Chiefs Training Camp Battles – Safeties | Defending The Kingdom 7/16

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and 10 year NFL veteran and former Chiefs linebacker Shawn Barber team up for Defending The Kingdom. A unique approach to the inside look at everyone’s favorite topic – The Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: This is the Chief’s official podcast network. Take advantage on

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Speaker 1: make a play. Hi, Michael, I’ll touchdown Kansas City, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs all right in the thick of a baby. Well, hello, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome once again to defending the Kingdom. Mitch alters to

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Speaker 1: the Voice to the Chiefs along with my man you

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Speaker 1: all know is the Shop the Kingdom, the barber Shop

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Speaker 1: of the Kingdom, the Spider Man, ten year NFL veteran,

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Speaker 1: Sean Barber and Sean. First of all, it’s great to

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Speaker 1: see again, but I got to start this with the

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Speaker 1: exciting news that we’ve seen over the last week and

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Speaker 1: a half. First of all, Patrick Mahomes signing his deal,

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Speaker 1: basically cementing the next decade of him being the Chief’s

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Speaker 1: to get that done too, two high impact players to

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Speaker 1: the best in the lead in the case of the MVP,

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Speaker 1: the best in the league. Your reaction. You played in

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Speaker 1: this league, You know how different you’ve coached, You know

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Speaker 1: How excited were you over the last two weeks to

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Speaker 1: see Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes sim Anthony steals Man.

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Speaker 1: As a former player, I think the one thing you

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Speaker 1: were hoping is that we could find a way to

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Speaker 1: get everybody back. We wanted to get as many guys back.

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Speaker 1: We talked about running it back, going back to back,

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Speaker 1: familiar faces to know the defense and know the culture.

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Speaker 1: They know Kansas City, they know the expectation of how

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Speaker 1: we practice, how we go about our work, and so

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Speaker 1: as many of those individuals we can get back in

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Speaker 1: the building to make a run of it. You feel

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Speaker 1: very excited about that, but you knew it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough when you got guys that have played at

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Speaker 1: such a high level. You know, Chris Jones has been

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Speaker 1: arguably one of the top five defensive alignment in the

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Speaker 1: league over the last four or five seasons, and you

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Speaker 1: knew his price tag was gonna be twenty plus million

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Speaker 1: a year. But you also knew that you had the

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Speaker 1: MVP of the Super Bowl, one of the most elite

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Speaker 1: our quarterback, and trying to get both of those deals

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Speaker 1: done in the same offseason you got to tip your

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Speaker 1: hat to coach coach Andy Reid, to Red Beach, tell

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Speaker 1: us all the guys in the who handled the cap

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Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. That was just an amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing accomplishment with the amount of kaprom they had to

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Speaker 1: begin with, and how creative Pat his agent, Chris Jones,

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Speaker 1: his agent Andy and Brett Beach were collectively to get

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Speaker 1: both of those guys signed and actually still have room

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Speaker 1: to do things in the new COVID era because you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to keep some money just in case some

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Speaker 1: things happen during the season, and the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: organization football team is in a great position for the

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Speaker 1: next three or four seasons to win his Mini championship

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Speaker 1: as possible. Yeah, my reaction show is this one that

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Speaker 1: shows us a commitment. When you look at the guaranteed

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Speaker 1: like two hundred million bucks. I mean, so that’s that’s

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Speaker 1: that’s Clark Hunt and the ownership of this team saying

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Speaker 1: and we think they’re going to be productive for the

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Speaker 1: next several years. Two. You have touched on it. But

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Speaker 1: mentioned Brad Tillis. I’m gonna Chris Schas unbelievable. The guy is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he’s one of those I said, hey, how

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Speaker 1: of all thirty two teams in four different languages, and

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Speaker 1: I’m like, wow, dude, I just said, how you doing? Like,

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Speaker 1: fans fully appreciate. And then third was the maturity of Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: You take a little bit less to make the guys

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Russell Wilson did. When you maximize,

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the nineteen season. I have friends

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Speaker 1: in the organization, the Houston Texans organization that said, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: they’re saying, shop, the Chiefs got a lot more here

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Speaker 1: I didn’t see the same honey badger I saw when

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Speaker 1: coming of of of of ad Reid. I mean the playmaking, ability,

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Speaker 1: But turned the page. The last year here with the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: He went back to the honey badger, the way he

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Speaker 1: He was a jack of all trades and was the

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Speaker 1: most versatile player I would say defensively in the entire

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Speaker 1: to his versatility, and to me, the overall feeling of

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Speaker 1: say why this group is so good, they are versatile.

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Speaker 1: Let’s just look at some numbers. Pro football focused numbers

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Speaker 1: taken with a grain assault surgeon general’s warning. But his

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Speaker 1: coverage grade was eighty two excellent, top sixteen overall. But

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Speaker 1: here’s what’s interesting about the honey Badger. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 1: four picks. He also left four or five on the field.

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Speaker 1: Think of the Mexico City game. He’ll get those in

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Speaker 1: But three hundred and eighty eight snaps in the box

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Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew, he had five hundred and sixty one as

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Speaker 1: a slot corner. So there’s your point on his versatility. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his hands. That one still bugs him, you can you

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Speaker 1: can tell by his demeanor that one particularly still bugs him.

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Speaker 1: But there’s a number of plays where he considers there

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Speaker 1: a window to throw this ball, and then like like

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Speaker 1: a honey badger, like a like a trap being sprung,

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Speaker 1: he goes in the action and makes a play and

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Speaker 1: gets his hand on the ball. But the amount of

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Speaker 1: pass breakups I look at. I think about that play

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Speaker 1: The ball is never complete until he until he finishes

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Speaker 1: He’s always rose to the occasion with every opportunity he’s

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Speaker 1: He’ll do it when you least expect it, and hey,

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Speaker 1: throw in there now you’re now, you’re there, you’re with

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. I’m with you, it’s exciting. We’re getting close, sir.

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Speaker 1: I know the rules change every day. I’m trying to

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Speaker 1: coaching style, the roster, and when you take a super

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Speaker 1: it’s hard not to think that the expectation should not

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Speaker 1: all plays into a storybook next three or four years,

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Speaker 1: and I’m so glad to be a part of that.

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Speaker 1: I’m glad to be able to share these experiences and

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Speaker 1: these conversations with the voice of the Chiefs, Miss Holtess.

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Speaker 1: It just it makes an amazing ride to be a

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Speaker 1: part of. I love getting to go to the barbershop

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Speaker 1: every time when we do this, it’s exciting. Get ready,

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Speaker 1: we’re getting closer to camp and hopefully you know we’re

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Speaker 1: gonna be on time and ready to roll. But he’s

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Speaker 1: sean barber, ten year NFL veteran. Here we go shop

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Speaker 1: Macholda’s voice to chage together. We’ll run us back, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening to the Chief’s official podcast network. To

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