how much can they handle. Well, there’s a reason that
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Speaker 1: those other teams aren’t playing in the conference title game
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Speaker 1: every single year. And obviously the Chiefs are doing that
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Speaker 1: because they have a lot of talent, but also because
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Speaker 1: they get on this stuff in May and in June.
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Speaker 1: And what co Treat said over and over again is
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Speaker 1: they’re throwing the book at these guys. I mean, it’s
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Speaker 1: more stuff than most people can probably handle. But you
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Speaker 1: figure out a lot about a player up here in
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Speaker 1: their mind when you’re throwing the stuff at him over
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Speaker 1: and over again, and basically OTAs in mini camp are
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Speaker 1: essentially a passing camp. I mean there’s no live contact
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Speaker 1: a lot of running going on, and that’s a great opport.
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Speaker 1: No need to figure out what routes can you run?
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Speaker 1: And for all the new receivers that are here on
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Speaker 1: a lot of other players that are fighting for a
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Speaker 1: Justin Watson from Tampa Bay. Lots of exciting players who
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Speaker 1: are fighting for a role on this team. How do
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Speaker 1: you earn that spot? You find a way to run
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Speaker 1: the entire route tree. You find ways to be useful.
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Speaker 1: And it’s not just on offense either, it’s also one
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Speaker 1: special teams. And I don’t mean just as a kick
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Speaker 1: on special teams? Can you go out there and punt
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Speaker 1: coverage and make a tackle? Those kind of things are
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Speaker 1: how you earn a role on this team. For maybe
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Speaker 1: those guys fighting for a spot, and for the guys
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Speaker 1: that we know will be on this team, guys like MVS.
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Speaker 1: And Juju and sky More. What kind of routes can
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Speaker 1: you run? Like I said, and how can you help
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Speaker 1: this offense beyond maybe one role that you’re really good at.
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Speaker 1: What new things can you learn and help this team? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: an MBS. The last session we got to watch, MBS
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Speaker 1: had had to make a one handed catch of a
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Speaker 1: no look pass from Patrick Mahomes. It’s side arm, no look,
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Speaker 1: and it was about a thirty yard pass across the field.
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Speaker 1: So that’s what you work on an OTAs and to
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Speaker 1: skip it, I can’t imagine. We’re also seeing sky More
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Speaker 1: get integrated more to no pun intended because of getting
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Speaker 1: his hamstring up and running. You mentioned Juju Smith Schuster
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Speaker 1: and your points an interesting one because people always want
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Speaker 1: to say how many wide receivers will you keep? Is
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Speaker 1: at five or is at six? And when you play
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Speaker 1: fantasy football, you’re concerned about the War one with a
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Speaker 1: War two because you’re in the fantasy league and you
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Speaker 1: want to beat Gizmo down the street. But for the
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Speaker 1: like spinning a roulette wheel. It could be somebody one
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Speaker 1: week and somebody else the next. The other point that
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Speaker 1: is if those other three re receivers that aren’t out
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Speaker 1: there the most of the time, like Juju Smith Schuster
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Speaker 1: be excluded, Mark Quisveldo scanlinging him, Icole Hardman. But if
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Speaker 1: you are a Justin Watson who’s been impressive in OTAs
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Speaker 1: or Josh Gordon, you’ve got to be a special team’s contributor.
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Speaker 1: There aren’t enough guys, and I don’t know if fans,
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Speaker 1: if let’sten to a deep dive into it, realize it.
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Speaker 1: And Corey Coleman, Deres Fountain, Cornell Powell. A lot of
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Speaker 1: good solid receivers in this camp and they can’t all
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Speaker 1: make the team. So if you’re in that bottom group,
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Speaker 1: you have to find a way to earn your spot
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Speaker 1: beyond just offense. And if you’re looking at it, roster
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Speaker 1: math is fun, particularly roster math in June, because everything
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Speaker 1: could change. But there’s really four receivers that for sure
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Speaker 1: will be on the squad. You have to imagine Juju mvs.
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Speaker 1: McColl and sky more. But then there’s a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys fighting for maybe two spots and you can’t earn
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Speaker 1: that all on offense because frankly, there’s not enough for
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Speaker 1: reps to go around for those guys. So you have
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Speaker 1: here over the next several months. The dbs and you
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Speaker 1: alluded to it very much like the wide receivers. If
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Speaker 1: you’re going to be on this list, whether you’re an
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Speaker 1: S or a CB or really you gotta be both.
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Speaker 1: You have to be a special team’s contributor, even if
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Speaker 1: you’re a starter. We have seen that happen with Dave Tobe.
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Speaker 1: So that discussion, how many you keep five corners for safeties?
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Speaker 1: Do you keep six over four? That decision usually means
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Speaker 1: at the second half of that group, you have to
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Speaker 1: be a four core special teamer. Speaking of dbs, let’s
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Speaker 1: pull off here on the side of the road for
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Speaker 1: just a second because it was exciting earlier here in
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom because Brandon Flowers two thousand and eight
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Speaker 1: draft pick for the Kansas City Chiefs, eighty eight games
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Speaker 1: is a Chief six years, seventeen interceptions, is a Chief
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Speaker 1: pro bowler, famous, of course for the pick six against
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, running into the black hole when they were
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Speaker 1: playing back in Oakland and putting his foot up on
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Speaker 1: the football and given the double flex. If you can
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Speaker 1: find that photo, count the birds in that photo and
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Speaker 1: it’s not the Birds of Capistrano. We’ll just leave it
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Speaker 1: at that. Very interesting reaction from the folks in the
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Speaker 1: black hole on that pick six. But for beat Out Flowers,
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Speaker 1: it was great to see him and he retired as
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Speaker 1: a Chief. So cool that he was here today and
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Speaker 1: got to retire as a Chief. Because I think about
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Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers. I talked to you about this earlier. It’s
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Speaker 1: im twenty nine years old. The first team that was
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Speaker 1: really my Chief’s team was like Trent Green, Priest Holmestante Hall,
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Speaker 1: Eddie Kennison, all those guys. But the first team that
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Speaker 1: I watched where I truly felt like I knew what
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Speaker 1: was going on was like Brandon Flowers, Eric Barry, Derry Johnson,
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Speaker 1: Tom Bahali, those guys Jamal Charles and see them come
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Speaker 1: through to see Brandon Flowers, who was so good in
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Speaker 1: his time here. I mean from twenty two thirteen. He
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Speaker 1: was one of only two players with ninety or more
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Speaker 1: passes defense, fifteen or more interceptions, and ten or more
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Speaker 1: tackles for loss. Just a really solid player that was
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Speaker 1: really good for a long time here. And to have
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Speaker 1: him honored in this way I think was really special.
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Speaker 1: His family was here, he is family to us in
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom had a chance to chat with Brandon Flowers.
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Speaker 1: All right, now a little bit of a turn in
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Speaker 1: this episode of Defending the Kingdom because we welcome back
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Speaker 1: for his official retirement here. One of my favorite players
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Speaker 1: in my brief twenty nine years would be in the
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Speaker 1: voice to the Chiefs b Dot himself. Brandon Flowers. First
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Speaker 1: of all, congratulations on a moment of coming back home.
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Speaker 1: So you’re thoughts on getting back into this building and
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Speaker 1: seeing everybody. It feels so good, you know, just pulling
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Speaker 1: up to the stadium give you chills, you know, just
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Speaker 1: thinking about the war, chance of seeing everybody that I
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Speaker 1: missed for so long, coming in the locker room and
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Speaker 1: seeing that sea of red feeling that sea of red
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Speaker 1: made me just want to suit a one more time
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Speaker 1: to put it in that red. But that’s just what
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Speaker 1: this building due to you. You know, it’s a special place.
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Speaker 1: We’re all about family here, great fan base, it’s this
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Speaker 1: is a special just community all in one when you
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Speaker 1: talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. So I definitely appreciate
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Speaker 1: it everything throughout my years here, and I’m even more
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Speaker 1: appreciative just coming back and just soaking it in nine
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Speaker 1: year NFL career six with the Chiefs Pro Bowl. You’re
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But here’s your stat for this episode. Eighty
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Speaker 1: eight regular season games with the Chiefs, seventeen interceptions. That
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Speaker 1: means one in every five games. B Dot was having
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Speaker 1: the pick. But the most famous pick six you ever had?
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Speaker 1: What about the one against the Raiders? And now there’s
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Speaker 1: one of the great photos in Chiefs Kingdom history. Have
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Speaker 1: you’ve given the double flex in front of the black hole? Oh? Man,
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Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite It has to be
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Speaker 1: my favorite play, you know in uniform, just on the road.
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Speaker 1: You know, whenever a player plays on the road, it’s
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Speaker 1: just something special about hearing booze and when you make
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Speaker 1: a play, just how the crowd just have to look
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Speaker 1: at you. But doing it against the Oakland Raiders before
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Speaker 1: they moved to La It’s just I meant the Vegas.
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Speaker 1: It was just so surreal. You know. I pictured that
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Speaker 1: interception just all in the pregame because it was on
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Speaker 1: that play. I knew if they came in this formation,
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Speaker 1: they ran this route, I was going with it. So
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Speaker 1: just to see it all come to fruition. And when
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Speaker 1: I got to the end zone the night before, I’m like, listen,
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Speaker 1: if I get this interception, I’m definitely standing on the football.
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Speaker 1: Hayden’s gonna have to be mad because I’m gonna get
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Speaker 1: a flag and I’m gonna flex into this black hole.
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Speaker 1: And then it was worth it. Todd even told me,
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Speaker 1: I’ll take that fifteen yards if you go get a
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Speaker 1: touchdown for me. But just to see the Raider’s reaction
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Speaker 1: when I did that, I know extuned them deep. So
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Speaker 1: that made me feel a little bit more better. You know.
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Speaker 1: After I did it. There were a lot of birds
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Speaker 1: in this photo, but it wasn’t the birds like the
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Speaker 1: Audubon Society. We’ll just leave it at that. But what
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Speaker 1: an incredible career and the fact that you were really
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Speaker 1: trained for this. Let me let me ask you this too.
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Speaker 1: When the Chiefs one Super Bowl fifty four is ironic
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Speaker 1: because it happened in Miami, and at the end of
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Speaker 1: that game, there was guys that were fleshing in front
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Speaker 1: of my face that I’m thinking, I hope they feel this.
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Speaker 1: So it was in your home area where you grew up.
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Speaker 1: Did you feel a part of that championship. I definitely
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Speaker 1: felt a part of it. And I actually was at
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Speaker 1: the stadium. I actually was calling a game from a
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Speaker 1: net for a network in London, so I actually in
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Speaker 1: the press box and the whole time I was just like,
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Speaker 1: they gotta get this done. They have to get this day.
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Speaker 1: And once they got it done, when they ran on
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Speaker 1: the field, I’ve seen the confetti come out. I was
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Speaker 1: just smiling from it to air. It literally felt like
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Speaker 1: I was on the field. I talked to DJ after
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Speaker 1: and a couple of guys and they felt the same
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Speaker 1: way that, Like, listen, that was our championship. Also, you
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Speaker 1: know from the blood, it’s what the tears we put
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Speaker 1: into it. We were so happy for the Chiefs to
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Speaker 1: get that ring, and we definitely felt like we are
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Speaker 1: a part of that, you know, championships, So we’re definitely
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Speaker 1: proud about that. One of the things we’re doing on
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Speaker 1: this episode is talking about how the NFL has evolved
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Speaker 1: and how, you know, what more can you do? What
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Speaker 1: have you noticed in the game? And you played corner,
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Speaker 1: but even at that corner position, you have to play
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Speaker 1: the slot. You gotta play the outside, you gotta play man,
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Speaker 1: you gotta play zone, you gotta play all these techniques.
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Speaker 1: What have you seen from the corner position of the
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Speaker 1: last several years, And what would you tell Chiefs Kingdom
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Speaker 1: fans going in because we got some young corners, you know,
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Speaker 1: be patient with the corners you have, especially why they’re young,
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Speaker 1: because it’s obviously from my time coming into the league
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Speaker 1: until now, the passing game has evolved so much and
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Speaker 1: there’s a lot of great quarterbacks. When I play, you
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Speaker 1: probably had four or five great quarterbacks. With now it’s
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Speaker 1: like they’re coming into the league and they can be
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Speaker 1: so efficient. So playing cornerback is tough right now, especially
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Speaker 1: when you’re playing outside inside and having a guy like
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes that puts up points. The opposing team has
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot more so if you
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Speaker 1: do not, if you don’t feel like you have a
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Speaker 1: lockdown cornerback. It’s not because you don’t. It’s because they’re
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Speaker 1: getting more opportunities to throw the ball because Patrick Mahomes
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Speaker 1: is always going up on that scoreboard, so a team
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Speaker 1: always have to throw the ball to come back in.
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Speaker 1: And you want to bend but not break defense, you know,
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Speaker 1: letting them just drive the ball, spend six minutes just
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Speaker 1: moving the ball, moving the ball, and then hold them
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Speaker 1: to a field goal because it’s not an individually stacked game.
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Speaker 1: Is a team game, So letting them waste their time,
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Speaker 1: let them kick a field goal. PADDI go put seven
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Speaker 1: on the board. So don’t worry about if you have
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Speaker 1: young corners and they’re giving a couple of passes up here.
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Speaker 1: And then family has always been so important to you.
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Speaker 1: As excited as I was to see you, it’s excited
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Speaker 1: to see your family because it was just my life
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Speaker 1: was flashing in front of me, seeing your dad and
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Speaker 1: your sister and your whole family. What was the chief
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Speaker 1: family like for you and what it means not just
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Speaker 1: your biological family, but your tree family. You know. When
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Speaker 1: we pulled up to the facility yesterday, we went to
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Speaker 1: the pro shop and the first thing my dad said,
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Speaker 1: was this is home. This is family right here, and
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Speaker 1: that’s special. It’s not just me as the player that
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Speaker 1: feels like this place is special in this home, but
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Speaker 1: when your family and your parents have that same feeling.
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Speaker 1: As soon as we pulled up, Mitch and he’s seeing you,
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, my guy, Mitch, and it’s like, you’re
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Speaker 1: such a great guy. You make not just only the
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Speaker 1: players feel like they’re welcome and they’re appreciated, but when
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Speaker 1: you take it a step further and our families feel
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Speaker 1: that way when they see you, Mitch, and how you’re
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Speaker 1: so humble and you say, I’ve been here briefly twenty
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Speaker 1: nine years, Like, no, you’re a big part of this franchise.
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Speaker 1: You’re a key piece to this franchise. So for the
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Speaker 1: fact that you make us feel this way, he goes
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Speaker 1: a long way. Finally, what are you doing now? Because
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Speaker 1: you were being an analyst? You said you did Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four. What’s on your play now? So now
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Speaker 1: I took a break from being in the booth, being
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Speaker 1: in break, taking a break from being an analyst, so
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Speaker 1: now getting into acting full time. You know, sometimes as athletes,
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Speaker 1: we work so hard to be great at one thing.
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Speaker 1: We think we can be great at everything, but starting
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Speaker 1: a new career is tough. But the thing about being
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Speaker 1: an athlete, we are perfectionists, you know. We always want
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Speaker 1: to be the best at whatever we do. So right
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Speaker 1: now just taking all the strives to be like one
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Speaker 1: of the top actors in the world. So hopefully you’ll
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Speaker 1: see me on the screen coming song. Always in the
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Speaker 1: Hearts of the Chiefs Kingdom forever, recently retired, but forever
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Speaker 1: a chief. Brandon Flowers aka b Dot so be dot
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Speaker 1: always in the Hearts of the Chief’s Kingdom forever. Three
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Speaker 1: years with the Chargers. We kind of overlooked that and
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Speaker 1: he is too apparently, yeah he is too because he’d
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Speaker 1: returned as a chief. But it’s great to see him.
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Speaker 1: All right, as we close things out on this edition
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Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom talking about the more you can do,
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Speaker 1: we do want to hit the other defensive parts here
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Speaker 1: because it’s not just physically in getting tested here. Remember
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Speaker 1: the OTAs or the act and the sat for this
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Speaker 1: football roster from coach Read heading out those tests who
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Speaker 1: can handle it And to me, one very interesting thing
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Speaker 1: to watch, and you know I’ve been watching this for
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Speaker 1: weeks now is Nick Bolton, the second year linebacker, What
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Speaker 1: a great rookie year he had, in many ways historic.
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Speaker 1: The former Missoo Tiger now wears the green dot. That
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Speaker 1: means he’s getting the calls from the sideline and trying
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Speaker 1: to get that to everybody else. So although essentially his
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Speaker 1: sophomore year in the NFL, he’s being treated as a senior.
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Speaker 1: So I asked him thirty minutes ago during his presser.
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Speaker 1: Last year, around this time, you had just been drafted,
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Speaker 1: You had just figured out what team you’re going to,
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Speaker 1: You’re figuring out where you’re going to live, you’re figuring
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Speaker 1: out the playbook, all this stuff. How much more comfortable
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Speaker 1: do you feel now a year later that you’re coming
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Speaker 1: into OTAs and yeah, you’re learning a new position, but
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Speaker 1: you know everything else. You know your teammates, you know
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Speaker 1: where the cafeteria is, you know all this stuff. And
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Speaker 1: he’s like it’s a full one eighty, like it couldn’t
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Speaker 1: be any different from And I think that’s going to
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Speaker 1: empower him to really thrive in this new role. He
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Speaker 1: was just awesome last year when given opportunities. I think
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Speaker 1: everyone would agree with that. He got better as the
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Speaker 1: year went on. We knew that he would be just
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Speaker 1: a bowling ball against the run, But as the year
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Speaker 1: went on, if you look at Pro Football Focus numbers,
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Speaker 1: he got better and better against the past as the
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Speaker 1: season went on, to the point where he was pretty
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Speaker 1: good against it late in the season. And now as
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Speaker 1: the Mike, that’s what he’s going to be this season.
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Speaker 1: Not only do you have to keep building on that,
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Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you are the quarterback
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Speaker 1: of the defense in so many ways, and just based
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Speaker 1: on what we know about Nick, he’s so ready for
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Speaker 1: that role. It is a new bunch of stuff for
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Speaker 1: him to learn, but I think he’s digesting it really
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Speaker 1: well and looking great so far during these practices. And remember,
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Speaker 1: in this defense, this is not college algebra. This is
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Speaker 1: series and differential equations. And so to be the middle
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Speaker 1: linebacker of this team and where that green dot, you’ve
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Speaker 1: got to know the language better than anybody else and
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Speaker 1: be the best mathematician on the team. Finally, we’ll close
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Speaker 1: it out the defensive line and do this quickly. George
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Speaker 1: Karloft is actually fits this discussion. I think the more
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Speaker 1: you can do, but we’ve seen guys and spags will
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Speaker 1: do this. Guys, Chris Jones, guys moving outside, guys moving inside.
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Speaker 1: It’s like you can’t pigeonhold a guy into saying he
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Speaker 1: does this in this defense, or you’ll see him move
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Speaker 1: around three plays later. And Mike Danna is a good
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Speaker 1: example of that. So last year we saw Spags do
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Speaker 1: this with Mike Danna. Mike Dana is a defensive end,
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Speaker 1: but he has the flexibility to also play inside, particularly
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Speaker 1: maybe in a passing situation when you want to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of edge rushers out there on the field
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Speaker 1: in terms of their skill set at once. We’ve seen
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Speaker 1: that with Mike Danna playing some inside as well as outside,
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Speaker 1: and Tresham Wharton last year. Haven’t seen much of it
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Speaker 1: this year, but last year at times he would go
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Speaker 1: from being an interior defensive lineman too playing off the edge.
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Speaker 1: So if you have athletic players that can do different
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Speaker 1: things for you up front, it just makes your defense
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Speaker 1: that much more dangerous. I think about with Spags and
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Speaker 1: his defense that beat Tom Brady in two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: the team that went what eighteen and one Spags defense
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Speaker 1: would He’d run the four aces defense with four edge
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Speaker 1: rushers all along the defensive line. That was a course
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Speaker 1: an all time defense, but just shows how creative he’s
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Speaker 1: going to get and we’re seeing that at times out
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Speaker 1: here at practice. Yeah, if you’re gonna have those four races,
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Speaker 1: you have to have kings and jacks, is what the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are trying to build with this twenty twenty two defense.
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Speaker 1: You talk about Turk Wharton, remember the Venus flytrap interception
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Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders where he just grabbed it out
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Speaker 1: of the sky. He’s got that ability. Not the guy
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Speaker 1: to kind of sneaky. Here is Joshua Kando. He’s gonna
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Speaker 1: be one that you know watched during mandatory mini camp
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Speaker 1: and during training camp in Saint Joe. He’s Matt steat.
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Speaker 1: He is senior team reporter, Matt McMullen. You know him
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Speaker 1: and you love him. I Mitch holds the voice of
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Remember in the National Football League, especially with
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, it’s the more you can do,
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Speaker 1: touch down down and the celebration begins in their hand.



