The Best of Times & The Worst of Times | Defending The Kingdom 9/2

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Chiefs Reporter Matt McMullen – plus various special guests – break down the latest news and storylines in Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitchelters with you, Voice of

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Speaker 1: back barbershop Shop the barbershop, Sean Barber. Ten year in

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Speaker 1: to see my friend, and it’s so great to be

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Speaker 1: back back in the seat, right back talking about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Right ready for the revenge to what this thought. Man,

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Speaker 1: and the Defending the Kingdom. Brought to you, of course

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Speaker 1: This episode is going to be entitled the Best of

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Speaker 1: Times and the Worst of Times. We try to be

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Speaker 1: culture bringing in Charles Dickens here. But before we do that,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we’ve kind of had some fun

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Speaker 1: with is where people are listening or watching Defending the Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: and I got one this week that’s from Lithuania. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Gary Shelby from Lithuania says it’s the tip of the

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Speaker 1: spear of the Chief’s Kingdom. I guess so unless you’re

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Speaker 1: in you know, north of Lithuania someplace. But it’s shop.

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Speaker 1: It’s crazy where people man has some guy listens to

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Speaker 1: we’ve been on it for a couple of years. It’s

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Speaker 1: over the place, and it’s it’s amazing. He mentioned the

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Speaker 1: tip of the spear. I haven’t heard of that concept

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Speaker 1: that first kickoff. We wanted to go out there and

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Speaker 1: a calling card to a calling card to war for

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Speaker 1: special teams. As we prepared to run out there, for

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Speaker 1: that first kickoff or kickoff return. Well, we’ve got the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster now to start the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one season, and that’s what we’re dealing with on this episode.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a bye week here the way that the

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Speaker 1: There could be so a few tweaks here, but what

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Speaker 1: we see is what we’ve got, and we’re going to

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Speaker 1: title list the best of times and the worst of times.

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Speaker 1: Let’s talk about why it’s the best of times. And

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, two guys, what excites you

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Speaker 1: most about the fifty three man roster medal? Start with you,

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Speaker 1: all right? So two things. First of all, creativity, the

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Speaker 1: options that coachread has to be creative offensively. And think

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Speaker 1: tight end sets, three tight endsets. How having Noah Gray

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Speaker 1: and Blake Belt allow you to do that? But now,

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Speaker 1: Jody Fortson in the fold, on the initial fifty three

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Speaker 1: do a touchdown against the Minnesota Vikings eleven times last year,

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Speaker 1: teams ran four tight end sets only eleven times all year,

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Speaker 1: And also just depth. I mean, particularly in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: Think about the offensive line rebuild was all about depth.

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Speaker 1: We know the starting five, but think about the backups

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Speaker 1: think about the term fourteen personnel. How many times do

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Speaker 1: really don’t know how you defend against the fourteen personnel.

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Speaker 1: coming here. Here’s what excites me about it. And it’s

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Speaker 1: the four tight ends as well, but it’s countermeasures. This

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I put four tight ends on the field.

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Speaker 1: and you can tag this is what Spags has done

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Speaker 1: line up and they have We called it a joker package,

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Speaker 1: You don’t know who we bring in, whether we overload

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Speaker 1: an amazing thing to see a defense get to a

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Speaker 1: point where you can trust and now when it comes

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Speaker 1: The guys not only gonna come when you tell them

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Speaker 1: to see Coach Bags has finally got the personnel the

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Speaker 1: people who want on the field, anyone want one point

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Speaker 1: in time where we’re gonna see how creative we can

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Speaker 1: that too, because think about what Spacks did in New York.

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Speaker 1: He had the four aces defense, right, it’s four defensive

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Speaker 1: ends basically playing on the defensive line where you have

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Speaker 1: all these different guys that you can rotate in there.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you don’t have a guy that’s traditionally a

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Speaker 1: And then Chris Jones, a defensive tackle, can play defensive end.

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Speaker 1: Mike Danna can do that too. And also you have

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to the pressure this year, the defense

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Speaker 1: be awesome. And the ASA Clubs in that, yeah, is

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Speaker 1: Rossom again are defending the Kingdom brought to you by

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Speaker 1: three sixty vodka. This episode entitled the Best of Times

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Speaker 1: the Worst of Times. I’m gonna have a little fun

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Speaker 1: before we transition out of why it’s also the worst

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Speaker 1: of times. What of this fifty three person roster and

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Speaker 1: I’m gonna throw in a fifty fourth because there’s gonna

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Speaker 1: be a roster move here. What draft round do you

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Speaker 1: think is boast represented on this roster? What round were

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Speaker 1: Answer would be none of them. Here’s what’s crazy crazy

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Speaker 1: this team was undrafted. Wow, it gives me chills to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Now, you guys have let’s just go

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Speaker 1: through here a second. Dude, you came out of Richmond,

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Speaker 1: an FCS school, proud school, great academic tradition. You’ve had

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Speaker 1: are free undrafted free agents that just that blows me away. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can definitely speak to the heart of what it’s

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Speaker 1: as an unrecruited, undrafted player. Many of my friends did.

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Speaker 1: But that mindset you have coming from a University of Richard,

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Speaker 1: a part of that program. And then year in a

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Speaker 1: year out, I felt like I was always the fifty

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Speaker 1: but it also kept me very hard working, and that

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Speaker 1: to be in your wheelhouse. Because I’m fortune has worked.

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Speaker 1: He’s the guy that’s been cut. He sat in the car. Dude,

413
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Speaker 1: you’re not you didn’t make it. Hang in there. No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn’t mean no, might not mean just right now,

415
00:19:08,680 –> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff right, we all just talked about that.

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00:19:11,560 –> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 1: Now he’s made it. He was in front of the

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00:19:13,600 –> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: media earlier this week and it was awesome. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this and shop. I’m

419
00:19:19,480 –> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna let matt wig in him. But when we get

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Speaker 1: your thought, now, the tension changes, because I remember the

421
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Speaker 1: tension I felt. Let’s go back to my little episode.

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00:19:27,600 –> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 1: I finally get it. I got shut down. I made it.

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00:19:31,119 –> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: Beat two hundred ninety eight to lose, right, I beat

424
00:19:33,760 –> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: two hundred ninety five to lose. But now I get it.

425
00:19:36,680 –> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: And now my stomach starts to turn for another reason,

426
00:19:39,400 –> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: because now it’s time to play. Jody, you’ve made it.

427
00:19:43,160 –> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 1: You get about forty eight hours to enjoy it. But

428
00:19:46,560 –> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 1: now what are you gonna do? So Matt here he is,

429
00:19:49,760 –> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 1: he’s got a chance, but now he has to play

430
00:19:52,520 –> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 1: and make place. When I think him having that perspective

431
00:19:55,160 –> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: of being cut is going to help him, don’t you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean? His media a couple days ago was awesome,

433
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Speaker 1: and he even said right away, I haven’t made it.

434
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Speaker 1: This isn’t my dream to make a team. My dream

435
00:20:04,320 –> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: is to play in the NFL and have a long career.

436
00:20:06,200 –> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: This is a step in the process. I think he

437
00:20:07,960 –> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: understands that, and he understands this was just part of

438
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Speaker 1: what he’s trying to do to achieve his dream. And

439
00:20:13,440 –> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I think when you have that perspective, it isn’t given

440
00:20:15,359 –> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: to you. I think it’s a lot easier to go

441
00:20:17,040 –> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 1: out there and make plays and play loose and just

442
00:20:19,720 –> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: be a great football player. I mean, is that kind

443
00:20:21,480 –> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: of point do you think, Sean? Yeah, definitely. Man, it’s

444
00:20:23,680 –> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: time to put up a shut up. You tell yourself

445
00:20:26,080 –> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: what you want. I’ve been investing my time, sacrificing my

446
00:20:29,800 –> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: treasure and my talent because I believe that I’m good

447
00:20:32,280 –> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 1: enough to be in this league. And no matter how

448
00:20:34,240 –> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: many times he looked at himself in a mirror and

449
00:20:36,080 –> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 1: told himself, I’m good enough, I’m good enough, I’m good enough,

450
00:20:39,119 –> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: it wasn’t until he gets that last sealer approval that

451
00:20:43,080 –> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: last When it’s time to play the Cleveland Browns, not

452
00:20:46,720 –> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: only is he part of the team, but now he

453
00:20:48,640 –> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: wants to be active. He wants to be an active

454
00:20:51,359 –> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: member when it comes to kicking the Browns, but on

455
00:20:55,280 –> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: game one of the season, he wants to be a

456
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Speaker 1: part of that. Not just to practice, not the preparation,

457
00:21:00,600 –> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: but he wants to make an impact in his league

458
00:21:02,760 –> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: as a player. Everybody has the same desire. Right, you

459
00:21:06,160 –> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: want to be accepted. You want to be impactful, But

460
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Speaker 1: you want to make a difference. Right. You don’t want

461
00:21:10,600 –> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: to walk away and just being a call or just

462
00:21:14,520 –> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: a sidebar. Now you want to you want to score.

463
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Speaker 1: You want to you want to let your teammates know

464
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Speaker 1: you’ve done everything to prepare yourself at this moment and

465
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Speaker 1: when it’s time for that could pay to be called.

466
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Speaker 1: You want pat to have the trust in you that

467
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Speaker 1: you’re prepared to make that catch, make that play so

468
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Speaker 1: you can spike that ball in the end zone and

469
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Speaker 1: have everybody remember your name when you got he made

470
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Speaker 1: the team. Now you’re the Richmond dude made the team.

471
00:21:37,200 –> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: La Barbara made the team. Wow? When did the kick in? Like, Okay, now,

472
00:21:42,720 –> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: I gotta do it About the fourth week of the season. Really,

473
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Speaker 1: it took that long man up until the fourth week

474
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Speaker 1: in the season. I was still puking on the I

475
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Speaker 1: mean going out for the week one like I was

476
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Speaker 1: playing with. I had Daryl Green, I asked some some

477
00:21:54,840 –> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: all pro guys. I was still like in all of that,

478
00:21:57,240 –> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: I was even on the field with him. Yeah. Marcus

479
00:21:59,240 –> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Patton Marfka’s Patton was the middle linebacker when I was

480
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Speaker 1: on the field as the weak linebacker with the red Skins.

481
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Speaker 1: Many of years playing here, I know MP. Many of

482
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Speaker 1: the viewers remember MP. Good, great dude. But being a

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00:22:11,600 –> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: guy out of Richmond and just dreaming about playing football.

484
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Speaker 1: It was about the fourth game of the season when

485
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Speaker 1: I realized it’s just football, like it really is. Like

486
00:22:20,760 –> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: they talk about the speed of the game and everything’s getting.

487
00:22:23,800 –> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: People run faster, they hit harder. I’m the hammer. I’m

488
00:22:27,800 –> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: not the nail. I’m not taking it from anybody. I’m

489
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Speaker 1: delivering the blow. I’m the aggress out here, right. I

490
00:22:34,400 –> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: get to set the tempo. I’m making you come. You

491
00:22:36,600 –> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: gotta come pack your lunch and come to my party.

492
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Speaker 1: I’m not just a participant in this. No, no, this

493
00:22:41,760 –> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: is my show. This the Sean Barber Show. And at

494
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Speaker 1: the fourth game is when I took control of my

495
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Speaker 1: destiny and I wasn’t just trying to be in the

496
00:22:49,440 –> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: league anymore. No, this is my league. I own it.

497
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Speaker 1: It’s my destiny. You know, I’m the creator. And so

498
00:22:55,200 –> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: that’s when it all became different. And then from Game

499
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Speaker 1: four until I guess ten seasons later, that’s when I

500
00:23:00,840 –> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: Randy on a kickoff kind of hurt my neck and

501
00:23:02,440 –> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: was like, yoh, this ain’t it for me no more.

502
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Speaker 1: That’s though, That’s a cool point though, because I think

503
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Speaker 1: about what Tyron Matthew said before the very first preseason game.

504
00:23:09,600 –> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I asked him, what’s your advice to the young guys

505
00:23:12,280 –> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: trying to make this team going out there on a

506
00:23:13,840 –> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: professional field for the first time, and he said, go

507
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Speaker 1: out there and play the game you’ve been playing since

508
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Speaker 1: you were five, and just let them let the world

509
00:23:20,280 –> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: know who you are. That’s all he wanted them to do.

510
00:23:22,400 –> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: And you look at this roster and the guys that

511
00:23:24,280 –> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: made the very end of this roster, the bubble guys

512
00:23:26,240 –> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: that made it. That’s what they did. They went out

513
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Speaker 1: there in the preseason, guys like Jody and we’re like,

514
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Speaker 1: you know what, I’m not worried about all the noise.

515
00:23:32,240 –> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: I know what I can do. I’m gonna go out

516
00:23:33,960 –> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: there and play football. It’s but I’ve been doing my

517
00:23:35,600 –> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: whole life right. It shouldn’t be that hard. I can

518
00:23:37,440 –> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: do this once I put everything else, all the distractions aside.

519
00:23:40,760 –> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: And for the guys that made this team, it’s just

520
00:23:42,600 –> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: a really awesome thing to see how they took that

521
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Speaker 1: and then achieves their achieve their dream because they put

522
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Speaker 1: all that thing, all that stuff aside and realized I

523
00:23:49,800 –> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: can be a football player in this league. Yeah, we’ve

524
00:23:52,080 –> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: seen it with Fountain two. But again, to just reiterate,

525
00:23:54,480 –> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of this roster is undrafted. Undrafted, It’s

526
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Speaker 1: just it’s crazy. Final part of this the best of

527
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Speaker 1: times the worst of times episode on the Defending the

528
00:24:06,560 –> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: Kingdom would be going back now to the abnormality of

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Speaker 1: this roster. What are we seeing in the NFL because

530
00:24:12,440 –> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: we’ve got corners that are safeties that are corners. We

531
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Speaker 1: get so to me and Matt, we’ve talked about this,

532
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Speaker 1: and shop you and I have two I think the

533
00:24:20,000 –> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: worst thing to do for any of us is to

534
00:24:21,680 –> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: pigeonholesome guy and to say he’s this or that. You

535
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Speaker 1: look at this roster. I got a whole bunch of

536
00:24:27,480 –> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: this and that’s yeah, it doesn’t exist anymore. If you’re

537
00:24:30,160 –> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: just one position, that’s just not the case anymore. You

538
00:24:32,400 –> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: have to be versatile in this league, and we’re seeing

539
00:24:34,600 –> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: that across this team on both sides of the ball.

540
00:24:36,640 –> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: So think about the offensive line rebuild. Really no one

541
00:24:39,600 –> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: on this roster is just a guard or just a tackle.

542
00:24:42,320 –> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: Almost everyone can play guard and center, or both tackle spots,

543
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Speaker 1: or tackle and guard. Think about Andrew Wiley, he can

544
00:24:48,040 –> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: play guard and tackle for you. Nick Alagredy center and guard.

545
00:24:51,000 –> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: The list goes on. These guys can all play different spots.

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Speaker 1: That’s very important to keep in mind. It’s how the

547
00:24:55,040 –> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: defensive secondary is set up. Guys like Lagarius Sneed can

548
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Speaker 1: play both slot and outside corner. But then you can

549
00:25:00,520 –> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: have Tyron Matthew. He can play anywhere you want. He

550
00:25:02,960 –> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: could be the best corner in the league if he

551
00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: wanted to, but he’s a safety. So you have defensive

552
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Speaker 1: backs that can play all over the place. And then

553
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Speaker 1: also I mentioned it earlier, but we’re seeing it along

554
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Speaker 1: the defensive line too, because you have guys like Mike

555
00:25:12,640 –> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: Dana Tore, Shaun Wharton, and Chris Jones that can each

556
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Speaker 1: play both inside and outside. So you have guys that

557
00:25:17,960 –> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: can do different things for you. So if you’re looking

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Speaker 1: at the depth at certain spots, I would just stress

559
00:25:21,640 –> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: not looking at necessarily the letter next to their name,

560
00:25:24,040 –> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: because these guys can all do different different things. And

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Speaker 1: part of the creativity of Spags and Shop and I’ve

562
00:25:29,160 –> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: talked about this, and we have two Nichols usually three corners,

563
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Speaker 1: two safeties. Not with spags. Now that could be three

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Speaker 1: safeties in two corners. He could play a dime with

565
00:25:38,280 –> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: four safeties. What do we see in Sean? Is this

566
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Speaker 1: just the Chiefs or is this what football is turning into? Well?

567
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Speaker 1: I think growing up, everybody tells you that availability is

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Speaker 1: the best ability. I think with the Chiefs and showing

569
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Speaker 1: you his versatility, it might be the best ability at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. And that’s the way of

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Speaker 1: this learning how to continue to evolve what you do,

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Speaker 1: not only just keep it with times, but you want

573
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Speaker 1: to be a trendset. We want we want other teams

574
00:26:04,280 –> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: looking at us and like who is coming from where?

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Speaker 1: Who’s got deep half? Is this a man coverage? Is

576
00:26:09,760 –> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: this half man half zone? What kind of concepts are

577
00:26:12,840 –> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: going on? By the time the quarterback figures it out,

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Speaker 1: he got sag Nation, the president CEO of sag Nation

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Speaker 1: breathing down his throat, right, he got Mike Danna a

580
00:26:23,000 –> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: palm and in his face giving him the dirty the

581
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Speaker 1: dirty bird or something like that. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean it creates doubt. Everything on defense is to

583
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Speaker 1: make something look like something while we’re really doing something else.

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Speaker 1: Calls a split second of doubt, so that you and

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Speaker 1: your receivers and running backs throw the protection off that

586
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Speaker 1: that that that that the hair second, that extra second

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Speaker 1: it takes you to deliver the ball is usually gonna

588
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Speaker 1: result in a turnover, a sack, pressure fumble, something like that.

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Speaker 1: And that’s what we do at a at a very

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Speaker 1: high level. But it takes very smart players, very versatile players,

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00:26:57,680 –> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: because a D and R defense stands for dime, but

592
00:27:00,560 –> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: three different players can play it. A corner is a corner,

593
00:27:03,359 –> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: but a safety or nickel can be there depending on

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00:27:05,240 –> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: how the offensive set comes out. On defense, when you

595
00:27:09,359 –> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: can know each other’s jobs and we don’t need to

596
00:27:12,480 –> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: be rock rolling, safety switching running over, you just line

597
00:27:16,359 –> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: up as a defense. You let the offense make your set, reset,

598
00:27:20,760 –> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: change positions, and when you’re ready to go play football.

599
00:27:24,119 –> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Now we’re ready to go because we all know what

600
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: we gotta do. We’re waiting for you this hike the

601
00:27:28,240 –> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: ball so we can come hit you in the face.

602
00:27:30,160 –> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: And that’s what we do on defense. But everybody has

603
00:27:32,440 –> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: to be on the same page. You have to be

604
00:27:33,960 –> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: great communicators and you have to trust one another. And

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00:27:36,800 –> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: I think as this defense gets a little bit longer

606
00:27:39,480 –> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: in the tooth, I love Hitchens and Willie Gay. We

607
00:27:43,200 –> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: talk about him and bolting of the linebackers. Obviously, I

608
00:27:45,600 –> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: gotta give a shout out to those linebackers anytime I can,

609
00:27:48,320 –> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: because that’s the heart of the defense. But we know

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger and those safeties of the brain and they

611
00:27:53,720 –> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: make it go. So we got the heart of the brain.

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Speaker 1: I don’t know what part of the body. Chris Jones

613
00:27:58,000 –> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: and those guys clubs, clubs or Trump. We’re playing clubs

614
00:28:04,400 –> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: and then playing at ace, so he is the ace.

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Speaker 1: It’s gonna be fun, Matt, Yeah, it’s gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. I want to add one thing to

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Speaker 1: that point too, because think about special teams. How important

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Speaker 1: with special teams in this preseason. If you want to

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Speaker 1: be versatile, that also means playing on special teams. Think

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Speaker 1: about Jerick McKinnon. He comes to mind. He made this team,

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Speaker 1: yes as a running back, but also because of what

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Speaker 1: he did on special teams in the preseason. He was

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Speaker 1: awesome on special teams. Makes his team as a running back.

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Speaker 1: And I’ll get back to Jody Fortson one more time.

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Speaker 1: This is like the Jody Fortson podcast. At this point.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty nine special teams snaps in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: That was the most of any player. So and he

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Speaker 1: played really well on special teams. So when you’re thinking

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Speaker 1: about players that made this team, it wasn’t just offense,

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Speaker 1: wasn’t just defense and what they can do in terms

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Speaker 1: of their versatility there. It was also special teams and

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Speaker 1: that would be very important, particularly for the guys in

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Speaker 1: the back end of this roster as the season goes on.

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Speaker 1: Dave Tobs ninth season here, I think this is his

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Speaker 1: best core of special teams guys he’s ever had, Iron Pringle,

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Speaker 1: Ben Nieman, Dorian O’Daniel. Now Fortson joins that list are

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Speaker 1: wat some money, So there are dudes there. You want

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Speaker 1: to find the Matthew Slaters of the world, right and

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Speaker 1: if you got some of those guys, I can still

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Speaker 1: be on scrimmage downs that great point, great point. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: if you haven’t learned from the wisdom of Smoke Barber,

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Speaker 1: that’s the father of Sean and what a great life

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Speaker 1: he had. And so but know this, as we close

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Speaker 1: out this edition of Defending the Kingdom, you can either

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Speaker 1: be the stick or you can be the Panada. You

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Speaker 1: can be the hammer stick, right, don’t want to be

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Speaker 1: I want to start every Monday like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be the stick of the nailer. Did you

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Speaker 1: ever hammer the nail? Did you guys ever stay up

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Speaker 1: and study for the test? I could never do it.

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Speaker 1: I get like two o’clock and I’m like, I can’t

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Speaker 1: do it anymore. But these coordinators that play us, they’re

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Speaker 1: gonna be up all night for tourist for nights. And

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Speaker 1: I’m not talking just the defensive coordinators. I’m talking about

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator going, how do I set my protections

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Speaker 1: against these guests? Yeah, this is gonna be fun. Sean Barber,

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Speaker 1: the shop is always open. Matt McMullen, the Human Flash Drive.

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Speaker 1: You can follow them on Twitter And thanks to the

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Speaker 1: folks add three sixty Vodka for being the sponsor of

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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom. The best of times, the worst of times,

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Speaker 1: but now we hit it full throttle. Next week we

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Speaker 1: get ready for the Cleveland Browns. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: in this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Touchdown down and

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Speaker 1: the celebration begins in their own head

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