Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver and returner Mecole Hardman joins the voice of the Chiefs, Mitch Holthus and senior team reporter Matt McMullen for this episode of Defending the Kingdom. Preview Week 8 of the 2023 NFL season, against another AFC West Division opponent and rival, the Denver Broncos!
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Speaker 1: The old adage is you can’t go home again. Well
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Speaker 1: that’s not true. In the Chief’s Kingdom, you can return home.
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Speaker 1: And on this Defending the Kingdom, we welcome back McCole
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Speaker 1: Hardman to the fold, who says I’m back to the
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Speaker 1: chief Kingdom with a electrifying punt return to help the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs beat the Chargers. Of course, Defending the Kingdom is
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Ticketmaster m coole Hardman takes it
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Speaker 1: at his own fifteen stops waits, comes up to the near.
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Speaker 2: Side, breaks a tackle at the forty yard line. M
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Speaker 2: coole Hardman midfield gets a block on his feek in
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Speaker 2: out of bounds at the charger thirty three yard line.
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Speaker 1: McCole Hardman, welcome back to the Chiefs Kingdom.
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Speaker 3: Where you belong.
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Speaker 2: And Hi everyone.
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Speaker 1: I’m Mi Chelda’s Voice of the Chiefs along with senior
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Speaker 1: team reporter Matt McMullen. This episode is entitled return Home,
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Speaker 1: but back on the Road. And before we talk about
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Speaker 1: returning home, let’s jump into the satellite that is the
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Speaker 1: mat Stat and take our trip around the world on
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Speaker 1: our own little virtual Defending the Kingdom satellite.
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Speaker 4: That was a good segue. That was good We have
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Speaker 4: some good ones this week. We have Ryan checking in
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Speaker 4: from Bartlesville, Oklahoma. All familiar with Bartlesville.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Phillips the company Phillips, Right, okay, Phillips sixty six.
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Speaker 2: That’s Bartlesville. I had no idea. Shout out to Ryan.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Also Oklahoma Christian Con so they have a
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Speaker 2: college there. It’s yeah for sure, all right? Ye.
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Speaker 4: Shout out to Carro and Mattis from Dortmund, Germany. We’ve
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Speaker 4: shouted them out before, but I mentioned it because they
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Speaker 4: were here for the home opener against the Lions. Feels
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Speaker 4: like forever ago now, but seven weeks ago, and they
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Speaker 4: wrote kind of a memoir about their time here and
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Speaker 4: how exciting it was. Of course they would have liked
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Speaker 4: to see a win, but they said they had an
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Speaker 4: amazing time in Kansas City doing all the Kansas City stuff,
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Speaker 4: and they will be back and we’ll see them here
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Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks, which is hard to believe
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Speaker 4: it’s almost here.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of that, at the Chiefs Kingdom show this week,
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Speaker 1: a family from Frankfurt, Germany came in for the Charger game.
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Speaker 1: Four little kids, right, wow, Yeah, it was like fools
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Speaker 1: is even like you know, so they came in because
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Speaker 1: they wanted to see it. They’re having such a great
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Speaker 1: time at the Kingdom Show. They didn’t want it to end, right,
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Speaker 1: Think about us being little kids coming and they’re headed
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Speaker 1: back to Frankfurt, Germany, and we’ll see them seeing too.
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Speaker 1: I wish I’ve gotten their names. I feel badly, but
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Speaker 1: I’m thinking what this family came in for the game?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it’s a ways away. When I was there in May,
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Speaker 4: you realize how far away you are. And I think
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Speaker 4: it’s so cool that people are coming here from Germany
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Speaker 4: just to experience not just the Chiefs, but to experience
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Speaker 4: Kansas City. I think it’s so cool and that’s a
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Speaker 4: connection that’s just now growing and going to continue growing
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Speaker 4: here for years to come. Speaking of far away, we
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Speaker 4: have a listener in Sydney, Australia and a listener in Wollongong, Australia.
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Speaker 4: Never heard of Wollongong’s south of Sydney. I mapped it,
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Speaker 4: but shout out to both.
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Speaker 2: Of you on the coast. Yeah okay, yeah not in Loandon,
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Speaker 2: New South Wales. Yeah, learned that today. You know the
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Speaker 2: NFL is gonna have a game there soon, right, they
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Speaker 2: sure will.
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Speaker 4: I always look at the international footprints if you don’t
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Speaker 4: know how this works. So the Chiefs, for example, are
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Speaker 4: allowed to market in Germany, the Mexico, Austria, and Switzerland.
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Speaker 4: Those are the only countries internationally the Chiefs are allowed
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Speaker 4: to market in. Other teams have their own markets too,
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Speaker 4: though I think the Rams have Australia and New Zealand.
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Speaker 4: So I always look at the schedule for future years
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Speaker 4: and it’s like, this possible we could go one of
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Speaker 1: Now, even those one off ennis like we’re playing the
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Speaker 1: could be against the Rams in Melbourne or Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Or sure could get those travel miles.
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Speaker 4: Russ is in Fresno, California, surrounded by Raider fans, he says,
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Speaker 4: but trying his best to convert them. And then lastly,
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Speaker 4: I was watching the Kansas City Marathon on Saturday because
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Speaker 4: one of my best friends, Sierra, was running in it.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to her. She finished in like five hours.
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Speaker 4: I could never do that, but there were Sierra from
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Speaker 4: She’s from from Dallas, South Dakota.
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Speaker 1: Dallas, Yeah, South Dakota, Uh huh yeah, right.
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Speaker 4: Little teeny town. But anyway, watching the marathon, we’re just
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Speaker 4: the race would see me and say hi and said
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Speaker 4: he listens to defending the kingdom. So I didn’t catch
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Speaker 4: his name, but shout out to you and congratulations on
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Speaker 4: running the marathon.
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Speaker 2: I could he was running the marathon. He was running
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Speaker 2: the marathon. He saw me. Hey, I love this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could never run a marathon. I ran like
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Speaker 4: five k’s in high school. I can’t even imagine doing
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Speaker 4: Kansas City Marathon, especially that guy.
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Speaker 2: But he had enough oxygen his lungs to shout out
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Speaker 4: It was like no problem at all, Like he was
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Speaker 4: like on a stroll around the park or something, running
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Speaker 4: impressive stuff.
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Speaker 1: That finish line, of course means everything to that twenty
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Speaker 1: means something to people when they return home. The National
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Speaker 1: Football League is interesting that and I remember this, and
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Speaker 1: I was talking to McCole about it, but I saw
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Speaker 1: great family. In a background, I thought, but what happens
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Speaker 1: after today? And then he became a free agent? You
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Speaker 1: know that last day of school. Everybody scatters and you’re like,
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Speaker 1: guy again? And so he signs with the Jets. But
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Speaker 1: now McCole is back. And when he ran that fifty
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Speaker 1: if you can go back and find it, to find
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Speaker 1: the All twenty two. Watch the reaction of the team.
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Speaker 1: It was like their little brother came back home and
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Speaker 1: just made the honor roll. It was terrific to see
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Speaker 1: the reaction that you can come home again, and how
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Speaker 1: happy is McCole Harman to be here?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, really really awesome having McCole back. I can’t remember
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Speaker 4: who told me this. This was years ago when I
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Speaker 4: with a heartbreaking loss or whatever it may be, the
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Speaker 4: cold reality is that team will never be fully together again.
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Speaker 4: The stars might be back and a lot of the
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Speaker 4: be together again, just the way that the business works
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Speaker 4: and the way.
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Speaker 2: That sports work.
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Speaker 4: And McCole obviously left in the off season, and you
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Speaker 4: and I are doing our jobs. We get to know
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Speaker 4: these guys as people, and McCole has always been one
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Speaker 4: of my favorite guys in this building. He is warm,
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Speaker 4: he’s funny, he’s energetic. He helps us win on the field,
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Speaker 4: but he’s also so friendly and awesome off of the field.
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Speaker 4: And it’s again the business of the NFL. Guys lead
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Speaker 4: wanted him to succeed in New York. But it’s almost
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Speaker 4: surreal that now, after six seven months, he’s back here
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Speaker 4: and he right away is making big plays to help
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs win. I’m just so excited that he’s back here.
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Speaker 4: And whenever he has the football in his hands, he’s
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Speaker 4: capable of making a big play. We saw that on Sunday,
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Speaker 4: that fifty yard punt return, and then on third down,
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes goes to him to move the chains that
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Speaker 4: keeps that last drive going. Isaiba Cheko was in the
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Speaker 4: that ice the game, Nicole Harbon helped us win four
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Speaker 4: days after getting back here. I’m just so happy for him.
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Speaker 1: I’m not sure, of course, just my thirtieth season is
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Speaker 1: the voice of the Chiefs. And I grew up with
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Speaker 1: it as a little kid, right, the little kids out
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Speaker 1: there in the Kingdom. I was that kid, and so
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Speaker 1: were youep growing up with this team. But honestly, I’m
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Speaker 1: not sure I’ve been around a guy that has had
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Speaker 1: so many big plays in the history of this team
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Speaker 1: that is soone to appreciate it about those plays, uh huh,
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Speaker 1: it’s really interesting, and a lot of them have been
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Speaker 1: like complimentary plays to set up something. His fifty eight
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Speaker 1: yard kickoff return. I said this over and over and
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Speaker 1: over again. The Chiefs were down twenty four to nothing
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Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans. No momentum, zero moment I said
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Speaker 1: on the air. All that’s going to take is a spark.
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Speaker 1: Somebody has to give this team a spark because it
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Speaker 1: looked as bleak as it could possibly look. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and peel Oh, it’s another playoff loss, and gosh, there’s
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Speaker 1: teams and all of a sudden. He has a fifty
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Speaker 2: I told you this before we started the podcast.
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Speaker 1: It was almost the exact path of the fifty eight
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Speaker 1: yard kickoff return against Houston. Once McCole had that kickoff return,
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Speaker 1: it set up a month long explosion that led to
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four. There’s countless plays like that and
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Speaker 1: McColl chief’s career that people don’t appreciate enough.
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Speaker 4: We don’t win the Super Bowl without McColl in twenty
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Speaker 4: nineteen because we don’t win that Texans game without McCole,
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Speaker 4: because you’re right, we needed the spark. How about the
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Speaker 4: thirteen seconds game against the Bills, maybe the greatest game
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Speaker 4: of all time? Right, you go back and watch the highlights.
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Speaker 4: One of the clips you never see is McCole had
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Speaker 4: that huge little drag route that he took for like
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Speaker 4: twenty five yards that set up the game winning walk
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Speaker 4: off touchdown to Travis Kelce. He never really see that highlight,
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Speaker 4: but that play set it up and he was playing
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Speaker 4: hurt in that game. And also, how about San Francisco
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Speaker 4: last year, So the Niners have dropped two games in
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Speaker 4: a row before that they had not lost a regular
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Speaker 4: season game since they lost to the Chiefs in the
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Speaker 4: middle of the year last year. McCole had like three
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Speaker 4: touchdowns in that game. We just don’t ever really talk
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Speaker 4: about it. But he’s a playmaker, that’s what he is.
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Speaker 4: He makes plays. And I’m just so glad he’s back
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Speaker 4: here in Kansas City and again wasted no time. I mean,
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Speaker 4: it’s not easy to come to a new place, even
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Speaker 4: the place that you’ve been before, and contribute right away.
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Speaker 4: He had been here for four days, one real practice,
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Speaker 4: two technical practices, goes out there in the next place.
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Speaker 2: It’s awesome.
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Speaker 1: His play against the Ravens, it was like an eighty
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Speaker 1: what’s a unique dynamic right now about McCole, Hardman, It’s
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Speaker 4: We were so excited about the prospect of Nicole and
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Speaker 4: but the way it worked out, they never.
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Speaker 2: Truly were because we traded for Caadarius.
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Speaker 4: I think his first game was the Titans game, and
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Speaker 4: after that and then only played again in the AFC
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Speaker 4: and we might now which is super exciting. You’re right
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Speaker 4: He doesn’t break stride, and he knows how to hit
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Speaker 4: his speed deep as well. So again Nicole Harbon back
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Speaker 1: And people say two jets now because we have Jerke McKinnon. Well,
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Speaker 1: But I love it the fact that you had a
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I’m bummed out that you weren’t here for it,
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Speaker 4: because like a million things are going on today and
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Speaker 4: But I got to chat with McCole just a few
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Speaker 4: in Kansas City. He is back, the jet is back, McCole.
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Speaker 4: Harbin only been here about a week and already making
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Speaker 4: McCole just, first of all, how does it feel to
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, you do your thing?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, cool, It’s great, man. I love being back
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Speaker 5: with y’all guys. You know all the coaches and you
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Speaker 5: know the coaching staff, the players, just the atmosphere and
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Speaker 3: You know, I’m excited to be back.
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Speaker 4: When you found out you were gonna come back here
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Speaker 4: and you found out the Chiefs wanted you back, what
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Speaker 5: Oh no, it definitely no emotions everywhere, because you know,
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Speaker 5: you’re still had an organization that you still want to
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Speaker 5: obviously it didn’t work out, and I just you know,
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Speaker 5: coming back to your old team, it’s like kind of
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Speaker 5: like a blestment because you don’t have to, you know,
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Speaker 3: You know, to like learn new offense.
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Speaker 5: You ain’t got to meet new people in you know,
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Speaker 5: and just to come back to something that you know
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Speaker 4: There’s all the footage of you out there at practice
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Speaker 4: You’re just dancing with the guys. It’s like you never left.
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Speaker 4: I mean, was it kind of surreal that there was
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Speaker 5: No, It’s it was just like that moment of energy
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Speaker 5: I’m just just gonna continue to bring the energy to here,
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Speaker 5: the depositive energy and the excitement, and you know, just
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Speaker 4: So and people like on the radio and everything wondering
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Speaker 4: like he’s definitely playing on Sunday and you made an
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Speaker 4: impact that fifty yard punt return. Walk me through that,
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Speaker 4: and then what’s it like as a return man when
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So, I mean the fun before I should
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Speaker 3: By JK, but it told like, hey go get that man.
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Speaker 5: So the next one like I’m gonna catch this no
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Speaker 5: And then the first person missed. When’s that first person
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Speaker 5: It’s like, oh yeah, this is like a sixty seven
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Speaker 3: And but fifty yards I’ll take it.
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Speaker 2: It’s pretty good.
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Speaker 4: Set up the game winning touchdown drive or game ceiling
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Speaker 4: touchdown drive. You’re doing your under the Helmet interview a
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Speaker 4: few minutes ago. I was listening to it your planning
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Speaker 5: But yes, the plan, Yes, that was the plan, like
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Speaker 3: I think I’m like, man, you know, it’s trade.
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Speaker 5: If I returned one man kick off for a punk return,
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Speaker 5: I should throw the excelf in the zone that it’d
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Speaker 5: you that I’ve watched film on and the seen what
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Speaker 5: So definitely somebody you can learn from. But just the
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Speaker 2: Though. Now the punt return is huge.
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Speaker 4: Obviously people are going to remember that what people might
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Speaker 4: because that extended to drive them One play later, Isaiah
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Speaker 4: was in the end zone. Were you the first read
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Blame Pat. I didn’t score. I could have.
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Speaker 5: I could have ended the game, okay, you know, because
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Speaker 5: I am the first read on there, and I don’t
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Speaker 3: I think traffic came open to as well.
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Speaker 5: It was kind of like, man, I believe they ran
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Speaker 5: I think I scored right there. But you know, overall,
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Speaker 5: I just make the catching, you know, first down, and
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Speaker 5: you know everything.
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Speaker 3: I guess it’s history.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Isaiah, Now you talked about this a few days
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Speaker 4: ago at your press conference, but I think a lot
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Speaker 4: last year to get back to the AFC Championship game.
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Speaker 4: You missed all that time you had the injury. Just
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was definitely a struggle because actually I
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Speaker 3: I don’t think I said that. I should have.
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Speaker 2: Said it, but that was in the title game that happened.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was ante championship game. Yep.
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Speaker 5: So going back, I was just, you know, I was
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Speaker 3: And I never knew why.
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Speaker 5: my pelvits at, Like it was like crazy infected. And
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Speaker 5: I’m like, dang, that’s why I kept feeling like my
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Speaker 5: rowing and stuff. Like he was like, yeah, like you
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Speaker 5: was like I had to clean it out basically, so
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Speaker 5: like instead of me like having like growing repair on
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Speaker 5: my both sides, he actually repaired my pelvits, like the
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Speaker 5: tissue that was above my pelvis or wherever it was
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Speaker 5: at to get the out the infected area out because
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Speaker 5: it was a mess.
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Speaker 3: He said.
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Speaker 5: It was like he said, it was a mess down there,
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Speaker 5: like I had to really clean you up. And so
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Speaker 5: usually it was like a simple surgery that really got
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Speaker 5: a little complicated because he had to clean me up
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Speaker 5: a little bit. And I didn’t know that because I
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Speaker 5: woke up. I think it was me and Marii Cooper
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Speaker 5: was there. Uh who else was there? I can’t even think, Uh,
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Speaker 5: somebody else had the same surgery. I think Sauce Gardner
438
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Speaker 5: was there. I believe we was all there the same surgery.
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Speaker 5: But I was kind of like more messed up. I’m like,
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Speaker 5: why y’all walking and I’m I’m hurting to do whatever,
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Speaker 5: you know. I kind of figured I was that, and
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Speaker 5: then but after that they happened, you know, finally went
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Speaker 5: got the OTAs, didn’t do oas training camp, and finally,
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Speaker 5: you know, didn’t get healthy property like a week before
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Speaker 5: the first game, and then after that I was doing
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Speaker 5: pretty good.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you look pretty good right now and looking
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00:19:17,680 –> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 4: good on Sunday. I want to ask you about the
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Speaker 4: culture here. And this is nothing against the Jets, because
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Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for those guys. But
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Speaker 4: just now that you’ve had a chance to go away
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Speaker 4: and then come back, just what’s special about the culture
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Speaker 4: here in this locker room?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: The standard, man is, it’s crazy, you know, but you
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Speaker 5: know when you go somewhere else and actually like here,
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Speaker 5: so we would have been to like you know a
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Speaker 5: few super Bowls and so now here, the standard is
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Speaker 5: is you know, is that is winning is get to that,
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Speaker 5: you know, and over there is more. So like you know,
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Speaker 5: we’re trying to establish the standard, you know, the culture
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Speaker 5: will to establish what we’re about. So that way we
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Speaker 5: can you know, play to that and then you know,
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Speaker 5: and with the mindset of that getting to the big game.
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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, but like.
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Speaker 5: It’s already set, it’s already established, and that’s how we
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Speaker 5: go about things. Is no you know, working the way
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Speaker 5: in or we’re gonna change is to change that like
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Speaker 5: when I got back, instead the same thing we practicing,
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Speaker 5: how we practice, we play, how we play, you know
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Speaker 5: what I’m saying, And Coach Ree ain’t changed.
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Speaker 3: Nobody changed. Everything is you know, still the.
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Speaker 4: Same absolutely, And lastly, playing the Broncos this weekend, I
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Speaker 4: think your first hundred yard game was that mile high
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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one. It’s your thoughts on playing
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Speaker 4: the Broncos on Sunday.
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Speaker 5: Looking forward to you know, haven’t seen the playbook yet
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Speaker 5: or the game playing. Hopefully I’m in there a little
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Speaker 5: bit so I can touch the touch the football a
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Speaker 5: little bit more, you know, But I’m excited. I love
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Speaker 5: to playing my Hou’s gonna beil a cold game, which
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Speaker 5: is great. Kind of missed the cold a little bit.
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Speaker 5: So just been out there with the team again, man,
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Speaker 5: and you know, play my role, do the best way
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Speaker 5: I can, and hopefully with a win.
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Speaker 2: Well, I’m so fired up year back. Man.
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Speaker 4: I think about back in twenty nineteen, we don’t win
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Speaker 4: that Texans game without you starting everything with that huge
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Speaker 4: kickoff return. Yeah, man, think about the thirteen seconds game.
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Speaker 4: We don’t win that game without you having that huge
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Speaker 4: play that set up Travis’s touchdown to beat the Bills.
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Speaker 3: Talk about it.
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Speaker 5: First of all, That’s what I don’t like because I
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Speaker 5: see all the highlights of Trav catching the ball on
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Speaker 5: it and it is on the right side. But it’s like,
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Speaker 5: y’all don’t show so to play before how we got
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Speaker 5: down there, like and remind you and remind you I
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Speaker 5: was hurt too.
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Speaker 4: Well, I remember that because I interviewed you after the
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Speaker 4: game and I was like you excited and you’re like,
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Speaker 4: I’m hurting, bro.
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Speaker 5: I was hurt like I had like a it was
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Speaker 5: a hip pointer or like something oblique. It was something
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Speaker 5: where like I had to go in the locker room
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Speaker 5: to come back out, like I was hurt that bad.
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Speaker 5: And then literally like three plays later, like they called
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Speaker 5: the overall I catched it.
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Speaker 3: I guess that it’s like a ten.
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Speaker 5: And I’m like, if I wasn’t hurt out the score,
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Speaker 5: but hey, can we show this play like you know
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Speaker 5: this set it up?
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Speaker 3: But I’m glad you said that.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course I remember these things.
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Speaker 4: And also, so the Niners have lost two games in
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Speaker 4: a row, and everyone’s talking about how the Niners hadn’t
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Speaker 4: lost all these regular season hadn’t lost a regular season
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Speaker 4: games since we beat them last year when you had
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Speaker 4: like three touchdowns against them.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I.
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Speaker 4: Remember these things. Yeah, CH’s kingdom, remember these things. We’re
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Speaker 4: glad you’re back. You’re my mom’s favorite player, you know that.
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Speaker 2: Ooh hey yeah yeah.
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Speaker 4: When when we heard your coming back, she texted me
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Speaker 4: like an All Caps saying like McColl was back.
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Speaker 3: I’m like, appreciate it moment. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Man appreciate it again.
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Speaker 1: He’s got an infectious personality, but his football skills helped
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Speaker 1: this team last year. He talked about it in this presser,
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Speaker 1: and you and I were getting the indication that it
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Speaker 1: was very, very serious of what he was going through
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Speaker 1: last year, and we even heard some you know, it
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Speaker 1: could be really bad, but the fact that he was
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Speaker 1: trying to get back to that AFC championship game to
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Speaker 1: be in the playoff run but to d was really
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Speaker 1: kind of a scary ailment. But to see him recover
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Speaker 1: from that is now a story that everybody is seeing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it’s a testament to him.
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Speaker 4: It’s one of those things where the public didn’t know
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Speaker 4: about it until he spoke about it a few days
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Speaker 4: ago at his opening press conference last week, and he
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Speaker 4: kind of laid it all out there, and I think
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Speaker 4: people will have a newfound respect and understanding for what
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Speaker 4: he went through because he was just away from the team,
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Speaker 4: he wasn’t practicing. People didn’t know, you assume much just
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Speaker 4: a run of the mill injury, but he was really
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Speaker 4: going through some stuff and then hurt his groin in
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Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game. So he was working so hard
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Speaker 4: to get back to that game. It meant so much
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Speaker 4: to him. And to his credit, he made it pack
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Speaker 4: for that game and played and then got hurt again.
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Speaker 4: And I was so beating up for him that he
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Speaker 4: couldn’t play in the Super Bowl. But now he’s back
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Speaker 4: in Kansas City and hopefully he can play in the
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl this year.
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Speaker 1: Why not and playing this week because we’re talking about yeah,
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Speaker 1: you can go home again, right home again, but back
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Speaker 1: on the road, and back on the road means going
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Speaker 1: to Denver for the second time and essentially a.
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Speaker 2: Three week period. It’s a auditing in the schedule.
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Speaker 1: It’s happened now and time and again throughout the National
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Speaker 1: Football League. But this Denver Bronco team, and I’m going
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Speaker 1: to give them some credit here. They beat Green Bay
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Speaker 1: last week by a nineteen seventeen score, held US to
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Speaker 1: nineteen points in that nineteen six win on that Thursday
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Speaker 1: night football game. I’m sounding the alarm this week because
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have got to be ready to be on
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Speaker 1: their a game to beat a Denver Bronco team that
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Speaker 1: is no lost its resolve. That’s the best compliment I
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Speaker 1: could give this team right now for Denver is they
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Speaker 1: believe they can win this game and the Chiefs are
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Speaker 1: going to have to beat them to beat them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of respect for them right now, because
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Speaker 4: it would have been very easy after that Thursday night
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Speaker 4: game that we played them just a few weeks ago
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Speaker 4: and beat them, for them to say, all right, let’s
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Speaker 4: trade everybody away, let’s just pack it in for the season.
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Speaker 4: They didn’t do that. I mean, this is a team
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Speaker 4: that sure is two and five in the standings, but
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Speaker 4: that went over Green Bay gives them the look of
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Speaker 4: a team that believes they can turn this thing around.
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Speaker 4: And the AFC is wide open. I mean, there’s seven
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Speaker 4: spots in the playoffs right Like, they don’t think they’re
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Speaker 4: out of it, and they’re playing like they don’t think
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Speaker 4: they’re out of it, and especially against us, they want
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Speaker 4: to beat us like it’s the most important thing in
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Speaker 4: the world. So the Chiefs will have to be ready
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Speaker 4: for this game. This is a team that obviously has
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Speaker 4: a lot of talent. They’ve had a lot of bad
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Speaker 4: luck over the last couple of years. But it’ll be
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Speaker 4: a challenge for sure.
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Speaker 1: And can it change in two weeks three weeks really well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Broncos have a healthier Javan Tay Williams back, and
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Speaker 1: he was able to have. Looking at it, he had
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Speaker 1: eighty two yards rushing in the game against Green Bay.
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Speaker 1: That’s the first time he has been eighty yards or
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Speaker 1: more since Week thirteen of twenty twenty one. Remember, he
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Speaker 1: had the ACL injury. But now he’s healthier, better, maybe
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Speaker 1: even more impactful perhaps than he was in that Thursday
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Speaker 1: night game. They have Baron browningback, who they brought off
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Speaker 1: the injury list with the Chiefs. Though, now you’re looking
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Speaker 1: at Charles and Menaho and you got Mkole Hardman, and
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Speaker 1: the Broncers are going, wait a minute, we didn’t see
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Speaker 1: those guys two weeks ago. But a Mena who to me,
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Speaker 1: I got so excited to see what he could mean
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Speaker 1: to this defense because this defense, to me, this Chiefs
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Speaker 1: defense has not even scratched the surface yet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to Kansas City. Charleston min who his Chief’s debut.
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Speaker 4: He has four pressures, played fifty one percent of the snaps,
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Speaker 4: had a sack, and also had a batted pass that
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Speaker 4: resulted in an interception in the red zone. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he was awesome. He’s everything that we talked about what
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Speaker 4: he could be in camp and in his first game
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Speaker 4: with the Chiefs. He has fresh legs and he was
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Speaker 4: just incredible last week. Let’s keep that going here in
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Speaker 4: this game against the Broncos offense. That they only scored
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Speaker 4: nineteen points last week, but I’ll give them some credit.
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Speaker 4: They found a way to win the game. We talk
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Speaker 4: about the Chiefs in that sense a lot. We don’t
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Speaker 4: worry about what the stats in the scoreboard are as
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Speaker 4: long as we win. They find a way to win.
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Speaker 4: Broncos found a way to win last week. Russell Wilson
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Speaker 4: played well, completed twenty of twenty nine passes for one
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Speaker 4: hundred and ninety four yards in a touchdown. Cortland Sutton
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Speaker 4: had a nice game, had seventy six receiving yards. Jerry
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Speaker 4: Judy nice game, sixty four receiving yards and big plays.
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Speaker 4: So Judy had an eighteen yard catch, Sutton had a
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Speaker 4: thirty three yard catch and an eighteen yard touchdown. And
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Speaker 4: you mentioned Javonte Williams, good young player who I think
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Speaker 4: is finally getting healthy. But also Julia McLoughlin is a
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Speaker 4: guy that we talked about going into the last Denver game.
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Speaker 4: They don’t give him the ball a lot, but whenever
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Speaker 4: they do, he just makes things happen. I mean, last
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Speaker 4: week he had five rushes for forty five yards, including
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Speaker 4: a twenty three yard r This dude’s averaging six point
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Speaker 4: nine yards per carry.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 4: He has not had more than ten carries in a
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Speaker 4: game this season. He had seven carries for thirty yards
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Speaker 4: against US a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: But he’s a guy to be weary of.
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Speaker 4: And if you’re this Chief’s defensive line, if you’re this
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Speaker 4: Chief’s defense in general, which going into this game is
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Speaker 4: the number two scoring defense in the NFL, by the way,
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Speaker 4: has not allowed an opponent to score more than twenty
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Speaker 4: one points in a game all season. Got to be
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Speaker 4: ready for the challenge of all these playmakers, notably to
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Speaker 4: start Javonta Williams and Jalil McLoughlin. Not allow Russell Wilson
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Speaker 4: to have that play action passing game working as well,
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Speaker 4: because he has the receivers to have big plays.
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Speaker 1: One of the things the Chiefs did in to mitigate
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Speaker 1: the Broncos attack in that Thursday night game was to
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Speaker 1: stay away from the big runs. Right now, in this league,
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Speaker 1: I believe I’ve got this right. Only Arizona and Miami
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Speaker 1: have more twenty plus runs than the Broncos. Okay, and
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Speaker 1: they had three guys that had twenty plus runs in
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Speaker 1: the win over Green Bay, the aforementioned Gavonte Williams, the
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Speaker 1: afore mentioned Julia McLoughlin, and Russell Wilson. Wilson is still
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Speaker 1: fourth in NFL history among quarterbacks in rushing yards. But
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Speaker 1: the thing that the Chiefs did to help win that
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Speaker 1: game on that Thursday night is something that will be
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Speaker 1: paramount in this game Sunday, and that is to slow
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Speaker 1: down the Bronco runners as receivers if you look at
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Speaker 1: what they have done. We know about some ijp Ryme.
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Speaker 1: We mentioned him and that before the first match, and
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Speaker 1: go back and watch his forty one yard screen pass
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Speaker 1: for a touchdown with the Bengals against the Chiefs in
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Speaker 1: that AFC Championship game in twenty twenty one. But these
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Speaker 1: guys have had big passing plays as a runner. So
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Speaker 1: what does that do that gives the Broncos a chance
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Speaker 1: to even have like a one wide receiver look without
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Speaker 1: being Courtland Sutton, who had six targets against the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: six targets in the game you mentioned and leaven go
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Speaker 1: with two running backs at the same time. We talk
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Speaker 1: about McCole and Kadarius being together at the same time.
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Speaker 1: The Broncos can do that and have a threat to
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Speaker 1: run it and to throw it. I just think there’s
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Speaker 1: issues here that the Chiefs have again got to be
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Speaker 1: on their a game. You cannot look pass this game
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Speaker 1: if you remember the Chiefs kingdom and then defensively with
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Speaker 1: Nick Benito and what he’s been able to be disruptive
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Speaker 1: and hack the ball out mentioned Baron Brown comeback. The
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Speaker 1: Chiefs were one of five in the red zone against
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Speaker 1: this team in that game on a Thursday night football.
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Speaker 1: And so here’s an interesting stat. Green Bay in this
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday had what seven different guys catch passes,
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Speaker 1: but none for over thirty yards or more. It was
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Speaker 1: nuts or it might have been ten guys. I think
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Speaker 1: it was ten guys. That goes back to nineteen fifty,
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Speaker 1: meaning it was the Broncos that prevented the big play.
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Speaker 1: So going into this game, there’s enough there on the
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Speaker 1: plate for the Chiefs to take care of them, to
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Speaker 1: try to beat these guys.
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Speaker 4: The Broncos really had a reset defensively last week and
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Speaker 4: truly against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: Kind of started against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 4: Thinkah, yeah, the Chiefs had a lot of yards against
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Speaker 4: the Broncos, and that’s why we weren’t too concerned about
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs offensive output because they had three hundred and
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Speaker 4: eighty nine yards of offense and Patrick Mahomes threw for
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Speaker 4: three hundred and six yards against them, but they held
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs to nineteen points. Now, this Broncos defense had
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Speaker 4: their struggles at the beginning of the year, notably that
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Speaker 4: Miami game, but that really skews all the numbers overall.
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Speaker 4: Like when you allow seventy points in seven hundred total yards,
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Speaker 4: it’s going to skew the numbers for this season. The
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Speaker 4: Broncos defense has a proud defense that has a lot
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Speaker 4: of really good players on it that were there last
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Speaker 4: year when it was among the best defenses in the NFL.
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Speaker 4: So it doesn’t surprise me that they have played well
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Speaker 4: in recent weeks and played really well against the Packers
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Speaker 4: last week. You mentioned it though. The key for the
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Speaker 4: Chiefs in this game is red zone. You cannot go
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Speaker 4: one for five in the red zone. The Chiefs against
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Speaker 4: the Broncos two weeks ago had eleven possessions, nine of
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Speaker 4: them ended in Broncos territory, and in the first half
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Speaker 4: they had drives that ended at the Denver seventeen yard line,
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Speaker 4: fifteen yard line, six yard line, and three yard line
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Speaker 4: in the first half. Only got ten points off of
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Speaker 4: those four drives. That’s not Chiefs football now. Fortunately, they
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Speaker 4: looked a lot better in the red zone last week
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Speaker 4: against the Chargers. I think McCole Harbin helps us a
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Speaker 4: lot in the red zone for the reasons that we’ve mentioned.
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Speaker 4: Look back at the San Francisco game last year. How
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Speaker 4: leaf he can be in the red zone. But you’re right,
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Speaker 4: you cannot overlook them. They have a lot of talent
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Speaker 4: guys like Justin Simmons on the back end, Pats or
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Speaker 4: Tan on the back end. It’ll be a challenge for sure.
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Speaker 4: But the red zone, I think is where this game
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Speaker 4: will be won.
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Speaker 2: And it’s supposed to be thirty seven degrees and snow. Okay,
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Speaker 2: there’s eighty five degrees here yesterday.
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Speaker 1: If you’re going to try to upset a team that
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Speaker 1: has beaten you, and I’m not even gonna say the streak,
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Speaker 1: I’m not even to talk about.
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Speaker 2: It because it doesn’t matter doesn’t matter, as this game
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Speaker 2: is what it is.
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Speaker 1: And we look at what the Chiefs have been able
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Speaker 1: to do on the road in the division, which is
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Speaker 1: amazing to think that Patrick Mahomes is sixteen and zher
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Speaker 1: against the AFC West on the road, even better at home,
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Speaker 1: I mean down the road than at home. Andy Reid
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Speaker 1: is twenty and one in the last twenty one games
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Speaker 1: on the road against the division. Doesn’t matter, That’s what
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Speaker 1: coach is preaching this week. It does not matter. But
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Speaker 1: can Denver pull off an upset? First of all, they
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Speaker 1: believe they can win. That’s the resolve. Two runners as runners,
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Speaker 1: runners as receivers, a defense that’s stingy when you get
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Speaker 1: down to the and then we didn’t mention Mims.
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Speaker 2: Mims as the return of the rookie out.
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Speaker 1: Of Oklahoma a ninety nine yard kickoff return against Washington.
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Speaker 1: He’s had another explosive sixty yard plus return in the
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Speaker 1: punting game. They can get chunk plays in the return
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Speaker 1: game as well. Just saying the Chiefs have got to
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Speaker 1: take care of their business this week and go out
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Speaker 1: and beat these guys. But you’re gonna have to knock
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Speaker 1: them out. This won’t be This won’t be by decision.
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Speaker 4: Can I leave you with a very fun stat. Sure,
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Speaker 4: this is a great stat. This is super We have
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Speaker 4: to Are we off the satellite?
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Speaker 2: Now? Are we still going around the Earth? Well?
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Speaker 4: This is this is kind of like a satellite. Like
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Speaker 4: someone way smarter than me came up with this. But
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Speaker 4: I saw it earlier today and I think it’s great.
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Speaker 4: So there is a stat out there called DVA. Many
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Speaker 4: of you probably know what that is. It’s defense adjusted
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Speaker 4: value over average. I do not know how it’s calculated.
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Speaker 4: Computers figure all this out. It basically tells you how
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Speaker 4: good an offense is, how good a defense is, and
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Speaker 4: how good a special teams unit is relative to the
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Speaker 4: rest of the league. This is all figured out by
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Speaker 4: a guy named Aaron Shatz. Says the Chiefs are the
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Speaker 4: first team to be in the top five in all
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Speaker 4: three phases so offense, defense, and special teams and DVOA
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Speaker 4: as of week seven since the nineteen ninety nine Rams.
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Speaker 2: We know how that team was pretty good.
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Speaker 4: They are the number three offense according to his metrics,
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Speaker 4: the number five defense, and the number two special teams unit.
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Speaker 4: Just the seventh team since he started tracking this stuff,
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Speaker 4: which dates back to the eighties. To be top five
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Speaker 4: in all three units in week seven of the season
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Speaker 4: pretty amazing. So yeah, pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Huh.
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Speaker 4: We’re so used to the offense being so good. The
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Speaker 4: defense has gotten better and better every year, but right
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Speaker 4: now we are in uncharted waters with how good this
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Speaker 4: defense is playing. The offense was electric last week against
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Speaker 4: the Chargers. We know what they can do. And the
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Speaker 4: special teams unit, Harrison Bucker has been incredible this season
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Speaker 4: and you just add McCole harbin to the mix. We
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Speaker 4: saw what he did on Sunday. This is a special
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Speaker 4: team and I think we can’t lose sight of that.
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Speaker 1: But you got to take care of business in this
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Speaker 1: league every week. We see it. Every week somebody gets ambushed.
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Speaker 1: Take care of your business this week against the Broncos.
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Speaker 1: And this defense and offensive yards allowed is the best
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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs since the nineteen ninety seven Chiefs. You’re
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Speaker 1: going back to the days of the late Derek Thomas
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Speaker 1: and Neil Smith. But when I watched it the rewatch
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Speaker 1: the game against the Chargers, and there was a different
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Speaker 1: combinations that go back a couple of episodes on Defending
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Speaker 1: the Kingdom. But when that group had Chris Jones at
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Speaker 1: left defensive in a mena, who at left or left tackle,
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Speaker 1: I should say different guys at right tackle.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: It could be Felix, it could be Mike Dana, it
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Speaker 1: could be Turk Worton, and then Carlotus at a right
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Speaker 1: defensive d It took me back to like my real
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Speaker 1: childhood of the Buck Buchanan, Curly Cult, Jerry Mays days
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Speaker 1: because they were a wrecking crew that we haven’t seen
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Speaker 1: a front play like that across the board really, I
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Speaker 1: think since way back when with the Hankstram led Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: But we know this.
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Speaker 1: You can go home, you can return home, but you
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Speaker 1: also have to go back on the road.



