Defending The Kingdom 3/26: “Fitting the Mold” – Chiefs Running Backs

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitch

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Speaker 1: Holt us with you along with the one we call

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Speaker 1: the Shop Barbershop, Spider Man ten year, telve Entrance, Sean

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Speaker 1: Barber and like everybody else, we’re video conferencing. This is

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Speaker 1: for your enjoyment and we take a look. Now the

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Speaker 1: last five weeks we’ve looked at different position groups and

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Speaker 1: quite honestly, Barbershop. We know that the NFL is keeping

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Speaker 1: we know with the social distancing and the stay at

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Speaker 1: do this virtually, so there’s no slowing down and the

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Speaker 1: team is getting ready for the draft as we jump

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Speaker 1: into the running back position. Ever, we gotta do to

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Speaker 1: keep each other safe, to keep the country as safe

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Speaker 1: were willing to do. I know here in the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Kingdom we’re all doing our parts. Social distancing thing six

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Speaker 1: eight feet even twenty feet away from whoever the next

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Speaker 1: person is. It’s kind of hard when you got a

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Speaker 1: family of six kids to try to create some social

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Speaker 1: distancing in the house. So we don’t even try. Once

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Speaker 1: we locked the doors down, we’re in the barber bunker.

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Speaker 1: We create we got every day as normal, go out

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Speaker 1: things to stay active, walk a mile every day, and

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Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do. But right now, just

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Speaker 1: so excited about the culmination of last year defending champions.

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Speaker 1: We had that never equipmentality sparked by our guy are

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Speaker 1: So I’m so excited to hit that position group today

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Speaker 1: as we talk about defending the kingdom, as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for the two twenty draft. Your family and my

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Speaker 1: family share a lot of things. We also share. We

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Speaker 1: believe in the power of prayers, so I know we’re

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Speaker 1: both praying for the world or country and for our region.

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Speaker 1: I’m wearing this top today because this was the top

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Speaker 1: we wore for the Salute to Service game in twenty

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Speaker 1: hundred year anniversary of the end of World War One

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Speaker 1: The reason I wore it was it was also the

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Speaker 1: time of the flu pandemic which killed it infected barbershop

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Speaker 1: a fourth of the world. Now we have better technology

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Speaker 1: and better medicine and hopefully better behavior. But this is

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Speaker 1: why you take this seriously when our public health officers

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Speaker 1: social distancing so that we can flatten it. Because at

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Speaker 1: that time it killed tens of millions of people, and

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Speaker 1: so we obviously want to avoid that. So we’ll just

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Speaker 1: keep all that in mind as we now go back

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Speaker 1: to football and the running back position. Let’s start with

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Speaker 1: Damian Williams running to immortality, the thirty eight yard run

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Speaker 1: that will forever, As I mentioned on the play by

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Speaker 1: player the game, he’ll be freever, remembered in the hearts

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs Kingdom everywhere. But to me, Damian Williams

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Speaker 1: has become the prototype running back. And what Andy Reid wants.

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Speaker 1: There’s enough power there, right, five eleven, two hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: five pounds. The dude’s got power. He ran four to

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Speaker 1: four when he came out of College. In the combine

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Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen, he was an awesome pass blocker. Go

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Speaker 1: back and watch the Sammy Watkins play in the fourth

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. He can run it and he

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Speaker 1: can catch it. To me, this is what Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: wants in all of his running backs. Man he talked

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Speaker 1: about it having feet, balance, running behind your pads, having

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Speaker 1: Vision Football IQ to understand Coach Andy Reids and coach

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Speaker 1: Bellamy’s offensive sets up, making ability, hands, pass protection, then

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Speaker 1: elusiveness after the catch, then that top. There are so

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Speaker 1: many different categories to be able to rank and judge

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the running back position, and I

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Speaker 1: think as a whole, our running back group is one

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Speaker 1: of the most well rounded in the NFL. There’s no superstar.

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Speaker 1: We don’t have to Zekiel Elliott, the Todd Gurley, the

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Speaker 1: on a game, any single game. When you talk about

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Speaker 1: that you always talk about. I think we have one

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Speaker 1: of the most well rounded groups of individuals when you

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Speaker 1: talk about running back positions in the NFL. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: they ran using Tyreek Hill as a decoy. And Damien’s

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Speaker 1: ability to get to the edge. Was he there? Was

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Speaker 1: thing is when I looked up his pass protection, Damian

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Speaker 1: two hurries, a ninety one yard run against Minnesota, the

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Speaker 1: couple of occasions. To me, Damian Williams, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: is the whole package checks every box, but he needs help.

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Speaker 1: We also know that this is not a Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: kind of back. The Chiefs don’t want to use that im.

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Speaker 1: It’s just not in their system. So you got to

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Speaker 1: or blocking back or a little sneaky decoy. But we’ve

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Speaker 1: all we always used more backs, right we went from

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Speaker 1: spencer Ware to very West. We always had so many

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Speaker 1: different profiles. And if you look at some of the

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Speaker 1: guys that we decide not to go with, sometimes it’s

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Speaker 1: hard for those guys to find other NFL homes, not

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Speaker 1: They’re not demanding eight million dollars five million dollars a season.

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Speaker 1: There’ll these three million dollars four million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: running backs that can do things that other people can do.

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Speaker 1: Elusive underneath catching, being able to make one man miss

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Speaker 1: possess and control the ball, because that’s one of the

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Speaker 1: things that we always hold as a high priority, keeping

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Speaker 1: ball over. Something that you game in and game out,

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Speaker 1: it will cost you more games than that. When you

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Speaker 1: when you talk about that turnover battle, don’t want to

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Speaker 1: year where they said, hey man, it’s your fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: just take care of it. The more I find out

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Speaker 1: about Darwin Thompson as a player and as a person,

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Speaker 1: that Chark Hendrick West kind of guy. You want to.

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Speaker 1: You want to Damian Williams. You want to Damian Williams clone.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that’s Darryl Williams. I’m gonna get more into him

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. But then there’s Darwin Thompson and

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Speaker 1: he seems to also fit niche for this offense because

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid likes to do offensively. Yeah, when you talk

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Speaker 1: no running back. I can think it fits that that

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Speaker 1: creates so many extra yall pound about was probably one

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Speaker 1: of the most strongest individuals we’ve seen that come through

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Speaker 1: Chief’s Kingdom. And that goes back to all his dedication

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Speaker 1: It’s an amazing amount of exciting ability, excitability you have

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Speaker 1: with a guy like Darlin Thompson. He is definitely a

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Speaker 1: on not only on special teams, but in normal dames.

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Speaker 1: And let’s talk about Anthony Sherman before we get into

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Speaker 1: the Croc pod guys Anthony Sherman signs a contract yesterday

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Speaker 1: and Andy Sherman, Anthony Sherman the sausage. We all kind

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Speaker 1: of joke about him, and he likes to joke about himself,

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Speaker 1: and but I’m not sure I appreciate a guy better

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Speaker 1: when I watch the video on Monday. It’s something that

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Speaker 1: I do before I talk with Coach Read on Monday,

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Speaker 1: before I go into the jump. In all the shows

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Speaker 1: particularly when it’s fresh in my mind the previous game.

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Speaker 1: I’m not sure there’s a player in the seven years

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Speaker 1: that Andy Reid’s been here that impresses me more when

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Speaker 1: little things I have to follow doing play by playoff

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Speaker 1: and he does instinctively that helps the big play. Look

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Speaker 1: And that’s not only on game day, it’s every practice day.

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Speaker 1: And it also goes back to training camp. When you

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Speaker 1: to create a championship mentality, it doesn’t start on week one.

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Speaker 1: it’s drill, let’s do this, do these obstacles, let’s do

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Speaker 1: this competition. And you know you get because a guy

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Speaker 1: like Sherman understands what it means to go whistle to

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Speaker 1: whistle day to day. Giving it y’all, you want to

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Speaker 1: empty the tank every day, you won’t create what that

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Speaker 1: wall is. Get to the wall, busted, damn breakthrough it.

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Speaker 1: Each week during the OTA’s exhaust yourself to a point

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Speaker 1: be exhausted, right, and then during training, kimp, when it

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Speaker 1: gotta line up, execute, do your job, and you do

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Speaker 1: telling guys, hey, it’s one game at a time, it’s

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Speaker 1: Chiefs had none of that, and it goes to those

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Speaker 1: one of the things I really like about him is

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Speaker 1: his birthday one fourteen. That’s my birthday. We share the

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Speaker 1: same birthday, so he must be a baller. He’s about

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Speaker 1: twenty five years He’s got that on me. But when

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Speaker 1: it comes time to play football, DeAndre Swift from Georgia,

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Speaker 1: that’s one of the guys I would target, And I

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Speaker 1: don’t even think we need to target him in the

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Speaker 1: first round. I think he’ll still be there all pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Five ringbacks, I think three of them will still be

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Speaker 1: around with our second round pick. That’s how much I

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Speaker 1: think the offensive tackles, wide receivers, quarterbacks, corners are pushing

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Speaker 1: great talent to the end of the second round of

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Speaker 1: this draft. So like I said, it’s not a position

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Speaker 1: of the need with the free agency, but if you

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Speaker 1: can add a piece, you can add an explosive piece

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Speaker 1: like a swift. He has returnability. He played special teams

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Speaker 1: while waiting at George, behind Chubb and behind Sony Michelle.

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Speaker 1: So’s he’s a guy who can do everything. He’s a

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Speaker 1: jack of all trades. I think it will be an

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Speaker 1: awesome addition to the Chiefs offense. A lot of guys

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Speaker 1: used to talk about here another guy’s client, Edwards Hilaire

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Speaker 1: of LSU fifty five catches. It’s the guy that I mean.

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Speaker 1: He gets your attention too. Now that team was loaded.

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Speaker 1: We all know, win in the National Championship and there’s

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Speaker 1: going to be dudes from LSU all over the straft.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at Edwards Hilaire, his ability to

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Speaker 1: be at the very least a start as a third

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Speaker 1: down back and maybe also give you some special teams help.

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Speaker 1: But fifty five catches in college at any school gets

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Speaker 1: your attention. Yeah, and he’s coming from LSU right national

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Speaker 1: championship team, so they agree. He knows how to play

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Speaker 1: on the big stage. He’s a childhood teammate of Darius.

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Speaker 1: Guys to play with the Raskins. They grew up together.

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Speaker 1: They was they’ve been two peas in the part ever

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Speaker 1: since high school. One guy pushing another. And you like

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Speaker 1: that competitive nature. You like guys that have been competing

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Speaker 1: all their life. I’m not taking anything for granted. He’s

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Speaker 1: been able to be patient on and off the field,

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Speaker 1: waiting for his in turn, his turn, and when he’s

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Speaker 1: been giving a shot, he’s made the most of it.

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Speaker 1: And so that’s when you know a guy. He can

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Speaker 1: he can step up when when the lights are on

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Speaker 1: and give you big play, potential game, any game out.

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Speaker 1: Other guys have come up JK. Dobbins of Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: although there’s some concern he’s had. He had three big

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Speaker 1: fumbles during his season, and again those will probably get

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Speaker 1: the attention of Big Red. I mean you mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 1: A fumble gets the attention of Big Red. It’s hard

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Speaker 1: to get it out of his mind even as the

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Speaker 1: months go on during his season. But it makes you

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Speaker 1: appreciate Damian Williams as well. We did. I’m gonna bring

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Speaker 1: up Jonathan Taylor again at Wisconsin blistered the combine four

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Speaker 1: three nine, but the fumble issue comes up with him

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Speaker 1: as well. And is he the kind of back that

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Speaker 1: fits in Andy Reid’s system, where again, think about a

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Speaker 1: Damian Williams and that’s so much a Todd Gurley. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will saying I would really have a hard pass

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Speaker 1: um on Jonathan coming here from Wisconsin. I think too

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Speaker 1: much of an upright runner. He has more of a

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Speaker 1: track style, think of black skill level, but that that

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Speaker 1: of those things are hard to coach it guy out of.

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Speaker 1: If you’re a guy just is nonchalant with carrying the ball,

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Speaker 1: m it becomes a habit. And because you spend most

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Speaker 1: of your time, folks on a guy that’s carrying the

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Speaker 1: ball and you don’t have time to teach him his position,

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Speaker 1: his assignment to play, progression and all the other things

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Speaker 1: that make running backs very elusive and very elite at

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Speaker 1: this level. But then we got the guy from Florida

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Speaker 1: State right cam Akers. He’s uh, you know what I

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Speaker 1: like about him is like about every position, if you

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Speaker 1: were a former quarterback, you are automatically going up a

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Speaker 1: couple of spots on my draft board. And this is

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Speaker 1: a guy who played quarterback and running back in high school.

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Speaker 1: He has all over the field. He can He’s a

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Speaker 1: guy that can do it all, play special teams, throwing ball,

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Speaker 1: running the ball. One of the most prolific high school

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Speaker 1: careers almost ever we’ve seen in the high school level.

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Speaker 1: And I think he’s went to Florida State and shown

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Speaker 1: and proved he can do it at that level. And

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Speaker 1: I’m pretty sure any team to get came makers is

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Speaker 1: gonna be really proud and really happy with the athlete

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Speaker 1: they get the interests of building. The other thing I

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Speaker 1: want to bring up here is we get close to

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Speaker 1: closing is I think when Brett Beach looks at this

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Speaker 1: and Andy Reid looks at this, the RPO game for

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Speaker 1: a running back is very important. Now we see a

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Speaker 1: lot of running backs that play the downhill style, the ISOs,

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Speaker 1: the leads, the powers, But the RPO game, particularly with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, how much of an art forum is it

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Speaker 1: or a learned trade to be an RPO running back

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Speaker 1: not just an RPO quarterback. The run pass option where

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Speaker 1: it seems like there’s got to be a knack for

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Speaker 1: that a running back has and it’s almost better if

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Speaker 1: he comes out of an RPO college system. And that’s

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Speaker 1: definitely true. Being able to fake and play out that

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Speaker 1: play fake throughout the play, holding and freezing that linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Some running backs you know where they’re gonna get the

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Speaker 1: ball or not, just by their stands, whether they’re messing

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Speaker 1: with their gloves. Sometimes running backs have their hands on

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Speaker 1: their knees or their hands on their thighs or hips,

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Speaker 1: depending if they get the ball or not. So little

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Speaker 1: little nuances like that the defensives can pick up on film.

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Speaker 1: It definitely hampers on handcuff your RPO ability week in

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Speaker 1: and week out, and so that spread system. They know

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Speaker 1: the RPO, the target, the aiming points, the level of

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Speaker 1: the amount of patients a running back has to have

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Speaker 1: at the snap of the ball. They don’t rush through

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Speaker 1: their face. They understand all the importance of that. And

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Speaker 1: when you talk about plug and play, a guy that

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Speaker 1: can come into you, coming to your team, play special teams,

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Speaker 1: but also be a third down back and be able

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Speaker 1: to help on the normal downs, they have to probably

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Speaker 1: have come from a system like that to be ultra effective,

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Speaker 1: especially with the aspirations our team masks, which is not

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Speaker 1: only to get deep in the playoff. We won’t want

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Speaker 1: to repeat. We want to create guys. We want to

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Speaker 1: keep any as many of us every year game right,

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Speaker 1: we refit those backpacks start climbing up Mount Killer Majallo

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Speaker 1: Majarro as we did every season. But it starts with

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Speaker 1: guys being committed to the program, being committed to the

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Speaker 1: process being greater than the product. So yes, guys coming

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Speaker 1: from an RPO system in college, that spraying system are

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Speaker 1: more effective going into this system than a guy that

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Speaker 1: comes from a traditional power eye offensive set. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: everybody knows it’s not necessarily your number one fantasy pick

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Speaker 1: at running back that plays for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but he’s your number one reality pick because what Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid likes. He likes to have that combination of power

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Speaker 1: and speed, a guy that can play in space, but

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Speaker 1: he also is a willing or wants to learn how

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Speaker 1: to pass, block, run the RPO game, play with my

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Speaker 1: homes and have enough action and enough attacking ability and

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Speaker 1: enough run ahead speed like Damian Williams has shown and

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Speaker 1: particularly shown in the Super Bowl. Find that guy, plug

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Speaker 1: him in, let him go, and keep that running back

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Speaker 1: position rolling in twenty twenty, no doubt, no doubt. Well,

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Speaker 1: before we close up, man, I want to hey, if

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Speaker 1: anybody’s a ram. We got some monopoly. You gotta find

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Speaker 1: some monopoly to play in. You might get yourself a book.

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Speaker 1: I got Kevin Larkin’s Son’s book Reflections. I got all

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. If you got a little kid, maybe

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Speaker 1: album is in the Chipmunk. Whatever you gotta do to

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Speaker 1: keep your sanity, keep inside, keep social distancing. This is

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Speaker 1: Sean Barbara from Defending the Kingdom with my man, Mitch

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Speaker 1: Holtus as we do every time. Man, we want to

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Speaker 1: create an atmosphere for everybody to be good, be safe.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Mitch, hey bathe, I’m disappointed in you though,

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Speaker 1: I’m just trying today. Okay, we got people to listen

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Speaker 1: to this, that work out. We should have probably done

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Speaker 1: this on a treadmill. Next time we might have to

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Speaker 1: do it. Well, we’re both on a treadmill working out,

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Speaker 1: because everybody seems to be working out. Listen to the

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Speaker 1: thing to the Kingdom. I mentioned a guy named Chris

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Speaker 1: McGowan listens to every one of these podcasts and works

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Speaker 1: out to him. But you met him in Afghanistan. You

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Speaker 1: Thompson that a guy texted me that you bet an

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan and they said, hey, we don’t shop. He was

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Speaker 1: better Afghanistan. On the tour, I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: do a spirit tour in Afghanistan. I think it was

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. I went up the group from

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Speaker 1: um Um it’s it’s part of it’s an NFL group.

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Speaker 1: We go over there and do a fitness and spirit tour.

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Speaker 1: We went to Afghanistan. I went to all these different bases,

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Speaker 1: all these little U unique spots. We met all these soldiers. Man.

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Speaker 1: We had such a great time bringing the Falcons in

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Speaker 1: the and the Patriots and we watched the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That’s why I watched the Super Bowl at with these

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Speaker 1: guys at one of the barracks. Is it was the

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Speaker 1: time of my life. UM an experience I would never forget.

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Speaker 1: Tell those guys, I said, so much love and a

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Speaker 1: preiation for keeping us safe from the States all the

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Speaker 1: way to those guys and Afghanistan. Absolutely all right, Barbara Shop,

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Speaker 1: we’ll do this again next week. And we got some

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Speaker 1: awesome stuff going on at Chiefs dot com, so check

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Speaker 1: it out as we revisit the world. Championship twenty nineteen season,

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Speaker 1: and remember to pray and think of our country and

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Speaker 1: really throughout the world. I’m at Child’s Voice of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this edition of Defending

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom. Thanks for listening to the Chief’s official podcast

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Speaker 1: network to touch Down walch it down he the celebration

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