Defending The Kingdom 4/9: “Refitting the Backpacks” – The QB Room | Creativity, Equity and the GOAT

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Speaker 1: All right in the thick of a baby. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to this edition of Defending the Kingdom. We’re

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Speaker 1: gonna jump into the quarterback situation with the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: everybody’s favorite topic. But before we do that, shop Itch

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Speaker 1: We love the red, but this is a day for blue. Well,

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Speaker 1: though um, and you know everybody is in the stay

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Speaker 1: I think the city of Kansas City will definitely show

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Speaker 1: and heroines in this time that we’re living. All right,

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Speaker 1: let’s jump into the quarterback situation. And there are four

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Speaker 1: guys right now on the current roster of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: for two months barbershop, and I have looked at every

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Speaker 1: room so far going through the roster. Then we look

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback free agents, that’s not a big part

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Speaker 1: of the discussion. But the draft is. And as I

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Speaker 1: alluded to earlier on Twitter, like why would we talk

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Speaker 1: your way of thinking or at least open up some thought.

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Speaker 1: But Patrick Mahomes, I mean, we could do the rest

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Speaker 1: for ten years? When I look at him with seventy

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Speaker 1: six touchdowns and seventeen picks in two years, his completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: Goat’s goat. But to me too is the way he

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Speaker 1: Aarleic Smith was great, but I think he learned a

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Speaker 1: lot on how to handle that room. He’s phenomenal in

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Speaker 1: our locker room, but in that quarterback room, this guy

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Speaker 1: is just for real big time. Yeah, we talk about

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Speaker 1: He’s able to identify defenses, know their strength and weaknesses,

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Speaker 1: And he’s never he’s never, He’s never trigged, no matter

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Speaker 1: arm slots, he has tremendous armed talent. But he has

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Speaker 1: that visionary and then you talk about the leadership ability

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Speaker 1: led to us being a championship team. We’ve talked about communication.

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Speaker 1: level of productivity at the quarterback position. We talk about

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Speaker 1: But the rest of this room, Chad Henny is right

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Speaker 1: But Chad Henney in that backup role, and now we

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Speaker 1: So Nat Chad Henny slips back into the backup role. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: entire quarterback room working at a higher level. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: with what Mike Kafka does. Eric, I mean a coach.

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Speaker 1: all right. Kyle Schrmer here last year look good in

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Speaker 1: that being a guy in our division at a defensive

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Speaker 1: a reason we actually went out and acquired another quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I know you’re gonna talk about him soon. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: Who’s a very interesting discussion in my opinion, and we’re

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Speaker 1: anybody go there yet with this guy. But Jordan Tamu,

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Speaker 1: who was the XFL BattleHawks quarterback for Saint louis really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Dude six three twenty one, the third highest rated quarterback

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Speaker 1: Fifty six hundred yards passing thirty touchdowns in just two years.

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Speaker 1: his ability. He played with DK Metcalf, there’s a lot

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Speaker 1: of times they hooked up at all Miss. But Tama

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Speaker 1: recruited him to be a part of this quarterback group. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talk about this league being a copycat league, and

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Speaker 1: it’s hard to say that the Chiefs have any need

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Speaker 1: or necessity to copy what anybody else is doing with

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Speaker 1: this success we’ve had on the offensive side, but you

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Speaker 1: dislocated his knee. If you can alleviate that opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Herbert’s gone, because two is gone because Burrows gone, and

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Speaker 1: you look around, there’s another four teams that you think

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Speaker 1: are interested in the quarterback position. And now it becomes

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Speaker 1: pick thirty, thirty one or thirty two. How much draft

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Speaker 1: capital are you willing to push to the table in

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Speaker 1: order to get that pick so that you can get

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Speaker 1: yourself a quarterback for the future. I think we’re gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of phone calls. I think the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: general manager of Veach his phone won’t be ringing off

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Speaker 1: the chart after about pick twenty two or twenty three

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Speaker 1: about what the Chiefs want to do with that thirty

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Speaker 1: second pick, and all of that is positive. That’s so

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Speaker 1: positive because if it gets to the position and you

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Speaker 1: see there’s still five or six guys that we really want.

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Speaker 1: Dropping down three spots, dropping him down eight spots, I

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Speaker 1: think we still get somebody that’s gonna make an impact

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Speaker 1: on this team, and then you’ll receive so much extra capital.

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Speaker 1: It’s in a win win situation. So I love sitting

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Speaker 1: at thirty two with major holes ready for a team

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Speaker 1: that can win right now, go play right now with

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Speaker 1: the guys we already got on the roster, the balls

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Speaker 1: in Beach’s court. Everybody’s gonna be calling his phone, and

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Speaker 1: most of the league again is just rocking back and

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Speaker 1: forth going how do we find Patrick Mahomes? How do

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Speaker 1: we find Patrick Mahomes? Well, we’ve got so that’s the

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Speaker 1: comforting thing. You mentioned the headliners in this discussion, and

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Speaker 1: really the other guy would be Jake from but I

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Speaker 1: think he’s going to be a mid or later round guy.

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Speaker 1: But here’s where the Chief’s Kingdom gets interested in these

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Speaker 1: guys that you mentioned as well. There’s a very real

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Speaker 1: chance here Shop that two of these three guys are

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Speaker 1: two of the four guys that you mentioned five. If

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Speaker 1: you’re gonna put love or Eston and there could end

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Speaker 1: up in this in the the AFC West, I look

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders to take a young guy to do

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Speaker 1: the Alex Smith Mahomes thing with Derek Carr and then

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Speaker 1: become the guy. We know Chargers. Taylor’s there, Tyrod Taylor’s there,

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Speaker 1: but they’re in the market to try to find a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. A lot of mock drafts have had two

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Speaker 1: a fall to them at number six. I still think

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Speaker 1: Burrow’s going to go to Cincinnati at one, but I

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Speaker 1: mean that could change. We’re still two weeks away. However,

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Speaker 1: we got to get ready and studying this class because

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Speaker 1: as I look at these guys, as I look at them,

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Speaker 1: I almost look at them as a competitor, not as

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Speaker 1: someone who would be a part of our team or

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Speaker 1: part of the equity discussion that’s later. I see love

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Speaker 1: as equity possibly hurts, but those guys above them to

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Speaker 1: me look like competitors to us. And we talk about

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Speaker 1: the importance of the NFL combine that we have for

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Speaker 1: all these guys coming out, and how important it was

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Speaker 1: to go to these guys pro dates, and that’s something

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Speaker 1: that’s missing this year, right, not having them put your

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Speaker 1: having your own deepensive staff and your scouts be able

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Speaker 1: to make a fool right up off of these guys

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Speaker 1: on their pro day. But so much work is done

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Speaker 1: in the fall throughout their college season. We know how

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks have, We know their strength and weaknesses, and

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Speaker 1: so if we have to see them during the season

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Speaker 1: in the Chargers uniform, in a Raiders unif Tom, I

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Speaker 1: think we’ll have a full evaluation, we’ll know exactly what

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Speaker 1: they what they what they have, their strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: And it’s not because we wanted to scout them because

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Speaker 1: we were thinking about drafting them. But like you said,

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Speaker 1: odds are both. There are two more teams in our division.

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Speaker 1: They’re gonna be looking to get young really quick. They’re

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Speaker 1: gonna look for a franchise spark out in LA with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, Herbert H two or either one of those

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Speaker 1: guys would be a blessings for that organization. And then

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders. UM, don’t don’t think that um Mike Mayock,

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Speaker 1: with his UH scouting background and his NFL h NCAA

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Speaker 1: scouting combat background, wouldn’t die to move up to get

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Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. He felt like everybody, let’s slide

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Speaker 1: out of the top couple picks. So I would definitely

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for the Raiders trying to get

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Speaker 1: back up at the end of the second round to

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Speaker 1: maybe go after Love or Jeling Hurts. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: Raiders have acquity because this is the Khalail mac Cash

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, they get the Khalil

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Speaker 1: Mack picks here, and so the Raiders can dictate and

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Speaker 1: be very aggressive in this draft. All right, we’ll close

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Speaker 1: it up here shop in two. Review One, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have the goat, and now all of a sudden, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be my twenty seventh year in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You and I have been on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the river because we’ve had to face the goat, figure

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Speaker 1: out how to beat the goat, throwing rocks at the giant.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got the giant, right, we have got the guy

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Speaker 1: in the leading the way who’s the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: That’s one. Two the creativity that could be involved in

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Speaker 1: this room, particularly with a guy like Jordan Tahamo. Three

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Speaker 1: building equity at the quarterback position, and four scouting this

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Speaker 1: group because a competitor or two. Maybe in this twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty draft class, well you get all the four components,

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Speaker 1: all the four building blocks of being super competitive to

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Speaker 1: being a championship mindset is not resting on your loyals

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Speaker 1: just because a position is doing well because you have

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Speaker 1: the coke or you have the next, the next great

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Speaker 1: thing in that position. You don’t take that as a

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Speaker 1: queue to slow down. You put your your pedal to

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Speaker 1: the metal, hit the accelerator, and you continue to make

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Speaker 1: everybody chase your tail. Everybody wants to chase what we

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Speaker 1: have in pat Mahome. You try to recreate it, most

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Speaker 1: of the times you’re gonna fall in your face. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can’t beat us at what we do great. Our

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Speaker 1: quarterback is great. If you try to put your quarterback

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Speaker 1: against ours on any given day, nine nine out one

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Speaker 1: hundred times our quarterbacks don’t come out victorious. So I

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Speaker 1: welcome that challenge. I welcome team to try to match

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Speaker 1: up the quarterback position against us versus making everything else

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Speaker 1: in there in there and their team a little bit

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Speaker 1: better to try to stop us. But with that said, Um,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position is a leadership position. We have we

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Speaker 1: have a guy that leads by example. Um, he’s humble. Um,

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Speaker 1: he serves the community. Um, he leads by example when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the workouts in the off season. UM.

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Speaker 1: And he’s and he’s so humble when it comes to

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Speaker 1: I’m not taking anything for granted. You look at his workouts,

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Speaker 1: how he is in the community, all these things he

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Speaker 1: just wants. He’s a football guy, heads Breeds Football one

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Speaker 1: oh one. He’s a great football player and in a

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Speaker 1: great asset to the organization. And like you said, we

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Speaker 1: got I mean you don’t, so stop trying. So I’m

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Speaker 1: looking forward to this two twenty season led by one

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Speaker 1: Pat MVP. Again let’s run it back my homes. But

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Speaker 1: it also means you don’t stop trying to build equity

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Speaker 1: in that quarterback room. There’s a lot of value in

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Speaker 1: doing that. He’s Seann Barber, He’s barber Shop, He’s the shop.

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Speaker 1: He’s the spider Man. He is the principal or vice

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Speaker 1: principle of his country school homeschooling effort at the School

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Speaker 1: of Shop. I’m at Chelter’s voice to the chiefs, thanks

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Speaker 1: for jointing us on this edition defending the today and

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Speaker 1: can chip for all of you on the front lines

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Speaker 1: in this battle against COVID nineteen in this pandemic. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, God bless you. And next week’s shop, we’re

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Speaker 1: going to jump into the wide receivers. We delayed those guys,

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Speaker 1: the best group I think now in the NFL, particularly

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Speaker 1: what’s happened, But we’ll get after that next week. He’s

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Speaker 1: Sean Barbara. I’m Mitch Altis. Thanks for joining us and

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Speaker 1: defending the kingdom. Thanks for listening to the Chief’s official

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