‘Prepared in Position’ – NFL Draft Preview | Defending The Kingdom

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Speaker 1: It has been a hallmark of Kansas City Chiefs football

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Speaker 1: ever since Andy Reid drove into town. And that is

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Speaker 1: to be prepared for everything. So Green Bay, We’re getting closer,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, here we come, and it’s Pip again that

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Speaker 1: is prepared in position. And this Defending the Kingdom episode

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Speaker 1: will focus in as we get closer to the draft.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it’s brought to you by Ticketmaster. They are

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Speaker 1: your best friends even throughout the spring summer and getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the season for concerts, special events, and of

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Speaker 1: course the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Let’s keep it on an RPO at the five.

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Speaker 3: It’s a lead plot.

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Speaker 1: He goes into the ends on their side, touchdown Chusas City. Howeveryone,

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Speaker 1: I Mitch hold this Voice of the Chiefs along with

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Speaker 1: senior team reporter Matt McMullen, and here we are. One

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Speaker 1: of the great things. I like Matt a lot. But

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Speaker 1: one of the things I like about Matt.

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Speaker 2: Is his dog.

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Speaker 1: And you’ve we’ve talked about his dog, Pip before. In anytime,

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Speaker 1: I can find an acronym that will fit Pip the Dog.

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Speaker 1: I talk about the spirit of Pip a lot when

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Speaker 1: I speak publicly. A lot of you have heard that

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Speaker 1: in my presentations. But this Pip is prepared in position

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Speaker 1: Pip for the Kansas City Chiefs as they approach the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, and that’s

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Speaker 1: we’re going to focus on over the next several minutes.

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Speaker 1: But a shout out to Pip, the best dog on

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Speaker 1: the planet right now.

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Speaker 3: Pip the Dog.

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Speaker 4: One day we’ll do a full special on how Mitch

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Speaker 4: and I might be clinically insane with the amount of

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Speaker 4: superstition we place on my dog. I mean, it’s got

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Speaker 4: us to three straight Super Bowls and we’ve won two

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Speaker 4: of them. So I remember this. So Mitch created the

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Speaker 4: whole spirit of Pip, kind of talking about like we

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Speaker 4: need to play with the spirit of my crazy dog

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Speaker 4: years ago. And I so distinctly remember walking into my

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Speaker 4: office the morning of the AFC Championship game in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two against the Bengals. Big game, kind of a

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Speaker 4: crossroads moment in the history of the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, and we’re all, you know, ready to go,

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Speaker 4: but we’re stressed out.

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Speaker 3: It’s a big game.

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Speaker 4: And I walk in my office and Mitch has left

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Speaker 4: a sticky note that says sop spirit of Pip on

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Speaker 4: my computer. I have not moved that. It’s been like

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Speaker 4: three years now. It’s still right there on my computer.

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Speaker 4: Hasn’t fallen off. I don’t mess with it, and it’s

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Speaker 4: brought us some pretty good luck.

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Speaker 1: I talk about the spirit of Pip and the power

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Speaker 1: of the mangy Mutt, because Pip is that. If you

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Speaker 1: want to go win purple ribbon, watch the movie Dog Show,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the great movies of all time,

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Speaker 1: and want.

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Speaker 2: Some dog prantsing around.

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Speaker 1: Fine, if you want your best hunting dog, your best

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Speaker 1: farm dog, your best guard dog, go get a mangy

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Speaker 1: mut like Pip, who’s a beautiful dog by the way.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, but prepared an in position. That’s where the

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Speaker 1: chiefs are before we dive into I dive into that.

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Speaker 1: Let’s go around the world. Yep, let’s do it.

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Speaker 4: I got six for you today, for Brian Cook, who

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Speaker 4: might have an even bigger role here this year with

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Speaker 4: Justin Reid no longer in town.

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, in the twenty twenty two draft,

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I wish I could have

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Speaker 1: videoed it when we took Brian Cook. You basically, lou

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Speaker 1: you elevated above the table.

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Speaker 4: Well, it’s fun during the draft process because Mitch and

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Speaker 4: I cram for like two months like all these prospects,

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Speaker 4: trying to learn as much as we can, and we’ll

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Speaker 4: have so much fun, like texting each other saying did

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Speaker 4: you watch so and so?

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Speaker 3: Did you watch this guy or that guy?

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Speaker 4: And early in the draft process, I just watched Brian

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Speaker 4: Cook and I’m like, this guy’s really good. It could be,

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Speaker 4: you know, a great versatile safety who can hit and

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Speaker 4: tackle but also cover, and then we got him in

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Speaker 3: You know, it makes you feel.

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Speaker 4: Kind of good about yourself that when you’re watching these

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Speaker 4: hours of tape, maybe just maybe Brett Viach likes those

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Speaker 4: guys too, and we kind of know what we’re doing.

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Speaker 4: I don’t know, anyway, we pretend to, at least so

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Speaker 4: six today. I saw Dane working security over at the

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Speaker 4: Royals game on Thursday, met Dame before and the Royals

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Speaker 4: won that night. It was one of those crazy games

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Speaker 4: where it was one to one and in the eighth inning,

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Speaker 4: Bobby wit Like grounded out to the pitcher, but the

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Speaker 4: Made it the third and then Vinnie pas Quentino had

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Speaker 3: Royals won. It was great.

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Speaker 2: Was that the game Pip was in is a dog

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Speaker 2: in the park game.

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Speaker 4: This is a different game. I’ve been to a lot

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Speaker 4: of Royals games already this year. We went to Bark

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Speaker 4: in the Park against the Orioles a couple of Fridays ago.

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Speaker 4: We were there for four or five innings. Pitp will

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Speaker 4: do it for a little bit and then she’s like,

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Speaker 4: we gotta go. He was also like thirty degrees and raining,

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Speaker 4: but we went. It was fun and I think the

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Speaker 4: Royals won that one too. I was at Chipotle earlier

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Speaker 4: this week and ran into Bob in line. He worked

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Speaker 4: for the Chiefs for like thirty years beginning in the seventies.

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Speaker 4: Really small world. Told me some stories about when he

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Speaker 4: was working for the Chiefs. I think he was in accounting,

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Speaker 4: but really nice guy, and we just were passing the

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Speaker 4: time in the Chipotle line.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to you, Bob.

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Speaker 2: Bob Sterton was that his name?

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I can’t remember his last name, but maybe he

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Speaker 4: was here a long time.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of a Bob in accounting, and I

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Speaker 1: don’t know why Bob Sterton flew into my head.

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Speaker 4: It very well could be him. Yeah, but he loved

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Love this time here and yeah, still in

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Speaker 4: the area. Eric at Royal’s opening Day. That’s now three

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Speaker 4: Royals games that I’ve been to. I was in the

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Speaker 4: parking lot, just tail getting with some friends and Eric

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Speaker 4: introduced himself.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to you.

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Speaker 2: Eric.

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Speaker 4: Samantha is listening from Indiana. Chad is originally from Independence, Missouri,

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Speaker 4: graduated from William Christman High School.

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Speaker 2: The Bears, there we go.

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Speaker 3: It’s a good mascot.

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Speaker 2: That’s a good one.

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Speaker 4: He now lives in Florida. And then remember Becky from

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Speaker 4: South O’weita. You’re wondering what high school she went to.

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Speaker 4: She went to Shawnee Mission Northwest, home.

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Speaker 2: Of the they’re the Cougars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yep, two time state basketball champions. They’ve been really good.

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Speaker 1: And their fight song is they were University of Houston

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Speaker 1: fight song. Really they came into being Sawna Mission Northwest

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Speaker 1: late sixties early seventies, when the University of Houston was

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Speaker 1: kind of coming into its own football crazy putting up

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Speaker 1: numbers Warren McVeigh and then also basketball Alvin Hayes and

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Speaker 1: all that time. So what SHAWNA Mission did, It was like,

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Speaker 1: we’re going to be the Cougars. Let’s take the Houston

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Speaker 1: Cougars fight song. Okay, pretty So if you go to

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Speaker 1: Shunning Mission Northwest game, you’re going to hear the University

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Speaker 1: of Houston fight.

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Speaker 3: So tough one for the Houston Cougars a few days ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah, seeing Kelvin Sampson just seeing the life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flash in front of his eyes.

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Speaker 3: That’s tough.

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Speaker 2: He’s sixty nine, this is his shot, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that’s tough. Sports are tough.

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Speaker 2: They are tough.

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Speaker 3: Why winning is so awesome?

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Speaker 1: Yeap, believe it’s tough, and you but you go, if

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Speaker 1: you’re in it long enough, you win super Bowl rings,

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Speaker 1: win three of them like we have, very proud of it.

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Speaker 1: And then you also down thirty four to nothing in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to a really good Philadelphia team, which

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Speaker 1: is what we’re trying to rebound from as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for twenty twenty five. And I always talk to

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Speaker 1: publicly about how the Chiefs are awesome at handling flash points,

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Speaker 1: but they prepare and The first thing we’re going to

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Speaker 1: do here is talk about review really quickly since March

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Speaker 1: the twelfth and what has happened and where Brett Veach

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Speaker 1: has been intentional strategic with his staff. And this includes

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Speaker 1: salary cap staff, this includes everybody, the whole building, really,

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Speaker 1: but Brett’s been brilliant. So nine new players, four on offense,

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Speaker 1: five on DEFENSEKEP thirteen players. If you go back to

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Speaker 1: the previous episodes, that’s the green, red, black. Green you

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Speaker 1: gain players, red you lose players, and black you keep players.

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Speaker 1: So nine new players, four offense and five defense. Kept

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Speaker 1: thirteen five offense, six defense, two special teamers. In this

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Speaker 1: since March the twelfth, we have either signed or kept

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, wide receivers, running backs, tight ends and quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: interior linemen, edge players, linebackers, corners and safeties, and specialists.

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Speaker 1: To me, that feels like it covers everything. And what

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Speaker 1: we’ve done here is position ourselves not to be desperate

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Speaker 1: or predictable going into the twenty twenty five draft. The

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and Brettveach have done a masterful job every year

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Speaker 1: of that where the cards stay close to the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And a quick side note you and I had talked

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Speaker 4: before off camera about how has had to a short

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Speaker 4: episode because I had to go get my windows looked at.

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Speaker 4: The guy just texted me and said that later in

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Speaker 4: the day works, so we don’t have to truncate this

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Speaker 4: episode anymore. For those listening, you’re like, just get on

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Speaker 4: with it anyway. I’m with you at ten. We can’t

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 2: That’d be an ethics violation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would be if.

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Speaker 2: This guy tend windows are expensive.

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Speaker 4: So I’ve learned that during this process because we have

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Speaker 4: an older house and a lot of the windows are original,

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Speaker 4: like from like nineteen forty nine. And it’s not so

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Speaker 4: much the window. The window actually is holding up well,

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Speaker 4: it’s the framing of it that just looks bad. I

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Speaker 4: want to replace them, and I’ve learned over the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks that windows are very expensive. Getting a

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Speaker 4: third quote here today, but this guy is down to

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Speaker 4: meet me later today, so I don’t have to worry

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Speaker 4: about getting through the super quick. I am with you

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Speaker 4: about everything you said, because it is impossible to predict

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Speaker 4: who will be available at thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Overall and throughout the draft.

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Speaker 4: This is what we talk about all the time with

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Speaker 4: the parody of the NFL. It’s designed so teams like

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs cannot sustain success. Well, they found a way

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Speaker 4: to do that over the years, to find a way

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Speaker 4: to keep doing it. And one way to do that

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Speaker 4: is to not bank on a certain position or player

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Speaker 4: falling to you at thirty one. Overall, that is a

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Speaker 1: And we’ll get into how you you basically have insurance

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Speaker 3: Is the sixty six the LJ sneaed trade.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that pick working out the way that it did,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that’s why we’re calling it prepared in position.

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Speaker 1: That’s what Bret Veach and his staff have done. And

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Speaker 1: even the three picks in the seventh round sounds strangely familiar.

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Speaker 1: If it is, it’s the twenty twenty two draft. There

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Piicicko, Jalen Watson and Nazy Johnson.

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Speaker 2: And all three have.

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Speaker 1: Been to Super Bowls in their first three years and

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Speaker 1: one two of them. You do an awesome job. And

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Speaker 1: if follow Matt and his articles, he does on certain

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Speaker 2: This is your twenty twenty four article, Kevin Ross, Dave Zott.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned the three and twenty two Nick aligready, so

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Speaker 1: you don’t sleep on the seventh round at all. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have three picks in the seventh

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Speaker 1: who could come out of that group. Brett Veach and

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Speaker 1: his staff have shown they’ve done a remarkable job. Now

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Speaker 1: let’s take twenty one. The first three picks were quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: What’s always funny about the draft is there are generally

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Speaker 4: process and all the analysis and the mock drafts and

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Speaker 4: Depending on where you look, like sixty players are supposed

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Speaker 4: where you rely on your scouting staff. Every front office

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Speaker 4: And the results speak for themselves. Finding those guys in

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Speaker 4: I think it was where there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: right so you might be watching the draft saying, okay,

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Speaker 4: the first nineteen picks and where we were picked, it’s like, okay, great,

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Speaker 4: Right Well, no, because then immediately at pick number twenty,

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Speaker 4: If you really look at this roster and dig into it,

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Speaker 3: They don’t have to do that.

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Speaker 4: They can really let the board fall to them, which

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Speaker 4: the years have done a great job at that.

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Speaker 2: I’ve given the analogy of playing bridge and bidding no trump,

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Speaker 2: You can play them all. And that’s where yeah, Brett

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Speaker 1: With the staff in the straft twenty two, the run

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Speaker 1: But what it did was push Trent McDuffie in a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it gets back to what I was saying about

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Speaker 4: which obviously doesn’t make any sense. And that’s why on

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Speaker 4: show and we don’t know who we’re taken until we

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Speaker 4: an amazing selection. And getting George Carloftis at was it

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Speaker 4: huge Like, hey, the Chiefs have to take a corner

425
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Speaker 4: in the first round, but when Trent McDuffie’s there, it’s like,

426
00:18:45,000 –> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 4: we have to go get that guy. And now I

427
00:18:47,160 –> 00:18:50,400
Speaker 4: can’t really imagine this defense without Trip McDuffie. I assure

428
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Speaker 4: you we don’t win two Super Bowls in three years

429
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Speaker 4: without Trip McDuffie. We’ve talked about his play against Brock

430
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Speaker 4: Purty and that Nickel blitz where he batted down the

431
00:18:58,400 –> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 4: pass and gave my Homes an opportunity to tie and

432
00:19:01,800 –> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 4: later win the game. We don’t do any of that

433
00:19:04,160 –> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 4: without Trent McDuffie. And that was foresight by Brett Veach

434
00:19:07,320 –> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 4: to say, we don’t necessarily need a corner right now,

435
00:19:10,400 –> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 4: but we can go get a future all pro corner

436
00:19:12,680 –> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 4: if we want to. And they did that, and I

437
00:19:14,640 –> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 4: look forward to hopefully doing that again here in a

438
00:19:16,520 –> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 4: couple weeks.

439
00:19:17,280 –> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 1: And again, if you heads your bet that way, you

440
00:19:20,960 –> 00:19:23,439
Speaker 1: can move up or down, and we’ve seen Brettveach do that.

441
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Speaker 1: So again, the Chiefs are unpredictable in the draft, but

442
00:19:27,760 –> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: it’s a really big deal to be able to react

443
00:19:30,600 –> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: to the run, because there are some teams that after

444
00:19:33,600 –> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: the run happens and you’ve got precious minutes to make

445
00:19:36,800 –> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 1: the decision, they don’t handle it well or they’re exposed

446
00:19:40,480 –> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 1: at a certain spot, and sometimes the run can be surprising.

447
00:19:44,240 –> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 1: We’ve seen it that it becomes shocking. But you’re like, Okay,

448
00:19:48,440 –> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: the run came at this position. Here’s how we’ll adjust

449
00:19:51,520 –> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 1: and either trade down, trade up to get McDuffie, or

450
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Speaker 1: pick this certain spot. And honestly, the Chiefs have done

451
00:19:58,560 –> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: this year after year after year, especially since COVID. When

452
00:20:02,720 –> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: you see how this roster has been put together, the

453
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Speaker 1: picking at thirty one and sixty three and sixty six

454
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Speaker 1: because I’m going to throw those three together, leave ninety

455
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Speaker 1: five out of it. But again we said this popcorn

456
00:20:15,040 –> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: popper that once you get past twenty in most drafts, well,

457
00:20:19,359 –> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: there’s not much difference, right, especially this year. I think, hey,

458
00:20:23,280 –> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 1: this year for sure. Now, the one thing of a

459
00:20:26,560 –> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: first round pick is the fifth year option. We mentioned

460
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Speaker 1: that you get the fifth year option. Xavier Worthy, the

461
00:20:31,800 –> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs will have a fifth year option with him where

462
00:20:34,960 –> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: he wouldn’t ter necessarily enter free agency if they exercise

463
00:20:38,040 –> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: that ouction to keep him for an additional year. So

464
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Speaker 1: that’s an advantage for a team in the first round.

465
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Speaker 1: Other than that, you can do some real damage here.

466
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Speaker 1: But what you want to do, in my opinion, and

467
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Speaker 1: this has been proven in thirty one, sixty three or

468
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Speaker 1: sixty six, you want a Day one starter. Yeah, who

469
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Speaker 1: had that Day one starter then eventually becomes a Pro Bowler.

470
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Speaker 2: That’s your a grade here.

471
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Speaker 1: And if you’re drafting top ten, you want to Pro

472
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer eventually. But if you’re sitting at

473
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Speaker 1: thirty one, sixty three or sixty six focusing on getting

474
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Speaker 1: a starter and one who would eventually become a Pro

475
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Speaker 1: Bowl or All Pro player, and I think maybe you

476
00:21:11,600 –> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: and our an agreement here. We’re defensive line, especially the

477
00:21:14,840 –> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: interior defensive line. There seems to be more names there.

478
00:21:19,560 –> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: And I’m gonna give you the surgeon General’s warning here.

479
00:21:22,720 –> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: We did not talk to bred Beach. In fact, we’re

480
00:21:25,480 –> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: in peril here.

481
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Speaker 3: These are our opinions. These are our opinions, right, Mitch

482
00:21:28,920 –> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: and Matt.

483
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Speaker 1: This is not the Chiefs and the worst thing anyway,

484
00:21:34,040 –> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: this is a surgeon.

485
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Speaker 2: Don’t say this is what Veach is thinking, because no, it’s.

486
00:21:37,920 –> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 4: Just us and that happens sometimes because I do like

487
00:21:40,200 –> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: videos on different position groups and I’ll just talk about

488
00:21:42,600 –> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 4: certain players that I like, and sometimes people will comment

489
00:21:45,480 –> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 4: things like, ooh, this is a smoke screen. It’s like, no,

490
00:21:47,800 –> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 4: this is just Matt. This is just Matt talking. This

491
00:21:49,920 –> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 4: is nobody else talking. So yeah, everything that we’re gonna

492
00:21:52,440 –> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 4: say here is just us. Okay, So just us.

493
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Speaker 1: And looking at Day one starters in the defensive line,

494
00:21:58,560 –> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: which to me would be a home run out of

495
00:22:01,240 –> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: the park. Bobby Wood Junior gaining two bags on a

496
00:22:04,520 –> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: one base air would be finding a inside defensive replacement

497
00:22:10,160 –> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: or not a replacement, A great compliment, especially to Chris Jones.

498
00:22:13,760 –> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: Now what bred Beach has done again. That defensive line rotation,

499
00:22:17,359 –> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: which to me, and I’ve talked to Spags about this

500
00:22:19,520 –> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: a lot, was a big reason the Chiefs got to

501
00:22:21,760 –> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, went fifteen to two. The Chiefs were rare.

502
00:22:24,640 –> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: They had an eight player rotation on the defensive front.

503
00:22:27,359 –> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: We talked about guys going inside and outside, but to

504
00:22:30,000 –> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: be able to move guys in and out and not

505
00:22:33,680 –> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: really miss a beat.

506
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Speaker 2: So you’ve got to replace Turk Wharton.

507
00:22:36,359 –> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: You lose Derek Noddy, but you get Mike panel back

508
00:22:39,160 –> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: you talked about Tillery coming in. But if you can

509
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Speaker 1: get someone in the thirty one, sixty three or sixty

510
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Speaker 1: six that becomes a Day one starter who can be

511
00:22:47,160 –> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: right there with Chris Jones and the rest and regain

512
00:22:49,800 –> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: that eight man rotation. Now you’re really poised to take

513
00:22:53,600 –> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: a run at the whole enchilade again in twenty twenty five.

514
00:22:56,440 –> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: A couple guys come to mind here. I’ll let you

515
00:22:58,280 –> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: start and see what you say. Interior defensive line. If

516
00:23:01,920 –> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: it was you to pick, I’ll let you have two

517
00:23:04,960 –> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: and I’ll pick two.

518
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Speaker 4: I think it’s funny too, because Chris Jones was picked

519
00:23:09,840 –> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: in that range that you’re talking about. He was the

520
00:23:11,600 –> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: first pick of the second round, right he was, Yeah,

521
00:23:13,800 –> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: sure was way back in twenty sixteen.

522
00:23:15,760 –> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

523
00:23:16,080 –> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you can find all the good players there.

524
00:23:18,320 –> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 4: And I think, just like you said, the depth and

525
00:23:21,080 –> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: the strength of this draft, particularly in the context of

526
00:23:24,520 –> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, is a defensive line and maybe particularly defensive tackle.

527
00:23:29,160 –> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 4: A lot of good edge players too that I like

528
00:23:30,840 –> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 4: a lot, but defensive tackle is really intriguing, and we’re

529
00:23:33,720 –> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 4: gonna have an opportunity, I think, to add to our

530
00:23:35,400 –> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: defensive line in this draft. But quick caveat talking about

531
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Speaker 4: like the runs and stuff. It’s possible a run could

532
00:23:42,160 –> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 4: happen like a twenty one overall where all the players

533
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Speaker 4: that we talk about go Infortunately, again we keep like

534
00:23:48,080 –> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: hitting home this point. But the Chiefs are in a

535
00:23:49,760 –> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 4: position where if that happened, I’d be like, Okay, Like,

536
00:23:52,640 –> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: there’s plenty of other spots to go so anyway.

537
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Speaker 2: And honestly, I predict that’s what the run will be.

538
00:23:57,240 –> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: Could be.

539
00:23:57,680 –> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the run will be after pick seven

540
00:24:00,080 –> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: teen or eighteen on the defensive line and they just

541
00:24:02,600 –> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: start flying off the board.

542
00:24:03,920 –> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: So I’m picking one guy or two guys? You get

543
00:24:05,800 –> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: two too, Okay.

544
00:24:06,840 –> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 4: Well, Derek Harmon’s one guy that I like a lot

545
00:24:08,960 –> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: that I’ve watched quite a bit from Oregon. Just one

546
00:24:11,920 –> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: year at Oregon, he was a Michigan State transfer but

547
00:24:14,440 –> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 4: had just an incredible season for them. I think he

548
00:24:16,960 –> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 4: had like fifty five pressures. I think that led all

549
00:24:20,200 –> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: interior defensive lineman and the FBS last year. This is

550
00:24:23,200 –> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: a really disruptive player who’s also really good against the run.

551
00:24:26,440 –> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: So Derek Harmon’s guy to know and then a guy

552
00:24:28,840 –> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: that I know you like a lot as well as

553
00:24:30,119 –> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 4: Walter Nolan from Ole, miss just a game wrecker at

554
00:24:35,280 –> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 4: interior defensive tackle in All American last year. A great

555
00:24:38,880 –> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: pass rusher, great against the run, just a really really

556
00:24:42,200 –> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 4: good player. So I’m not breaking any news here with

557
00:24:46,160 –> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: those guys. Those are two of the top defensive tackles

558
00:24:48,119 –> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: in this draft. But Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan are

559
00:24:50,359 –> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 4: certainly two names to know.

560
00:24:51,680 –> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: I’d be thrilled if the Chiefs get either one of

561
00:24:54,119 –> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: those guys, because I think they can be Day one starter.

562
00:24:56,920 –> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Just as we explained.

563
00:24:58,280 –> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: Next to Chris Jones, one of those guys.

564
00:25:00,680 –> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: Come on, let’s go with the edge guys we already have, yeah, right,

565
00:25:04,400 –> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: because Charles Amna who’s resigned, and you have an emerging

566
00:25:08,359 –> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: or improving FAU out there, still have Carlo Loftus and

567
00:25:11,040 –> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: Mike Danna. They’re all here, folks. That’s what I’m telling

568
00:25:13,800 –> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: you my two I would pick. And again, when you

569
00:25:16,840 –> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: look at these defensive linemen, if you’re a draft nerd,

570
00:25:20,040 –> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: you really have to look at scheme as well, because

571
00:25:22,800 –> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: in this group of players that fit this inside defensive

572
00:25:26,400 –> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: tech three tech, zero tech, one tech kind of five

573
00:25:30,600 –> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: tech is what is spags a scheme? And how do

574
00:25:34,760 –> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: they being versatile and being a two gap guy. Right,

575
00:25:38,520 –> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: So think of a I don’t want to say, a

576
00:25:41,960 –> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: better version of Turk Wharton because he was really good.

577
00:25:44,440 –> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: But so I’m going scheme specific to what spags would go.

578
00:25:50,400 –> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: He’d knuckle on the table. So Tyler Williams of Ohio

579
00:25:53,840 –> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: State’s a two gap guy that has shown some explosiveness

580
00:25:57,880 –> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: as well. All right, and I’m only going to pick two,

581
00:26:00,640 –> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: but I’m gonna throw and third Darius Alexander. But the

582
00:26:03,680 –> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: guy I like, and you know I like him because

583
00:26:05,480 –> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: he was one of those I sent to you of

584
00:26:06,880 –> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: going I can’t stop watching this guy. I went back

585
00:26:10,080 –> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: and watched him because I saw a young Chris Jones

586
00:26:13,800 –> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: and it’s Alfred Collins of Texas. Here’s where I’m at

587
00:26:17,520 –> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: on every position in this draft is wingspan. Maybe I’m

588
00:26:21,400 –> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: affected by Super Bowl fifty nine.

589
00:26:23,240 –> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Josh Schwat’s wingspan dominated.

590
00:26:28,200 –> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Okay, wingspan, it’s the most underrated metric in all of sports,

591
00:26:31,640 –> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: all of it. And when I see Collins, I see

592
00:26:35,840 –> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: a guy that’s willing to play two gap. Seven passes deflected,

593
00:26:40,320 –> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: seven blocked kicks, plays, two gap, can still rush the passer.

594
00:26:45,480 –> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I think of him fingertip to fingertip with Charles and

595
00:26:48,040 –> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Menehu and Chris Jones all with over seven foot wingspins.

596
00:26:52,640 –> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: So now I cover twenty three feet.

597
00:26:56,840 –> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: Of the field on the width.

598
00:26:58,480 –> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: That’s crazy, which I gotta be careful you don’t fall

599
00:27:02,119 –> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: in love with any one guy because of the run

600
00:27:03,920 –> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: that can happen in any one of these guys that

601
00:27:05,840 –> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: we mentioned. I’ll be knuckling on the table for them.

602
00:27:08,920 –> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: But that’s an example.

603
00:27:10,760 –> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 4: And one thing that kind of is the common denominator

604
00:27:13,480 –> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 4: I think with all these players is their motor.

605
00:27:16,119 –> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: I love with Collins.

606
00:27:17,200 –> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: He’s like three hundred and thirty pounds, but there is

607
00:27:20,320 –> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: tape of him on screens turning around and chasing down

608
00:27:23,920 –> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: the running back at three hundred and thirty pounds, Like

609
00:27:26,320 –> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: you don’t always see that, particularly for guys that know

610
00:27:29,320 –> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: they’re going to be drafted pretty early. They might be like, ah,

611
00:27:32,560 –> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 4: you know that’s by me, that’s not my area. I’m

612
00:27:35,520 –> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: not rushing the passer anymore. It doesn’t matter. Collins was

613
00:27:38,520 –> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 4: like a gamer, like he wanted to win, and those

614
00:27:40,960 –> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: are the players that I want here. And I really

615
00:27:43,000 –> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: noticed that with Kyleik Williams as well and Darius Alexander

616
00:27:46,520 –> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: a great run defender. A lot of times with these

617
00:27:48,880 –> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: pass rushers, even at interior defensive tackle, they don’t always

618
00:27:52,440 –> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: want to play the run. They just want to rush

619
00:27:54,080 –> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: the passer. Darius Alexander loves rushing the passer and rushing

620
00:27:58,480 –> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: and tackling the running back and play the run. So

621
00:28:01,480 –> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: those are important things that I think we’ve seen throughout

622
00:28:03,600 –> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: this process. And those are just a few names to know.

623
00:28:06,080 –> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: There’s going to be a lot of guys at defensive

624
00:28:07,600 –> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: tackle who are intriguing. And again, I think it’s where

625
00:28:10,800 –> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: the depth of this class is.

626
00:28:12,080 –> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Where does Toledo get these guys Quinyan Mitchell, no idea

627
00:28:16,359 –> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: if I’ll go to Toledo and find guys like that

628
00:28:18,200 –> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: every year, because you know how much I love Quinyan Mitchell.

629
00:28:20,080 –> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: I had to watch them in the Super Bowl.

630
00:28:22,320 –> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 3: But any kareem hunt, you know, and where do they

631
00:28:24,960 –> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: find these guys?

632
00:28:25,600 –> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: I don’t know, found out to Toledo Rockets. Uh huh uh.

633
00:28:29,080 –> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: We’ll close out this way. But let’s just look at

634
00:28:31,040 –> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: the let’s do let’s do a couple of offensive line. Yeah,

635
00:28:35,320 –> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I’ll let you pick a couple and maybe I’ll throw

636
00:28:37,240 –> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: one in there.

637
00:28:38,080 –> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: Well, Josh Simmons is interesting. Now.

638
00:28:39,880 –> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: The thing with Simmons is he has thirty three inch arms,

639
00:28:42,400 –> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: So speaking of the wingspan thing, a lot of times

640
00:28:45,480 –> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: you like to see your tackles have like thirty five

641
00:28:47,360 –> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: or thirty four inch arms, But Simmons is at thirty three,

642
00:28:50,320 –> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: so I think that’s good enough. And everything else in

643
00:28:52,560 –> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: his game is really good in my opinion. And he

644
00:28:55,680 –> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 4: suffered a knee injury in October, and really anywhere you

645
00:28:59,080 –> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: look any draft expert, they would agree that if he

646
00:29:01,640 –> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: had not suffered that knee injury, he probably would have

647
00:29:04,160 –> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: been like a top fifteen pick. Most likely, the knee

648
00:29:07,080 –> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: injury is probably going to knock him down a little bit.

649
00:29:09,400 –> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: And that’s one of those situations for the Chiefs where

650
00:29:13,000 –> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: if you could get a value selection like that of

651
00:29:15,480 –> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: Josh Simmons, who I think allowed one quarterback Hurry, not

652
00:29:19,200 –> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: even a sack all year before he got injured in October,

653
00:29:22,000 –> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: and was great last year as well in twenty twenty three,

654
00:29:25,280 –> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: if you can get a player of that caliber who’s

655
00:29:26,960 –> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: a top fifteen player at thirty one overall because he

656
00:29:29,880 –> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: had an injury, as long as you feel good about

657
00:29:31,480 –> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: the medicals, that could be a pretty good situation to

658
00:29:34,680 –> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: be in, so Simmons is interesting. Then also Josh Connery

659
00:29:37,720 –> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: junior out of Oregon is interesting as well. There’s a

660
00:29:39,920 –> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: lot of experience playing left tackle, high end left tackle

661
00:29:43,920 –> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: against very good teams. And I like how he kind

662
00:29:46,720 –> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: of his mental resolve because I talked to Eric ed Hoolm,

663
00:29:50,360 –> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: who does great draft stuff for NFL dot Com, and

664
00:29:52,800 –> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: he talked about how Connory got knocked on his back

665
00:29:56,600 –> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: basically by Mike Green during the Senior Bowl. Mike Green’s

666
00:29:59,120 –> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: one of the top pass rush prospects in the draft

667
00:30:01,000 –> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: this year, and for a lot of players, they’d be

668
00:30:03,320 –> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: really down on themselves. They’d just be like, oh man,

669
00:30:05,760 –> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: this is my chance and I’m ruining it. Connorly didn’t

670
00:30:08,760 –> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: do that. He got right back up and had a

671
00:30:10,240 –> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: great Senior Bowl after that. So I’m looking for those

672
00:30:13,280 –> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: kind of things when you’re picking up thirty one. Overall,

673
00:30:15,360 –> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: these guys are all talented. It’s a matter of what

674
00:30:17,680 –> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: do you have going on upstairs? What’s your mental resolve, Like,

675
00:30:20,400 –> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: how do you handle failure and turn that into success?

676
00:30:22,920 –> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: And he showed me that during the Senior Bowl.

677
00:30:25,360 –> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: What I liked about his video was the fact that

678
00:30:28,720 –> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: I watched him with Bo Nix, a right handed quarterback,

679
00:30:32,160 –> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: and then to get Dylan Gabriel, a left handed quarterback.

680
00:30:35,280 –> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: But to watch his versatility connor Ly and his ability

681
00:30:39,680 –> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: to move as well. We talked about the defensive guys,

682
00:30:42,560 –> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Collins being able to move on a screen, his movement

683
00:30:45,480 –> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: whether he’s zone blocking or man blocking or screen and

684
00:30:48,960 –> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: to get to the second level. It kind of jumps

685
00:30:51,920 –> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: out there. But the fact that he played with a

686
00:30:53,400 –> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: right handed quarterback and a left handed quarterback and basically

687
00:30:55,920 –> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: had to learn two languages, to me was impressive. Ursay Arionta,

688
00:31:03,200 –> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: who is a Minnesota Gopher, but he’s a Kansas City.

689
00:31:06,280 –> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: Kid, Ruskin High School Ruskin.

690
00:31:07,880 –> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: Baby, let’s go. I love it.

691
00:31:10,240 –> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: And now he’s more of a road grader type. Yeah,

692
00:31:12,800 –> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: he’s a run run blocker and maybe more of a

693
00:31:17,840 –> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: right tackle than a left tackle. But there’s something he’s

694
00:31:21,400 –> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: going to help somebody in the National Football League for

695
00:31:23,440 –> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: a while. I love it. But you know, here, here’s

696
00:31:25,920 –> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: my Alfred Collins of offense. Yeah, and you know where

697
00:31:29,480 –> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I’m going, And it’s Charles Grant of William and Murray. Yeah,

698
00:31:33,360 –> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and you’re going, well, wait a minute.

699
00:31:35,080 –> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: He played at William and Murray. It’s FCS that’s not

700
00:31:37,720 –> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: even the best FCS league, and you’re not going to

701
00:31:40,720 –> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: get in because I don’t know. Sean McDermott went to

702
00:31:44,200 –> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: waym and Murray and you know, uh so and Mike

703
00:31:49,200 –> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: Tomlin went to William and Murray.

704
00:31:50,600 –> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: I love his video.

705
00:31:52,680 –> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well in the wingspan right wing span.

706
00:31:55,080 –> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: And everything’s wingspan with me right now. Don’t even talk

707
00:31:57,840 –> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: about anybody unless we got thirty four thirty Finich wake

708
00:32:00,720 –> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: span because I’m ace Venturia. Olsa is out all over

709
00:32:04,280 –> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: my walls because of Super Bowl fifty nine. Yeah, but

710
00:32:08,200 –> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: that’s where I’m at. But again, Charles Grant’s going to

711
00:32:11,200 –> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: be a really good player in the NFL. He moves

712
00:32:14,120 –> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: and he’s Tray Smith playing left tackle.

713
00:32:17,480 –> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: And the beauty of that is what the Chiefs have

714
00:32:20,440 –> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: done in free agency once again, to circle back on

715
00:32:22,720 –> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: this point is by going out and getting Jayalen Moore,

716
00:32:25,360 –> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: a guy that you think can compete for your starting

717
00:32:27,360 –> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: job at left tackle. If the Chiefs take a tackle

718
00:32:30,280 –> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: in this draft, they’re not being asked, I guess unless

719
00:32:33,360 –> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: they earn it. They’re not being asked to go in

720
00:32:35,400 –> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: there in Week one and start at left tackle. That’s

721
00:32:38,200 –> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: a big ask, right, It’s difficult to do that. And

722
00:32:41,080 –> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: if you take a guy like Charles Grant, maybe on

723
00:32:43,440 –> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: day two or early on day three, wherever he goes,

724
00:32:47,240 –> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: he can have the opportunity to grow and to learn

725
00:32:49,760 –> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: and to compete, but he doesn’t necessarily have to be

726
00:32:52,400 –> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: your day one starter. That’s a luxury that a lot

727
00:32:54,520 –> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: of teams don’t have. And frankly, the Chiefs haven’t always

728
00:32:56,520 –> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: had that luxury, So I’m with you on that.

729
00:32:58,880 –> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: And man, even like Rashaun Slater, who I watched him

730
00:33:02,640 –> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: play at Northwestern, he’s good for the Chargers. He has

731
00:33:05,640 –> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: even had his struggles because the edge rushers are so

732
00:33:08,520 –> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: good in this.

733
00:33:09,000 –> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: League, so good it’s so hard. I can see so

734
00:33:10,960 –> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: many of them.

735
00:33:11,600 –> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: The best athlete and put him at left tackle, and

736
00:33:14,080 –> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: it’s just so hard for a rookie. Now it makes

737
00:33:16,600 –> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: you kind of appreciate more what Eric Fisher did, yeah,

738
00:33:19,400 –> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: way back in twenty thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and on

739
00:33:23,040 –> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: is the fact that we threw him right into it.

740
00:33:24,840 –> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: But it was a struggle for him too. He’s playing

741
00:33:26,720 –> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: right tackle and didn’t have to. I’m just telling you,

742
00:33:29,360 –> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: you can take the best left tackle in any class,

743
00:33:31,880 –> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and it’s going to be a problem for them in

744
00:33:33,840 –> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: their first year, maybe even their second year.

745
00:33:36,080 –> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: The edge rushers are a great example of how humans

746
00:33:39,000 –> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: have like evolved over time because these guys are all

747
00:33:43,000 –> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: like six’. FIVE a lot of them are lighter, now

748
00:33:46,360 –> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: but they’re between like two forty and two sixty and

749
00:33:48,520 –> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: they can run like a four to four and they

750
00:33:50,600 –> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: have like long.

751
00:33:51,320 –> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 3: Arms like what are you supposed to?

752
00:33:52,480 –> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: Do it’s really, hard and that’s why not only do

753
00:33:54,880 –> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: you have to have great physical, traits but also you

754
00:33:57,040 –> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: have to have mental resolve playing in that position because

755
00:34:00,080 –> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: they’re going to get beat and it’s frustrating and it’s,

756
00:34:02,240 –> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: difficult but you have to go right back out there

757
00:34:04,040 –> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: the very next snap and do your. Job and that’s

758
00:34:07,120 –> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: hopefully what we’re going to find here in this draft

759
00:34:09,320 –> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: is some players not just offensive tackle all over the,

760
00:34:11,800 –> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: board but who are great. Athletes they’re very, talented but

761
00:34:14,920 –> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: also they buy into the culture here of you come in,

762
00:34:18,320 –> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: here you learn the, system and you forget the last

763
00:34:21,480 –> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: play and you move. Forward and we have so many

764
00:34:23,600 –> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: guys like, that and that’s why this. Team one of

765
00:34:25,680 –> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: the many reasons it’s been so good over the.

766
00:34:27,239 –> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Years it’s why when in fans will say he would

767
00:34:30,160 –> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: just go get a left. Tackle oh, Okay i’m just

768
00:34:34,480 –> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: it’s it’s become more of a. Challenge and even the

769
00:34:37,040 –> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: last five, YEARS i think we’ve seen, rookies the best,

770
00:34:39,840 –> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: rookies they end up being good, players but they struggle.

771
00:34:42,440 –> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: Early we’ll close with maybe a running back. Here we’ve

772
00:34:46,800 –> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: got to find a third down. Back let’s just be.

773
00:34:48,680 –> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Honest is you know who’s that going to? Be but

774
00:34:51,880 –> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: to lose SOME I Jp. Ryan you know how much that.

775
00:34:54,560 –> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: Hurts he’s going back to The.

776
00:34:55,640 –> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: BENGALS i hate, it but you’ve got to find.

777
00:34:58,400 –> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Somebody And tuton to, ME i got a couple of them,

778
00:35:01,640 –> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: here Racial, tuton Because i’m looking at speed, here like raw.

779
00:35:06,280 –> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Speed we last year The chiefs brought this up on

780
00:35:09,480 –> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: a past episode Of defending The kingdom had the most

781
00:35:12,000 –> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: second and fours and second and fives of any team

782
00:35:14,239 –> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: in the. League that’s a good thing because That’s Kareem, hunt,

783
00:35:17,360 –> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: Right and With pacheco still trying to come back from the,

784
00:35:20,560 –> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Injury i’m looking at who can bust a big, run

785
00:35:23,200 –> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: who can get a fifty yard.

786
00:35:24,400 –> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Run tutin is one of.

787
00:35:25,840 –> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: Those and there’s been A pachecko comp with him coming,

788
00:35:28,920 –> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: out and Then Jaden blue Of texas a four to three.

789
00:35:31,560 –> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Three these guys have to be, receivers being a third down,

790
00:35:35,040 –> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: back a little bit of back left tackle in this

791
00:35:36,800 –> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: league because you got to. PROTECT i think of the

792
00:35:40,040 –> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: IMAGE i have is P ran picking Up Durwin james

793
00:35:44,880 –> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: on an agat blitz and air hold the dude or

794
00:35:47,160 –> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: he’s gonna Kill. Pat and so there’s a lot to

795
00:35:50,200 –> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: that role in, going, hey go find a third down.

796
00:35:52,000 –> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Back But i’m, saying who is a Young jeric McKinnon

797
00:35:55,080 –> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: in this? Draft who’s the New jeric? McKinnon and so

798
00:35:58,680 –> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: that’s one. Thing go a lot of different directions with.

799
00:36:01,440 –> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: THIS i Like Trevion henderson At Ohio. STATE i think

800
00:36:04,560 –> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: he could be that infusion of juice into the backfield

801
00:36:08,480 –> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: that we’re talking. About great, speed great. PRODUCTION i mean

802
00:36:11,320 –> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: he shared the backfield With judkins At Ohio. State both

803
00:36:13,960 –> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: of them had over one thousand. Yards i’d take either of.

804
00:36:16,160 –> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 4: Them they’re both really good, players But henderson maybe fits

805
00:36:19,400 –> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: that speed mold that you’re talking. About Dylan samson out

806
00:36:22,440 –> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: Of tennessee is interesting that one would make my mom very,

807
00:36:25,640 –> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: happy And Charles davis would be very. HAPPY i still

808
00:36:29,239 –> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: Love Camp scataboo out Of Arizona.

809
00:36:31,200 –> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: STATE i know you do. TOO i just love how

810
00:36:33,600 –> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: he’s so.

811
00:36:33,960 –> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: Slippery he seems to be kind of falling when people

812
00:36:37,320 –> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: are doing their draft. Boards we’ll see what happens over

813
00:36:39,600 –> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: the course of draft. Weekend but he’s just a total

814
00:36:42,239 –> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: gamer WHO i Think coachrie would have a lot of fun.

815
00:36:44,880 –> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 4: With and if you watch the kid from smu at

816
00:36:47,320 –> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: ALL i, Have Bashad. Smith he reminds me a lot

817
00:36:50,520 –> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: Of jarreck McKennon when you watch.

818
00:36:51,760 –> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: Him i’m glad you brought him up because, yes and

819
00:36:56,360 –> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: we know our guy down the hallway who wants to

820
00:36:58,320 –> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: pick The he Had carson’s deal to. Pick this is his.

821
00:37:03,200 –> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Pick but he told shout out To jordan’s got the.

822
00:37:07,960 –> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Guy he’s GOT i got the guy for this. Year

823
00:37:09,920 –> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: he’s so PROUD i Got Carson. Steele i’m so. Proud

824
00:37:12,239 –> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: but there’s something to. That but But, SCATTERBOW i saw

825
00:37:16,480 –> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: him dominate. Games, yeah he took games and just said my,

826
00:37:20,000 –> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: ball my. Game and that’s WHEN i, thought, ooh this

827
00:37:23,239 –> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: guy is more than like a recreation of Like Mike

828
00:37:26,360 –> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: alstadt or.

829
00:37:27,200 –> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: Something there’s. MORE i know he’s. Dropped he doesn’t have the.

830
00:37:30,400 –> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: Measurables he’s not the fastest, cat but if you’re trying

831
00:37:34,600 –> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: to close out a game or he can impact a

832
00:37:37,400 –> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: game in varied, WAYS i would not be disappointed at

833
00:37:41,200 –> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: all to get The Arizona state running.

834
00:37:43,000 –> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: Back there’s Some Austin eckler.

835
00:37:44,560 –> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: THERE i think On Austin, ECKLER i Mean Austin eckler

836
00:37:47,560 –> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: would be the valvictorian of that kind of. PLAYER i

837
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839
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840
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841
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842
00:38:04,520 –> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: Machine drive the other team, crazy like what we got this?

843
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Speaker 1: Guy and that’s. Him so here we are spirit Of

844
00:38:12,320 –> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: pip prepared in. Position it’s what The chiefs. Do and

845
00:38:17,880 –> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: as we get ready For Green bay and the twenty

846
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Speaker 1: twenty five, draft just Know Red veach once again in

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Speaker 1: his group are invoking the spirit Of pip