Are You the Hammer, or the Nail? | Chiefs vs. Titans Preview | Defending the Kingdom 11/3

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Speaker 1: Thank you Danage. On the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: to game, they can play. Hey, I don’t do what

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Speaker 1: touched down Kansas City. The Chiefs all right in the

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Speaker 1: thick of a baby. Hello, Chiefs Kingdom, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitch altis with you,

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs, along with the man would call

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Speaker 1: the Shop, the Barber, Shot the Spider Man, the Man

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Speaker 1: about Town. Ten year NFL veteran Sean Barber and senior

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Speaker 1: team reporter Matt McMullen. Coming off the bye week. It’s

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Speaker 1: the restart. I’ve been giving you guys these embracing analogies

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Speaker 1: all year. This is when you get restarted. On the

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Speaker 1: after the caution, you drop the green flag and everybody

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Speaker 1: just goes fast and furious again. That’s where we are.

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Speaker 1: This edition will be called are you the Hammer or

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Speaker 1: You the Nail? Because here comes the Tennessee Titans and

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Speaker 1: King Henry Derrick Henry himself. So just first of all,

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Speaker 1: I’m gonna start with you shot before we go around

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Speaker 1: the world. We’re gonna hit that. But just getting things

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Speaker 1: cranked up again, well I kind of feel like even

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Speaker 1: here on on on air, we got to kind of

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Speaker 1: knock some of this rust off you and that being

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Speaker 1: being in part of t DDK for a few weeks. UM, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got to knock some of my

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Speaker 1: rust off. But it’s been amazing a few couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks around town then bastards have been doing the phenomenal stuff. UM.

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Speaker 1: Definitely community driven, purpose driven, UM, faithfully spiritually, UM, just

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Speaker 1: finding some oneness and some purpose behind all we do.

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Speaker 1: And congratulations to yourself and I guess um Smiths Tammy

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Speaker 1: with all the work she’s done with the Sports Commission

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Speaker 1: here in Kansas City. We had a phenomenal night awarding

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Speaker 1: some of those UM officers. UM as we did a

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Speaker 1: Kansas City version of the Draft and you were on

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Speaker 1: the clock, had I’ll staying the time doing that. It

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Speaker 1: was awesome to have you and Dante Hall and Kathy

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Speaker 1: Nelson’s Sports Commission and honoring folks in law enforcement in

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Speaker 1: UH in the Chief Kingdom. All right, Matt, you had

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Speaker 1: a chance to take a breath. Uh. And now the

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Speaker 1: and going. Yeah, the bye is like a holiday in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Because we all love football. We obviously wanted

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Speaker 1: to be playing a football game, but we have to

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Speaker 1: work a lot of other holidays. So when you have

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Speaker 1: the bye week, like everyone leaves. It’s not just the team,

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Speaker 1: like all the business staff. Everyone goes on vacation or

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Speaker 1: just relaxes and does something else. I went to the

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Speaker 1: zoo on Thursday. My wife works at the zoo. She’s

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Speaker 1: our communications manager. So I went to the zoo on

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Speaker 1: Thursday with my mom. Got to walk around, just enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: And of course we traded for Cadarius Tony as soon

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Speaker 1: but nice to get a break. One thing I found

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Speaker 1: funny is Carlos Dunlap spoke at the podium earlier today

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Speaker 1: had the entire week off, and how nice that was

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Speaker 1: as a player to have a really tough training camp

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Speaker 1: and then to find out, hey, you have the entire

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Speaker 1: week off and to go away and just take care

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Speaker 1: of whatever you need to That players really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So I know the guys are excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: We’re excited to be back, and we’re going to attack

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. And that’s coach Read,

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Speaker 1: everything’s alculated. Yes, that’s twenty almost twenty five years. It’s

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Speaker 1: his twenty fourth year as a head coach. He knows

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Speaker 1: what works and doesn’t work, and to use that buy

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Speaker 1: very well stated, but that’s the way coach does it

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Speaker 1: and his legendary. He’s twenty and three after buys, twelve

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Speaker 1: which is really crazy in a second, I’ll just threw

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Speaker 1: to it later. But Coach Read, think about how awesome

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Speaker 1: a second, but first let’s go around the world. You

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Speaker 1: is insane. Let’s turn that around. Matt’s not sleeping because

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Speaker 1: You’re doing the same thing. Yeah. Um, all right, let’s

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Speaker 1: all right, buy a week. We’ve yeah, we’ve we’ve accumulated

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Speaker 1: next week, but let’s just do them all right now.

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Speaker 1: So we have Jamie and his son Max or from California.

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Speaker 1: My mom went to the Bills game alone. My dad

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Speaker 1: Obviously a tough loss, but they still had a wonderful time.

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Speaker 1: Burt in Baldwin Park, California, a listener, and Fawn Dulac, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: epicenter of DTK. Because all of our listeners are from Springfield,

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Speaker 1: that seems like nowadays. We’ve got Billy in Suffolk, Virginia,

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Speaker 1: We’ve heard from Gail before, Mitch and Fayette, Missouri, the

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Speaker 1: nine ers game and said it was well worth it.

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Speaker 1: It saw a great game. Remember our listener from Duncan, Oklahoma. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she says hello, Hello Faith and Proverbs twenty two six.

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Speaker 1: Timothy in Marysville, Kansas. And remember Red from Southeast Kansas. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: we finally get a town. We sure did. So he

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Speaker 1: Sewn Hill, the longtime NFL quarterback Sean Hill is from Parsons, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Played with like there’s thirty two teams. He played with

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Speaker 1: How cool is that? That’s awesome? Yeah, and then we

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Speaker 1: All right, here comes King Henry and the theme of

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Speaker 1: this Defending the Kingdom episode is hammer or nail? Are

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Speaker 1: you the hammer or you the nail? And we’re gonna

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Speaker 1: in future. So we’re gonna take things out of context

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Speaker 1: Defenses we create defenses to overload holes he’s going through.

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Speaker 1: combo block. It’s a tackle coming all the way down,

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Speaker 1: washing your D line down, and now the garden center

412
00:19:26,800 –> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 1: both pull out and you just don’t have enough bodies

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00:19:28,920 –> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: out there to account for all the blockers. And that

414
00:19:32,080 –> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: leaves a running back like King Henry Downhill no one

415
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Speaker 1: to even make him changes his path or direction. He’s

416
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Speaker 1: already into your secondary before somebody makes him change or

417
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Speaker 1: even slow down. And that’s not what you want. You

418
00:19:47,480 –> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 1: want to double team, you want to feel, you want

419
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Speaker 1: a two gap, you want to do all these things.

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Speaker 1: You want to slant the D line, you want to

421
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Speaker 1: do everything to throw off their blocking scheme, because when

422
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Speaker 1: you run the ball as much as Tennessee does, they

423
00:19:58,800 –> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 1: have to find more for ways of blocking the same

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Speaker 1: way the same play many different ways. So you’re gonna

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Speaker 1: see a power trap, You’re gonna see a veer, You’re

426
00:20:06,640 –> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna see a toss cracked toss. But the way they

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Speaker 1: block and who accounts for the corner to safety the

428
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Speaker 1: linebacker is gonna be three or four different ways, and

429
00:20:14,680 –> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: they can get it accomplished so many different ways because

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Speaker 1: all they want to do is make that defensive run

431
00:20:20,840 –> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: force guy hesitate, just hesitate a moment so they can

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Speaker 1: create that little vertical scene because he’s gonna exploit it,

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00:20:28,000 –> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: and when he exploits it, that leads to those big plays. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So let’s get to where we’ll close it out this

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Speaker 1: way and this edition of Defending the Kingdom or either

436
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Speaker 1: hammer or either nail. Yeah, because the Chief’s got some

437
00:20:39,160 –> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: hammer in them too. Now let’s say we’re gonna get

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Speaker 1: to that. I’m gonna ask you about it, but I’m

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Matt, about where I think this Tennessee

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Speaker 1: team is disrespected And sometimes we love offense so much

441
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Speaker 1: because of fantasy football, and the lights are so bright

442
00:20:52,040 –> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: on King Henry that we don’t see this defense. Jeffrey

443
00:20:56,080 –> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: Simmons is a player. Bud Dupree is a player. Kevin

444
00:21:00,400 –> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: Bayard is a player. Tennessee has this physical nature offensively,

445
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Speaker 1: but they actually have the character of their head coach,

446
00:21:07,920 –> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, and it carries through to their defense. And

447
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Speaker 1: I don’t think when you look at what their defense

448
00:21:12,560 –> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: has done eleven takeaways. Excuse me, we talked about that,

449
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Speaker 1: but this defense is a huge reach of their five

450
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Speaker 1: and two. So, yeah, your thoughts on this Tennessee defense

451
00:21:23,359 –> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs are gonna have to handle their business.

452
00:21:25,560 –> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: They’re really good in the trenches and Jeffrey Simmons is

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Speaker 1: playing on an injured ankle right now. He played thirty

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Speaker 1: eight snaps last week against the Texans, kind of on

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Speaker 1: a pitch count seven pressures though it’s tight and toughness

456
00:21:35,520 –> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: seven pressures in that game, I mean, on an injured ankle.

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Speaker 1: As a defensive lineman is really impressive. He has five

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks this year. Denico Autry has been

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Speaker 1: good this season two he has five sacks. It really

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Speaker 1: begins with their defensive front. They’re the best third down

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. They’re allowing conversions at just a

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Speaker 1: twenty five point six percent clip. Nobody is better. And

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Speaker 1: if you look at third and short, they’ve faced eight

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Speaker 1: third and ones this year, only allowed two first downs

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Speaker 1: on those, so stout in the trenches. You think on

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Speaker 1: a third and one, most teams are like feeling pretty

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Speaker 1: good about it because give it to your running back

468
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Speaker 1: and you’ll pick up the first down. The Titans take

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Speaker 1: that seriously, and they’re very good in the trenches. All

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Speaker 1: starts up front with them. They’re the number two rushing

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL as well. They’re allowing just eighty

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Speaker 1: nine point one rushing yards per game, and during their

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Speaker 1: five game winning streak, no team has topped one hundred

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Speaker 1: rushing yards against them. So they’re stout up front. All

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Speaker 1: begins up there. You can get them over the top

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Speaker 1: for the big play. They’ve allowed seventeen passes of twenty

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Speaker 1: five or more yards this year. It’s number six in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So you can do that against them, but

479
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Speaker 1: they’re very stout up front. That’s where it all begins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it’s underrated. They got other guys to Marcus Walker,

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Speaker 1: Mario Edwards. They’ve kind of drafted to their defense. They’ve

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Speaker 1: picked up free agents to their defense. But you got

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Speaker 1: to respect their defense. So let’s close this way. How

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Speaker 1: do the Chiefs be the hammer in this game? Because

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Speaker 1: people are thinking the hammer nail, how can the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: hammer ay Titan team? Which, let’s be honest there, let’s

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Speaker 1: back it up with Coach Reid being one and eight

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Speaker 1: against these guys in the regular season. Everybody else in

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Speaker 1: the league he only has three teams he’s got losing

490
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Speaker 1: records against. Uh, it’s the coach. I think the Bengals maybe,

491
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Speaker 1: but these guys he’s wanted eight against them. I’m like,

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Speaker 1: That’s why I texted Mad late at night. I’m like, Okay,

493
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Speaker 1: can’t be right. It’s can’t be right. But we know

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Speaker 1: coach can bring a hammer. Can so let’s talk about

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs being the hammer in this game. I think

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Speaker 1: the great thing is coming off a Bay week, UM,

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Speaker 1: having you know, over ten days to dis prepare for

498
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Speaker 1: what we’re gonna see. UM, letting the guys recharge their batteries,

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Speaker 1: no no aches and bruises everybody. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the team is going to be as close to one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent as far as injuries is. We can imagine

502
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Speaker 1: the team being at this point of the season, and

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Speaker 1: it’s gonna be a game where we’re gonna, I think

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Speaker 1: see Coach Andy Reid challenge our guys in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: We’re gonna attack them right at the belly of the beasts.

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Speaker 1: We’re gonna attack him right where the nose tackle whether

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Speaker 1: their strongest defensive line and the bud Duprez and the

508
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, we’re gonna attack them right where their strong

509
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Speaker 1: their strength lies. Because you know that every team, um,

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Speaker 1: there’s some defensive captains. And if you can take those

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Speaker 1: guys out of play, if you can take those guys

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Speaker 1: out of the game plan and you can really um

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00:24:04,920 –> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: do what you want with those guys, everybody else will fall.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about the hammer and the nail,

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Speaker 1: I see that we put the nail right on those

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Speaker 1: two guys, bud dupre and Jeffrey Simmons, and we’re just

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Speaker 1: gonna keep banging that head, that the head of that

518
00:24:16,400 –> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: nail until both of those guys say no, Mas, get

519
00:24:19,200 –> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: me out the game, and everybody else on the defense

520
00:24:21,440 –> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: will then fold. That’s the head of the defense, that’s

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Speaker 1: the that’s the beast. Um. Those are the two guys

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Speaker 1: that really I think bring that that arrogance that variable

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Speaker 1: has as a head coach. It’s a it’s a defensively,

524
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Speaker 1: it’s a it’s a different variation of what Belichick does.

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Speaker 1: They’re gonna double team Kelsey. They’re gonna they’re gonna they’re

526
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Speaker 1: gonna make him living a nightmare for him trying to

527
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Speaker 1: get off the line. They’re gonna dare us to throw

528
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Speaker 1: at the other places, play some trick coverages to try

529
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Speaker 1: to um get my homes to think it’s something that’s

530
00:24:48,920 –> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: not creative. I’ll say, all they want is one turnover.

531
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Speaker 1: They’re gonna run the ball, try to take time of possession,

532
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Speaker 1: control that the entire game. They just want one turnover

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Speaker 1: and they think that one turnover was going to lead

534
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Speaker 1: them to a victory. Matt, your thoughts how to the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs a hammer in this game? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I’m not sure if you guys are aware of this

537
00:25:06,080 –> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: or not, but coach read is quite good after the buye.

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00:25:08,119 –> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Not sure if you’ve heard that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

539
00:25:10,080 –> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, yeah, just a little bit. And he’s

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00:25:11,520 –> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: twenty and three after the bye. It’s like the most

541
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Speaker 1: well known stat in the NFL world, Right, we always

542
00:25:15,680 –> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: hear it around this time of year. Why is he

543
00:25:17,880 –> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: so good after the bye while he is extra time

544
00:25:19,680 –> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: to prepare? So I feel good about that. On one end,

545
00:25:21,760 –> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: he’s very good after the buye. The Chiefs need to

546
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Speaker 1: continue being exceptional in the red zone offensively. This is

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Speaker 1: something else we talked about this week because we get

548
00:25:29,240 –> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: excited about this kind of thing. The Chiefs are the

549
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Speaker 1: number one red zone offense in the NFL in terms

550
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Speaker 1: of converting red zone trips into touchdowns. It’s over seventy

551
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Speaker 1: five percent, and that’s despite having the most red zone

552
00:25:40,240 –> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: trips in the NFL with thirty. Like sometimes it can

553
00:25:42,800 –> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: be deceiving, the Titans actually fall into this category. They’re

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Speaker 1: number two, and red zone touchdown efficiency makes sense when

555
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Speaker 1: you have King Henry on the goal line, but they

556
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Speaker 1: have seventeen red zone trips. It’s near the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the league, so it’s deceeding, right. The Chiefs have the

558
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Speaker 1: most red zone trips and the highest red zone touchdown

559
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Speaker 1: efficiency percentage. So the Chiefs need to keep that up

560
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Speaker 1: and keep the offensive pressure on Tennessee, like we’ve been

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Speaker 1: talking about this entire time. Score as often as you

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Speaker 1: possibly can and make Mike Vrabel think we’ve got to

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Speaker 1: pass to keep up with this team. That’s what you

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00:26:11,119 –> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: have to do. If you let Tennessee stick around all game.

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Speaker 1: If it’s late in the fourth quarter and it’s we’re

566
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Speaker 1: in the mud. It’s seventeen seventeen. That’s Tennessee’s game. That’s

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Speaker 1: what they want this to play out. As the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: want to keep the offensive pressure on Tennessee throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: It seems obvious, but against this team especially, that is

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Speaker 1: just paramount. And I mentioned how good Tennessee is on

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Speaker 1: third down defensively. The Chiefs are the number one third

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Speaker 1: down offense in the NFL. So answer that bell over

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Speaker 1: and over again. Makes this Tennessee defense field defeated early

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Speaker 1: in the game and the Chiefs will be well on

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Speaker 1: their way. But it’s a great opportunity for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: once again after the buy to keep this momentum rolling.

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Speaker 1: They’re feeling really good after the bye week or going

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Speaker 1: into the bye week rather at five and two, let’s

579
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Speaker 1: keep that going here in the second half of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to your point, in the red zone, these the top

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Speaker 1: two red zone teams. You alluded to that the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have ten more red zone touchdowns. The Titans are thirteen

583
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Speaker 1: to seven team in the Chiefs are twenty three of thirty.

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Speaker 1: So as well close, I’ll tell you how the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: of the Hammer I think this is one of the

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00:27:06,720 –> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: tougher teams physically. Andy Reid has head in his ten

587
00:27:10,560 –> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: years here. Definitely, this is getting closer to what you

588
00:27:13,040 –> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: played with in Philadelphia with him. And people think because

589
00:27:15,760 –> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: they throw the ball and they get twenty yard passing

590
00:27:17,600 –> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: plays that they’re soft. They’re not. And you can talk

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00:27:21,280 –> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: about Dublin Kelsey. But that’s why Juju Smith Schuster on

592
00:27:24,320 –> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: the other side is so important, because Juju is coming

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00:27:27,359 –> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: after you and he’ll get a catching eight yard hook

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00:27:30,000 –> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: and run for forty yards, and the other tight ends

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00:27:33,000 –> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: are kind of catching help. The offensive line is a

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00:27:35,880 –> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: tougher offensive line pieced together now the second year together.

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00:27:41,359 –> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: And then I think defensively we already mentioned more athletic

598
00:27:43,880 –> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: tougher than mentioned the safeties. Justin Reid played against these

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Speaker 1: guys in the same division. He played King Henry for

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00:27:49,119 –> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: four years twice a year, so it’s not like, Okay,

601
00:27:51,840 –> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: it’s these guys, right. This is a better overall team

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00:27:55,400 –> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I think from a physical, mental, and emotional toughness standpoint.

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00:28:00,119 –> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: And I’ll add one thing, Mitch. If you look at

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Speaker 1: how different players are making big plays on this offense,

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00:28:04,840 –> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have thirty seven plays of twenty or more

606
00:28:07,720 –> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: yards this year, it’s tied with Buffalo for the most

607
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It’s not one dude with thirty seven

608
00:28:12,240 –> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: of those. Travis Kelsey has nine of them, Juju has

609
00:28:15,280 –> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: six of them, and MVS has six of them. It’s

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Speaker 1: all over the place. And if they want to double Kelsey,

611
00:28:20,440 –> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: if they want to put a bracket on him, Juju

612
00:28:22,920 –> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: or MVS has repeatedly showed that they could answer the bell.

613
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: So very exciting for the makeup of this team. And

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Speaker 1: nine total guys for the Chiefs. That’s number one in

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Speaker 1: the NFL with those big plays, nine total. They can

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Speaker 1: spread it around horizontal, vertical, and it’s the top two

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Speaker 1: punters in the NFL in this game. So throw that

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Speaker 1: in there as well. He’s Matt McMullen. Follow him. He’s awesome,

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Speaker 1: He’s matched at He’s sean barber, barber shop shop, malicious.

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Speaker 1: Follow him. I’m at Cholter’s voice to the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: we’ll close this way. Are you the hammer or you

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Speaker 1: the nail? Touch down scene scen