The Wizard of Spags | Defending the Kingdom | Chiefs vs. Bears Preview

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Speaker 1: The common NFL phrase is stack them up. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: go for win number two this week, but try to

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Speaker 1: stack up another great defensive performance. On this Defending the Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: We’ll look into that defense with the Wizard of Spags.

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Speaker 1: Plus we’ll have Mike Dana. It’s all brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Ticketmaster as Kansas City tries to get to two

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Speaker 1: and one. Hi again everyone, and welcome to this edition

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Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom. Yeah, we’re going to try to

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Speaker 1: stack it up this week and get another win. Mitch

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Speaker 1: Holt is with you the voice of the Chiefs, along

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Speaker 1: with senior team reporter Matt McMullen. We’re going to feature

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Speaker 1: the defense in this episode, which has been one of

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Speaker 1: the surprises of the NFL, and the Wizard of Spags

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Speaker 1: special treat because we’ll have Mike Dana on later in

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Speaker 1: this podcast. But before we do all that, and the

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Speaker 1: in the sixty four year history of the franchise. Just

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Speaker 1: get ready to go, folks and get those tickets. But

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Speaker 1: before we jump into the Wizard of Spags, let’s go

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Speaker 1: around the world, and how many do you have this week?

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Speaker 2: So I have five this week. Once again, I’m trying

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Speaker 2: to truncate it a bit. We’ll get to everyone, I promise,

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Speaker 2: but this way we have a lot of football to

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Speaker 2: talk about here, so I’ll just five more this week.

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Speaker 1: Here’s why I love why you pick five this week

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Speaker 1: because five was the number of Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: He became a phenom right in West Texas in Lubbock,

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Speaker 1: but when he came to the Chiefs drafted in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: he couldn’t wear five. Cairo Santos was the chief kicker,

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Speaker 1: he wore five. Patrick took fifteen, and now the legend

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Speaker 1: has grown. Santos will be here this week kicking for

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, but he wears number eight now. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: five is a very appropriate around the world number.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Patrick’s plan originally was to one day

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Speaker 2: have five. But when you’re number fifteen and you immediately

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Speaker 2: throw for fifty touchdowns in five thousand yards and everyone

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Speaker 2: buys your jersey, It’s like, I think you should just

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Speaker 2: stick with fifteen.

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Speaker 3: This is what you are now, and the.

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Speaker 1: World is buying these jerseys a lot of you listen

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Speaker 1: around the world, as we have noted many times, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of you have bought fifteen Mahomes Jerseys. Can’t

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Speaker 1: wait till we go to the deutsch Land and see

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Speaker 1: what it be. Food Za in Jerseys with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it’s a hot selling item. Don’t go to

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Speaker 1: five now, Pat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he’s fifteen forever.

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Speaker 2: All right, So around the world, I have Enrique is

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota but originally from Mexico City. We have a

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Speaker 2: listener in Derby, Kansas. Have you ever been there?

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Speaker 4: Oh, the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: It’s a power, a six, a power and they’ve produced

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Speaker 1: many National Football League players. I’ve been to Derby, suburban

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Speaker 1: witch talk good high school football.

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Speaker 2: We have a listener in Nashville, Tennessee, Nashville. Michael is

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Speaker 2: in Altoona, Iowa.

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Speaker 3: You heard of that place?

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Speaker 1: I have Altoona, Iowa. It’s on the eastern edge of

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Speaker 1: the suburbs of Des Moines. Actually the hometown of one

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Speaker 1: Brad g Really.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it’s our vice president for communications here with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Yep, he went to Southeast Polk High School. They call

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Speaker 1: him the Rams because it’s made up of different communities

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Speaker 1: Reynolds are Altona A M. Mitchellville, and then s is

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Speaker 1: like Stephenville, but they left out Pleasant Hill. I go,

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Speaker 1: you guys should be the ramps. You’re just gonna leave

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Speaker 1: out of town. How dare they?

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Speaker 4: Dare they?

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Speaker 1: You folks in Pleasant Hill, Iowa need to say it’s

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Speaker 1: the ramps and then have your helmet be like an

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Speaker 1: on ramp off an interstate.

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Speaker 3: Or like the Colorado state. You know rams. I don’t

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Speaker 3: know ramps. Yeah, oh, I see what you’re saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it should be that. Maybe like the horns could be

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Speaker 3: a ramp. I don’t know, just wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Lastly we have Daniel in Springfield, Missouri. And then one

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Speaker 2: more we have Holly, who says that every time she

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Speaker 2: goes to High Ve from now on, she’s gonna imagine

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Speaker 2: you like carrying a whole bunch of pickle jars and

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Speaker 2: dropping all of them. From last week’s episode.

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Speaker 1: I’ve had some reaction to that. Some have thought, dude,

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Speaker 1: don’t buy pickles. Others have got you’re my hero now.

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Speaker 1: But it was interesting because some executives of High V

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Speaker 1: who listened to every one of our defending the kingdoms.

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Speaker 4: There is one I’ll just say He’s a great, great Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Fan, former cross country runner at Shawne Mission Northwest High School.

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Speaker 1: But he has to go between Des Moines and Kansas

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Speaker 1: City all the time, so he’s just burning up I

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Speaker 1: He goes dude Deal pickles clean up on Aisle two,

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Speaker 1: so he was all about it. But yes, still pickles.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, this week Full Disclosure had to go

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Speaker 1: to high ve. Yes, I got some deal pickles, but

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Speaker 1: I know that’ll order some Well, get ready for week

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Speaker 1: number three. The Chiefs with a hard fud victory. Let’s

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Speaker 1: just start there because Matt, you and I knew this

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Speaker 1: and you were spotting for me in the booth. It

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Speaker 1: was great to have you there. That win is really,

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Speaker 1: I think underrated by most fans of the Chief Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: That was a very very impactful victory. Chiefs did it

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Speaker 1: where they did it, and to win that game was huge.

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Speaker 2: It was gutsy, it was resilient, It wasn’t easy. So

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Speaker 2: I looked this one up on the plane. I believe

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are the first team since twenty twelve to

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Speaker 2: win a game in which they scored no more than

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Speaker 2: seventeen points, had twelve or more penalties, and three or

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Speaker 2: more turnovers. That’s not usually a place you want to live.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that the Chiefs won that game says

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Speaker 2: a lot about who they are. And I remember Patrick Mahomes’

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Speaker 2: comments last week about how he wanted the Chiefs to

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Speaker 2: go out and prove who they were to the world

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Speaker 2: and even to themselves, And while the box score maybe

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Speaker 2: doesn’t indicate that, I think the way they played, the

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Speaker 2: way they fought through adversity, the way they ended the

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Speaker 2: first half and ended the game, really proved who they

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Speaker 2: who even when things are not going well, things aren’t

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Speaker 2: going right for them, they don’t care. They move on

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Speaker 2: and they find a way to win and to beat

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Speaker 2: be the division champion in the AFC South, team that

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Speaker 2: has high aspirations. So it has a lot about the

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Speaker 2: character of this squad. A win is a win, and

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Speaker 2: this could be one of those wins we look back

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Speaker 2: on ten weeks from now and say the Chiefs really

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Speaker 2: on how they played that game, Because it would have

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Speaker 2: been very easy for the Chiefs to lose that game

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Speaker 2: but they found a way to win it, and that

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Speaker 2: says a lot about who they.

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Speaker 1: Are, which is why we’re going to focus this defending

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom on the defense. Two weeks they’ve only allowed

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns in this day and age of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That’s unheard of, quite honestly, and it’s a heck of

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Speaker 1: an effort. The other thing, and this accentuates your point,

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars had first and ten after a sudden

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Speaker 1: at the fourteen, first and goal at the one. These

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Speaker 1: are three separate possessions and got no touchdowns zero. That’s

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Speaker 1: a big time effort against a good offensive team. And

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Speaker 1: the stat and we talked about this too, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: that hasn’t happened since two thousand and seven with Brett

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Speaker 1: the chief defense on most of those seven attempts had

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Speaker 1: camp when coach was talking about, like, what are you

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Speaker 1: noticing about this defense? Because there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: red zone stops by the defense again against Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Saint Joseph, and coach said, those windows are tightening

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Speaker 1: and that is good to see from this defense.

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Speaker 2: All summer and even back into the spring. Kind of

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Speaker 2: the mantra from the defense, particularly the secondary, was that

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Speaker 2: these guys feel so much more comfortable now that they

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Speaker 2: can just move at full speed. They’re not thinking too much,

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Speaker 2: They’re just playing. Steve Spagnolo said numerous times that the defense,

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Speaker 2: particularly once again the secondary, was light years ahead of

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Speaker 2: it in OTAs and we saw it in training camp.

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Speaker 2: Just the growth from the chiefs, young corners, the chief safeties,

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Speaker 2: even though Justin Reid is a veteran in this league,

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Speaker 2: all of that, but then to see it over the

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Speaker 2: last two weeks has been super exciting. And the offense

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Speaker 2: has been working through some stuff. We know that they’re

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Speaker 2: going to be just fine because it’s an Andy Reid

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Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes led offense, but for the defense to

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Speaker 2: pick them up the way that they have, to keep

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Speaker 2: them in the game and to keep giving them opportunities

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Speaker 2: is what championship teams do. And what’s amazing and so

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Speaker 2: interesting is that if you ask any of the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: this because they this is what they’ve been working toward.

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Speaker 4: And also if they’re arrogant, it’s not an arrogant answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s not arrogant.

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Speaker 2: It’s just like, yeah, I mean, this is what we

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Speaker 2: expect from ourselves, and they’re also not satisfied with it

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Speaker 2: at all. George Karloftis during Wednesday’s media he was asked

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Speaker 2: if he’s been satisfied with how the defense is played,

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Speaker 2: and he said, no, not even close. And they’ve been

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Speaker 2: one of the best defenses in the NFL, so I’m

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Speaker 2: excited to see how they continue to grow. But so

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Speaker 2: far this defense has been just outstanding and we can’t

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Speaker 2: take it for granted.

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Speaker 1: Carloft is excellent game. Chris Jones, I was wrong. I’ll

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Speaker 4: Did you watch The Wizard of Oz as a kid?

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Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up is the fact that

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Speaker 4: Did.

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Speaker 1: Mike Dana is the one who came up with this

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Speaker 1: Dorothy’s tough, good, but they’re double team in her right away, right,

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Speaker 1: So he’s rusty and the scarecrow. I don’t know, dude,

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Speaker 1: Dorothy and Toto was good, but I mean Toto, you

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Speaker 1: But what’s not terrifying, in fact, what’s encouraging is to

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Speaker 4: Or third in the league. That’s awesome.

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Speaker 2: And think about when those red zone stops were in

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Speaker 3: One of those.

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Speaker 2: The first one the Jags had a first and goal

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Speaker 2: And then the latter one, there was like six seven

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Speaker 2: a very frustrating day for Jacksonville offensively, because consistently the

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Speaker 1: And to me, the biggest one of well, the first

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Speaker 1: Blue Valley, North, Smith Center, Cal Davis, Uh, I don’t know,

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Speaker 1: the Chicago week. Well, a guy that the Chiefs can

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Speaker 1: build around. And let’s just set this up here, Matt

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Speaker 3: And Danley yeah, one percent.

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Speaker 2: I mean you think about the players on this defense,

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Speaker 2: there’s a lot to get a lot of credit, and

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Speaker 2: deservingly so. But Mike Dana has been here now for

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Speaker 2: four seasons, a former fifth round pick out of Michigan,

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Speaker 2: has consistently just owned his role and done different things

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Speaker 2: He’s been so consistent and so reliable and only gotten

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the third base subject of NFL

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Speaker 1: defense is third down defense. The Chiefs right now are

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Speaker 1: good on the honor roll for NFL defense after two weeks,

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Speaker 1: but on the honor roll since he’s been here. Came

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Speaker 1: in the COVID year of twenty twenty, and he has

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Speaker 1: breaking news Defending the Kingdom. Breaking news. Here’s Chiefs defensive

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Speaker 1: end Mike Dana. Yeah, we’ve been talking defense on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Defending the Kingdom. Why not one of the

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Speaker 1: hottest defenses right now in the NFL is right here

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Speaker 1: in the Chiefs Kingdom, and one of the hottest players

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Speaker 1: is with us now on Defending the Kingdom. So Matt

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Speaker 1: and I welcome number fifty one for his first ever

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Speaker 1: appearance on Defending the Kingdom podcast. The first thing we’re

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Speaker 1: going to do, all right, Matt, because we are going

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Speaker 1: to have the official announcement to the world. Because Mike

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Speaker 1: tell us how to say your last name here, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen today.

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Speaker 5: Well, last name is pronounced as Dana, not Dana’s Dana.

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Speaker 1: Dana all the time. Four years to get here, Dana,

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Speaker 1: Mike Danna. We were Mike Dana.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: So there we go, everybody, defenders around the world, you’ve

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Speaker 1: got that down now. We had it officially right here

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Speaker 1: on DTK Mike Dana, who’s having a heck of a

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Speaker 4: Matt will jump into some football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, We’ll just want to talk about the first

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Speaker 2: two weeks. The defense has been outstanding, particularly last week

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Speaker 2: and that’s a good offense. Is how good are you

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Speaker 5: We’ve been playing solid football, you know, both sides of

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Speaker 5: the balls, special teams, everybody’s been contributing in their in

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Speaker 5: tails off. People have been stepping out their numbers called

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Speaker 5: you know, everybody’s just doing their job, you know, doing

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Speaker 5: their one and eleventh. Man, it’s exciting to see, you know,

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Speaker 5: all this started unravel and because it all started in

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Speaker 5: and kind of you know, see where it takes us,

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Speaker 5: it’s going to be exciting.

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Speaker 1: Mike Dana, I want to ask you this because how

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Speaker 1: is having the mentality of a defense, of digging your

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Speaker 1: and the one with first downs and they get zero touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Being that good in the red zone and having a

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Speaker 5: In well, it’s just it’s it starts that practice, man.

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Speaker 5: You know, when we get to those situations, we want

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Speaker 5: practice every single day, so when it gets to the game,

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Speaker 5: it’s easy, you know. But the mentality is, you know,

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Speaker 5: we don’t want them guys to score. We want to

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Speaker 5: make it easy for the offense get the ball back.

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Speaker 5: You know, all eleven guys showed up, man, Like you said,

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Speaker 5: and only get you know, field goals. So that’s that’s great,

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Speaker 5: and that’s great improvement from where we were at. But

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Speaker 5: we got to continue to stack those games and you know,

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Speaker 5: continue to make noise.

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Speaker 3: Mitch.

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Speaker 2: A few weeks ago before the Lions game, my buddy

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Speaker 2: texted me just before the game and asked, who do

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Speaker 2: you think is going to have a big game on

424
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Speaker 2: defense today? And I was like, I think Mike Dana’s

425
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Speaker 2: gonna have a big game. And he has a sack

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Speaker 2: in the first half, and I’m like, I told you,

427
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Speaker 2: Mike Dana, You’re having a really nice year so far.

428
00:19:29,720 –> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 2: Personally a second and a half had a bad a pass.

429
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Speaker 2: Just how were you feeling individually so far through two weeks.

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Speaker 5: I feel great, man. You know, it’s great to have

431
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Speaker 5: the d line working as we are. It’s great to

432
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Speaker 5: have Chris back. You know, we’re all building up the chemistry,

433
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Speaker 5: we’re all yelling together. But all those players come from

434
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Speaker 5: just you know, working hard, Russian hard rushing as one,

435
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Speaker 5: you know, so you know, the job doesn’t get done

436
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Speaker 5: if you know I can’t trust the guy to my

437
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Speaker 5: left or my right. You know, those guys make the

438
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Speaker 5: game easier for me. I make it easier for them.

439
00:20:00,400 –> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 5: It’s all about the chemistry when we’re out there, and

440
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Speaker 5: you know, when when you see your one on one,

441
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Speaker 5: you want to win your matchup because you know your

442
00:20:05,960 –> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 5: guys are dependent on you.

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Speaker 1: Mike on this podcast where you are emphasizing Professor Spagnola’s class, Okay,

444
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Speaker 1: it is a hard class, right, but one of the

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Speaker 1: cool things about it. And Matt and I watch every

446
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Speaker 1: O t A, we watch every mini camp, we watch

447
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Speaker 1: every training camp practice to see you move inside and outside,

448
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Speaker 1: Like where’s Mike now.

449
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Speaker 4: Oh, he’s in, he’s in, He’s in the one tech right,

450
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Speaker 4: he’s a three tech. Oh he’s a seven tech.

451
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Speaker 1: Your ability to move around and how spags use you

452
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Speaker 1: in that regard.

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Speaker 5: Coach Baggs is a wizard man, and I think we

454
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Speaker 5: know that by now is after his track record, and

455
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Speaker 5: he uses me in a way where I play inside,

456
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Speaker 5: play outside and may drop back a little sometimes. But

457
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Speaker 5: it’s all to you know, create matchups, you know, and

458
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Speaker 5: I’m not even the only one who’s the versatile. You know,

459
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Speaker 5: you’ve got guys like Turk Turson, Warren, Malik, Herring, you know, George,

460
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Speaker 5: all of us move inside and out and it’s great

461
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Speaker 5: to see that because you know, we’re not all just

462
00:21:04,359 –> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 5: one dimensional position players. You know, we’re not all just

463
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Speaker 5: dns or de tackle. We’re both, you know, And it’s

464
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Speaker 5: great when you got guys like that because you got

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Speaker 5: a bunch of moving pieces. You can insert one guy

466
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Speaker 5: because you know he knows the plays. And it’s just

467
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Speaker 5: great when you got a d LIN that can do

468
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Speaker 5: that because it makes the job easier for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned George, I want to ask you about him

470
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Speaker 2: because he finished last year so strong. How have you

471
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Speaker 2: seen him grow? Maybe over the summer now into this season.

472
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Speaker 2: He’s one of the hardest workers in the building.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, you see him grow up and you know

475
00:21:36,040 –> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 5: his football IQ starts to grow as a player, his

476
00:21:40,960 –> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 5: details and practice. You know, he’s working on stuff before

477
00:21:43,880 –> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 5: and after, working on his footwork, working on his hands.

478
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Speaker 5: So you know, improvement is no surprise because he works

479
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Speaker 5: on it, he does it. He puts the time in

480
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Speaker 5: so when he goes out there and do it, it

481
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Speaker 5: may be a surprise to everybody else, but to us,

482
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Speaker 5: it’s kind of like we expect that because he do

483
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Speaker 5: what you.

484
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Speaker 4: Know, Professor Spagnelo, the Wizard of Spags. Okay, so that’s

485
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Speaker 4: what we’ve got. I think you’ve just called him that

486
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Speaker 4: way to go, man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Let’s talk about opponent specific here a little bit, because

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Speaker 1: one thing that I’m impressed with what Chicago can do

489
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Speaker 1: is if they want to try to come downhill on you.

490
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Speaker 4: They will try to do it.

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Speaker 1: Not just Khalil Herbert, right, I’ve respected you know, all

492
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Speaker 1: throughout his career. But then ro Seawan, right, this is

493
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Speaker 1: a player now, he just kind of got hidden because

494
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Speaker 1: of John Robinson. But what about stopping the run and

495
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Speaker 1: then how that sets up your passers?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, stopping the run is just as big

497
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Speaker 5: as stopping the pass. Or you can’t even get to

498
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Speaker 5: the pass until you stopped the run. So you know

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Speaker 5: that’s going to be one of our biggest focuses this year.

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Speaker 5: Containing justin he’s a great quarterback, you got got a

501
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Speaker 5: great backfill. We got to be able to handle those

502
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Speaker 5: guys and not let them make stend plays or not

503
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Speaker 5: them let them, not let them run the ball. Over

504
00:22:54,680 –> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 5: us to open up offensive plays or passing downs, and

505
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Speaker 5: you know, we got handled a run and we’ll see.

506
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Speaker 4: Where it takes us.

507
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Speaker 2: So I’m guessing the Super Bowl is your favorite memory

508
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Speaker 2: as a Chief. So I’m gonna put you on the

509
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Speaker 2: spot here and narrow it down a bit. What’s your

510
00:23:09,400 –> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: favorite memory at Geha Field A arrowhead as a Chief?

511
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Speaker 5: The pressure, I’d say winning the AFC championship before the

512
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Man, that was that was such a great time, man,

513
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Speaker 5: you know, just all the energy building up to that

514
00:23:26,160 –> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 5: game against the Bengals. You know, uh, it was just

515
00:23:29,280 –> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 5: so much going on that week and the history before

516
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Speaker 5: us or the previous games playing them. You know, we

517
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Speaker 5: fell short, but being able to have that one at

518
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Speaker 5: home then letting that one be the one to get

519
00:23:40,920 –> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 5: us to the super Bowl was just like, oh man,

520
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Speaker 5: it was remarkable.

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Speaker 3: I think it’s mine too. For everyone.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy, man, I didn’t didn’t. You can doubt

523
00:23:50,320 –> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, you can dislike the Chiefs, you can dishrige.

524
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Speaker 4: It all came out. Man. It was loosing out of

525
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Speaker 4: my pores. Let’s have some fun.

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Speaker 1: I’m gonna take you back even a little further if

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Speaker 1: you don’t mind By the way, do you want me

528
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Speaker 1: to be your pseudo agent for this one? Do you

529
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Speaker 1: realize the Dairy Farmers of America have their headquarters in

530
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Speaker 1: Kansas City?

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Speaker 4: Really?

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I’m gonna set you up. You want a bit

533
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Speaker 1: of business to hear? Well, here’s why, here’s why. Let

534
00:24:15,200 –> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: me take you back. Because you guys won state in

535
00:24:18,280 –> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: high school. Did you come back from a broken leg

536
00:24:22,359 –> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: and you were drinking what a half gallon of milk

537
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Speaker 1: a day?

538
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Speaker 4: What were you doing?

539
00:24:26,359 –> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: Man?

540
00:24:27,359 –> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 4: Like every bit of calcium you could find, every little bit.

541
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Speaker 5: Man, you know, I was trying to get back on

542
00:24:31,760 –> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 5: that field a senior year man, So I was how,

543
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Speaker 5: you know, go out there and finish the ride with

544
00:24:36,359 –> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 5: the guys. Man. But pretty much during that injury my

545
00:24:40,160 –> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 5: broken leg, I did so much rehab.

546
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Speaker 4: You know.

547
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Speaker 5: My dad made me drink so much milk because you know,

548
00:24:46,920 –> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 5: he said my bones was weak. You know, he got

549
00:24:49,920 –> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 5: he gotta make them stronger. So you know what he did.

550
00:24:51,920 –> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: He slept a gallon of milk right in front of

551
00:24:54,280 –> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: my face every day, and it’s like take it down,

552
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Speaker 5: you know, But it worked. I can’t back.

553
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Speaker 4: Did you chocolate milk? Strawberry milk? I’m a chocolate milk

554
00:25:03,680 –> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: kind of guy. Okay, so you went chocolate milk.

555
00:25:05,520 –> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: Went chocolate milk. Did I go wrong with it? It

556
00:25:07,800 –> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: must have worked because the end result was stay champion.

557
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Speaker 1: There you go, you Dairy Farmers of America. We just

558
00:25:13,600 –> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: got Matt. You and I just set up a deal.

559
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Speaker 1: Drink milk a gallon a day or a gallon every meal.

560
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Speaker 2: Mike, I’ve always wanted to ask you, speaking of before

561
00:25:23,720 –> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: you got to the NFL, you had like an incredible

562
00:25:26,520 –> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: season at Central Michigan and you could have gone straight

563
00:25:28,840 –> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: to the NFL after that, you chose to transfer to

564
00:25:31,560 –> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: Michigan for was it your fifth year?

565
00:25:33,760 –> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Yep?

566
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Speaker 2: Why’d you choose to do that instead of going straight

567
00:25:35,960 –> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: to the NFL, because to me it said a lot

568
00:25:37,320 –> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: about your character.

569
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Speaker 4: Oh really.

570
00:25:39,040 –> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 5: One of the main reasons was I wanted to get

571
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Speaker 5: my degree. That was a big thing to my parents,

572
00:25:43,960 –> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: to my mother, especially because she works in the education department.

573
00:25:48,520 –> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 5: So she always like told me before even before I,

574
00:25:51,560 –> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 5: you know, did the college football, You’re going to get

575
00:25:54,200 –> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: your degree if you go to college or when you

576
00:25:56,040 –> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: go to college. So that’s always been like a goal

577
00:25:58,560 –> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 5: of mind to get the degree, you know, at the

578
00:26:00,240 –> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 5: diploma to see the small inner face on their face

579
00:26:03,520 –> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: and really just you know, having a chance of up

580
00:26:07,040 –> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: in the level of competition to prove that, you know,

581
00:26:09,119 –> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: I can roll with the big fellas, you know, going

582
00:26:11,320 –> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 5: from the Max to the Big ten, you know, from

583
00:26:13,280 –> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 5: a group of five to the Power five. You know,

584
00:26:15,520 –> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: it’s a level of competition, competition difference and being able

585
00:26:19,240 –> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: to show or display your showcase or you know, showcase

586
00:26:23,000 –> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 5: your abilities on that platform in the Power five, you know,

587
00:26:26,840 –> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: helps me. You know, it was a beneficial I loved

588
00:26:30,400 –> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: every bit of it, you know. And Arbor was forty

589
00:26:33,040 –> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: five fifty minutes from Detroit, so it was close to home. Also,

590
00:26:36,480 –> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 5: my parents were able to you know, commute to the games,

591
00:26:39,200 –> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: and I had a lot of family and close friends come.

592
00:26:42,200 –> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 5: So you know, it was one of my best decisions.

593
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Speaker 2: It’s cool that you challenged yourself when you didn’t have

594
00:26:47,800 –> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: to do. You think that kind of helped you transition

595
00:26:50,080 –> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: into the later. You know, I’m always looking for challenges

596
00:26:53,240 –> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: in my life, the next challenge. You know, you complete

597
00:26:56,080 –> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: one challenge, you don’t want to get complacent or satisfied,

598
00:26:58,960 –> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: so you look for the next challenge. Man, that was

599
00:27:01,560 –> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: one of the challenges I wanted to take up You know,

600
00:27:03,440 –> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted me to, you know, forego

601
00:27:06,480 –> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: that last year and go to the draft, but I

602
00:27:08,840 –> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: felt like I needed that one year to, like I said,

603
00:27:11,400 –> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: it show case my ability on that platform.

604
00:27:14,160 –> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: Man.

605
00:27:14,760 –> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: You know, I ended up here.

606
00:27:16,720 –> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: It’s worked out.

607
00:27:17,480 –> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: It worked out, And that fifth year was at University

608
00:27:20,840 –> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: of Michigan and Justin Fields quarterbacked.

609
00:27:23,320 –> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: At Ohio State. Oh baby, and it’s my Dan. Everybody, Yeah,

610
00:27:29,960 –> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: get ready for this one. What an outstanding dude, not

611
00:27:33,359 –> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: just a really good football player, but a great person.

612
00:27:36,040 –> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he’s awesome. Like I said on the front end,

613
00:27:38,840 –> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: he’s someone who just has gotten better and better every

614
00:27:41,200 –> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: single year. And we asked him about his decision to

615
00:27:44,080 –> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: transfer to Michigan when he could have just gone straight

616
00:27:46,280 –> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: to the draft after his huge season at Central Michigan,

617
00:27:49,600 –> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: And to me, from the get go, that said so

618
00:27:51,440 –> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: much about him, because it would have been so easy

619
00:27:53,520 –> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: to rest on these giant numbers at a MAX school

620
00:27:57,160 –> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: and get drafted and not worry about going somewhere else.

621
00:28:00,000 –> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: Doesn’t feel like he has anything to prove. He didn’t

622
00:28:02,400 –> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: look at it that way. He wanted to challenge himself

623
00:28:04,720 –> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: before he went to the NFL and to go to Michigan,

624
00:28:07,320 –> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: to go to a big school, to compete with other

625
00:28:09,440 –> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: players for playing time, and to show that he belonged

626
00:28:12,359 –> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: at that level before going to the NFL. Said everything

627
00:28:15,080 –> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: I needed to know about his character when I first

628
00:28:17,040 –> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: learned about him. And that’s why I think he’s had

629
00:28:18,800 –> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: so much success in the NFL as a player who’s

630
00:28:20,720 –> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 2: consistently gotten better and better every single year, because that’s

631
00:28:23,720 –> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: simply the way he’s wired.

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Speaker 1: And he named this episode because you heard him say

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Speaker 1: Spags is a wizard. Then this is where Mike Dana

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Speaker 1: being on this episode I think is particularly good because

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Speaker 1: Mike has the propensity, which is not easy to do

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Speaker 1: to play outside. Inside we talk about techniques like a

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Speaker 1: zero tech is right over the center. Mike can play

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Speaker 1: a one tech which is in the gap between the

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Speaker 1: garden center, or he can play three, five and seven

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Speaker 1: and Spags moves him around. Spags will move Felix and

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Speaker 1: Udka Ozama around. He’ll move when we get him back.

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Speaker 1: Charles Amena who around and it confused Jackson and Villain.

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Speaker 3: That game.

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Speaker 1: You and I watched it all during the spring and summer.

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Speaker 1: We see it in Saint Joseph. You have to really

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Speaker 1: track it if you’re a fan, because Spags will have

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Speaker 1: a thousand things dialed up. But the fact that Mike

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Speaker 1: Dana can do it defend the run when you’re inside,

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Speaker 1: which you have to do it’s all about getting sacks

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Speaker 1: or pressures is adding. One thing is for Spags to

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Speaker 1: try to dream up all this stuff. Yes, he’s the Wizard,

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Speaker 1: but it’s having guys able to do it. And right now,

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Speaker 1: defensively personnel wise, ever since Bags has been here, I

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Speaker 1: think he’s closer, but this is the best group he’s

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Speaker 1: had to do all the stuff the Wizard once.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: We said that way back in OTAs that this had

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Speaker 2: a chance to be the best defense personnel wise and

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Speaker 2: talent wise that we’ve had in the Patrick Mahomes era,

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Speaker 2: and so far we’re seeing it through two weeks, especially

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Speaker 2: against Jacksonville getting Chris Jones back kind of adding what

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Speaker 2: he does to the rest of the group. It’s been

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Speaker 2: so exciting and so encouraging about what this group can

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Speaker 2: do over the rest of the season. So many young

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Speaker 2: players on this defense and for them to take big

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Speaker 2: strides and leaps over the summer and to apply it

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Speaker 2: now to the regular season has been really really exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: And for guys like Mike who have been here now

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Speaker 2: for a while, and like I said earlier, they just

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Speaker 2: find ways to get better and better every single season.

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Speaker 2: Says a lot about who they are, says a lot

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Speaker 2: about the coaches here, and I’m just so encouraged about

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Speaker 2: what this group can do over the next several months.

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Speaker 2: That versatility point is a big one as well, because

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Speaker 2: guys aren’t pigeonholed into roles here, and it’s really been

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Speaker 2: that way with Spags his entire career.

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Speaker 3: What all can you do?

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Speaker 2: And when you’re an opposing offense and you’re looking at

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Speaker 2: all these playmakers in the Chiefs defense right now, you

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Speaker 2: don’t quite know how to prepare because you don’t know

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Speaker 2: how they’re going to approach you every single week. And

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Speaker 2: that’s why this group right now I should have Chiefs

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Speaker 2: fans very excited, because, like I said earlier, when you

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Speaker 2: have Patrick Mahomes and the offense that we do, and

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Speaker 2: we know they’ll get really rolling here as we progress,

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Speaker 2: you know the Chiefs are going to score points. And

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Speaker 2: if the Chiefs defense plays like this, puts a lot

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Speaker 2: of pressure on the other team because you have to

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Speaker 2: try to find a way to keep up with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: And this Chief’s defense right now is playing like a

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Speaker 2: defense that’s not going to let anyone do that.

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Speaker 1: So how do you throw water on the wicked witch?

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Speaker 1: And let’s just close it out this way because tying

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Speaker 1: this defense into this a specific opponent. And did you

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Speaker 1: notice how and Mike the fur went up? And I’ve

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Speaker 1: talked about Michigan Ohio State. Oh yeah, because he’s very

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Speaker 1: respectful towards Central Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Two. I love that he’s time there.

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Speaker 1: He loved his time there, and it’s so it’s not

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Speaker 1: like he’s dissing his time at CMU. But the Bears,

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Speaker 1: justin fields last year had eleven hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: yards rushing. Only two other quarterbacks are even in that

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Speaker 1: discussion of that kind of year rushing the ball, and

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Speaker 1: that’s Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: That’s it.

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Speaker 1: But it appears now the Bears are trying to make

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Speaker 1: fields more of a pocket passer. There’s danger here. Dj

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Speaker 1: Moore is a really good receiver right Cole Kmet’s an

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Speaker 1: emerging tight end. But to me, it is running the

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00:31:59,160 –> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: ball with Khalil Herbert used to play at Kansas, transfer

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Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 4: Really good football player.

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Speaker 1: Then Rosehawn Johnson who was at Texas the same time

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Speaker 1: as Jon Robinson. How did they lose a game? Just

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Speaker 1: give it to like the big kids every time. But

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Speaker 1: there’s some challenges here for this Chiefs defense to try

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Speaker 1: to continue this search for sure.

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Speaker 2: And I suspect we’re going to see something different from

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Speaker 2: fields this week. Maybe I’m wrong, but.

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Speaker 4: You live with you. I think they go back to

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know you laid it out last year.

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Speaker 2: He rushes for over one thousand yards from the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: He had seventy three designed runs for himself last season.

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Speaker 2: I believe only Jalen Hurts had more. He had four

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards on those designed runs, and then

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Speaker 2: on runs that weren’t designed just scrambles, had over five

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Speaker 2: hundred yards rushing. Just a really dynamic, electric player with

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Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. They’re trying to make them

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Speaker 2: more of a pocket passer, like you said, and so

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Speaker 2: far they’ve just struggled to kind of find that balance.

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Speaker 2: He’s been sacked ten times this year. Only CJ. Stroud

733
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Speaker 2: of the Texans has been sacked more times, and I

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Speaker 2: think if you’re the Bears trying to get into a

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Speaker 2: rhythm offensively, because so far they’ve been out scored sixty

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Speaker 2: five to thirty seven through the first two weeks, I

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Speaker 2: really think we’re going to see a lot more of

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Speaker 2: fields the runner in this game, and the Chiefs have

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Speaker 2: to be prepared for it now. Fortunately, we’ve talked about

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Speaker 2: how much we love the personnel on this defense. They’re

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Speaker 2: also really athletic and I think designed to stop runners

742
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Speaker 2: like justin fields. But he’ll be a challenge, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: It’s easy to look at the Bears and say they’rerow

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00:33:26,600 –> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: into they’ve struggled. It’s going to be hard because certainly

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Speaker 2: this Bears team has their backup against the wall. They’re

746
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Speaker 2: trying to prove that they are not what they’ve shown

747
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Speaker 2: through the first two weeks, and like you and I

748
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Speaker 2: believe they have more talent than their record indicates. So

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Speaker 2: it’ll be a challenge for the Chiefs, but they’ll be

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Speaker 2: equipped because I love the athletic personnel that we have

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Speaker 2: on this defense.

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Speaker 1: And the Bears turning it over. That’s three interceptions for

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Speaker 1: fields in two weeks. You mentioned all the sacks that

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Speaker 1: they’ve got runners and he is still a talent, especially

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Speaker 1: running the ball. So the Chiefs defense, can they stack

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Speaker 1: it up another week and put three weeks together. We’ll

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Speaker 1: see what the Wizard of Spags has up his sleeve.

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Speaker 1: Wom