Defending The Kingdom 1/23: The Final Climb… I Can See the Summit from Here

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and 10 year NFL veteran and former Chiefs linebacker Shawn Barber team up for Defending The Kingdom. A unique approach to the inside look at everyone’s favorite topic – The Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: This is the Chief’s official podcast network, taking vantage on

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Speaker 1: the day when you get opportunity in the game, you

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Speaker 1: hello everyone, and welcome to this Super Bowl Let’s Get

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Speaker 1: Ready to Go edition of the Defending the Kingdom Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I’m Mitch Holter’s voice of the Chiefs along with the

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Speaker 1: man we call Shop. We’re Barber Shop, Sean Barber, also

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Speaker 1: known as the Spider Man. The Chiefs are going to

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, their first chance to go to

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Speaker 1: All year long, and we have discarded these discussions and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the way all of you have followed. We’ve

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Speaker 1: here we go to Miami as the Chiefs will play

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Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl fifty four title against a

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Speaker 1: very very good San Francisco forty hundred team. The podcast Network,

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Speaker 1: NAT’s gone viral. But I really thought, how do I

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Speaker 1: capture fifty years and four sentences? And it involved Lamar

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Speaker 1: Hunt because he changed you know everything about Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs kingdom. But to win the Lamar Hunt

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Speaker 1: and to be the team founded by Lamar Hunt, it

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Speaker 1: was a moment. I mean, he’s he’s he’s a Visionary’s

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Speaker 1: His legend is living on. If you walk through our

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Speaker 1: And that’s not by mistake. His legend, the tradition of

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Speaker 1: done for not only Kansas City but for athletics in general.

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Speaker 1: For our nation. Is it’s storied, it’s a it’s it’s

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Speaker 1: is made for sports in general to take leaps and bounds.

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Speaker 1: But when you listen to our podcasts, we have twenty

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Speaker 1: weeks from the season of building this thing, preparing, showing

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Speaker 1: so we talk about um, the AFC Championship, gaming, what

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Speaker 1: culmination of so much hard work from everybody in this

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Speaker 1: organization to continue to build this team. Believe in coach

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Speaker 1: Knowing with with PM fifteen, with showtime, mahomes at the

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Speaker 1: see the Summit from here, the final climb. Now people

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Speaker 1: a PEP rally and that was phenomenal. It was just

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Speaker 1: this sum for fifty years. Yeah. We talked about what

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Speaker 1: We talked about the how the Kancity Chiefs have learned

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Speaker 1: to your Kingdom Show on Monday Night, all those different names,

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Speaker 1: That’s the way they honor tradition. And then we inspire

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Speaker 1: but it deals with the line of scrimmage. Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: forty nine or defensive line. With five number one draft picks,

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Speaker 1: That allows his creativity and his vision to remain down

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Speaker 1: very athletic. They have two guys at a six seven,

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Speaker 1: their hands on batted balls and we take we just

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Speaker 1: down said they almost had fifty sacks on the season.

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Speaker 1: Now if you add another fifty quarterback, I mean that’s

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Speaker 1: based off of just their front four. And that’s not

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Speaker 1: But we have a chance to lay on these guys.

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Speaker 1: This is it, this is the game you’ve been waiting for.

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Speaker 1: And again Solomon Thomas, De Forrest Buckner, Eric Armstead all

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Speaker 1: first round picks on the San Francisco defensive front. We’ll

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Speaker 1: which we’re entitled. I can see the summit from here,

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Speaker 1: which is the final climb, and the Chiefs have a

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Speaker 1: And the second part really deals with Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: the match up here against Jimmy Garoppolo. Honestly, here’s a

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Speaker 1: he played that final game in twenty seventeen. But with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes at twenty four years old, honestly, barbershop, this

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Speaker 1: of those guys for Kansas City. I think of a

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Speaker 1: Mike Frazier and others. I wish I could introduce them

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Speaker 1: all to the Chiefs Kingdom sometime because they are the

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Speaker 1: guys that are coming up with the twenty players you

415
00:21:41,240 –> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: didn’t think of. San Francisco has done this or that,

416
00:21:43,640 –> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: if you know this, or what if they tried this.

417
00:21:45,920 –> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: I mean, there’s the infrastructure of this team, not just

418
00:21:49,160 –> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: the on field coaches, but the ancillary folks is outstanding.

419
00:21:54,960 –> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: It’s I think it’s the best in the NFL. Yeah,

420
00:21:56,960 –> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: the support group with our coaching staff. When you talk

421
00:21:59,160 –> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: about Shu, you talk about thinking of things that haven’t

422
00:22:02,080 –> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: happened and might happen. We all understand this league is

423
00:22:05,480 –> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: a copycat league, and what people see happen from an

424
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Speaker 1: offensive defensive conceptual standpoint a week before, or things you

425
00:22:13,640 –> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: struggle a week before those things are going to be

426
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Speaker 1: tested this you know, during the Super Bowl, they’re going

427
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Speaker 1: to see if you’ve corrected any of your mistakes you’ve

428
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Speaker 1: had during the season, whether it’s gap control, communication coverage,

429
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Speaker 1: even on special teams, things that came up during the

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Speaker 1: Titans games some of the others games. They’re going to

431
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Speaker 1: test those things that make sure that that you corrected

432
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Speaker 1: them and those things are still not a glaring mistake

433
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Speaker 1: for you. But you have to be so so committed

434
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Speaker 1: to the process being of greater value than the product.

435
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Speaker 1: When you understand what the process is, you can submit

436
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Speaker 1: yourself to it. You you dedicate yourself to the to

437
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Speaker 1: the process because you’re not worried about what that ending

438
00:22:53,640 –> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: scoreboard is going to be. Because you know that this

439
00:22:55,800 –> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: the way that the Kansas City Chiefs go about the

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Speaker 1: average work week, the amount of time those which to

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Speaker 1: spend studying and breaking down plays. When you get that

442
00:23:03,480 –> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: game plan, you are one hundred percent sure that game

443
00:23:06,880 –> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: plan is your way to victory. And if you play

444
00:23:10,880 –> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: and perform alignment assignment, dedicate yourself to a relentless pursuit

445
00:23:16,080 –> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: of the football on defense, execution on offense, making the catch,

446
00:23:20,640 –> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: protecting the football right I’m knowing the how to give

447
00:23:26,920 –> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: a little bit extra when it comes to go and

448
00:23:29,400 –> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: finishing the play, to make sure you’re around the ball

449
00:23:31,640 –> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: at all times, and then staying on the same page

450
00:23:35,960 –> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: as your quarterback. If he’s ready to get up on

451
00:23:38,400 –> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: the ball, were up on the ball. If he’s ready

452
00:23:39,800 –> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: to slow it down. He want to sugar hugger, we

453
00:23:41,720 –> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: sugar head. Whatever he’s doing, you gotta be in pace

454
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Speaker 1: with him. You can’t let the flashes and the bright

455
00:23:46,960 –> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: lights and the long halftime at all those things are ancillary.

456
00:23:51,400 –> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: All those things are just distractions from what is the

457
00:23:54,280 –> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: main thing. The main thing has been the main thing

458
00:23:56,359 –> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: since Andy Reeves got here, is to win a Super Bowl.

459
00:24:00,280 –> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: If you’re going to win, it went end today. I’ve

460
00:24:02,240 –> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: heard and I’ve heard people say it, but this guy’s

461
00:24:04,600 –> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: But to me, it is why the Chiefs have won consistently,

462
00:24:08,160 –> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: and how they’ve handled why they’ve handled flashpoints when things

463
00:24:11,200 –> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: that could have derailed the train every year since he’s

464
00:24:13,320 –> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: been or either something big or something small, or this

465
00:24:15,800 –> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: year with all of the adversity, We’ve talked about it,

466
00:24:17,560 –> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: and go back and listen to the other podcast. What

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Speaker 1: you described, I think is why Andy Reid is able

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Speaker 1: to handle the critical situations and keep the train on

469
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Speaker 1: the track because it’s a very steady approach and even

470
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Speaker 1: just his four pillars of eliminate distractions and create energy

471
00:24:32,400 –> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: and attack everything. Fear nothing is there’s just postulists that

472
00:24:37,760 –> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: run through the building that it’s a way of doing business.

473
00:24:40,720 –> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: So well put, now we go to the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: And to me, this is something that’s really interesting because

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00:24:45,960 –> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: many times in the Super Bowl with the AFC against

476
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Speaker 1: the NFC, you’re only playing one NFC division every four years,

477
00:24:53,160 –> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: So there’s times like I’m trying to I mean, we

478
00:24:55,480 –> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: haven’t seen like next year we’ll play the NFC South. Well,

479
00:25:00,160 –> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: we haven’t seen Carolina or Atlanta New Orleans since the

480
00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season, all right, that seems like fifty years ago.

481
00:25:09,560 –> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: But sometimes you’ll play them in the preseason. The Kansas

482
00:25:12,760 –> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: City Chiefs have only played the Green Bay Packers more

483
00:25:15,680 –> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: the last two years, with two preseason games in a

484
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Speaker 1: regular season game than the forty nine Ers. The third

485
00:25:21,359 –> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: preseason game this year narrow Head Stadium was against the

486
00:25:24,119 –> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and people got to the preseason man,

487
00:25:26,200 –> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: they don’t count. I can’t play fantasy football. Why I would.

488
00:25:28,480 –> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I pay attention to it, shop. I pay attention to

489
00:25:31,760 –> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: those games as much as I do the regular season

490
00:25:33,800 –> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: games because it gives me a time in a chance

491
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Speaker 1: to evaluate not only the opponent’s roster, what’s their framework,

492
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Speaker 1: what do they look like? Particularly that third preseason game.

493
00:25:42,840 –> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: I left Arrowheads Stadium on that August evening, respecting San

494
00:25:48,240 –> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: Francisco even more than I did in eighteen in the

495
00:25:51,160 –> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: game where Garoppolo got his knee torn up. This is

496
00:25:54,080 –> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: a good team. But I left the stadium that night

497
00:25:55,920 –> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: going if they get by the Seattle bugga boo, Right,

498
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: Seattle’s been there, bugaboo, they blew through the guys two

499
00:26:00,640 –> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: great games in the regular season, then they could be

500
00:26:04,000 –> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: a factor. Well factor here they are Chiefs forty nine ers.

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00:26:07,520 –> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: The fact that you’ve played an NFC team a couple

502
00:26:10,280 –> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: of times in the last two years, how much does

503
00:26:12,440 –> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: that help the Chiefs man. It’s good to be familiar

504
00:26:14,359 –> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: with your opponent, right you want to be you know,

505
00:26:15,960 –> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: you keep your friends close, but you keep your enemies

506
00:26:18,000 –> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: even closer. I want to I want to know your

507
00:26:19,720 –> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses. I want to know everything about you.

508
00:26:22,720 –> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Um and and I know you know you look at

509
00:26:24,560 –> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: the size chart that shows a guy being six seven

510
00:26:27,200 –> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: three hundred, But until you actually get to see him

511
00:26:29,680 –> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: on the field and you get to eye him up

512
00:26:31,880 –> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: and you get to know, like, is that a Is

513
00:26:33,680 –> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: that a Tarzan or Jane? Is that? Is that? Is

514
00:26:35,760 –> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: that A? Is that a guy who brains it and

515
00:26:37,520 –> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: he beats his chest but really don’t come off the ball?

516
00:26:40,160 –> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: Or is he a guy who is hump don’t say much?

517
00:26:42,840 –> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: But then I mean just a ball of energy and

518
00:26:45,080 –> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: you never stop. You don’t. You don’t know that from

519
00:26:47,240 –> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: a size and stand and stat chart, But when you’re

520
00:26:50,400 –> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: on the field with him, you get a that’s when

521
00:26:52,400 –> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: that that respect level builds and you said, you understand

522
00:26:55,000 –> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: who that guy is across the across the line of scrimmage.

523
00:26:58,000 –> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: And so we’ve seen the forty nine ers at that best,

524
00:27:00,160 –> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: seen a team um eager to change their environment, change

525
00:27:04,640 –> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: their culture. Um um. I’ve seen a quote around the

526
00:27:08,480 –> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: forty nine is faithfulness. It’s it’s it’s it’s there. It’s

527
00:27:12,040 –> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: their mantra, it’s what their archie kingdom, the faithful right.

528
00:27:16,520 –> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: They saying, Hey, everybody buy in this, be faithful, like

529
00:27:19,720 –> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: trust things you don’t see trusted. We all are on

530
00:27:23,000 –> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: the same page, and we’re all doing things for the

531
00:27:25,240 –> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: right reasons. Um, whether you see it or not, just

532
00:27:27,840 –> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: have have blind faith in it. Um that and that’s

533
00:27:31,680 –> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: been a great um way to change the coast. So

534
00:27:34,480 –> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: you gotta take your your hat off to John Lynch.

535
00:27:36,560 –> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: He’s been an amazing gym putting that roster together with

536
00:27:39,359 –> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: so many top picks. But when you when you when

537
00:27:42,040 –> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: you when it’s time to go play ball, and it’s

538
00:27:44,359 –> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: time to link arms, and and and and they say

539
00:27:47,960 –> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: fight out of a foxhole, and and and you know,

540
00:27:50,680 –> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: have each other’s sixes, have each other’s backs. This team

541
00:27:54,040 –> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: has had to battle back from ten points down, twenty

542
00:27:57,200 –> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: points down, twenty four points down. That she has had

543
00:28:01,200 –> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: I haven’t seen the forty nine is battle back through something.

544
00:28:05,040 –> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: I’ve seen them lose games during the season, but I

545
00:28:07,480 –> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: haven’t seen them deal with turmoil and have to link

546
00:28:11,080 –> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: arms and look at each other and realize they ain’t

547
00:28:14,040 –> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: no quit. Nobody’s quitting. They seem to be front running.

548
00:28:17,440 –> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: They see me when when things are going well, hey man,

549
00:28:19,680 –> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: they can oil those wheels and keep it going. But

550
00:28:22,320 –> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: if they don’t start out fast, and they got to

551
00:28:24,240 –> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: make adjustments and the defensive line ain’t getting the pressure

552
00:28:28,160 –> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: used to get in, and the back end is they

553
00:28:29,840 –> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: can’t cover for more than two and a half seconds.

554
00:28:32,119 –> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Linebackers are overrunning tackles and missing tackles and instead of

555
00:28:36,080 –> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: making those you know, like they did that Seattle game,

556
00:28:38,560 –> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: making that that stopped it kept them out of so

557
00:28:41,200 –> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: those big plays. Those linebackers have rose to the occasion

558
00:28:44,160 –> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: when they don’t make those big plays on all three

559
00:28:46,280 –> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: levels of their defense, what happens to that team? Do

560
00:28:49,800 –> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: they shake? Do they shiver? Did they saw looking at

561
00:28:52,160 –> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: each other waiting waiting for somebody to put on a

562
00:28:53,840 –> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: Superman cake? I know exactly what I’m gonna get from

563
00:28:56,640 –> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, no matter what the score of the game.

564
00:28:58,840 –> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: I know that the next players, the next play, I

565
00:29:01,040 –> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: know everybody’s focused on the next target. Everybody’s zero panic.

566
00:29:05,080 –> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Zero is zero panic. That’s how many teams in this

567
00:29:08,160 –> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: league could come from twenty four down in a divisional

568
00:29:10,600 –> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: playoff game. Man, it wasn’t some game in like late October.

569
00:29:14,480 –> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: That’s a twenty four down shop in a divisional playoff

570
00:29:17,880 –> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: game and zero panic. I’m not sure. Maybe the Saints,

571
00:29:22,080 –> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: but if they were, you know, when they were playing

572
00:29:23,440 –> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: at the high peak. I don’t know, but seriously, man,

573
00:29:26,240 –> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, how tough is that? And these guys, this

574
00:29:28,920 –> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs team can take on anybody anywhere in any time. Yeah,

575
00:29:31,560 –> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: I’m gona tell you what. It’s easy to say you

576
00:29:33,160 –> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: have character, and say you have faithfulness, and say you

577
00:29:35,720 –> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: have all these um these these great aspirations until it’s tested.

578
00:29:41,400 –> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: If to say you’re the faithful, it’s great until you

579
00:29:44,240 –> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: actually have to test that. That’s when. When when when

580
00:29:47,640 –> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: the cancer Chiefs up two three score, Let’s see if

581
00:29:50,440 –> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: they still are as faithful to their offensive game plan,

582
00:29:54,000 –> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: to their defensive game plan. Let’s see if everybody’s still

583
00:29:56,040 –> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: on the same page or do they start bickering and

584
00:29:59,080 –> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: you see you see, you see division amongst the ranks.

585
00:30:01,720 –> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: So you see guys trying to make a play and

586
00:30:04,760 –> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: jumping off side, trying to do too much. I think

587
00:30:08,520 –> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: that this team is a great team. This forty nine

588
00:30:11,160 –> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: is team is going to be a team to be

589
00:30:12,600 –> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: reckoned over the next few years. But I think the

590
00:30:15,600 –> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: weakness in that team is that it is not a

591
00:30:18,280 –> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: proven team. They haven’t gone, they don’t have the scar tissue,

592
00:30:22,360 –> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: they don’t have the scar tissue that the Chief’s got yep,

593
00:30:25,320 –> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Chief Seam has been unique. I can see the summit

594
00:30:29,120 –> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: from here. You got your pickaxe in your backpack. We’ve

595
00:30:31,240 –> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: climbed this shell together. Brother, we’ve been going up back

596
00:30:34,160 –> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: and if you take the lead for a while, I

597
00:30:35,680 –> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: take the league. Dragged me up with your rope. I’ll

598
00:30:38,200 –> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: drag you up with my rope. But I can see

599
00:30:39,800 –> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: the summit from here. Fifty year climb for some folks,

600
00:30:43,280 –> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: but for you and me, what a year it’s been.

601
00:30:44,880 –> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: But we can see the summit for here. It’s time

602
00:30:46,560 –> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: to do it. Man. Each each and every week, I

603
00:30:48,160 –> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: carried the same book with me called Killing Kryptonite by

604
00:30:50,360 –> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: John Bevern. It’s a great book. It talks about not

605
00:30:54,000 –> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: allowing you a good to keep you from being great,

606
00:30:56,640 –> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: and whether it’s spiritually, whether it’s physically, whether it’s emotionally.

607
00:30:59,680 –> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: This Kansas City Cheam Chiefs team was given all the

608
00:31:03,320 –> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: accolades in week one, and they’ve had to fight all

609
00:31:06,480 –> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: the compliments all year long and not accepted, continuing to

610
00:31:11,320 –> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: feed in, continuing to work, coming in every day, working

611
00:31:14,400 –> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: out the nuances, working out the details as they climb

612
00:31:17,640 –> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: that mountain. And now they can see the summit. They

613
00:31:20,240 –> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: actually can see what greatness is while they’re standing on

614
00:31:23,000 –> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: being good. I’m so excited for this team to go

615
00:31:25,240 –> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: down to Miami and proved to not only myself and

616
00:31:27,440 –> 00:31:29,160
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