‘The Class of 2025’ – Breaking Down the Chiefs Draft w/ Josh Simmons | Defending The Kingdom

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Speaker 1: In the academic world, you’re identified of the class you

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Speaker 1: graduate with. Not in the National Football League, you are

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Speaker 1: labeled and identified as you begin with the class that

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Speaker 1: you begin with. And so today, on this addition of

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Speaker 1: defending the Kingdom, we introduce you to the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs class of twenty twenty five. And yes, we’re excited

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Speaker 1: about them. It’s all brought to you by Ticketmaster, your

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Speaker 1: friend all year long, whether it’s during the season or

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Speaker 1: during the non playing season. Let’s keep it on an

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Speaker 1: RPO at the five.

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Speaker 2: It’s a lead plot.

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Speaker 1: Take us into the hands on this side, tux down

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Speaker 1: Chanzas City. Hi everyone, I’m Mitchelda’s voice of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen. If

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Speaker 1: you’re not fired up at the beginning of this episode,

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Speaker 1: we will get you that way by the time we

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Speaker 1: are done, as we are going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty five. And by the way, the

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Speaker 1: Irish Brigade, the co commanders of the Irish Brigade are

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Speaker 1: both West Point graduates. Their son who was in the

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Speaker 1: class of twenty six. Next year he’ll be a first day,

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Speaker 1: they call him, so he’ll be in his senior year.

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Speaker 1: But West Point Annapolis Air Force Academy, they’ll identify you

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Speaker 1: by your class class of. You know, George Pickett was

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Speaker 1: the class of blah blah blah blah blah blah, MacArthur

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Speaker 1: Eisenhower class of nineteen twelve. I think, well, in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: they are, but the class of twenty twenty five. You

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Speaker 1: and I are fired up about this group. Once the

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Speaker 1: Draft was over and I just kind of looked back

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Speaker 1: at it going back to front, I got real excited

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Speaker 1: and I saw some parallels to the class of twenty two.

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Speaker 2: It’s funny because like on Draft night on Thursday, we’re

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Speaker 2: in this conference room Mitche and a few others, and

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Speaker 2: everyone else is. And then you get to Saturday, like

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Speaker 2: I were both here so late every single day, but

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Speaker 2: on Thursday and Friday, it’s still a normal work day

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Speaker 2: for accounting and finance and sponsorship and all the people

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Speaker 2: that don’t have a lot to do with the draft,

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Speaker 2: and then we’re there as well. But on Saturday, it’s

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Speaker 2: business level, except for like us and the production people

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Speaker 2: and social media and graphics and all that. Not a

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Speaker 2: lot of people. So anyway, you can kind of do

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Speaker 2: whatever you want and be a little bit weirder than

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Speaker 2: maybe you normally are in the office. And after we

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Speaker 2: got I think it was Jalen Royals, I was in

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Speaker 2: my office at that point working on something and I

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Speaker 2: hear you down the hallway just going yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: we’re fired up for this one. We’ll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I ran up and down the hallway on the Jalen

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Speaker 1: Royals pick like it was Yeah, I goes ten years

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Speaker 1: old and it was awesome. Before we jump into the class,

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Speaker 1: and we’ll start with the first round pick, josh Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Let’s go around the world.

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Speaker 2: What do you got so just two today because we

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Speaker 2: have a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: For Joshua Williams, Dustin Colquitt. Let’s see all the number

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Speaker 1: twos in chiefs history.

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Speaker 2: Well, Dustin had it for a long time, didn’t.

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Speaker 1: They wit a hogg it for fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: He deserves it though. Shout out to Keith and Junction City, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: You ever been to Junkson City, Oregon?

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Speaker 1: Not? Have you? When you did the Kaiser Volcanos.

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Speaker 2: No, I’m not really familiar with Junction City.

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Speaker 1: Junction City, Kansas now or PJ Gidden soon Now I

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Speaker 2: Yep, not him, No, not him, Junction City, Oregon. Never

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Speaker 2: been there before, but wall have to check it out.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to you, Keith. And then you know how

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Speaker 2: people have.

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Speaker 1: Like sea hockey that’s like real sea hockey country, Oh

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Speaker 1: for sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know how people have like

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, So I heard from Jenny the Cat.

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Speaker 2: So I got a message on Instagram and I thought

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Speaker 2: from being a Broncos fan. You know, I’ve done the

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Speaker 1: There’s only three animals I would follow on Instagram, okay.

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Speaker 2: That’s pretty impressive, bubs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes nuts on tuna. They don’t even have

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that Ellie created an Instagram account for Pip.

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Speaker 2: years that followed that.

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Speaker 1: It is in my corner of the closet too that

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Speaker 1: and tuna. We’re gonna go nuts on The twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five class of Kansas City Chiefs, and it’ll start with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs number one draft, Josh Simmons out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: and it’s we talked about him before a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We’re going to hear from Josh in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: He joined us in studio. But if he wasn’t injured,

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Speaker 1: this guy would have been probably the first left tackle

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Speaker 1: taken off the board. He started out the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three season with Ohio State, and before that a

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Speaker 1: right tackle at San Diego State. Went to Madison High

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Speaker 1: School in San Diego’s where he played. Transferred later to Helix,

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Speaker 1: but COVID knocked him out of playing for the Helix Highlanders,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith’s alma mater. But this is a very skilled,

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Speaker 1: large human being. You’re going to hear from him in

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Speaker 1: a second. But excitement to get Josh Simmons based on

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Speaker 1: what it could be. We don’t know exactly what we

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Speaker 1: but there is excitement in thinking that this guy could

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Speaker 1: be a long time Pro Bowl caliber left tackle.

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Speaker 2: So the draft of my it’s about three things. It’s

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Speaker 2: about adding really talented players to your team. Obviously, it’s

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Speaker 2: about making your team better in terms of position groups

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Speaker 2: that you might need some more depth at or maybe

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Speaker 2: a future starter at. And maybe first and foremost, it’s

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Speaker 2: about value. You can’t just take players at certain spots

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Speaker 2: because you love them. You have to also work the board.

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Speaker 2: When will these players be available and all of that.

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Speaker 2: This is incredible value getting Josh Simmons at thirty two. Overall,

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Speaker 2: you look just about anywhere you look at Dame Brugler’s

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Speaker 2: Draft Guide, Matt Miller’s Draft Guide, Pro Football Focuses Draft Guide,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah for NFL dot Com. Everyone agrees that this

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Speaker 2: guy would have been a top fifteen pick, maybe the

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Speaker 2: top tackle off the board. And the only reason he

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Speaker 2: fell to the Chiefs at the bottom of the first

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Speaker 2: round is that knee injury. And I understand, like there’s

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Speaker 2: no guarantees of stuff like that, but you trust your doctors,

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Speaker 2: you trust your athletic training staff, and the Chiefs have

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Speaker 2: the best in the business here in Kansas City, led

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Speaker 2: by Rick Burkholder. And if they say we believe it

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Speaker 2: this guy, we think he’ll be good to go, you

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Speaker 2: trust it, You go with it and you get incredible

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Speaker 2: value at that spot. You get a player that allowed

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Speaker 2: one sack on his last six hundred pass blocking snaps

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Speaker 2: at Ohio State playing in the Big Ten. This isn’t

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Speaker 2: like a projection where he was at a small school

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Speaker 2: facing you know, maybe smaller competition. He was facing the

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Speaker 2: best of the best every single week and he was

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Speaker 2: the best out there, best player at his position before

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Speaker 2: getting hurt. Last season, he allowed one quarterback hurry, no hits,

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Speaker 2: no sacks. Quarterback was not touched when he was out

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Speaker 2: there on one hundred and fifty eight pass blocking snaps. Again,

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Speaker 2: you get a player like this at thirty two overall,

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Speaker 2: it doesn’t happen. I mean, we talked before the draft

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Speaker 2: saying how it’s very difficult to find like your blue

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Speaker 2: chip left tackle prospect because those guys go in the

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Speaker 2: top ten and the Chiefs are not picking in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. The Chiefs have had no down years under

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Speaker 2: coach Reid. This is an incredible situation where this guy

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Speaker 2: would have gone a lot higher. He fell to you

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Speaker 2: because of a certain situation that was out of his control.

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Speaker 2: He’s attacked his rehab in the time since he apparently

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Speaker 2: nailed the whole interview process, all that stuff, and you

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Speaker 2: get this guy at thirty two. I mean hopefully, and

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Speaker 2: I have a great feeling that we’re going to look

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Speaker 2: back on this like five years from now and say,

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Speaker 2: how did the Chiefs get Josh Simmons at thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Overall incredibly athletic, terrific feat in the Chiefs offense. They

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Speaker 1: asked their linemen to move a lot their tackles, think

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Speaker 1: of screens, and Simmons is excellent at it. Either zone blocking,

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Speaker 1: now maybe not the man blocking in the run. There’s

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Speaker 1: what the knaka is on him, is the so called anchor.

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Speaker 1: But he’s also comes from a very athletic family. His

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Speaker 1: dad played for the Baltimore Orioles and the Detroit Tigers.

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Speaker 1: You look further, his uncle was Chris Muafala. Sorry I

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five class, A big defending the Kingdom. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Josh Simmons, our number one first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Chiefs Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: When you got chosen, when you got the call, what

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Speaker 4: Like a little bit of everything more surreal, Like I

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Speaker 2: This is funny for us because we’ve been doing podcasts

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Speaker 2: and we’ve talked about you so many times and now

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Speaker 2: What were the emotions like when you realize, like I’m

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, so a lot of high expectations, so you

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Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes is like the pinnacle of you know, throwing

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Speaker 1: And that being said, Josh, how much did the Ohio

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Speaker 1: how much did that help you mentally and emotionally get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess you’re familiar.

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Speaker 4: So college the NFL is like, I can’t compare that,

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Speaker 3: So I know that’s this is a team that’s always improving.

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Speaker 4: Pat’s always improving, Traps Trace Smith’s always improving, greed Hump

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Speaker 3: So just got to look up to those dudes and

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Speaker 2: So you had an incredible first year at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Scribbled this down. You allowed one sack on almost five

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Speaker 4: I think it was just kind of some of the

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Speaker 1: Obviously, one of your strengths is your ability to move,

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Speaker 4: Uh, so you kind of get I guess you learn

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Speaker 2: So Brett Beach was explaining a little bit about all

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Speaker 2: Zoom calls, I understand it, a lot of interviews and

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Speaker 3: I’m at home. It’s a little stuff. It wasn’t that long.

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Speaker 1: Culture is a big deal. It’s been a huge deal

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Speaker 4: So for me, I just learn I’m definitely picking brains.

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Speaker 4: I don’t know exactly what takes back.

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Speaker 3: All I can do is soaking information and soaking.

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Speaker 4: Kind of kind of turn into like a little ten

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Speaker 4: Obviously don’t want to get anybody’s way, but definitely working

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Speaker 2: See, you’ve only been here for like forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: But what are you excited to do in Kansas City?

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Speaker 2: What are you excited to learn about the City’s a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of barbecue. I think it was Q thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: It’s one of them, Yeah, because a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, it’s awesome to have you here. You seem to

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Speaker 1: staying red, right, So you’re a wardrobe. But what do

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, like like you said, that tradition in that

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Speaker 3: Culture is oozing out of them.

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Speaker 4: So just kind of asking again, like asking them, don’t

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Speaker 1: Now Chiefs Kingdom get excited because Josh Simmons is adding

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Speaker 1: He’s an engaging human. Did you notice that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, for sure, And he’s excited to be here,

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Speaker 2: it’s funny because we keep talking about this like a positive.

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Speaker 2: all that, and there’s money lost there. But for him,

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Speaker 2: For him, he sees value in it as well. I

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Speaker 2: Just a big kind of change, I think from even

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Speaker 1: The medicals the big issue that’s not a secret, but

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Speaker 1: be collaboration. Your dad is a prominent attorney in prograduate

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Speaker 1: But if you and I were arguing the case for

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there was a lot of think I’ll.

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Speaker 2: think he’s going to have a chance to play. So

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00:18:30,080 –> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 2: I’m fired up to get to camp and to see

421
00:18:31,560 –> 00:18:33,600
Speaker 2: what he can do. You kind of glazed over something

422
00:18:33,680 –> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: just now though you got into law school.

423
00:18:36,000 –> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn’t know that.

424
00:18:36,800 –> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 2: I didn’t know that.

425
00:18:37,440 –> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, three different law schools, So why didn’t you do it?

426
00:18:40,840 –> 00:18:42,159
Speaker 1: Because I want to be sitting here with you?

427
00:18:42,280 –> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in law school.

428
00:18:43,359 –> 00:18:45,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn’t be to be with your dad on uh

429
00:18:45,400 –> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 1: huh South American case.

430
00:18:47,240 –> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 2: I’m glad that it didn’t work out.

431
00:18:48,640 –> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lock Clark for two years too interesting.

432
00:18:52,200 –> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 2: New one DTKY every week.

433
00:18:53,880 –> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that’s cool, so decided not to go. Don’t look

434
00:18:57,160 –> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 1: at my lsat score. It’s okay to get in. But yeah,

435
00:19:00,119 –> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 1: wasn’t going to be in a lat review. I don’t

436
00:19:01,320 –> 00:19:01,879
Speaker 1: think anyway.

437
00:19:02,040 –> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 2: You would have been amazing at that, like closing statements

438
00:19:04,200 –> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 2: and stuff. You would have been incredible. I’m glad you

439
00:19:06,800 –> 00:19:08,199
Speaker 2: picked this line of work, but you would have been

440
00:19:08,240 –> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 2: really good at that.

441
00:19:09,000 –> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never get that far anymore though, you always settle.

442
00:19:11,680 –> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, we move on to our second case, which

443
00:19:14,840 –> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 1: is the people of public opinion versus Omar Norman Lot,

444
00:19:19,000 –> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman inside lineman from the University of Tennessee.

445
00:19:23,000 –> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: Started actually at Arizona State University, played for HERM. Edwards,

446
00:19:27,000 –> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 1: the former chiefs head coach at ASU for the Sun Devils,

447
00:19:31,680 –> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 1: and played a lot actually at ASU, and then when

448
00:19:34,880 –> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 1: ASU went through their issues, he transferred onto Tennessee. Interesting

449
00:19:39,400 –> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: here because people, and I’ll just be right there too,

450
00:19:42,880 –> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 1: looking for where this pick was of looking for a

451
00:19:45,720 –> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 1: day one starter on the interior defensive line. Now you

452
00:19:49,440 –> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 1: hope that maybe Jerry Tillery becomes that guy. Or the

453
00:19:52,000 –> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: rotation big here rotation because Norman Lot becomes a replacement

454
00:19:57,560 –> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 1: for Turk Wharton. And if you watch us, they talk

455
00:20:00,480 –> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: about his hands and his hands being so good, and

456
00:20:02,840 –> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: his one gap penetration is snap quickness. He was a boxer.

457
00:20:07,040 –> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: Omar Norman Lot was a boxer, and you can see

458
00:20:10,080 –> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: it in the way he uses his hands and how

459
00:20:12,440 –> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: quick he is. Sometimes you get a little too quick

460
00:20:15,440 –> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 1: because he’ll get some penalties maybe, but jumping, the jumping

461
00:20:18,720 –> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: the snap count. But this is a one gap penetrator

462
00:20:21,960 –> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: and a pass rusher is an interior defensive line.

463
00:20:25,440 –> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 2: And you mentioned his hands. I think he had the

464
00:20:27,160 –> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: largest hands of any defensive tackle at the combine, which

465
00:20:30,760 –> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: those things matter in the end. You know, I don’t

466
00:20:33,720 –> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: love saying rookies are replacements for players that get twenty

467
00:20:38,119 –> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: million dollars a year from another team, but that’s kind

468
00:20:40,680 –> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: of what we’re saying here with Turk Wharton. What I’d

469
00:20:43,200 –> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: amended to a little bit is that I think Norman

470
00:20:47,320 –> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: Lot is further along as a player than Turk was

471
00:20:50,880 –> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: when he came in here as a rookie. And we

472
00:20:52,560 –> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 2: were really impressed with Turk when he first came in.

473
00:20:54,960 –> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: But Norman Lot did some really great things at Tennessee

474
00:20:57,760 –> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 2: last year and throughout his career. Last year he led

475
00:21:01,440 –> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: all interior defenders in pass rush win rate and win percentage.

476
00:21:05,720 –> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: He trailed only James Pierce, who got drafted in the

477
00:21:08,040 –> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: first round, by the way, in terms of pressures on Tennessee,

478
00:21:11,119 –> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 2: despite ranking twentieth on the team in defensive snaps. So

479
00:21:15,080 –> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 2: you might wonder, well, why wasn’t he playing more? They

480
00:21:17,480 –> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: had a heavy rotation at Tennessee with their defensive tackles,

481
00:21:20,880 –> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: and if you think about like Nil, now you get

482
00:21:23,640 –> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: all these prospects that come in. You have to let

483
00:21:26,320 –> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: all your players play, So it makes sense that he

484
00:21:29,840 –> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: wasn’t playing a ton. What matters is that when he

485
00:21:32,359 –> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: was on the field, he was incredibly productive, like more

486
00:21:35,480 –> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: productive than any defensive tackle in the nation. So you

487
00:21:39,160 –> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: just look at the tape, you evaluate what you see

488
00:21:41,400 –> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: when the player is on the field, and he’s going

489
00:21:43,400 –> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: to have a chance to come in here and kind

490
00:21:44,960 –> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: of fill that void left by Turk where you’re that

491
00:21:47,040 –> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: three tech pass rushing defensive tackle on passing downs. And

492
00:21:50,880 –> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: he is shown during his college career and especially last

493
00:21:54,000 –> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: season he can do that really really well. And he’s

494
00:21:57,040 –> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: bigger than Turk. So Turk Wharton was a really good

495
00:21:59,720 –> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: player for this team. I think kind of underappreciated throughout

496
00:22:02,720 –> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: his career. But to go out and get a player

497
00:22:05,000 –> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: like this when I think this might have been like

498
00:22:06,800 –> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: our biggest need. Honestly, if you’re going through the list

499
00:22:09,800 –> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: of needs for the Chiefs, that defensive tackle you could

500
00:22:13,000 –> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 2: put next to Chris Jones on passing downs just to

501
00:22:15,200 –> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: have some depth there and a guy that has some

502
00:22:16,960 –> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: juice and some twitch. We got that player and Omar

503
00:22:19,960 –> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: Norman Lott and I look at a lot of different

504
00:22:22,440 –> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 2: big boards because everyone kind of has different opinions and

505
00:22:25,560 –> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: I try not to get too much into the group think,

506
00:22:27,320 –> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: which happens sometimes with these players. But Pro Football Focus

507
00:22:30,680 –> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: had him as the number four defensive tackle on their board,

508
00:22:33,440 –> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: behind only Mason Graham, Walter Nolan, and Kenneth Grant, and

509
00:22:36,880 –> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: we got that guy. So I love this pick and

510
00:22:39,440 –> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: I’m excited to see what he can do.

511
00:22:40,880 –> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: Negative would say, did that many snaps? You look at

512
00:22:43,320 –> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: his win past percentage win rate of his snaps, but

513
00:22:49,520 –> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: they’re saying, well, that’s not a lot of snaps. Well, again,

514
00:22:52,440 –> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: it goes back to your rotation. One of the reasons

515
00:22:54,320 –> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been elite on defense really since twenty two.

516
00:22:57,720 –> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: You look at twenty two, twenty three, and twenty four.

517
00:23:00,160 –> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: We talk about the scoring defense, let the rushing defense.

518
00:23:04,560 –> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: A big reason is this rotation that the Chiefs have

519
00:23:07,800 –> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And it’s nearly impossible to have Mike Danna,

520
00:23:11,760 –> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: George Carloftis Felix and yudikiu Is. I’m gonna go right

521
00:23:14,840 –> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: down the line. Now you get inside, you get Jerry Tillery,

522
00:23:17,119 –> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: Chris Jones leads the way, Mike Panell. You look at

523
00:23:20,320 –> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: a seven or eight man rotation. This is where Norman

524
00:23:22,880 –> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: Lott fits in, and it segues right into our next

525
00:23:25,800 –> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: guy because Jelotti is right there with the rest of them.

526
00:23:29,760 –> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: So to get asked in Jelotti another guy that has

527
00:23:33,920 –> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: been an outstanding pass rusher. His twenty twenty three was

528
00:23:37,200 –> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: crazy with eleven sacks, and the sacks fell off in

529
00:23:41,200 –> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: twenty four, but it wasn’t a effort. I think you

530
00:23:45,800 –> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: got more attention. His brother’s an MMA fighter and it

531
00:23:49,359 –> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: shows because this guy plays football like he’s doing mixed

532
00:23:52,600 –> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: martial arts and if you look at him, you’re going

533
00:23:56,640 –> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of George Carloftis. He works out

534
00:23:59,560 –> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: with George Carloftis. Yeah, these two guys know each other.

535
00:24:03,000 –> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: And so this defensive line rotation of all the dudes

536
00:24:06,040 –> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: that I mentioned didn’t throwing Norman lot You got another

537
00:24:09,040 –> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: one right after that with Gelatti.

538
00:24:11,000 –> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: So Gelatti and George share a common college coach. A

539
00:24:15,040 –> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: coach that was at Purdue with George then was at

540
00:24:17,920 –> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Louisville last year with Gelatti, and he linked them up

541
00:24:21,880 –> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: so well. Before any of this happened, George was reviewing

542
00:24:25,280 –> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: Gelatti’s film and telling them, Hey, this is how you

543
00:24:27,600 –> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 2: need to get better. This is what you got to do,

544
00:24:29,560 –> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: and being kind of like critical because that’s what everyone needs,

545
00:24:32,320 –> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: right and saying, hey, this wasn’t very good. You could

546
00:24:34,400 –> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: do that better, And Gelotti would would text George ask

547
00:24:38,240 –> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: him thoughts on things, Hey can you break this down?

548
00:24:40,560 –> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 2: What do you know? They’re now teammates. Everything I’ve gathered

549
00:24:43,440 –> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: about Gelotti is he is like a super super high

550
00:24:46,359 –> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: character guy and he’s a high motor like he’s going

551
00:24:49,280 –> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: to give it everything he has. And that sounds a

552
00:24:52,080 –> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: lot like someone else we know, George Carloftis, So it’s

553
00:24:54,640 –> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: kind of like like George is established. I don’t want

554
00:24:57,080 –> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: to say that, you know, Gelati is going to be George.

555
00:25:00,480 –> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: He has to go out there and earn it. But

556
00:25:02,119 –> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: we might have drafted another George Carloftis, and I think

557
00:25:04,640 –> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: we’d certainly take that. I love his size. He’s sixty

558
00:25:07,560 –> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: three two hundred and sixty four pounds, so he’s a

559
00:25:09,640 –> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: total Steve Spagnolo edge rusher kind of prospect where he

560
00:25:13,080 –> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: can play inside and outside just like George does from

561
00:25:15,440 –> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: time to time. He’s a Bruce Feldman freaks list guy,

562
00:25:18,800 –> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: like athletic freak. If you look back at his Feldman’s article.

563
00:25:22,840 –> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twenty two. We talked about

564
00:25:24,520 –> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: some of the crazy things that Gelotti did to get

565
00:25:26,640 –> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: on that list, and also you mentioned the great production

566
00:25:30,160 –> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: two years ago he did. He had fourteen and a

567
00:25:32,359 –> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: half tackles for loss eleven sacks in twenty twenty three.

568
00:25:35,760 –> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: Traditional numbers down a little bit last year, but the

569
00:25:38,520 –> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: pressures created were actually higher last year than the year prior.

570
00:25:42,240 –> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: He had sixty pressures created last year, fifty eight in

571
00:25:44,960 –> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, so everything was there, just didn’t necessarily

572
00:25:49,080 –> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: have like the sacks, but the pressures were still happening well.

573
00:25:52,400 –> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: And again people the criticism here his looks like a

574
00:25:55,000 –> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: sub guy. You did not get a starter with the

575
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: Chiefs since Spagnola. Here’s what we’re going to try to

576
00:26:00,400 –> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: tell you here, the fact that you have eight starters,

577
00:26:03,440 –> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: and that’s what’s crazy. I mean, you got Chris who

578
00:26:05,760 –> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: stands out right, he’s the elite inside defender now in

579
00:26:08,720 –> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: the National Football League. But the other guys around him

580
00:26:11,640 –> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: can play inside and outside and they do a lot

581
00:26:14,040 –> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: of different things. The other thing, but Jelatti would be

582
00:26:16,080 –> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: developing more moves and counter moves. He’ll have to do that.

583
00:26:20,480 –> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: The negative the red flag on him was, well, wait

584
00:26:22,720 –> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: until he faces the lead offensive tackles in the league.

585
00:26:24,920 –> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: That’s not gonna work. He’s gonna have to have some

586
00:26:26,480 –> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: other stuff. You can say that about every past rusher

587
00:26:29,640 –> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: in the college football. Sure, that’s what Felix is learning.

588
00:26:32,440 –> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: Felix has got some stuff, but now he’s learning move

589
00:26:36,680 –> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: four and move five. And that’s where George being big

590
00:26:38,960 –> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: brother for Gelatti helps.

591
00:26:40,359 –> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: I remember when George first came out and the whole

592
00:26:43,160 –> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: rap on him was he was just a power rushers,

593
00:26:45,440 –> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: the bull rusher, he couldn’t get around the edge. I

594
00:26:47,640 –> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: think George proved those doubts wrong. I mean, George is

595
00:26:50,280 –> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: one of the best young pass rushers in the NFL,

596
00:26:53,000 –> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: consistent eight to ten sack guy every single year. And

597
00:26:56,320 –> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: that’s what Gelatti could turn into. And he’ll have opportunities here.

598
00:26:59,200 –> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: And I’m with you looking at just the edge rushers.

599
00:27:01,760 –> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: So now you have Charles men who, you have Mike Dana,

600
00:27:04,440 –> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: you have George Carloftis, you have Felix and new Dicky Uzama,

601
00:27:07,400 –> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: who even though the volume stuff hasn’t been there for Felix,

602
00:27:09,680 –> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: like when he’s been on the field, Felix has made

603
00:27:11,359 –> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: some plays, and then you add Gelatti in the mix

604
00:27:13,840 –> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: now as well. You still have Malik Herring here, and

605
00:27:16,640 –> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: you have those interior rushers. It’s just really exciting. And

606
00:27:19,720 –> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: this has been kind of the impetus I think of

607
00:27:22,160 –> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: the offseason is just getting better in the trenches on

608
00:27:24,800 –> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: both sides. And with both Jelatti and Norman Lott, we did.

609
00:27:28,480 –> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: That long season. You don’t want to grind guys into

610
00:27:31,680 –> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: the ground. I know you’re trying to win fantasy football

611
00:27:33,720 –> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: with a guy you know on sacks. But for the

612
00:27:36,359 –> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs to run that long race with a

613
00:27:40,240 –> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: bunch of different guys who all can play up front

614
00:27:43,400 –> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest assets the Kansas City Chiefs

615
00:27:46,240 –> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: have have had and will have going into twenty twenty five.

616
00:27:50,119 –> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: Another asset that they will have, well, let’s put it

617
00:27:52,240 –> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: this way. Cam Ward was the one to one pick

618
00:27:55,240 –> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five draft for the Tennessee Titans.

619
00:27:59,000 –> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: There was a pick against him when they played cal

620
00:28:02,680 –> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Buy the Chiefs pick in Noah Williams and Noel You

621
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: talk about ball skills, guy, just listen to this. First

622
00:28:11,080 –> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: of all, he loves to tackle, So see if this

623
00:28:13,000 –> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: sounds like a corner that Spags would like. Two hundred

624
00:28:15,840 –> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: and three total tackles, one hundred and thirty four of

625
00:28:18,640 –> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: those are solos, fourteen career interceptions, seven last year, four

626
00:28:25,080 –> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: scoop and scores, and the pick six. Oh throw in

627
00:28:28,320 –> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: an eighty yard kickoff return for a touchdown. Now he’s

628
00:28:32,040 –> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: a bigger thicker. I don’t think it’s too far to

629
00:28:35,720 –> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: give the comp here to a potential replacement over time

630
00:28:38,720 –> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: to Austin Reed. Yeah, he looks safety ish with corner skills.

631
00:28:43,720 –> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: He could look he plays in the box. He obviously

632
00:28:45,800 –> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: wants to tackle, which is a rerequisite for playing for

633
00:28:49,200 –> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Steve Spagnolo and this defensive secondary group, but also has

634
00:28:54,440 –> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: the ball skills. So here again is a guy you

635
00:28:57,800 –> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: talk about valuing the draft, What double value it appears

636
00:29:01,480 –> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: to get.

637
00:29:01,880 –> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Noel Williams, You know what’s funny is I love late

638
00:29:05,280 –> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: night sporting events, like when Ellie is asleep and it’s

639
00:29:08,320 –> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: like eleven forty five and I can’t sleep and I

640
00:29:10,360 –> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: can win.

641
00:29:10,760 –> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: The Cornhall Championships.

642
00:29:12,440 –> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: So not so much like random stuff.

643
00:29:14,320 –> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: It’s like that they have the NASCAR suits on right

644
00:29:17,000 –> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: with all the sponsors.

645
00:29:17,960 –> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: I can’t quite get into that it’s more like the

646
00:29:19,840 –> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: sports that I love. But I’ll parachute in as like

647
00:29:22,320 –> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: a fan of a random team. Like last night, I

648
00:29:25,640 –> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: stayed up until like twelve forty five watching the Oilers

649
00:29:28,680 –> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: and King’s playoff game because it went to overtime. I

650
00:29:31,160 –> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: just decided I was going to root for the Oilers,

651
00:29:32,880 –> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: and I watched it and then went to bed afterward.

652
00:29:34,920 –> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: And who knows if I’ll ever watch the Oilers again,

653
00:29:37,360 –> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: but I’ll do that sometimes. And I remember watching that, uh, that.

654
00:29:41,640 –> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: Miami cal playoff overtime hockey.

655
00:29:44,080 –> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: It’s the best, it is the best, but any.

656
00:29:45,960 –> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: Second, any fraction of a second, decides it.

657
00:29:48,120 –> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: I stayed up till like two am watching that cow

658
00:29:51,480 –> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Miami game where Noel Williams picked off cam Ward. I

659
00:29:55,240 –> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: remember that. It’s the only time I watched Miami or

660
00:29:59,160 –> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: col all your I watched that game, and it’s just

661
00:30:02,720 –> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: funny that now Noel Williams is a chief.

662
00:30:05,080 –> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: A long time ACC rivals.

663
00:30:06,720 –> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: By the way, how crazy is it that’s an ACC

664
00:30:09,240 –> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: Conference game. It’s like a six hour flight. The game

665
00:30:12,480 –> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: ended at like I mean, it was like twelve forty

666
00:30:15,560 –> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: five Central time. It was super late and they had

667
00:30:17,760 –> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: to fly all the way back to Miami, just saying

668
00:30:20,560 –> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: but anyway, I mean, I’m super excited about Noel Williams

669
00:30:24,320 –> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: for a bunch of reasons. You laid them all out.

670
00:30:26,480 –> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: It’s the length. If you look at this corner class,

671
00:30:28,800 –> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: particularly kind of where they got Noel Williams, a lot

672
00:30:31,320 –> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: of good corners, but it’s a lot of nickels. It’s

673
00:30:33,840 –> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: and that’s important, but it’s players that are not going

674
00:30:36,000 –> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: to play on the outside very much or have that

675
00:30:37,960 –> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: safety versatility. It’s guys that are going to play in

676
00:30:40,160 –> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: the slot. Well, Noel Williams is what was numbers here.

677
00:30:45,720 –> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: He’s six foot tall, I think two hundred pounds with

678
00:30:48,680 –> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: ball skills, so seven interceptions led the FBS last year.

679
00:30:51,920 –> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: His fourteen career picks were the second most of any

680
00:30:54,480 –> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: player in this draft class. He mentioned the scoop and scores.

681
00:30:57,560 –> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: He’s durable, fifty career starts, all right, so he’s not

682
00:31:00,640 –> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: getting hurt very often. And the run defense really stands

683
00:31:03,640 –> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: out to me that you talked about, because so many

684
00:31:05,960 –> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: times corners, especially corners like with ball skills, that have

685
00:31:08,720 –> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: a lot of interceptions, that’s maybe all they care about.

686
00:31:11,320 –> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 2: They’re not super interested in defending the run. But wherever

687
00:31:14,000 –> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: you look, whether it be Matt Miller, PFF, Dane Bugler.

688
00:31:17,400 –> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Everyone talked about how he might have been the best

689
00:31:20,560 –> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: run defending corner in this class, Like he’s an outstanding

690
00:31:23,400 –> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: run defender. We asked him about that. On his post

691
00:31:26,360 –> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: draft press or, he talked about how much he enjoys

692
00:31:28,520 –> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: being a run defender, Like every single play, it’s not

693
00:31:31,280 –> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: about can I just get an interception here, or is

694
00:31:33,600 –> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: the ball coming my way? Can I set the edge here?

695
00:31:36,440 –> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Or as a running back coming my way? Can I

696
00:31:38,360 –> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: help my team in any way I can. That’s a

697
00:31:40,560 –> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: mindset thing that just a lot of corners don’t have

698
00:31:42,760 –> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: because they’re playing that outside, premium skill position, and that’s

699
00:31:45,880 –> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: a big deal. So Spags is going to love him.

700
00:31:49,080 –> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: We know that he also has a ton of special

701
00:31:51,120 –> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: teams experience as well, so I think he’ll fit in

702
00:31:53,280 –> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: right away on special teams. And he gives you flexibility

703
00:31:55,800 –> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: on the outside where if Trent McDuffie’s playing inside more.

704
00:31:58,840 –> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Now that Christian Fulton’s here in town, you Jillen Watson

705
00:32:01,680 –> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: as well, you can mix him in the rotation too.

706
00:32:04,600 –> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: That’s just a really good group of long corners who

707
00:32:07,240 –> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: make your defense better Overall.

708
00:32:08,720 –> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: The secondary for the Chiefs in twenty twenty five could

709
00:32:11,360 –> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: be measurably better. And Noel Williams is part of that.

710
00:32:16,000 –> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: The knock on him not great straight ahead speed four

711
00:32:18,920 –> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: or five, but setting the edge. We think about that

712
00:32:21,400 –> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: in the run game. Which great that you brought that up,

713
00:32:24,880 –> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: but the edge is also said in this era of football,

714
00:32:28,080 –> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: on bubble screens, tunnel screens, it cannot get outside. And

715
00:32:32,120 –> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: the chief corners have done. You go look at Jalen Watson,

716
00:32:34,760 –> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: you go down to obviously Trent McDuffie, but Joshua Williams,

717
00:32:37,920 –> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: even Chuarius Ward back in the day where you lock in,

718
00:32:41,440 –> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: you cannot let that play get outside. The Chiefs are

719
00:32:44,240 –> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: the best team in this league in defending those kind

720
00:32:46,200 –> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: of plays because their corners are physical, They’re willing to

721
00:32:49,800 –> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: make plays like that and they get to the outside.

722
00:32:53,040 –> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: It’s even the strip play in Germany of Tyreek Hill.

723
00:32:57,520 –> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: It’s a play, it’s a perimeter play, a quick, okay,

724
00:33:00,040 –> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: quick route, but you cannot let that plaguet outside. If

725
00:33:02,760 –> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: your corner is physical enough to hold the edge that

726
00:33:05,400 –> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: somebody can come in and rip the ball out and

727
00:33:08,960 –> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: then your safeties and backers come to fill that’s what

728
00:33:11,840 –> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: this kid can do, and he does it in his sleep.

729
00:33:13,960 –> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Now we go to Saturday. Now we go where everybody’s

730
00:33:16,080 –> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: gone right, accept the Scouts and bird and there and

731
00:33:20,640 –> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: social and the sixty five TPT Crew and Jalen Royal’s

732
00:33:25,400 –> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: of Utah State, the fighting Aggies from Logan, Utah becomes

733
00:33:29,800 –> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: a Kansas City chief. I whooped and ran down and started.

734
00:33:35,080 –> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I came in and saw you guys so fired up.

735
00:33:37,920 –> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: And this guy, to me is a Juju Smith Schuster lookalike.

736
00:33:42,400 –> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: Now let’s jump into what’s not so obvious about him.

737
00:33:45,080 –> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Why did he get to Utah State? He was a

738
00:33:46,960 –> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: zero star recruit.

739
00:33:48,080 –> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: You love this, I love this.

740
00:33:49,680 –> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: He goes to Georgia Military. He was a point guard.

741
00:33:53,000 –> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: So in the summer, guys that want to get to

742
00:33:55,000 –> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the NFL go to all these camps. Right, colleges have

743
00:33:58,280 –> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: their own combines. So issue company might be a regional,

744
00:34:01,720 –> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: but whatever, And these they go to camps to get

745
00:34:04,440 –> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: on the circle start to be looked at. He didn’t

746
00:34:06,640 –> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: do any of that. He’s playing AEU basketball as a

747
00:34:09,560 –> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: point guard. This guy could have been a Division one

748
00:34:13,000 –> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: or high Division two basketball player. Think about Pat Mahomes.

749
00:34:16,120 –> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: The reason he wasn’t was highly recruited. Was the fact

750
00:34:19,680 –> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: that not only was a baseball prospect, he could have

751
00:34:22,440 –> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: been a Division one basketball point guard. Okay, this kid

752
00:34:26,000 –> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: goes under the radar, goes to Georgia Military Institute Junior college. Right,

753
00:34:30,800 –> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: I said he was in formation, not single back formation,

754
00:34:34,280 –> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: literal formation with somebody yelling at him. All right, shows

755
00:34:37,560 –> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: up at Utah State and blows up so here. The

756
00:34:42,239 –> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: year he had in twenty three was crazy. The only

757
00:34:45,200 –> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: FBS wide receiver with seventy plus catches, fifteen touchdowns, seventy

758
00:34:49,680 –> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: five first downs. This dude picked up man and he

759
00:34:53,200 –> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: stayed loyal to Utah State. He stayed there two years,

760
00:34:58,120 –> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: and he was going to have another. He gets hurt

761
00:35:00,560 –> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: seven games into this last year at Utah State. I

762
00:35:04,280 –> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: cannot wait to meet this kid. I cannot wait to

763
00:35:06,560 –> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: talk to him. He’s got IQ, he’s got toughness, looks

764
00:35:09,680 –> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: like Juju Smith Schuster. But I’ve often said this, and

765
00:35:12,880 –> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: I’m fired up. You can tell I like my lineman

766
00:35:15,640 –> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: to be wrestlers. Yeah, create Humphrey. If you got a

767
00:35:18,800 –> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: stud athlete who was a stud high school wrestler, love it.

768
00:35:23,640 –> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Offensive and defensive line footwork, leverage, move, countermove, hand placement.

769
00:35:27,920 –> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: I love my wide receivers and quarterbacks to be point

770
00:35:30,440 –> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: guards in basketball, and that’s what this kid is. I’m

771
00:35:33,680 –> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: fired up about it.

772
00:35:34,560 –> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: No, I am too. It might be my favorite pick

773
00:35:36,360 –> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: of the draft. Again, crazy value here. Look at the

774
00:35:40,120 –> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: big boards, like Pro Football Focus had him as the

775
00:35:42,200 –> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: sixty overall player, Dan Bugler had him as the sixty

776
00:35:45,160 –> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: three overall player. We get him at one thirty three.

777
00:35:48,520 –> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: And he’s not just a flash in the pan guy

778
00:35:50,440 –> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: like that. Twenty twenty three season gets a lot of attention,

779
00:35:53,160 –> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: but I think he was off to an even better

780
00:35:54,719 –> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: start last year. He was fourth in the FBS and

781
00:35:57,640 –> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: receiving yards per game through seven games when he got injured.

782
00:36:01,120 –> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: They missed the final five with the foot injury. Maybe

783
00:36:03,840 –> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: the foot injury is why he fell. I don’t know,

784
00:36:05,840 –> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: but his production was crazy when he was on the field,

785
00:36:08,719 –> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: and the Juju comp is good because he’s kind of

786
00:36:10,880 –> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: like this like stocky physical receiver. But he’s not just

787
00:36:15,239 –> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: like possession guy that catches the ball and contorts his

788
00:36:18,600 –> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: body and that’s all you get. He’s like a big

789
00:36:20,920 –> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: play machine. I mean, he had ten catches of fifty

790
00:36:24,680 –> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: or more yards over the last two years, most of

791
00:36:27,200 –> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: any player in the FBS, nobody had more than this guy.

792
00:36:31,360 –> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: He has good speed. He runs a four to four

793
00:36:33,280 –> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: to two like that’s a good speed for his size.

794
00:36:35,480 –> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: But it’s his ability to make defenders miss, like in

795
00:36:38,200 –> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: space that makes him so special. And that’s what Juju

796
00:36:40,520 –> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: was so great at early in his career and it

797
00:36:42,239 –> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: still is. Seventeen forcemiss tackles last year. That was eighth

798
00:36:46,600 –> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: among all receivers in the FBS prior to getting injured,

799
00:36:49,800 –> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: and he averaged eight yards after the catch. Watch this

800
00:36:52,600 –> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: guy’s highlights, like it’s endless of him just making players

801
00:36:55,880 –> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: miss in the open field. He reminds me a lot

802
00:36:58,000 –> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: of Rashi as well, where he kind of turns in

803
00:37:00,120 –> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: are running back when he has the ball in his hands.

804
00:37:01,880 –> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: He’s stocky and physical but also elusive at the same time.

805
00:37:06,040 –> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I just think Coach Reid’s gonna love this guy. Like

806
00:37:08,080 –> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: stuff behind the line of scrimmage for sure, but also

807
00:37:11,080 –> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: quick slants ten yards down a field. He’ll make a

808
00:37:14,040 –> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: guy miss and break it off for a big play.

809
00:37:16,320 –> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: So you had a player like this to a group

810
00:37:18,520 –> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: that already includes Rashie Rice who will be healthy, Xavier’

811
00:37:22,239 –> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: worthy obviously had a great season last year, Hollywood Brown

812
00:37:25,440 –> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: going to be healthy and have a full season now

813
00:37:27,120 –> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs and Juju Smith Schuster. I mean, that’s

814
00:37:30,040 –> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: a really, really good group of receivers in compared to

815
00:37:33,320 –> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: what we had this time last year going into the draft.

816
00:37:36,880 –> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, this has just been a revelation. I think.

817
00:37:39,640 –> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: So we’re hoping to see more firepower and more explosiveness

818
00:37:43,560 –> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: from the offense this year. I think we’re gonna get

819
00:37:45,840 –> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: it because of the guys that we’re getting back from injury.

820
00:37:48,000 –> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: And then you throw this guy in the mix. Just

821
00:37:50,640 –> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: really fired up about it.

822
00:37:52,320 –> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: I’ve talked about the door hinge receiver. I learned that

823
00:37:54,520 –> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: in coach reads first year here and back in twenty thirteen,

824
00:37:57,600 –> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: how important they are. We’ll save that for a whole

825
00:37:59,520 –> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: other episode. But this guy could be your door hinge

826
00:38:03,280 –> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: receiver and become so vital to this football team. All right.

827
00:38:08,280 –> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Then it goes Saturday, just there’s a spectacular data. You’re

828
00:38:12,040 –> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: talking about value, immediate impact, and then Jeffrey Bass I

829
00:38:16,000 –> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: think it’s Bess or boss Abassa. But this guy, what

830
00:38:19,520 –> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: he did at Oregon reminds you. And by the way,

831
00:38:22,360 –> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: going back to Royals, his high school was Evan Ingram’s

832
00:38:25,360 –> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: High school. It was Bradley Chubbs High School.

833
00:38:27,920 –> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

834
00:38:28,360 –> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: So there’s dudes that come out of Jalen Royals High

835
00:38:31,880 –> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: School and you Royals fans went into were Royals eighty five?

836
00:38:34,800 –> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Stay tuned on that. We’ll see.

837
00:38:36,040 –> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: I can’t get him fifteen, but maybe eighty five and.

838
00:38:38,880 –> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Sixty nine the first year of Royals existence doesn’t work

839
00:38:41,680 –> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: because that’s ineligible, all right, but eighty five would be

840
00:38:44,280 –> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of fun.

841
00:38:44,719 –> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: It would be you know. I asked him on his

842
00:38:46,480 –> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: post draft zoom call. I was like, are you a

843
00:38:48,719 –> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: baseball fan at all? And he’s like, you know, I’m

844
00:38:50,760 –> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: trying to get more into baseball. And I’m like, are

845
00:38:52,640 –> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: you aware of what the team’s name is in Kansas City?

846
00:38:55,239 –> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: And he is aware. So there’s like a marketing opportunity

847
00:38:57,960 –> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: there that I think you should take advantage of.

848
00:39:00,120 –> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Quick Before he throws out the first pitch at a

849
00:39:02,360 –> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Royal skame.

850
00:39:03,040 –> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: The Royals already tweeted about it, like immediately They’re like,

851
00:39:05,320 –> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: that’s a great pick. I mean, how funny is it?

852
00:39:07,239 –> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: I remember like studying all the receivers and seeing him,

853
00:39:10,520 –> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: and the thought crossed my mind, how funny would that

854
00:39:12,640 –> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: be if he ended up here, and of course it

855
00:39:15,040 –> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 2: just works out that way.

856
00:39:16,080 –> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: I’d be like the Royals taking a picture named Ralph Chiefs.

857
00:39:19,320 –> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, the chief bender of some of those you know.

858
00:39:22,000 –> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: So now, yeah, he’ll have to go get a Royals jersey,

859
00:39:25,960 –> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: Royals Royals and then of course his jersey’s going to

860
00:39:27,960 –> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: say Chief’s Royals. I just feel like, especially if it

861
00:39:30,640 –> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: was eighty five, a lot of people are going to

862
00:39:32,239 –> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: buy this jersey. And if he’s as good as that,

863
00:39:34,280 –> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: we think he’s going to be even more, we’ll buy.

864
00:39:36,360 –> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: It, love it and love the Oregon linebacker and Jeffrey

865
00:39:39,480 –> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: Bess if you look at him now, a couple of things.

866
00:39:43,719 –> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: You have to go be on the obvious with all

867
00:39:45,840 –> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: these guys. We got an MMA fighter, we got a boxer,

868
00:39:48,320 –> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: we’ve got a point guard. And this one is a

869
00:39:51,960 –> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: guy who started as a safety. Fact he came to

870
00:39:54,440 –> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: Oregon as a safety. To me, you’re looking at it,

871
00:39:57,480 –> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: there’s a little bit of Willigay junior in him, because

872
00:40:00,280 –> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: it looks like the open field kind of linebacker safety combo.

873
00:40:05,160 –> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: But then you look at what he did four years

874
00:40:07,120 –> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: of special teams at Oregon four years. So when he

875
00:40:09,920 –> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: became like mainline starting dude for the Ducks. He didn’t

876
00:40:13,080 –> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: come off special teams. He was awesome and his play

877
00:40:16,160 –> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: speed is off the charts. But what he did was

878
00:40:20,000 –> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl was ran the huddle for the

879
00:40:23,120 –> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: national team. So now you start to think green dot guy,

880
00:40:27,960 –> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: and he was essentially we know about Nick Bolton and

881
00:40:30,200 –> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: what he does is the green dot for the Kansas

882
00:40:31,800 –> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, the traffic cop air traffic controller. That’s what

883
00:40:36,160 –> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Jeffrey did for the Oregon Ducks. And so you bring

884
00:40:39,320 –> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: that into play with a guy that looks like he

885
00:40:41,160 –> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: can play will maybe some mic, special teams, open field,

886
00:40:45,280 –> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: hybrid safety, total spags guy, but this looks like a

887
00:40:49,360 –> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Dave Tobe guy from day one.

888
00:40:50,960 –> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: I get like college val victorian vibes from this guy.

889
00:40:54,239 –> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: He’s really really smart and you can tell it’s when

890
00:40:57,640 –> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: he talked to him and all of the coaches if

891
00:40:59,800 –> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: he you look at draft guys, they just rave about him.

892
00:41:02,760 –> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is super intelligent and is capable

893
00:41:05,520 –> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: of handling a lot of information and data coming in

894
00:41:08,680 –> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: and that’s why him being the green dot at Oregon

895
00:41:11,239 –> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: is so useful because it’s really hard to do that,

896
00:41:14,400 –> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: like the green Dot is the quarterback of the defense.

897
00:41:16,680 –> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Like here in Kansas City, it’s Nick Bolton, and he’s

898
00:41:18,640 –> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: the one that’s relaying everything to everyone on the field

899
00:41:21,920 –> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: in like an instant. And that’s what Jeffrey Bassa did

900
00:41:25,520 –> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: at Oregon, a big time program, playing a lot of

901
00:41:28,320 –> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: big time games every single week, and he was the

902
00:41:31,280 –> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: guy in the middle of the defense calling the whole thing,

903
00:41:34,200 –> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: and that’s really difficult to do. His first game ever

904
00:41:37,480 –> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: at linebacker was against C. J. Stroud in Ohio State

905
00:41:41,280 –> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: when he was asked, because of injuries at the linebacker position,

906
00:41:44,719 –> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: can you move from safety to linebacker? And how cool

907
00:41:47,760 –> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: is it that he was like, no problem, Sure, I’ll

908
00:41:49,640 –> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: do it. He played safety his whole life, was recruited

909
00:41:52,719 –> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: as a safety, going to be a safety at Oregon,

910
00:41:54,719 –> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 2: got asked to move to linebacker, and he said, yeah,

911
00:41:56,960 –> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I’ll do it to help the team, and what do

912
00:41:59,080 –> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, he ended up being really good at it,

913
00:42:01,440 –> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: super consistent, had at least forty five tackles in all

914
00:42:03,960 –> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: four seasons at Oregon. You mentioned the special teams experience,

915
00:42:07,280 –> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: and how cool is it that your green Dot is

916
00:42:09,120 –> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: playing on special teams? How many major programs is there

917
00:42:13,280 –> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: green Dot playing on special teams and kick coverage and

918
00:42:15,760 –> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like he just kind of says the

919
00:42:17,400 –> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: kind of guy that he is, he wants to help

920
00:42:18,880 –> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: the team any way that he can. And to me,

921
00:42:21,120 –> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: he reminds me a lot of Drew Tranquil, because Tranquill

922
00:42:24,120 –> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: was a safety at Notre Dame moved a linebacker. Kind

923
00:42:26,760 –> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: of that hybrid coverage kind of guy. That’s what Basa is.

924
00:42:31,040 –> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: But Drew also can wear the green dot. I mean

925
00:42:33,280 –> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: when Nick was hurt a couple of years ago, Drew

926
00:42:35,320 –> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: was our green dot, and Bassa’s the same kind of player.

927
00:42:38,000 –> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: So if you’re looking for kind of a comp to me,

928
00:42:40,120 –> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: it’s Drew Tranquil And yeah, well they Gay is a

929
00:42:41,719 –> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: great one as well, where super athletic coverage guy can

930
00:42:44,880 –> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: get out there and cover. And I’m excited about this

931
00:42:47,760 –> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: because you can never have enough of these guys. He’s

932
00:42:49,480 –> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: going to help us on special teams and also just

933
00:42:51,520 –> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: makes that linebacker room even deeper with another player who,

934
00:42:55,440 –> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: god forbid, if you had a bunch of injuries, is

935
00:42:57,239 –> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: capable of going out there handling all the bullets flying

936
00:43:00,400 –> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: and the data and can call a defense. Not an

937
00:43:02,960 –> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: easy thing to do, and we might have gotten another

938
00:43:04,760 –> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: one here in Jeffrey Bassett.

939
00:43:06,040 –> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: We talk about the defensive line rotation. Think of the

940
00:43:08,280 –> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: linebacker room. Now, this guy walks in with Tranquill and

941
00:43:11,400 –> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: Leo Chanel and Nick Bolton and Jack Cockran go right

942
00:43:15,320 –> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: down the line. I mean this, it’s a really really

943
00:43:17,200 –> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: good linebacker room. And I think special teams could be

944
00:43:20,239 –> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: appreciably better next year, not only because of him, because

945
00:43:22,800 –> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: of others. And then the last pick. Going into the draft,

946
00:43:26,920 –> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: I was hoping to get it started. You know, third

947
00:43:30,719 –> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: down backs. Man, I’ve just an I can’t believe this

948
00:43:33,160 –> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: is real, what you’re about to say. And so I’m

949
00:43:36,960 –> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: thinking we haven’t got the third down back. Now we’re

950
00:43:39,800 –> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: nearing the end of the draft, right, and so but

951
00:43:44,480 –> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: we have a guy that works in graphic arts here

952
00:43:47,400 –> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: named Jordan Geesler. A year ago he came into We’re

953
00:43:51,719 –> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: nerding out and all this stuff. He goes, I’m gonna

954
00:43:53,760 –> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: tell you the guy that I like, and it’s Carson Steel.

955
00:43:56,680 –> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: I go, it looks like the Jungle law guy. Right,

956
00:43:58,360 –> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: he’s got the whole hair, he’s he’s sure he’s not

957
00:44:00,719 –> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: on Survivor or something. And we end up taking him.

958
00:44:03,640 –> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: He was like three hundred and fiftieth on PFF’s big board.

959
00:44:06,480 –> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: I’m like Jordan, I just don’t know, and this is

960
00:44:08,800 –> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: my guy.

961
00:44:09,320 –> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: This my guy ball I go ball State, Yeah, ball State, Uclabel.

962
00:44:12,600 –> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: This year it was Brishard Smith and SMU and this

963
00:44:16,160 –> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: is what about a week and a half before the

964
00:44:17,520 –> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: draft goes this is my guy.

965
00:44:18,960 –> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: This is my guy.

966
00:44:20,000 –> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: So we’ve looked at him, but it made me go

967
00:44:22,040 –> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: back and look, oh, okay, look more at this guy

968
00:44:25,000 –> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: who was a wide receiver at Miami and then transferred

969
00:44:29,480 –> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: to SMU. SMU then said we’re going to make you

970
00:44:32,719 –> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: a running back. In fact, their quote was We’re going

971
00:44:34,719 –> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: to make you the SMU version of Isaiah Pacheco Burshard Smith. Though, well,

972
00:44:40,440 –> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: let’s go back to what I said. I was wanting

973
00:44:42,880 –> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: a starting defensive like day one player. Well, okay, think

974
00:44:46,040 –> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: of the rotation here. We got that covered third down

975
00:44:49,160 –> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: back p Rhine leaves us goes to Cincinnati, who’s the

976
00:44:53,640 –> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: younger version of Jeric McKinnon. And I cannot wait to

977
00:44:59,440 –> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: watch Smith because when I’ve mentioned that to different people,

978
00:45:04,400 –> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: they’ve all nodded to the affirmative and the fact that

979
00:45:07,400 –> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: this guy, yes, he his crazy production crazy. In twenty

980
00:45:11,200 –> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty five. He ran the ball two hundred and thirty

981
00:45:14,120 –> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: five times thirteen hundred and thirty two yards six yards

982
00:45:17,560 –> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: of carry essentially. Then he threw in fourteen rushing touchdowns. Oh,

983
00:45:21,120 –> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: let’s add thirty nine receptions for three hundred and twenty

984
00:45:24,080 –> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: seven yards all purpose yards. He was fourth in FBS

985
00:45:28,760 –> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: all parpers Oh, let’s see Jantes first. Uh huh, Yeah, okay,

986
00:45:33,560 –> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: I know he’s heard he’s going to the Raiders.

987
00:45:35,600 –> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

988
00:45:36,080 –> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: Scatoo of Arizona State goes second. Yep. Third was Hampton

989
00:45:40,000 –> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: who goes to the Charger. He goes to the Chargers

990
00:45:41,960 –> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: the Divis Division. This kid was fourth. Yeah, Oh my gosh,

991
00:45:46,320 –> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: crazy production. And when you watch the video, this could

992
00:45:50,440 –> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: be Jeric McKinnon coming out of SMU.

993
00:45:54,239 –> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: So, I know, the Monday after the draft you look

994
00:45:57,239 –> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: at every single player and you say, this guy is amazing.

995
00:45:59,440 –> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: How this guy all of us all that. I can’t

996
00:46:02,040 –> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: believe that we got this guy in the seventh round.

997
00:46:04,120 –> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Just flip on his tape. It’s super just electric. I

998
00:46:08,239 –> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: mean with the ball in his hands when he has

999
00:46:09,840 –> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: an opportunity, he is electric. He is four to three

1000
00:46:12,640 –> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: to nine speed. Give the third fastest forty time of

1001
00:46:15,160 –> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: any running back at the combine. You mentioned the ridiculous production.

1002
00:46:19,239 –> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: I mean nearly two thousand yards between rushing, receiving, and

1003
00:46:22,320 –> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: kick return yards. Nineteen plays of twenty or more yards

1004
00:46:25,680 –> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: last year, I was in the top five among all

1005
00:46:28,400 –> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: running backs. And so on one end, he’s a former receiver,

1006
00:46:31,840 –> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: like you said, and you can tell, like when he

1007
00:46:33,600 –> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: goes up to attack the ball, he attacks it like

1008
00:46:36,000 –> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: a receiver. Sometimes with running backs it can be kind

1009
00:46:38,600 –> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: of awkward if they didn’t do a lot of that,

1010
00:46:40,600 –> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: like in high school or college. But with him, he

1011
00:46:43,200 –> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: runs routes and attacks the ball in the air like

1012
00:46:45,160 –> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: a receiver. But a lot of times if you have

1013
00:46:47,800 –> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: this conversion where you have a receiver go to running back,

1014
00:46:51,080 –> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: they’re kind of like a fish out of water. As

1015
00:46:52,680 –> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: a runner, he’s not like he has like contact balance.

1016
00:46:55,840 –> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: He’s bouncing off defenders. I mean he had eighteen total

1017
00:46:59,200 –> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: touchdowns last year.

1018
00:47:00,120 –> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: One cut ability. Yes, like he’s done it on us.

1019
00:47:02,080 –> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: You’ll make a guy miss. It’s incredible. But also like

1020
00:47:04,360 –> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: at least in college, between the tackles, he was getting

1021
00:47:06,680 –> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: tough yards, like moving the pile, like getting the ball

1022
00:47:09,440 –> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: on the two yard line and punching it in for

1023
00:47:11,400 –> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: a touchdown. There’s a lot of potential here with this guy.

1024
00:47:14,560 –> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: And that’s why he reminds me so much of Jeric,

1025
00:47:16,640 –> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: because Jeric was not the biggest player, but he played

1026
00:47:19,520 –> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 2: way bigger than he actually was. Jeric was a great

1027
00:47:22,600 –> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: pass blocker, like he would run through defenders twice his size,

1028
00:47:26,640 –> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: and I mean, that’s a really lofty comp like Bashard

1029
00:47:29,160 –> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: will have to work to be a Jerck McKinnon in

1030
00:47:31,080 –> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: this league. But it’s just impossible not to watch his

1031
00:47:33,880 –> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: tape and think that is Jack McKinnon and to add

1032
00:47:36,800 –> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: a player like this to our offense. We know how

1033
00:47:39,560 –> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: valuable and how effective Jeric was like in the screen

1034
00:47:42,440 –> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: game in the red zone. This guy’s perfect for that

1035
00:47:45,239 –> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So also the new kickoff rule, like

1036
00:47:48,480 –> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: how the kickoff is being moved at the thirty five

1037
00:47:50,440 –> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: Now there’s gonna be a lot more kickoffs, and he

1038
00:47:53,760 –> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: has a ton of experience handling kickoffs in college. If

1039
00:47:56,760 –> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: you put a four to three to nine guy back

1040
00:47:58,719 –> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 2: there who can make players, he has contact balance, he’s

1041
00:48:01,960 –> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: perfect to handle kickoff duties. So he’ll have to earn

1042
00:48:04,800 –> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: that role. But just I mean Burshard Smith getting him

1043
00:48:07,880 –> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: in the seventh round. I think you let out a

1044
00:48:09,840 –> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: yeah in the hallway after this one too.

1045
00:48:12,640 –> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: Saturday, it was just a hallway.

1046
00:48:14,360 –> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: I couldn’t believe we went around. I couldn’t believe because

1047
00:48:16,520 –> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: we had talked about it all week, like like this

1048
00:48:18,440 –> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 2: guy’s available, because everyone was talking about like the top

1049
00:48:21,440 –> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: five or six running backs, like the Caleb Johnson’s and

1050
00:48:24,560 –> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: the Scatabooze and all these players, and yeah, those guys

1051
00:48:27,600 –> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: would be great. But I kept thinking like that guy.

1052
00:48:30,239 –> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Jordan showed us Brashard Smith, like he would be a

1053
00:48:32,560 –> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: lot of fun and he would fit KOA. Treed’s offense.

1054
00:48:35,160 –> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: And we got to the seventh round. I guess I

1055
00:48:37,040 –> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: could kind of forgot, And when we took him, I

1056
00:48:40,440 –> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: was like, I cannot believe we got him. He’s a chief.

1057
00:48:43,320 –> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: Jordan’s two for two.

1058
00:48:44,520 –> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: And this kickoff return ability. He averaged twenty five yards

1059
00:48:48,360 –> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: on a per attempt and over his college career in

1060
00:48:50,760 –> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: kickoff returns, including a ninety eight yard touchdown on a

1061
00:48:54,520 –> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: kickoff return. And you mentioned the four to three nine speed.

1062
00:48:58,239 –> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: So you’re getting a lot with this guy. Super excited

1063
00:49:01,080 –> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: about him. It’s always key we talk about how versatile

1064
00:49:03,640 –> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: people are within the organization.

1065
00:49:05,320 –> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Right.

1066
00:49:06,120 –> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: So when you get a graphic artist and a graphic

1067
00:49:09,000 –> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: designer who can pick your players that this is my guy.

1068
00:49:12,920 –> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: You and I are going to go to him next

1069
00:49:14,120 –> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: year about two months before the draft and going now

1070
00:49:15,880 –> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: who you got?

1071
00:49:16,360 –> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: He has a reputation to uphold, so you have to.

1072
00:49:18,880 –> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: Do it way to go. Jordan, You’re a very talented dude,

1073
00:49:21,840 –> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: but man, you’ve now to pick two running backs in

1074
00:49:24,800 –> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: two straight years in this guy. But Brishard Smith completes it.

1075
00:49:29,080 –> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: So overall this class and we’re gonna watch him now.

1076
00:49:31,320 –> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: It starts right away this week. As you’ll see this

1077
00:49:34,680 –> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: posted this week becomes rookie mini caamp, a lot of

1078
00:49:37,640 –> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: try out guys, undrafted free agents. We’ll get into all

1079
00:49:40,320 –> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: that in episodes coming up ahead. But this class, the

1080
00:49:44,360 –> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: class of twenty five, really anxious to see him.

1081
00:49:46,800 –> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, we’re very excited about it, but the

1082
00:49:49,640 –> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: reality is the grade is incomplete. I mean, they have

1083
00:49:52,280 –> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: to go out there and play. We think all these

1084
00:49:54,360 –> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: players are going to help us, and we’re very excited

1085
00:49:56,800 –> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 2: about the value and the talent that we brought in here,

1086
00:49:59,000 –> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: but they have to go out there and we won’t

1087
00:50:01,200 –> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: know how good this class was for a couple of years.

1088
00:50:03,760 –> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: But one thing I do from time to time is

1089
00:50:05,719 –> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: I go back and look at our episode in twenty

1090
00:50:08,800 –> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: twenty two called the Base Ten, and it was basically

1091
00:50:12,520 –> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: what we’re doing right now, immediately after the twenty twenty

1092
00:50:15,680 –> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: two draft class. And we all know how transformative that

1093
00:50:19,080 –> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 2: class was. We don’t win back to back super Bowls,

1094
00:50:22,280 –> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: we don’t go to three super Bowls in a row

1095
00:50:24,200 –> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: without that draft class. And it’s fun to go back

1096
00:50:27,080 –> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: and listen to what we were saying about those players

1097
00:50:29,200 –> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: and the potential that they could achieve here in Kansas City,

1098
00:50:32,760 –> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: talking about, Hey, I think Trent McDuffie can be one

1099
00:50:34,719 –> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: of the best corners in football. Here’s why I think

1100
00:50:37,040 –> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: George Carloftis is going to help our defensive line. Here’s

1101
00:50:39,680 –> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: why I think Isaiah Pacheco could help this team. Jill

1102
00:50:42,080 –> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: and Watson can help this team. I love his length,

1103
00:50:44,200 –> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it turns out that all worked

1104
00:50:46,840 –> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: out perfectly for the Chiefs. And I’m as fired up

1105
00:50:50,200 –> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: about a draft class about this one. I’m as fired

1106
00:50:54,360 –> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: up about this class as I was about that one

1107
00:50:56,520 –> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two. And again they have to

1108
00:50:58,960 –> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: go out there and earn it and p it. But

1109
00:51:00,760 –> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: hopefully in a couple of years we’re looking back at

1110
00:51:02,600 –> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: this episode and saying, man, that class really changed everything

1111
00:51:06,239 –> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: we know about the.

1112
00:51:06,880 –> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: Base ten system, right, we all use it. The base

1113
00:51:09,400 –> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: ten draft class of twenty twenty two brought us two

1114
00:51:12,480 –> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. The biblical number for perfection is seven.

1115
00:51:17,360 –> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: There’s seven in this group. Maybe a couple of years

1116
00:51:19,840 –> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: from now we’ll look back and say this was a

1117
00:51:21,960 –> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: perfect pick. But just know this. Do you graduate from

1118
00:51:24,200 –> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: high school or college, or graduate from West Point, you’re

1119
00:51:27,040 –> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: identified as the class in which you ended. In the NFL,

1120
00:51:31,200 –> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: you’re identified as in the class of where you begin.

1121
00:51:35,160 –> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: And we like the beginning of this class of twenty

1122
00:51:38,040 –> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: twenty five