Yes, No & Bizarro | Raider Week Memories | Defending the Kingdom

Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus and Chiefs Reporter Matt McMullen – plus various special guests – break down the latest news and storylines in Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Danage. On the day when you get opportunity

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Speaker 1: to this game, they can play OCAs. I’ll do what

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Speaker 1: text out Kansas City that cheats all right in the

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Speaker 1: thick of a baby. Welcome to this edition of Defending

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Speaker 1: the kingdomach Shelters with you Voice of the Chiefs along

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Speaker 1: with senior team reporter Matt McMullen. And yes, it’s eightters

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Speaker 1: week point a, part one of the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: version of this great rivalry dating back to nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, we’re wearing our crucial

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Speaker 1: catch hoodies here. This is our crucial catch game. But

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Speaker 1: we’re not going to wear these hoodies on game day. Now,

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Speaker 1: we want to let’s just accentuate why we’re doing it

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Speaker 1: right to bring awareness to do cancer screening. I was

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Speaker 1: reminded that this week with Nicko Bolton being on The

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Speaker 1: Chief’s Kingdom radio show and his mom had breast cancer

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Speaker 1: and nick who is so courageous during that time as

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Speaker 1: a young teen, just brings it all to life. But truthfully,

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Speaker 1: we’re not going to wear these hoodies on Raiders game night.

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Speaker 1: Are we black and white? Yeah, we can’t. They’re nice hoodies,

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Speaker 1: They’re nice but they are black, so we can’t wear

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Speaker 1: these on game day. But it is a very important cause.

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to speak with a man named

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Speaker 1: Gary yesterday. He’ll be one of the people honored on

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Speaker 1: the field at halftime on a Monday night. He’s a

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Speaker 1: prostate cancer survivor and just a really interesting story. He

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Speaker 1: when he reached a certain age, was getting tested every

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Speaker 1: year his PSA levels to make sure that everything was okay,

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Speaker 1: and he was very healthy, he had no symptoms, and

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Speaker 1: one day his results came back and he had cancer.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that he kept telling me is if

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Speaker 1: you get screened and checked, if they catch it early,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of people, for the most part, survive

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Speaker 1: prostate cancer. But if you wait and don’t get checked

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Speaker 1: and it’s too late, your chances are not nearly as good.

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Speaker 1: So we’re going to talk about a lot of football here,

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Speaker 1: a lot of positive stuff, but it’s a great chance

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Speaker 1: for the NFL, with its amazing platform, to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: if you can get screened for a certain kind of

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Speaker 1: type of cancer when you reach a certain a you

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Speaker 1: should do it. Yeah, colon cancer is the same way

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Speaker 1: they used to say fifty. Now they’re saying like forty

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Speaker 1: five and forty might be the new fifty. We’ve got

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Speaker 1: friends that have been diagnosed with colon cancer. And so

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Speaker 1: the black and white hoodie okay for Raiders Week, not

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Speaker 1: so much. But these colors represent the different cancers. You

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Speaker 1: can look them up and just realize how important is

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Speaker 1: to be very, very careful and to screen and to

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Speaker 1: be vigilant in your lives for the different kinds of cancer.

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Speaker 1: All right, this Reader’s Week Edition, Part one, we’re gonna

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Speaker 1: have some fun. We’re gonna go a little bit off

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Speaker 1: the grid here because instead of breaking this game down,

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Speaker 1: if you go to High Chiefs Inside or go to

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Speaker 1: Kingdom Conversations, we break it down. This one. We’re gonna

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Speaker 1: have some fun because this will be entitled Yes No

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Speaker 1: Bizarro and that is your and my recollection of past

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Speaker 1: Raider games in this rivalry, ones we like, the yes,

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Speaker 1: the no, the ones we don’t like so much, and

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Speaker 1: then the bizarre version of the Raiders Rivalry. But before

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Speaker 1: we do that Raiders Week or any week, we go

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Speaker 1: around the world and check in with our Kingdom defenders

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Speaker 1: throughout the planet. Now normally we do thirteen seconds, so

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Speaker 1: thirteen names in places I’ve been bending the rules a

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Speaker 1: bit lately and did it again today. We have eighteen

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Speaker 1: so it’s eighteen all right, it’s thirteen seconds plus five

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Speaker 1: for five touchdowns scored against the Buccaneers. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like the way you get the math in there now. Also,

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Speaker 1: the North Pole was represented last week here by a

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Speaker 1: visitor to the North Pole. Sure was, it sure was.

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Speaker 1: And we have some good ones here today. So we

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Speaker 1: have Anthony and Joplin. He’ll be here on Monday, and

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Speaker 1: we’ll also be participating in the halftime show, which is

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Speaker 1: very cool. We have Mickey and KCMO, Nikki and Hannibal Missouri,

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Speaker 1: a big time Kingdom defender. They’re always checking in, So

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Speaker 1: shout out to you. Nicki hometown of Mark Twain. He

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Speaker 1: was a big Chiefs fan. By the way, of course,

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Speaker 1: Smuel clements. Yes, maybe he’ll be at the game on

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Speaker 1: on Monday, I think so I’ll leave him tickets. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got Duncan in Oklahoma. Jason and Vermillion, South Dakota,

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Speaker 1: Go Yots, my wife’s alma mater. We’ve got Duncan’s not

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Speaker 1: from Duncan, Oklahoma? Is he? Because there is a Duncan Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I don’t believe so I thought it was Duncan in Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: good if you have the name of the town you’re

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Speaker 1: living in. That’s true. Mullin Missouri. I’ll go back and

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Speaker 1: look at it, but we know he’s in Oklahoma. At least.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got Anthony and Marshfield, Missouri. Rogilio in Pomona, California.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I said your name right, Kent in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Big weekend here for Kent behind enemy lines, yep, big time.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got Robert in Cape Girardo, Missouri. Done in the

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Speaker 1: boot heel, Chris and Richmond, Virginia, Tom and Amanda and

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Speaker 1: It’s just great. They’re one of our first people that

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Speaker 1: still Kingdom defenders out there. We’ve got Sheila in Coca Florida,

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Speaker 1: Ruben and Turlock, California. John in Tucson, Arizona. This one’s

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Speaker 1: a cool one. So he’ll be here for the game

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Speaker 1: on Monday with his daughter. It’s his first game in

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Speaker 1: twenty six years eight years ago when she graduated. He

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Speaker 1: promised her that he’d take her to a game. Well,

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Speaker 1: all this time has passed, but he’s finally making good

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Speaker 1: have happened in those eight years since that promise was made? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good things. Yeah. We’ve got Hunter in Tipton, Missouri,

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Speaker 1: Mike and Cardinals. There you go, Mike and Yukon, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: Perry and the Philippines. And you’ll like this one. Brian

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Speaker 1: from is it Carney Nebraska? Carney Nebraska, home of the

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Speaker 1: Bearcats or the University of Nebraska Lopers Universe Nebraska Carney Lopers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but get this, this is cool. So he was originally

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Speaker 1: He went to college and his roommate was a gigantic

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Speaker 1: Raiders fan and he would always root against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: to the point where Brian started rooting for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: just to spite his roommate, and then made the full

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Speaker 1: conversion over time and now he’s a full blown Chiefs fan.

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Speaker 1: Evangelism comes in so many different ways. Yeah, so yes,

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Speaker 1: and that’s our last one. So lots of good ones

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Speaker 1: this week. Well those are awesome ones. So let’s get

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Speaker 1: into our yes no Bizarrow part of the Chiefs rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to want to start with yes or no?

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Speaker 1: yes or no? Let’s start with no. So we have

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Speaker 1: some positivity here in the middle. Okay, I’ll start with

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Speaker 1: the first no here, and these were the games that

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Speaker 1: you’d like to forget. But we might be an agreement

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Speaker 1: on this one. But it’s November twentieth, twenty fourteen at

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Speaker 1: the Colisseum in Oakland. The Raiders were oh and ten.

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Speaker 1: there and get it done. Instead, Latavius Murray runs for

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Speaker 1: victory to go one and ten. That game. That was

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Speaker 1: right in front of me is we viewed it in

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Speaker 1: the coliseum with like water dripping on us, hoping that

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Speaker 1: up above. Oh boy, that place, yikes. But I summary

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Speaker 1: and then like Eric Barry, so I go get him, Ry,

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Speaker 1: go get him. But he wasn’t moving just quite right.

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Speaker 1: And now we know it was after that game that

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Speaker 1: the night. It was a bad night all the way

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Speaker 1: around at the coliseum, thinking we’re going to roll these guys,

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Speaker 1: and getting upset with the Latavius Murray ninety yard run

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So I wrote down one for each of

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Speaker 1: these and I was thinking to myself, I don’t want

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Speaker 1: to do the same one as Mitch, but that game

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Speaker 1: solidly fits in the no category. I had to write

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Speaker 1: it down. And what I remember about it was before

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Speaker 1: win over the Seahawks, the Legion of Boom Seahawks. The

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Speaker 1: game in that one. It was like two degrees outside.

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Speaker 1: I believe this an awesome game, and the defense stopped

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Speaker 1: playing really good football right now. We’re going to go

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Speaker 1: in there and beat them right and then keep things rolling. Well,

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Speaker 1: they lose that game. It was just a tough one

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Speaker 1: in every sense of the word. That started a three

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Speaker 1: game losing streak the Chiefs in nine and seven and

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Speaker 1: that was the only year in coach Reid’s tenure in

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Speaker 1: really good Seahawk team, and I remember all our work

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Speaker 1: was done for post game, but I went into the

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Speaker 1: but I looked around that locker room. Our guys were exhausted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I felt the perils of playing Sunday to Thursday on

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Speaker 1: like we had to do it, you know. And last

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Speaker 1: in a showdown game. But man, I thought for us

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Speaker 1: huge task, and unfortunately it came true. But that was

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Speaker 1: the first time I saw the oh, Sunday to Thursday travel,

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Speaker 1: real time to recover that I thought it got to

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Speaker 1: diagnosis after the game. Yeah, I mean, you make a

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Speaker 1: great point about Thursday road games. I think that game

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Speaker 1: But it’s just as a a disadvantage. I think when

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Speaker 1: can still see Nelson Agilore busting between the safeties on

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Speaker 1: that long pass play, thinking wow, this could be an ambush,

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00:19:50,040 –> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: and it was that day. So that’s the warning for

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Speaker 1: this Monday night game. Don’t get ambush, don’t get caught

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Speaker 1: into some kind of comfort feeling here because Josh Jacobs

414
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Speaker 1: is coming and so is Davante Adams. Are the only

415
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Speaker 1: two guys that are touching the ball right now, I

416
00:20:03,359 –> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: think wall or touch at some But again, go back

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Speaker 1: to watch our Kingdom conversations. This week we get into

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Speaker 1: all that this episode of Defending the Kingdom, though a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. Yes, no bizarre row dealing with the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and writers rivalry. I have two. Now this is

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Speaker 1: going to be hey kids said on my knee version,

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00:20:20,040 –> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: because I’m going to take you all the way back

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Speaker 1: to my very first year of being the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Right, We’re going back in the ancient of days.

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00:20:26,600 –> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: So I’m still doing case state at the time, and

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Speaker 1: Case State was in the Aloha Bowl. I am commuting

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Speaker 1: back and forth. I start from Kansas City to Honolulu

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00:20:36,080 –> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: back to LA because they were playing in the coliseum

429
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Speaker 1: then they had not relocated back to Oakland before relocating

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Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. The division is on the line. Are

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00:20:46,080 –> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs are on the line? Division’s gone. She’s aren’t

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00:20:48,119 –> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: going to win the division. But Joe Montana’s quarterbacking. And

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00:20:51,760 –> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: what was bizarre about it had nothing to do with football.

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00:20:54,280 –> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: Mark Collins, who’s a very active ambassador. Yeah, I both

435
00:20:57,200 –> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 1: have seventy eight yard pick six in that game. It

436
00:21:00,160 –> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: was huge. But the bizarro part was I’ve got to

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00:21:02,880 –> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: get back to Honolulu because the Aloha Bulls like the

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Speaker 1: next day. This was on Christmas Eve, and I got

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Speaker 1: to get to Honolulu, which isn’t like really super close

440
00:21:11,600 –> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, right, it’s five hours. Yeah. So remember

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00:21:15,400 –> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: you know Joe Joel Myers. I think he’s a Missouri alum.

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00:21:18,000 –> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: Maybe Joel Myer is a great voice, right, you just

443
00:21:20,800 –> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: mountain time he goes. Let’s just be pre uber, right,

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00:21:24,400 –> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: I’ve got to get to lax from the coliseum. I

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00:21:27,160 –> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: gotta get as fast as I possibly can He goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: you’ll have a cab. You’re fine, You’re fine, You’re kind.

447
00:21:32,040 –> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: So the game’s over. I go, I gotta get to Lax.

448
00:21:34,359 –> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Got it? I walk out, No, no cabs, no nothing.

449
00:21:37,440 –> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: I got all my stuff. I’ve got to If I

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00:21:39,040 –> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: missed the plane to Honolulu, my life’s over. And so

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Speaker 1: I just start walking about a half block in a

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Speaker 1: old TV SAT truck. Right, we’re going back in the

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00:21:48,960 –> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: ancient of days here. Yeah, he goes, where are you going, dude?

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00:21:51,320 –> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 1: I said, I don’t know. I’ve got to find a ride.

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00:21:52,720 –> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: I got to find a cab. He goes, if you

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Speaker 1: go another half block, you may not see the morning.

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00:21:59,040 –> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: He goes, just jump been. So I think I don’t

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00:22:01,160 –> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: know this guy. We hop in. He’s driving down sidewalks

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00:22:03,920 –> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: because I got to get to Lax, and he finds

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00:22:06,800 –> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: a cab pulls up, like pulls in front of him.

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00:22:08,960 –> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: It’s like, you know, Channel five news. And so I’d

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00:22:12,400 –> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: give this guy all the money I have just get

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00:22:14,240 –> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: me to Lax. I could get. And that was a

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00:22:16,400 –> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: bizarro memory of me in a Raiders game that certainly

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00:22:19,840 –> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: qualifies as a bizarro Yeah yeah, but by it it

466
00:22:23,760 –> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: was little tense. I got on the plane. I remember

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00:22:25,800 –> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: just taking a deep breath and on my way to

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00:22:27,520 –> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 1: Honolulu to paradise. That is nuts. And he made it.

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00:22:30,480 –> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: I made it. Yeah, did the Aloha Bowl and spent

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00:22:32,840 –> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: a few days in Hawaii with my family, and then

471
00:22:34,640 –> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: had to go to the playoff game because then I

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00:22:36,320 –> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: went from Honolu to Miami because that’s where we played

473
00:22:38,840 –> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: the playoff game in that dreaded like first playoff game.

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00:22:41,240 –> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: You played the wildcard Saturday morning eleven am game that

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Speaker 1: nobody knows what happens. That was us. We were in

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00:22:46,440 –> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: and out. Joe Montana’s career is over. I got another

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00:22:49,600 –> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: one that was kind of a yes bizarro, my no

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Speaker 1: bizarro dealt. It was in two thousand and two, December

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00:22:56,200 –> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: twenty eighth at the Coliseum Raiders four Chiefs Nothing. Why

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00:23:01,880 –> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: was it bizarro? It was played in a monsoon, and

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00:23:04,720 –> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: if you remember this game or not, and the Colosseum

482
00:23:07,880 –> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: was below sea level. Remember all the seagulls would fly

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Speaker 1: around after the end of the game. They’re looking for

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00:23:12,240 –> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: like beer and stuff. So it was just a monsoon.

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00:23:16,000 –> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: If you talk to any guys that played in that game,

486
00:23:18,000 –> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: A lot of friends played in a game asked don’t

487
00:23:19,560 –> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: they haul about it? Two thousand and two. Actually, stuff

488
00:23:22,440 –> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: was coming up from the bottom of the field. The

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00:23:25,400 –> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: one end zone on the south end was completely covered

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00:23:27,520 –> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: in water like a like a pond. There’s ducks floating

491
00:23:30,560 –> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: around below sea level. Sewage was seeping out from the

492
00:23:35,920 –> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: bottom of the field. Eric Kicks defensive end for the

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00:23:39,119 –> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs lands and said, sewage comes up putting it and

494
00:23:42,560 –> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: he said a slang term for sewage. Yeah, and he’s like, hey, hey, hey, hey,

495
00:23:46,440 –> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: hey goes no like sewage. Unreal. It was unreal, and

496
00:23:51,720 –> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs got destroyed by Rich Cannon. Nobody ever threw

497
00:23:54,920 –> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: the ball. It was pouring rain the whole time, and

498
00:23:58,760 –> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: it was like water. Poles would have been the only

499
00:24:01,760 –> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: guy that could have played this game. That was Bizarro

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00:24:04,240 –> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: and not a very good day. He would have had

501
00:24:06,000 –> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: like four tackles for loss. Right, He was great, Yeah,

502
00:24:08,320 –> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: I can picked up the ball and threw it in

503
00:24:09,640 –> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: the net that wasn’t there and have that like the

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00:24:11,960 –> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: swim cap on yeah, with his number fifty six on it.

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00:24:15,040 –> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, yes, no Bizarro. When you have a great

506
00:24:18,400 –> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: rivalry like this that started nineteen sixty, you’re gonna get

507
00:24:21,880 –> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything in these games. One thing

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00:24:23,880 –> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I remember this doesn’t really fit in any category. I

509
00:24:26,480 –> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: guess it would be yes, because we won the game.

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00:24:28,720 –> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: I believe it was two thousand and five. I was

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00:24:31,119 –> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: at the Leak of the Ozarks with my dad and

512
00:24:33,400 –> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: we were watching Sunday Night Football as Chiefs Raiders at

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00:24:36,520 –> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: the coliseum. And this is a hazy memory. I’ve tried

514
00:24:39,359 –> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: looking it up. I can’t find any video of this.

515
00:24:42,040 –> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: But in pregame they showed on the broadcast the black

516
00:24:46,160 –> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: Hole and someone I don’t know who brought it in,

517
00:24:49,320 –> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: but the black Hole had like this fifteen yard long

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00:24:54,040 –> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: plush Chiefs player, like a giant pillow shaped like a

519
00:24:58,600 –> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs player, and everyone in the black Hole was holding

520
00:25:01,480 –> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: part of it and in unison like they were rowing

521
00:25:04,680 –> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: or something, slamming it up against the wall. And that

522
00:25:08,440 –> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: was like one of my first memories of the black Hole,

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00:25:10,359 –> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Like these people are out of their minds, and they

524
00:25:13,040 –> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: would show the guys with like the Darth Vader masks

525
00:25:15,320 –> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: on and spikes on their shoulders and everything, and that

526
00:25:18,760 –> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: was like one of my first introductions to the black Hole.

527
00:25:21,160 –> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: That was Randy Moss’s first game with the Raiders, and

528
00:25:23,880 –> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: he had a big touchdown and was like high stepping

529
00:25:25,960 –> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: to the end zone, and that just further intensified my feelings,

530
00:25:28,880 –> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: like I hate these guys, and do you know what’s

531
00:25:31,720 –> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: funny about it? I had those memories and that was

532
00:25:33,720 –> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: going to end up in the no category for me,

533
00:25:35,600 –> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: But then I looked it up. We actually won the game,

534
00:25:38,320 –> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: but I had all these negative memories about it, like

535
00:25:40,640 –> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: just a bad taste in my mouth about the Raiders.

536
00:25:42,440 –> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: But you were traumatized by the big pillow. I was.

537
00:25:44,840 –> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: I was traumatized by it. But yeah, those are my

538
00:25:47,680 –> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: early memories of the black Hole. And you know, it’s

539
00:25:51,320 –> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: strange saying this as a Chiefs fan talking to straight

540
00:25:54,880 –> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: football and football people. I do feel bad that the

541
00:25:57,760 –> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: black Hole do the longer exists. Allegiance Stadium is amazing,

542
00:26:01,359 –> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: I’ll be honest. It’s in a very nice venue for football,

543
00:26:04,440 –> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: but the black Hole can never be replicated. Those people

544
00:26:07,280 –> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: were out of their minds, but they love their Raiders,

545
00:26:09,760 –> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: and I’ll give them credit for that. I walked by

546
00:26:11,920 –> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: the black Hole many times for pregame and I thought,

547
00:26:14,880 –> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: anthropologists need to study this. Yeah, where’s my anthropologist friends go?

548
00:26:19,119 –> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Tell me about this group. I would walk by with

549
00:26:22,040 –> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: Lenny Dawson. Oh my gosh, that you want to activate

550
00:26:25,560 –> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: the black hole. Walk with Lenny Dawson. You know they’re

551
00:26:28,440 –> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: wanting to lacerate his kidney, like Ben Davidson tried to

552
00:26:31,800 –> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: do back in Municipal Stadium. But the best moment for

553
00:26:34,480 –> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: the black Hole was the Brandon Flowers interception. Oh yeah,

554
00:26:37,359 –> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: the pick six. Yes, he flexes on top of the

555
00:26:40,119 –> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: ball in front of the black hole. There’s a great

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00:26:42,680 –> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: photo if you can find it. Because we love in

557
00:26:45,240 –> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: the Chief’s Kingdom bird hunting. We loved a bird hunt right,

558
00:26:48,600 –> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: It’s just it’s best in the world here. There were

559
00:26:51,200 –> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: many birds in that picture, but none were from the

560
00:26:54,680 –> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: Audubon Society. Let’s just leave it at that way. It

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00:26:57,720 –> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: is a classic picture. This is a classic rival. When

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00:27:00,520 –> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: we get ready for another chapter, this Monday night is

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00:27:03,400 –> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will entertain the Raiders at g h A

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00:27:05,720 –> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: Field at Arrowhead Stadium. He’s our senior team reporter, Matt McMullen,

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00:27:09,680 –> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I’m a Choulti’s voice of the Chiefs. And yes, we’ve

566
00:27:11,840 –> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: lived through these rivalries. Yes, No and Bizarro touch down

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00:27:19,960 –> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: down and the celebration begins to Lhead

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