Trench Work | OT and DT Draft Preview | Defending the Kingdom 4/12

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Senior Team Reporter Matt McMullen break down some offensive tackles and defensive tackles to know in this year’s NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: It’s getting closer everyone, It’s getting closer to Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: It’s the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. And welcome to

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Speaker 1: this episode of Defending the Kingdom, which filters with your

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Speaker 1: Voice to the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt mcmulland.

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Speaker 1: And you can start. Always this time of year, you

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Speaker 1: capital city of the Kingdom, it’s the capital city of

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Speaker 1: and that’s what’s really interesting. And you can go to

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Speaker 1: SPORTCC dot org. That’s of course the Polks. The Greater

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Speaker 1: for years. But at their website, it gives you the

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Speaker 1: artists rendering of what it’s going to look like. Plus

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Speaker 1: this episode. Next week we got a really cool defending

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Speaker 1: Chief’s Kingdom. Yeah, so we’ve got eleven Today for Mark

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Speaker 1: Richard is in southern California. Caro and Madayoush are in Dortmund, Germany.

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Speaker 1: for offensive line. It’s like the least sexy discussion when

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Speaker 1: any level. You could be the Smith Center High School team,

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Speaker 1: This is where like as a football fan, I have

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Speaker 1: But you’re one hundred percent right. Football’s won in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: And think about Matt what he had done with the

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Speaker 1: Colts in twenty thirteen. But he said, everything goes faster.

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Speaker 1: Can I take you back to your youth. Let’s do it,

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Speaker 1: because think about the Kansas City Chiefs and what Chris

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Speaker 1: We’ve kind of laid all that out in past episodes

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Speaker 1: But think about another mountain man in there. Let me

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, two thousand and five Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: the Oh four Jaguars. I assert ruined the chief season

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Speaker 1: twenty two to sixteen because of John Henderson and Marcus Stroud.

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Speaker 1: John Henderson, John Henderson and Marcus Stroud. And this goes

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Speaker 1: Two John Henderson and Marcus Stroud were two skyscrapers that

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Speaker 1: then have the rotational pieces come in all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: Now you take the Kansas City Chiefs perhaps to another

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Speaker 1: defensive set. Yeah, because it opens up things for everybody,

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Speaker 1: But his stout power base and above average athleticism at

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Speaker 1: I think he’d be a great prototypical nose tackle in

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Speaker 1: Carl Brooks. If you want something sneaky out of Bulling Green, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don’t really care for when people say, well, they

411
00:20:25,080 –> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: played in the MAC or they played wherever. I don’t care.

412
00:20:28,359 –> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: If you can play, you can play, and you turn

413
00:20:30,440 –> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: the tape on. It’s obvious that Carl Brooks can play.

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Speaker 1: And the versatility that you mentioned again, Steve Spagnola would

415
00:20:36,800 –> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: love having a guy like that. Where as a rookie,

416
00:20:39,160 –> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: you could deploy him in different spots along the defensive line.

417
00:20:41,840 –> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: You’d take a lot of sense. Now we see Division

418
00:20:43,600 –> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: two players and FCS players become stars in this league.

419
00:20:47,200 –> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: All right, let’s go to the offensive line and people

420
00:20:50,480 –> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: go well, wait a minute, the offensive oh and needs

421
00:20:52,280 –> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: some tackles here, maybe ryand Orlando Brown juniors. Now Bengal

422
00:20:55,080 –> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiley has moved on. He’s got his next

423
00:20:57,680 –> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 1: spot and picking up Juwan. Now we’re gonna do it

424
00:21:00,960 –> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: right tackle guy Shlucas Niyanga setting there. But let’s talk

425
00:21:04,880 –> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: about this draft at offensive tackle in specific, because to me,

426
00:21:09,280 –> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: I think there is a direct correlation to the edge.

427
00:21:13,320 –> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: You’ve mentioned this many times in doing the scuba dive.

428
00:21:16,440 –> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: There’s a lot of edge rushers in this draft. You

429
00:21:19,119 –> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: could get really good value second, maybe even the third

430
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Speaker 1: round with offensive tackle, especially if you’re looking for right

431
00:21:25,480 –> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: tackle or guys that can move the guard. There’s a

432
00:21:28,200 –> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: bunch of guys in this draft. Yeah, particularly at thirty one.

433
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Speaker 1: I think there’s gonna be some options. You never know

434
00:21:34,200 –> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: how the board’s going to fall. Some teams might fall

435
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Speaker 1: in love with some guys that we think would be

436
00:21:38,280 –> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: available at thirty one and beyond. But I think there’s

437
00:21:41,359 –> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: a good shot that if the Chiefs want to add

438
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Speaker 1: a really good tackle prospect, they’re going to be able

439
00:21:46,160 –> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: to do so at thirty one. So one guy that

440
00:21:48,840 –> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: I wrote down is Anton Harrison from Oklahoma and one

441
00:21:52,720 –> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: of the better tackle prospects in this draft. He’s six

442
00:21:55,440 –> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: foot four three and fifteen pounds. Both the Pro Football

443
00:21:59,240 –> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: Focus and Day Burglar point out that he has the

444
00:22:01,600 –> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: movement skills of a smaller player despite immense size, which

445
00:22:06,200 –> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: is great because the tradeoff traditionally is if you have

446
00:22:09,000 –> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: a really big player, he’s going to struggle on an

447
00:22:10,920 –> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: island and be a little bit slower. But both Burglar

448
00:22:14,080 –> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: MPF think he has the movement skills to recover quickly

449
00:22:18,119 –> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: despite his big size. He’s a very athletic tackle and

450
00:22:21,440 –> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: he has good length, only allowed one knockdown all year

451
00:22:24,840 –> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: last season. PF thinks he’s an NFL ready pass protector,

452
00:22:28,880 –> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: which is great news because nobody throws the football more

453
00:22:31,119 –> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: than the Kansas City Chiefs. And here’s the big thing

454
00:22:33,680 –> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: for me. If you look at any of these outlets

455
00:22:35,560 –> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: that do these evaluations, they think he projects as either

456
00:22:38,240 –> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: a left or a right tackle in the NFL. A

457
00:22:41,040 –> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: lot of times, even these top tackle prospects, if you

458
00:22:44,560 –> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: look closely, will say probably best as a guard or

459
00:22:48,000 –> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: probably a right tackle in the NFL. It’s really hard

460
00:22:51,240 –> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: to find left tackle prospects in the NFL. And if

461
00:22:54,760 –> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: you can get a guy like Anton Harrison. Maybe he

462
00:22:56,560 –> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: doesn’t play left tackle right away, but he can do

463
00:22:59,240 –> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: it if needed, or down the line, he can play

464
00:23:01,440 –> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: left tackle. That’s a serious luxury that it’s hard to find,

465
00:23:04,920 –> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 1: especially at pick number thirty one in the draft. So

466
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Speaker 1: Anton Harrison is a guy that I like a lot.

467
00:23:09,760 –> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I like him a lot too, and his athleticism is special.

468
00:23:13,520 –> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: I think. All right, Now, I dove into your childhood

469
00:23:17,400 –> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: right with the monsters that were the Jacksonville Jaguars when

470
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Speaker 1: you were in your heyday of loving the Chiefs, right

471
00:23:23,800 –> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: about what ten eleven, twelve years old and how they

472
00:23:26,640 –> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: wrecked the two thousand and four season. I can still

473
00:23:28,600 –> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: see that game in that lack of converting and those

474
00:23:32,280 –> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: two monsters of the Jaguars. Do you remember Ty Law

475
00:23:34,720 –> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: picking off Quinn Gray in like two thousand five? Yeah, big, big,

476
00:23:38,760 –> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: big moment. Never forget it, yeah, Quinn Gray. Now I’m

477
00:23:43,760 –> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna jump into your family, especially your grandfather on your

478
00:23:46,720 –> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: maternal side, lose at Rook at Raccoon Mountain right Chattanooga. Ye,

479
00:23:50,720 –> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: And what does he love more than anything else other

480
00:23:52,760 –> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: than his family? Big orange baby, the Tennessee Volunteers. If

481
00:23:56,400 –> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: you look at this draft and the Tennessee Volunteers, people go, gosh,

482
00:24:00,000 –> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, how about the ACL has it going to

483
00:24:01,880 –> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: come back? And even more so in the Kingdom, who

484
00:24:03,960 –> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: they’re thinking about Jalen Hyatt, Right, yep, and he does.

485
00:24:08,359 –> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh when you start watching the offensive linemen, I’m gonna

486
00:24:12,000 –> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: talk about Darnell Right, you get caught on high like,

487
00:24:16,119 –> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 1: let me, I’m going back and look at that. No, no,

488
00:24:18,240 –> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: you’re supposed to watch the tackle. But Darnell Right gets

489
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Speaker 1: your attention. Okay, six three three thirty three. Love the

490
00:24:24,240 –> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: reach at thirty three and three fourths inches. Reaches big

491
00:24:28,160 –> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: for the offensive tackle. Here’s the other thing. For guards

492
00:24:32,200 –> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: and centers. You want wrestlers, think Creed Humphrey at tackles.

493
00:24:35,880 –> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: You want high school basketball players. Yeah. So Darnell Wright

494
00:24:39,560 –> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: is very athletic and he kind of went back and forth.

495
00:24:43,160 –> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: This goes to what you just mentioned about Harrison. But

496
00:24:46,520 –> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: twenty seven starts at right tackle. Then he had a

497
00:24:49,359 –> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: couple at right guard, played thirteen at left tackle, moved

498
00:24:52,480 –> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: him back to right tackle and kept him there. Here’s

499
00:24:55,040 –> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: a couple of things that jumped off the video at

500
00:24:56,840 –> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: me about Darnell Right. First of all, if he came

501
00:24:59,760 –> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, he could be an immediate swing tackle.

502
00:25:02,359 –> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: There’s your third tackle, and think of the role Andrew

503
00:25:05,440 –> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: Wiley had most of the time in his career. All right,

504
00:25:08,640 –> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: that’s his start, and then he could morph into possibly

505
00:25:11,400 –> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: being a starter or your tackle over tackle if you

506
00:25:14,720 –> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: go big. All right, here’s the things that caught my attention.

507
00:25:17,359 –> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: They played a lot of tempo offense at Tennessee, a lot,

508
00:25:20,560 –> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: meaning no huddle, you’re up and running baby. Well, that

509
00:25:23,280 –> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: doesn’t translate to the NFL until the two minute offense.

510
00:25:27,560 –> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: You get into the four minute to two minute offense,

511
00:25:29,560 –> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: and so many offensive linemen cannot hack it, particularly earlier

512
00:25:33,640 –> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: in their career. When you get into the two minute

513
00:25:35,640 –> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: offense and you’re playing these elite rushers like the Bosses,

514
00:25:38,520 –> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: but you’re now going without a huddle. He did an

515
00:25:41,480 –> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: excellent job in Tennessee’s tempo offense. The other thing is

516
00:25:44,760 –> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: they moved him a lot. They would move him from

517
00:25:46,640 –> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: right tackle on a snap and pull him all the

518
00:25:49,000 –> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: way out to the left side outside the left tackle.

519
00:25:51,040 –> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: That was impressive. They did it a lot. And then

520
00:25:53,800 –> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: the third thing was probably why he’ll move up the board.

521
00:25:57,280 –> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: One game can do it and it was his game

522
00:25:59,680 –> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: against Will Anderson Junior of Alabama. One pressure by the

523
00:26:03,040 –> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: guy who might be just might be the top pick

524
00:26:06,040 –> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: in this draft. That was Tennessee’s like forever super Bowl.

525
00:26:09,560 –> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: That game. I mean it was what they scored like

526
00:26:12,040 –> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: fifty points and won in the game, winning, and all

527
00:26:15,400 –> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: of their guys Grandpa like that game. I think he did. Yeah,

528
00:26:18,359 –> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: and Jaleen Hyatt had like four touchdowns something crazy. Everyone

529
00:26:23,400 –> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: wearing an orange uniform had a huge game against Alabama

530
00:26:26,080 –> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: and will be remembered forever a neil and stadium for it.

531
00:26:29,000 –> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, Darnell writes a heck of a player. I

532
00:26:31,080 –> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: really like how he responded going back to right tackle. Yeah,

533
00:26:34,440 –> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: so some guys might see that as like a demotion

534
00:26:37,000 –> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: or might get down on themselves because he struggled a

535
00:26:40,000 –> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: bit at left tackle, but went back to right tackle

536
00:26:42,840 –> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: and was maybe the best right tackle in all of

537
00:26:45,000 –> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: college football. So it says a lot about him as

538
00:26:46,800 –> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: a player. And again, he could be a guy that

539
00:26:49,400 –> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: you don’t have to rush him in and be the

540
00:26:50,960 –> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: first day one starter, but he could be a really

541
00:26:53,600 –> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: good swing tackle and an opportunity here for the Chiefs.

542
00:26:58,320 –> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: All right, let’s go to your next offensive. So I’ve

543
00:27:00,600 –> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: got Dwan Jones from Ohio State. If you want a

544
00:27:05,720 –> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: mountain of a human. He’s six foot eight, three hundred

545
00:27:09,680 –> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: and seventy four pounds, so for some context years not

546
00:27:13,080 –> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: the heaviest guy drafted in ten years. This guy will

547
00:27:16,119 –> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: be yeah. So, oh my gosh. If you ever saw

548
00:27:19,119 –> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown junior in person, he was a big guy. Well,

549
00:27:22,640 –> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones is thirty four pounds heavier than Orlando Brown.

550
00:27:26,680 –> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Doesn’t make any sense. He’s just gigantic and he has

551
00:27:30,119 –> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: a seven foot six wingspan. It broke the Senior Bowl record.

552
00:27:34,640 –> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: He’s just an absolute mammoth human being insane size and length,

553
00:27:39,640 –> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: and also really good at football. He didn’t allow a

554
00:27:41,600 –> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: single sacker hit last season for Ohio State. His one

555
00:27:45,119 –> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: point three percent pressure rate allowed led all tackles. Now,

556
00:27:50,000 –> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: when you’re that big, it’s hard to move yea and

557
00:27:53,440 –> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: him out on an island. His recovery speed, those are

558
00:27:56,240 –> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: all kind of knocks against him. People do say that

559
00:27:58,960 –> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: for his size, he’s actually pretty good at it, but

560
00:28:01,440 –> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: it’s just a reality. If you’re six foot eight, three

561
00:28:03,520 –> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four pounds, you may struggle against the

562
00:28:06,240 –> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: occasional speed rusher. Just it’s physics. But Duan Jones is

563
00:28:11,480 –> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna make it in the NFL with this size. Is

564
00:28:14,520 –> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: he a better fit for a run first, smash mouth

565
00:28:17,640 –> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of team like the Ravens. Probably, But when you

566
00:28:21,119 –> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: have that kind of size, especially if you’re putting in

567
00:28:23,760 –> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: that right tackle, I think it could work for the

568
00:28:26,680 –> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs because it’s hard to get around a six foot eight,

569
00:28:29,480 –> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy four pounds with a seven foot

570
00:28:31,640 –> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: six wingspans. Dwan Jones is a name to know, just

571
00:28:35,720 –> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: a mountain of a human being. When you watch his video,

572
00:28:38,760 –> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: you’re going Ravens right tackle. Yeah, sure, the ten guys

573
00:28:43,160 –> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: they’ve had that and he’ll dominate in that role for sure.

574
00:28:46,320 –> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah he’ll fit another guy that you had had your

575
00:28:49,800 –> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: eye on a while ago. But I’ll go with Matthew

576
00:28:53,440 –> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: bergeron six five, three twenty two pounds out of Syracuse.

577
00:28:57,080 –> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: Why is he fun? Because we remember Laraye n Hrd,

578
00:29:00,920 –> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: remember the Canadian doctor and fans would go, why do

579
00:29:02,920 –> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: you call him the Canadian doctor? Because he’s a Canadian doctor? Okay?

580
00:29:06,560 –> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Anyone a Super Bowl for the Chiefs at right guard.

581
00:29:09,000 –> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Bersieron is not a right guard. He’s a left tackle.

582
00:29:11,440 –> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: But he’s Canadian. Not sure he’s a doctor or not,

583
00:29:14,800 –> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: but he’s a Canadian and he’s been a four year

584
00:29:16,640 –> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: starter captain at Syracuse. Here’s what’s interesting. There are only

585
00:29:20,600 –> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: thirty seven players last year in college football from Canada

586
00:29:24,480 –> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: that played at Power five schools and only five of

587
00:29:28,680 –> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: those came from Quebec. Wow. So most of them think Ontario,

588
00:29:32,400 –> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Toronto right, not far from Buffalo, and but Quebec has

589
00:29:36,200 –> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: not pumped out a bunch of like French Canadian NFL players.

590
00:29:40,280 –> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: Here’s your next one. Bersieron is very good. If you

591
00:29:44,000 –> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: look at his run blocking, he’s been awesome for Syracuse.

592
00:29:48,400 –> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: It’s the pass blocking that he struggled against. And people

593
00:29:51,520 –> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: would say, if you want to look at the NFL ready, guys,

594
00:29:54,480 –> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: you look at the SEC, especially the SEC West. Yeah,

595
00:29:58,160 –> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: acc this Year’ll think about who he up against. Miles

596
00:30:01,240 –> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: Murphy of Clemson, first round pick, Isaiah Folky of Notre Dame.

597
00:30:05,800 –> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: If not a first round or early second round pick him,

598
00:30:07,880 –> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: he went up against some elite rushers this year. Kean

599
00:30:10,400 –> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: White probably at Georgia tax same thing, which I know

600
00:30:13,600 –> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: you love him, the old tight end at Old Dominion.

601
00:30:16,360 –> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: But Matthew Bergeron is a guy that is he a

602
00:30:19,640 –> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: left tackle, probably because a lot of these guys you

603
00:30:22,640 –> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: want to move to right tackle. Or I was going

604
00:30:24,640 –> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: to throw in a third guy here, Peter Scronsky, who’s

605
00:30:26,800 –> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: thought to be the number one tackle in this draft. Yeah,

606
00:30:29,640 –> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: to me, he’s Joe Tuney. I think he was Joe Tuney.

607
00:30:33,160 –> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: He was great at Northwestern on a one to eleven team,

608
00:30:35,200 –> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: beat Nebraska in the opening game in Ireland and that

609
00:30:37,480 –> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: was it. He played on a terrible offense, but he

610
00:30:40,800 –> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: was this great player at tackle. But he looks like

611
00:30:43,160 –> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney. So there’s a lot of guys you moved

612
00:30:45,560 –> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: to guard like Skronsky. A lot of guys you moved

613
00:30:48,320 –> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: maybe aren’t left tackle the right tackle. To me, bergerron

614
00:30:50,720 –> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: it’s not someone you would move. He’s gonna have to

615
00:30:53,000 –> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: grow into it. He’s not a Day one left tackle,

616
00:30:56,080 –> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: but he looks like a left tackle to me, what

617
00:30:58,000 –> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you said about Scarronsky is kind of what I was

618
00:30:59,680 –> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: getting at the beginning of the show where or I

619
00:31:02,440 –> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: guess the beginning of when we were talking about offensive tackles.

620
00:31:04,920 –> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: So many of these guys, no matter how good they are,

621
00:31:07,160 –> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it’s so hard to play tackle in the NFL that

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00:31:10,440 –> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: even if they’re one of the best tackles in the nation,

623
00:31:13,000 –> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: they might be a guard at the next level. And

624
00:31:15,280 –> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: that’s the hard reality when you’re looking for tackles in

625
00:31:17,280 –> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Just hard to find him. Now, Bergeron I

626
00:31:20,600 –> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: think could be a good player in the NFL. Is

627
00:31:23,000 –> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: he a first rounder? Probably not on. He’s probably a

628
00:31:25,120 –> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Day two, maybe Day three. But the Chiefs need a

629
00:31:28,120 –> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: French Canadian on the team. It’s been years now, so

630
00:31:31,000 –> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: he would make a lot of sense. We need somebody

631
00:31:33,920 –> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: from French Quebec back on this team for sure. I

632
00:31:37,040 –> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: love it. And yes, he’s got to show some consistency.

633
00:31:40,320 –> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: But he was the first freshman to start a tackle

634
00:31:42,800 –> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: for Syracusan twenty years and he was a four year starter.

635
00:31:45,920 –> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: He’s a great story. I mean I was reading Dane

636
00:31:48,800 –> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Brugler’s right up on him. He loved hockey like any

637
00:31:52,520 –> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Canadian does. Basketball was his first love. But all of

638
00:31:56,120 –> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a sudden he’s gigantic and they’re like, you gotta play football,

639
00:31:58,960 –> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: you just gotta do it. He’s like, all right, and

640
00:32:00,640 –> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: then turns out he’s going to end up in the NFL.

641
00:32:03,080 –> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: Not bad. Can I throw one more in? Of course,

642
00:32:05,560 –> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: just because this year we’re not going to have the

643
00:32:07,040 –> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: time because we’re hosting the draft for me to do

644
00:32:09,040 –> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: a feature that we’ve done in the past. I begged

645
00:32:11,360 –> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Glenn Conley, right, I begged him, can I do the

646
00:32:14,840 –> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Why do I Love this Guy so much? Feature? Right?

647
00:32:17,120 –> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Do you think about the years? Yeah? He said no,

648
00:32:19,000 –> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: we got it too much to do. So that’s the

649
00:32:22,040 –> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: way it is, man, And when you’re down the totem

650
00:32:23,720 –> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: pulsit anyway. Cody Mock of North Dakota State, Yes, he’s

651
00:32:29,520 –> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: the ultimate. He’s why do I love this guy so much?

652
00:32:33,520 –> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: He lost his two front teeth in junior high basketball

653
00:32:37,040 –> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: and never replaced him. You can actually get teeth put

654
00:32:39,560 –> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: in there, right, Cody says. No. He’s from a little

655
00:32:42,600 –> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: town in North Dakota of nine hundred people. He played

656
00:32:45,320 –> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: nine man football and some think he’s going to be

657
00:32:48,360 –> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: a first round pick, probably second round, probably a guard.

658
00:32:51,120 –> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: He played left tackle for North Dakota State. We know

659
00:32:53,320 –> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: how legendary that program is. But Cody Mock high on him.

660
00:32:57,280 –> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: A mention to you, buddy, missing your two front teeth.

661
00:33:00,520 –> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: He’s got big red hair, like just crazy, like you know,

662
00:33:04,640 –> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: it’s just a main Yeah. I mean he’s just got

663
00:33:06,680 –> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: this uh and a coach Read would love him like

664
00:33:09,280 –> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: he If Coach Read calls you a redhead, it’s one

665
00:33:11,720 –> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: of the greatest compliments he can get. Cody Mak, Man,

666
00:33:15,360 –> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: you put that red and gold uniform on him with

667
00:33:17,320 –> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: no teeth. And I mean, this dude played nine man football.

668
00:33:20,760 –> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Nine hundred people in his town, probably about ten people

669
00:33:23,680 –> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: in his graduating class. I’m gonna give a shout out

670
00:33:26,360 –> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: to Cody mak And he’s someone else who’s probably a

671
00:33:28,960 –> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: guard in the NFL. But I mean the Chiefs, their

672
00:33:32,080 –> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: interior offensive line is the best in the NFL in

673
00:33:34,680 –> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: my opinion. Like, if there’s one position group that I

674
00:33:36,720 –> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: don’t think the Chiefs are going to add, it’s probably

675
00:33:38,520 –> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: interior offensive line. But you never know the values there on.

676
00:33:42,080 –> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: A guy like Cody mok could be a very good

677
00:33:44,640 –> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: swing guard who can also play some tackle at the

678
00:33:46,920 –> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: next level. Plus Coach Read may just look at that

679
00:33:48,920 –> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: guy and go, hey, we’re gonna take it. We need him, Yeah,

680
00:33:51,080 –> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: we needna need him. Okay, Well, there you go. You

681
00:33:55,600 –> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: have to get it done in the trenches to win

682
00:33:57,960 –> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, especially in the playoffs, but

683
00:34:00,440 –> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: at any time. But man, it’s just so exciting now

684
00:34:03,040 –> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the draft and the draft

685
00:34:04,800 –> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: being in Kansas City, once in a lifetime experience. Yeah,

686
00:34:07,720 –> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: it’s really gonna be a once in a lifetime experience.

687
00:34:09,920 –> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: And what I’m so excited for. And this is the

688
00:34:12,040 –> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: absolute nerd in me. Zee and I are sitting in

689
00:34:14,120 –> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: the conference room just writing out our little board and

690
00:34:16,280 –> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: crossing names off and it’s eleven o’clock at night and

691
00:34:19,120 –> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: we’re like, someone’s still available. And then once the first

692
00:34:21,920 –> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: round is over, looking at day two, the draft is

693
00:34:24,520 –> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: so much fun and just we’re gonna have a go

694
00:34:26,280 –> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: pro in there for that. I think we should. Yeah,

695
00:34:28,440 –> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: that’s a good idea. Yeah, as long as we edit it. Yeah,

696
00:34:30,840 –> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: just seeing how it all plays out, right, seeing the strategy,

697
00:34:33,200 –> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: seeing how teams are maneuvering, and the good news for

698
00:34:36,239 –> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans is your Super Bowl champions. All right. There’s

699
00:34:38,520 –> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: so many teams trying to find their quarterback in this draft.

700
00:34:41,880 –> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: As Bryce Young, the guys, Will Levis the guy, as

701
00:34:44,600 –> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, CJ. Stroud, are they the guy? Are they’re

702
00:34:47,280 –> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: going to be our savior? The Chiefs have their guy.

703
00:34:49,800 –> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have a two time Super Bowl MVP. A

704
00:34:53,200 –> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: two time NFL MVP in the last four years, and

705
00:34:56,480 –> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: they have a guy who’s gonna lead this team hopefully

706
00:34:58,120 –> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: to many more championships. This ross is championship caliber and

707
00:35:01,880 –> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: it’s all about just getting a little bit better. And

708
00:35:04,080 –> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: this is the perfect kind of draft. If you’re a

709
00:35:06,239 –> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan, see all the drama and everything play out,

710
00:35:08,800 –> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: then let’s get a good player at thirty one. We’ll

711
00:35:11,000 –> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: close this way. We will give you our public service announcement.

712
00:35:13,840 –> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: Make sure you call before you dig right. You don’t

713
00:35:17,000 –> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: want to hit a power line. But I’m telling you also,

714
00:35:20,120 –> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: if you want to win your fantasy league, take a

715
00:35:21,920 –> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver. If you want to have parades, be better,

716
00:35:24,880 –> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: draft well in the trenches, touch down it down, and

717
00:35:31,200 –> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: the celebration begins in their head.

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